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marron
02-03-2008, 08:59 PM
Hello people,

I am new to this forum and watch quite a bit of boxing but only on the TV. I was wondering if any of you could give me advice on how to bulk up and become generally fitter.

I am 17 years old, 6ft 2in and 13 stone. I have asked for advice on other forums and they have just said that isn't too far off a healthy weight for my height and i shouldn't be looking to do too much. However, i disagree as i have a very poor cardio fitness level and i have hardly got any muscle definition ANYWHERE!

I have a gym (a regular gym, not a boxing one) near to me, which i am a member of, and has all the equipment you could wish for but i go there and am not sure what to do as i don't have any real structure to my workout. Therefore, i get a bit bored easily and find myself stood about quiter alot.

So i am now wanting to start afresh in the gym and wanted some advice on how i should construct my workout. Among the many parts of my body which isn't in the best shape, my abs have absolutely no definition muscle-wise (like everywhere else) and like i said previouslly my cardio fitness is poor to say the least.

Sorry if i have babbled on too much,

Thanks

dfwtx
02-04-2008, 12:20 AM
well get a general routine together so that you dont find yourself getting bored and wanting to leave before accomplishing a certain goal, if i were you and was looking for general fitness, i would devise a workout plan including but not limited to, running on the treadmill, situps, pushups, and weightlifting as you see fit. try to find your mental and physichal limit on each of these and construct a plan to fufill each time you visit.
hope i have helped and good luck

Ell
02-04-2008, 02:39 PM
Hey Marron welcome to boxingscene.com. If you tell me what you want to focus on as well as cardiovascular fitness then I'm sure I can draw up a plan for you.

msagrain
02-04-2008, 02:49 PM
Run ... run n more running.

marron
02-06-2008, 02:19 PM
Hey Marron welcome to boxingscene.com. If you tell me what you want to focus on as well as cardiovascular fitness then I'm sure I can draw up a plan for you.

Thanks, sent you a PM

potatoes
02-06-2008, 03:11 PM
Find yourself a good boxing gym and get yourself in shape. Don't worry about your weight, or how pretty you are. Boxing ain't a beauty contest. Depending on your background and potential, it could take many years to get in boxing shape. It takes a lot of training for a man to go 12 hard rounds. Best time to start is right now.

marron
02-06-2008, 03:25 PM
Are protein shakes proven to help?

And how often should you have one?

nedcmk1
02-06-2008, 03:49 PM
the best routine is the one you stick with :banana:

nedcmk1
02-06-2008, 03:50 PM
"Are protein shakes proven to help?

And how often should you have one?"


Clean up your diet before supplements

Rob Pilger
02-06-2008, 08:52 PM
It sounds like you don't plan on boxing but are looking to just get in general shape, if so...To bulk up you have to eat more of the right clean foods and hit up 2-4 weight training workouts a week. You could do two upper and lower body splits. Exercises like squats, dead lifts, lunges, chins, pull ups, rows, military presses, dips, db presses etc.. compund exercies work best to bulk up.

To get defined abs it's all diet and the right core exercises. Reverse crunches, db swiss ball crunches, wb chops, slege strikes etc. You can't spot reduce with burning out your core. Clean your diet up and limit the starchy, simple carbs to get ripped. No boxed or canned foods and margarine and trans fats.

Consume a good quality fish oil and drink half your body weight in ounces of water per day.

As far as reps go for the above exaercise it depends on your training age and background. For a newbie you will m ake great gains while learning the exercises using 13-15 reps and 1-3 sets per exercise with a minute rest. Or super set some of them( combine ) and rest for 2 min.

Jump rope, run sprints or shuttle runs and buy a sled and drag it push it pull it and run with it. You will get in shape fast.

I'm writing this cause it sounds like you don't have access to a boxing gym, if you do, just box to get fit. Good luck kid!

Rob Pilger
www.boxingperformance.com
www.theultimateboxingworkout.com

Unanimous
02-07-2008, 10:01 AM
I'm not a fan of running (never have been, but even more so since I broke my leg 2 years ago) but have been committing myself to an hour of excercises in my house 7 days a week since the turn of the year and have noticed a big improvement in my body shape (bigger muscles etc). But, fitness-wise I believe I still have a bit to go. Diet-wise I'm very strict and don't eat junk.

Sorry to hijack your thread Marron but thought I'd ask Rob a wee question. Will hitting the bag increase my fitness? I generally have 15 - 20mins hard work on the bag every night after 40 mins of sit-up, push-ups andd weights. At the end of my bag work I'm an exhausted, sweaty wreck! Surely it's doing some good?!

Ell
02-07-2008, 05:17 PM
I'm not a fan of running (never have been, but even more so since I broke my leg 2 years ago) but have been committing myself to an hour of excercises in my house 7 days a week since the turn of the year and have noticed a big improvement in my body shape (bigger muscles etc). But, fitness-wise I believe I still have a bit to go. Diet-wise I'm very strict and don't eat junk.

Sorry to hijack your thread Marron but thought I'd ask Rob a wee question. Will hitting the bag increase my fitness? I generally have 15 - 20mins hard work on the bag every night after 40 mins of sit-up, push-ups andd weights. At the end of my bag work I'm an exhausted, sweaty wreck! Surely it's doing some good?!

If you're exhausted at the end of your bag work then yes it'll be doing something. It should cause your muscles to adapt so you don't get as exhausted next time around and your muscles can do more work.

fraidycat
02-07-2008, 07:20 PM
It takes a lot of training for a man to go 12 hard rounds.

It takes a lot of training to go ONE hard round.

Rob Pilger
02-07-2008, 09:54 PM
Unanimous, When I'm not training fighters and athletes, I train general people using boxing training. Everything improves quick. Boxing is an anaerobic sport, people aren't used to training this way. Shorter periods but harder work ratio.

Just don't go balls to the wall everynight on the heavy bag, you'll burn out. Yeah, I like the saying go hard or go home, but you dare not overtrain cause you'll be **** and it takes time to recoiver from overtraining. I say you'll be fine with 3-4 rounds of heavy bag work a week. Two of those days do interval punching. for 30 secs. hit the bag as hard and as fast as you can, then for 30 secs. have your training partner do it. You will never really rest as you have to hold the bag foe the onslaught of piunches your training partner is dishing out. Do this for 3 min. 2-4 rounds.

Same thing with jumping rope.. Jump high knee fast for 30 secs. then regular pace for 30. duration 1 min. This WILL kick your ass. Add 10 pushups and 10 reverse crunches as an active rest between rounds to really jack up the intensity. Ps. I tried to post those ab exercises you wanted to see, it didn't work, I try something else.

Rob Pilger
www.boxingperformance.com
www.theultimateboxingworkout.com

Unanimous
02-08-2008, 05:44 AM
Just don't go balls to the wall everynight on the heavy bag, you'll burn out. Yeah, I like the saying go hard or go home, but you dare not overtrain cause you'll be **** and it takes time to recoiver from overtraining. I say you'll be fine with 3-4 rounds of heavy bag work a week. Two of those days do interval punching. for 30 secs. hit the bag as hard and as fast as you can, then for 30 secs. have your training partner do it. You will never really rest as you have to hold the bag foe the onslaught of piunches your training partner is dishing out. Do this for 3 min. 2-4 rounds.

Cheers for that Rob. With regards the bag, I'm on it everynight but only for approx 15 mins but I do tend to go at it hard till I can't do no more! Pity I haven't got a training partner though as all my excercising is done at home.

Same thing with jumping rope.. Jump high knee fast for 30 secs. then regular pace for 30. duration 1 min. This WILL kick your ass. Add 10 pushups and 10 reverse crunches as an active rest between rounds to really jack up the intensity.

Unfortunately I can't jump rope as my ceiling is not high enough, BUT I do ghost skipping, where I have an invisible rope. Don't know if it's doing any good but sure knackers me out! By the way, what's a 'reverse' crunch? At the moment I'm doing what I suppose are 'regular' crunches.

Ps. I tried to post those ab exercises you wanted to see, it didn't work, I try something else.


No probs Rob!

Cheers again.

marron
02-08-2008, 05:49 AM
Searched for a 'Reverse Crunch' on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tlXgKBTD_0

GTL
02-09-2008, 03:52 PM
ill be honest with you.. go to bodybuilding.com..

its a really good site in general for fitness.. read some artcles and weight loss.. and things like that.. its all about reading and educating urself.. theres alotta bs on the internet.. its a good site to educate urself on.. and if u click the excercise guide page theres some good excercises shown on the site..

marron
02-09-2008, 05:22 PM
Consume a good quality fish oil and drink half your body weight in ounces of water per day.


Can anyone help me workout how much water i should drink?

I am 13 stone and if i was to use the suggested advice how much should i drink a day? I have tried working it out, yet i keep getting what looks like silly numbers.

And thanks for the reply to my post everyone. I will take all your advice on board.

fraidycat
02-09-2008, 07:22 PM
Can anyone help me workout how much water i should drink?

I am 13 stone and if i was to use the suggested advice how much should i drink a day? I have tried working it out, yet i keep getting what looks like silly numbers.

And thanks for the reply to my post everyone. I will take all your advice on board.

90 oz.

That's 2.5 liters, give or take.

I'd say drink this much on days you're not working out. I weigh 12 stone and I'll drink 2 liters of water in a 90-minute workout. I drink a gallon of water on workout days. (3.78 liters)

marron
02-09-2008, 07:50 PM
Thanks for that, not the best at Maths ;)

mr tricky
02-10-2008, 12:18 PM
hey, do you live in middlesbrough, if so where abouts and what gym do you go to ect...

mr tricky
02-10-2008, 12:21 PM
if you live in middlesbrough then you sjud join the gym i go to im 15 and moving to the seniors on monday which is age 16 and up, theres loads of 16-35 year olds, and ud be welcome to join, tell us wht area u live in i know a few gyms

marron
02-10-2008, 02:11 PM
I live in Hemlington and go to Bannatynes at Coulby