ill list 3 roy jones, zab juduh, lenox lewis

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/ragevirus/tito.bmp

i dont think lewis has a glass jaw , i think he got caught twice in 40 odd fights by decent punches. Nor jones for that matter age and loss of refelxes got him not his jaw..
Judah yes. Vlad K yes.
tommy hearns as he has been a recurrent theme today.

ill list 3 roy jones, zab juduh, lenox lewis

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/ragevirus/tito.bmp

None of them has a glass jaw in my opinion. Lewis´ and Jones´ actually is quite good. -- I don´t know what was wrong with Jones in last two fights, but he took harder punches without even blinking (Ruiz hit him, Tarver in the first fight, also Sosa, Tate and Hopkins who have been hard punchers at middleweight).

Lewis was hit with perfect punches by McCall and Rahman. Who would´ve survived the same punches :confused: ? He took bombs from Bruno, Mercer, Briggs, Holyfield, Vitali, and also Tyson and Tua landed some punches. So whats wrong with his chin?

How about Vernon Forrest? He's the only big fighter so far to go down to Mayorga's throws. Maybe he made Mayorga look better than he really was...Tito could sure take his shots and he had been out of the game for more than two years.

As for Lewis, he did take some good shots but you also can't say that he was the toughest fighter around. Compare him to a guy like Frazier and you'll see the difference.

How about Vernon Forrest? He's the only big fighter so far to go down to Mayorga's throws. Maybe he made Mayorga look better than he really was...Tito could sure take his shots and he had been out of the game for more than two years.

As for Lewis, he did take some good shots but you also can't say that he was the toughest fighter around. Compare him to a guy like Frazier and you'll see the difference.

True, but then again, Mayorga hasn't fought in the middleweight like Tito.

True, but then again, Mayorga hasn't fought in the middleweight like Tito.

Good point...most fighter can't knock down a thing if they go up too high in the divisions. Forrest just looked terrible against Mayorga, though. When a highly touted fighter gets beat so easy and unexpectedly often a weak chin is to blame.

I'd have to say Wlad. I don't know if RJ has always had a glass jaw, but latley it looks like he does.

i dont think lewis has a glass jaw , i think he got caught twice in 40 odd fights by decent punches. Nor jones for that matter age and loss of refelxes got him not his jaw..
Judah yes. Vlad K yes.
tommy hearns as he has been a recurrent theme today.


Wlad K got Kded only in 2 fights out of 45 fights.

Julian Jackson had very weak jaw in spite of the fact that itself beat as from a gun. Floyd Patterson in heavyweight had also at all an average chin and was sent on a floor more than 15 times. Joe Louis also had not a steel jaw and has sat on ass for the career repeatedly.

"Julian Jackson had very weak jaw in spite of the fact that itself beat as from a gun."


Say what ?

Wlad K got Kded only in 2 fights out of 45 fights.
Recollect his level of opposition: from all his opponents only two had knocking out impact - C. Sanders and McCline. First him has simply wiped a floor, and the second is so frightened, that be unable to conduct a fight adequately.

"Julian Jackson had very weak jaw in spite of the fact that itself beat as from a gun."


Say what ?

Excuse, if it was not clear expressed.
Julian had very weak jaw. But itself beat very strongly. Thats allright?

Got ya.

Another problem was that Julian was so offensive minded, he was there to be hit cleanly by his foes' biggest, best shots.

Absolutely right

i dont think lewis has a glass jaw , i think he got caught twice in 40 odd fights by decent punches. Nor jones for that matter age and loss of refelxes got him not his jaw..
Judah yes. Vlad K yes.
tommy hearns as he has been a recurrent theme today.

Well that's not surprising. Keep on telling yourself that Sanders is a soft a puncher.

Wlad K got Kded only in 2 fights out of 45 fights.

If you want to get technical about it, its really only been once by Sandersin 46 fights, Brewster and Purrity were stamina related and not chin related. And during the Brewster and Purrity, he never actually went down from a punch during the fight.

Recollect his level of opposition: from all his opponents only two had knocking out impact - C. Sanders and McCline. First him has simply wiped a floor, and the second is so frightened, that be unable to conduct a fight adequately.

Which is exactly why Sanders was the only one to floor him with a punch.

Wlad's chin is not the problem....his overall toughness/endurance is.

Wlad's chin is not the problem....his overall toughness/endurance is.

I'm going to word that nicely and say his ring smarts is the problem.

I'm going to word that nicely and say his ring smarts is the problem.

explain....please.

If Vlad to meet one more able to box even at a quite good level knockouter (for example, Tua) outside of any doubts again appears on the back. The guy absolutely became bad and falls even from impacts of such boxers, as Williamson (impact has fallen to that moment when Vlad was in a unstable position, but the fact is the fact).

explain....please.

The fact that when he got tired in the Purrity and Brewster fights or when Sanders caught him instead of remaining calm he tends to panick.

The fact that when he got tired in the Purrity and Brewster fights or when Sanders caught him instead of remaining calm he tends to panick.


Recipe for a doomed FIGHTING career.

He's not a natural fighter.
The KO losses will weigh heavier on his mind, making him even more vulnerable, weaker.

If Vlad to meet one more able to box even at a quite good level knockouter (for example, Tua) outside of any doubts again appears on the back. The guy absolutely became bad and falls even from impacts of such boxers, as Williamson (impact has fallen to that moment when Vlad was in a unstable position, but the fact is the fact).

What?!?!?!

What?!?!?!

I was thinking the same thing. Someone's first language isn't English, or someone needs to reword that so we might be able to understand it.

Recipe for a doomed FIGHTING career.

He's not a natural fighter.
The KO losses will weigh heavier on his mind, making him even more vulnerable, weaker.

Yeah I'm just hopeing Manny can turn him around. In the last fight against TOS, Wlad panicked after the KD, but while he was panicking he clinched with TOS over and over again until he had calmed down.

The fact that when he got tired in the Purrity and Brewster fights or when Sanders caught him instead of remaining calm he tends to panick.
After the first serious missed punch. I think, that Klitschko-jr. already never to get rid of this psychological problem.

I agree with everything Great says.

I Someone's first language isn't English


Has guessed:)
I shall try to tell in another way.

http://translation.paralink.com/
That may help, though I've noticed that it tends to skip translating words sometimes.

Tito's Chin < Wlad's Chin

If Vlad to meet once again the opponent who is able rigidly to beat and certainly to get:), ribs Klitschko-jr. (hence and he:)) again appear on canvas.
Thats ok?

Tito's Chin < Wlad's Chin


You're a total idiot.

For every one sensible post you make....you make five that sound like a guy who's never watched boxing.

Tito hasn't been KO'd as many times as Mike Tyson, has he ?

http://translation.paralink.com/
That may help, though I've noticed that it tends to skip translating words sometimes.
Thanks.:) I shall look.

thats just jacks style, you know his famous quote about tito

thats just jacks style, you know his famous quote about tito


Jack's "style" is that of a one-trick pony.

He makes "Neuraxis" look like a versatile boxing expert.

The kid's in love with Mike Tyson....the biggest *****ed-out frontrunner to ever (dis) grace the sport.

Tito's chin is shaky yet hardly glass, Julian Jackson had one of the worst chins I have ever seen. Augie Sanchez has a definite glass Jaw.

As for Lennox, people are right when they say that he got caught with great shots and not many others could have survived them. However Lewis's Jaw was shaky for many other reasons than just those two fights. Shannon Briggs hurt him badly as did Ray Mercer, Morrison stunned him as did Zelko Mavrovic. Holyfield in there first fight had him stunned in the third, Frank Bruno had him hurt on a couple of occasions. Even in the second Rahman fight rock lands a left hook in the third and stares at lewis not realizing that lennox is immediately stunned. Manny Steward was slappin lennox's face as at the end of one of the early rounds against Tua he was clipped by a left hook at the bell. VKLIT had him in serious trouble in the second and Lennox was being stunned throughout the fight. Point is that Lewis had shaky moments with his chin in almost every fight he ever was in. Its not a glass jaw but its not a very good one either.

You're a total idiot.

For every one sensible post you make....you make five that sound like a guy who's never watched boxing.

Tito hasn't been KO'd as many times as Mike Tyson, has he ?
But Titos ability to hold impact in the his own weight less same ability Tyson in his weight. For this purpose it is enough to look their fights and to consider knockdowns.

Hey Great, what's your native language? I can not even guess what it is given your sentence structure. Or are you just fooling around?

Trinidad's chin has gotten him knocked down....but has never been the reason he lost.

If an idiot like Jack holds how many times Tito was knocked down against him....he needs to check out his hero PERNELL WHITAKER, & his familiarity with the canvas..

Rafael Williams....Roger Mayweather.... one-armed Buddy McGirt...140-lb weakling Hurtado (floored Pea too many times to remember)...& Tito....all floored him.

Trinidad's chin has gotten him knocked down....but has never been the reason he lost.

If an idiot like Jack holds how many times Tito was knocked down against him....he needs to check out his hero PERNELL WHITAKER, & his familiarity with the canvas..

Rafael Williams....Roger Mayweather.... one-armed Buddy McGirt...140-lb weakling Hurtado (floored Pea too many times to remember)...& Tito....all floored him.

Hey...take Tito offa that list...Pea was shot when Tito got to him.

Hey Great, what's your native language? I can not even guess what it is given your sentence structure. Or are you just fooling around?
I not " just fooling around " (almost:)). And " sentence structure " give me PROMT - all claims to him.:)
I am sorry once again. Now I understand, that it was not necessary to shirk lessons of the English language at school.:)

Trinidad's chin has gotten him knocked down....but has never been the reason he lost.

If an idiot like Jack holds how many times Tito was knocked down against him....he needs to check out his hero PERNELL WHITAKER, & his familiarity with the canvas..

Rafael Williams....Roger Mayweather.... one-armed Buddy McGirt...140-lb weakling Hurtado (floored Pea too many times to remember)...& Tito....all floored him.
I don’t know who is Jack, but if you will see him send the regards.:)
The matter is that the quantity knockdows also speaks about ability of the fighter to hold impact. Name to me even one fight in which Tyson has been sent on a floor with one punch, here again recollect about Tito.:)

Back on topic.

Tommy Morrison had a glass jaw.

Michael Grant had a glass jaw.

David Reid had a glass jaw.

Zab Judah has a glass jaw.

Within the next year you'll see that, Floyd Mayweather has a glass jaw.

Back on topic.

Tommy Morrison had a glass jaw.

Michael Grant had a glass jaw.

David Reid had a glass jaw.

Zab Judah has a glass jaw.

Within the next year you'll see that, Floyd Mayweather has a glass jaw.
throw in Augie Sanchez and Andrew "six heads" Lewis too!

add fernando vargas too

None of them has a glass jaw in my opinion. Lewis´ and Jones´ actually is quite good. -- I don´t know what was wrong with Jones in last two fights, but he took harder punches without even blinking (Ruiz hit him, Tarver in the first fight, also Sosa, Tate and Hopkins who have been hard punchers at middleweight).

Lewis was hit with perfect punches by McCall and Rahman. Who would´ve survived the same punches :confused: ? He took bombs from Bruno, Mercer, Briggs, Holyfield, Vitali, and also Tyson and Tua landed some punches. So whats wrong with his chin?
Mercer and McCall would take the punch.