Williams defeated an over-the-hill Tyson. He'll be in for a big surprise come fight night with Vitali.

why would anyone even care about this fight?

williams is on a roll. and hell roll right back to his london bridge..

williams is on a roll. and hell roll right back to his london bridge..

Yeah, but isn't the London Bridge now in Arizona. Which is good for him because it's close to where they are fighting.


I still can't believe this guy was given a chance for the WBC belt. It would have been better if he was in the "Battle for Supremmcy" card. Vitali will knock this guy out and back to London no later than nine.

i wouldnt be so sure, danny will give him a good go, he has got plenty of heart and is finally getting a shot at a major title, he wont be giving in easy for this one. I cant see why people are writing him off so early. I personally dont think that much of VK to be totally honest

i wouldnt be so sure, danny will give him a good go, he has got plenty of heart and is finally getting a shot at a major title, he wont be giving in easy for this one. I cant see why people are writing him off so early. I personally dont think that much of VK to be totally honest

yeah. we saw williams come in like a scared ***** against samil sam for the european title, and williams "no surprises" was pounded to his ass.

now, in the bigtime, theyll probably bring their own toilet for him to have in his corner.

talk about betweenrounds entertainment, if it goes that far?

big daddy is gonna slap this punk around, like hes never done nothing else..

Lets get this straight Williams is NOT the same fighter who mentally capitulated against Sinal Sam. Thats a fact.

Danny as Ive stated beofre wasnt living the life o a proper heavweight contender, this has changed since he has been consistently trained by Jim Mc.

Proper training camps and full attention will bring out the best focus and display from Williams. He will need it.

Vitali while the favourite has some flaws, he is hardly twinkle toes and if Danny can get inside and hurt vitali we may well see a shock as it goes into he latter rounds. Williams is a monster for his height (6.2 and 18+ stone) so Vitali will not want to mix it at close range with him.

If however Danny lets Vitali stand off and fire off that big one two then it will be a four round beatdown. However Vitali hasnt really been very well tested into the latter rounds, he cuts and may well have suspect stamina, This is where Danny has to take him, deep water and drown him there.

If he can do this, I can see an upset, Danny has amazing heart is a proven 12 roudn fighter and will be in the best shape of his life. Dont write him off, after all he did dispose of recent challenger Kali Meehan in 38 seconds. :eek:

yeah. thats what they tell them. just get on the inside and hang on to the later rounds (!!!) youll be allright.. sure, we'we seen what happends to em. williams is a joke, oh hes defeated what opponents?

you dont get inside a soviet style boxer like vitali. you have to be smart..

now williams will be tossed around like a little ragdoll *****.

thanks for that insightful analysis, you sure do know your stuff. :rolleyes:

yeah, hes big and coming on strong and in the shape of his life, and all this really means is he wont be able to bob and weave that good and hell be a target for the ukrainian powershots early..

na, youll see the gameplan is to have him run backwards for eight rounds and then try and get lucky..

ever seen the gladiatorfight in Life of Brian, have you? huh, huh?

what bull****, what 19 stone heavweight fighter comes in the ring with a plan like that?

Danny will look to dispirit Vitali early, give him some food for thought, get on the inside and rough him up, tire him out, hit him to the body, double up the jab when in range and let his hands go as he has excellent handspeed, not ****ing run.


like i said you sure know your stuff. Manybe you should stick to watching monty python.

what bull****, what 19 stone heavweight fighter comes in the ring with a plan like that?

Danny will look to dispirit Vitali early, give him some food for thought, get on the inside and rough him up, tire him out, hit him to the body, double up the jab when in range and let his hands go as he has excellent handspeed, not ****ing run.


like i said you sure know your stuff. Manybe you should stick to watching monty python.

yeah, and you should email danny, the two of you could smoke some pot together and dream about whats gonna happen..

dont set yourself up for disappointment, admit to reality..

Yip thats what all the tysonettes were saying before Danny got to him, Im not saying Danny will defo win, I just fancy him for the upset. Read my posts instead of turning them into what you think i am saying. Im giving you how I think the fight could go. Oh and by the way no need for me to email him.
Ive actually met Danny and Matt Skelton (Brit heavyweight champ), both are very nice people. Got time for fans and reporters alike mate, which is more than I have for you. I hope he wins couoldnt happen to a nicer more humble and pleasant bloke. Anything else you wanna have a pop at fool? Thanks for coming! :D

no, that just about sums it up. so how good is mattskelton?

technically decidely average. But he has the heart of a lion, is one hard mofo, you have to be to have been as good at K1 as he was. He is volume puncher who doesnt take a step back. Realistically European level would be an achievement, the top boys would run rings round him technically.


see if you are nice to me ill be nice back. ;)

...hey! :D

What do you mean 'soviet style'??? Vitali has a totally unique style which is derived from his kickboxing experience- watch tapes of any of the Soviet HWs in the Olympics back in the 70s and 80s none of them fought like Klitschko.

What do you mean 'soviet style'??? Vitali has a totally unique style which is derived from his kickboxing experience- watch tapes of any of the Soviet HWs in the Olympics back in the 70s and 80s none of them fought like Klitschko.

the jab from an extended arm and piruet-like sideways movements are soviet style trademarks..

so klitschko has evolved from here, still its his basic signature..

I know Williams is not the same fighter he once was. But so is Vitali. I'm not completely dissing the guy's ability, and that's why I said he would've been better off fighting in the Battle for Supremacy card. But for him to win against Vitali, he would have to be on the level as Lewis, which IMO he isn't. Can he get there? Maybe. But he's not there yet.

Him beating Tyson doesn't prove much, but it sure gave him a lot of confidence. Which contributed to his attribute. But then again, same thing for Vitali after fighting Lewis and Sanders.

I dont see williams winning this fight.

i dont see whats happening between the legs of the chick in your avatar.. whats going on down there?

we``ll call it draw, come back coward! Its just a flesh wound.

This seems like Vitali/Sanders all over again, I am not a fan of either boxer but I think Vitali will win this fight.

you wantto hope it is cos Danny will be in shape not like Sanders was(nt)!!this will be a good scrap mark my words. :cool:

I think he will come in shape, I just think the only reason he is getting a shot (like Sanders) is because he beat a name in HW divison.

undoutedly that is the case, I mjust not 100% convinced by Vitalit neither, if Sanders had been on 12 round fighting shape it might well have been different. But he wasnt and was puffing from the 4th on.

Dont get me wrong I rate vitali and make him odds on to beat williams but I have to follow my fellow brit dont i? Plus I think Danny is a great bloke and and the potter fight was one of my moments to remember since I started folowing boxing, so I gotta go for Wiliams and stand up for him.,
I do actually think though that it wont be a beatdown. I do think this fight is 60-40 in Vitali's favour, if it goes past 5-6 I can see Danny pulling off a shock.

With Hatton fighting round the corner from where I live that night (well half hour or so away) and this later on I can feel a gathering of like minded friends to cheer on the Brits that night! :cool: :) Ship it in win win! :)

I do not see many chances of victory Williams, but I believe, that Danny can win, if will transfer a duel in the last 3-5 roundes. There Vitaly (if high rate of a duel was given) feels like much less confidently.
If in percentage I think 75-25 for Vitaly.

Williams has got to improve on his defensive skills a bit. Even though I was impressed with his win over Tyson, he was getting caught quite a lot.

If he tightens that up, I think he has an excellent chance of winning.

The left arm extended is a euro stanse,Max Schmeling and Carpantier had similar stances . . . .

Exactly, so many ben talking about Vit stiff soviet style, its not soviet at all its german.

id lay both of you over my knee and slap both of your asses norwegian style.. :)

Vitali is much tougher than the Tyson that Williams beat. It would be a stretch though to think Williams has enough stuff to destroy VK.

personaly I think tyson would destroy Vitali

Tyson would kick Vitali's ass, no question.

Even a shot tyson is a bigger puncher than Vitali can ever hope to be, if iron mike ever fought V Klit he's got a real chance at beating him if he can make big K afraid, too scared to think straight... As for Danny williams, if tyson couldn't knock him out i don't see how Vitali is going to, i'm starting to think this fight will be won or lost by decision

Even a shot tyson is a bigger puncher than Vitali can ever hope to be, if iron mike ever fought V Klit he's got a real chance at beating him if he can make big K afraid, too scared to think straight... As for Danny williams, if tyson couldn't knock him out i don't see how Vitali is going to, i'm starting to think this fight will be won or lost by decision

So with that logic Sam hits harder than Tyson.

Sam Who???

He's on about Sinan Samil Sam. He knocked Williams out last year, was nothing spectacular, Williams just had an off night in my opinion. It happens to the best of them!

He KD'd Williams 3 times. I think that there is a clip in the boxing downloads section of this site as well.

what if Vitali can't knock Williams down at least 3 times?

what if Vitali can't knock Williams down at least 3 times?


Then Vitali is **** out of luck

Nothing. Vitili will win and win convincingly at that. Williams is the worst boxer that he has fought in 3 years.

Nothing. Vitili will win and win convincingly at that. Williams is the worst boxer that he has fought in 3 years.


people are giving williams WAY :eek: too much credit. He is average at best and will be properly disposed of in december.

No one gave Danny much chance when he was brought in for Tyson fodder. I love Tyson but i faced facts and picked Danny knowing a lot more about him that the American fight crowd, and that Tyson is Tyson in name only these days. Danny's record does not do his talent any justice... And after his last performance against Sprott you wouldn't call me a fan. But he has skills.

The Vitali fight is going to be a lot closer than people seem to think. I'd pick Vitali, but it's going to be competive. And if Danny makes it to the last few rounds he'd be in good stead to win it.

Vitali is much tougher than the Tyson that Williams beat. It would be a stretch though to think Williams has enough stuff to destroy VK.

You're kidding right? Tyson fought on with a torn out knee that happened in the beginning of the fight, the doctor who performed surgery on him said he can't believe he could walk on it much less fight on it!

As I recall, Klitschko pulled a muscle in his shoulder and quit during a fight, is that the toughness that you refer to?!

You're kidding right? Tyson fought on with a torn out knee that happened in the beginning of the fight, the doctor who performed surgery on him said he can't believe he could walk on it much less fight on it!

As I recall, Klitschko pulled a muscle in his shoulder and quit during a fight, is that the toughness that you refer to?!

Vitali fought with his damage many rounds, ive seen him take worse punishment than than, and tyson kind of freez when hit, vit dont, soo id say Vit is the tougher.

Besides Vit is 10 inch taller than tyson big different, i think williams will show a better more than most expect but ultimatly Vit will take him out.

Vitali fought with his damage many rounds, ive seen him take worse punishment than than, and tyson kind of freez when hit, vit dont, soo id say Vit is the tougher.

Besides Vit is 10 inch taller than tyson big different, i think williams will show a better more than most expect but ultimatly Vit will take him out.

WHAT?? :confused: A guy quits over a pulled shoulder muscle, and no it wasn't after that many rounds - and you say he is tougher than a guy who TEARS MUSCLES AND LIGAMENTS and still fights for 3 more rounds! I don't think so, and I have had 3 knee surgeries on my left knee, I know I couldn't walk...

Klitscko KO fifth.

I think it was a torn rotator not a pulled muscle but on other side what kind of fighter would let anybody hit him 30 times in a row :D ( says a lot about Williamses "great" power)

I think it was a torn rotator not a pulled muscle but on other side what kind of fighter would let anybody hit him 30 times in a row :D ( says a lot about Williamses "great" power)

watch the tape it wasnt that many, probably 3 or 4 clean and another 5 or 6 glancing, he may have thrown 20 odd unanswered.

Ask Kali meehen if wiliams has pwer..38 secs worth of power.
27 kos out of 32 wins worth of power.

Regardless of what people say on here, even if Vitali defeats Williams and soundly at that these same people will turn it around and say that Williams was a bum and he got lucky against Tyson because Tyson was injured. These are the same people who are now saying that Tyson's injury was not a factor in his loss. It's very hard for people to put their personal feelings aside and be fair in their assessments of a fighter.

if williams can get on the inside and attack the body then it could be an uset. I know the american fans don't know much about him but trust me, when he is mentally right he can beat any one of the current crop of champions. And by the way i never ever said that about Fank Bruno so i am not just being biased.

You're kidding right? Tyson fought on with a torn out knee that happened in the beginning of the fight, the doctor who performed surgery on him said he can't believe he could walk on it much less fight on it!

As I recall, Klitschko pulled a muscle in his shoulder and quit during a fight, is that the toughness that you refer to?!

It was a torn rotator cuff.

watch the tape it wasnt that many, probably 3 or 4 clean and another 5 or 6 glancing, he may have thrown 20 odd unanswered.

Ask Kali meehen if wiliams has pwer..38 secs worth of power.
27 kos out of 32 wins worth of power.

I just watched the clip again here. And Williams was landing shot after shot. Its just Williams throwing punch after punch for 20 seconds, though Tyson did get 1 shot in there.