Villa are a bigger Club than Tottenham

Spurs Honours

Tottenham League Champions:
1950-51, 1960-61

FA Cup Winners:
1901, 1921, 1961, 1962, 1967, 1981, 1982, 1991

Football League Cup Winners:
1971, 1973, 1999

European Cup Winners' Cup Winners:
1963

UEFA Cup Winners:
1972, 1984
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Aston Villa

Division 1 Champions: 1893/1894, 1895/1896, 1896/1897, 1898/1899, 1899/1900, 1909/1910, 1980/1981.

Division 2 Champions: 1937/1938, 1959/1960.

Division 3 Champions: 1971/1972


Domestic Cups:

FA Cup Winners: 1887, 1895, 1897, 1905, 1913, 1920, 1957.

League Cup Winners: 1961, 1975, 1977, 1994, 1996.


European Competitions:

European Cup Winners: 1982

European Super Cup Winners: 1983

we have a much better history in terms of winning things..... we are 1 of only 5 british clubs to win the european cup....

i'd say our fanbase is pretty similar but we have a better stadium, so yeah we are definitely a bigger club....

*awaits hurricane*

we have a much better history in terms of winning things..... we are 1 of only 5 british clubs to win the european cup....

i'd say our fanbase is pretty similar but we have a better stadium, so yeah we are definitely a bigger club....

*awaits hurricane*

look at the league titles you have won ,Tottenham have very vocal supporters who think there side is bigger than it actually is yet Villa fans are'nt as demanding of success the way Tottenham are yet they are a bigger club clearly

well look how long we put up with that old bastard ellis.... cant see many other clubs being so patient with that tight ****er

i like spurs and they are a good sized club with quite a bit of success in the past, but we are definitely bigger. at the moment though i think both of us look pretty strong for the future... good managers and good young squad

divad who do you follow mate? albion?

well look how long we put up with that old bastard ellis.... cant see many other clubs being so patient with that tight ****er

i like spurs and they are a good sized club with quite a bit of success in the past, but we are definitely bigger. at the moment though i think both of us look pretty strong for the future... good managers and good young squad

divad who do you follow mate? albion?

Reo-****er ,Young ,Barry ,Carew ,Laursen ,Carson etc they definelty have a bright future

as do Tottenham ,Tom Huddlestone will be a top top player IMO ,King is a quality CB as good as ,Terry ,Caragher , Lennon is another top talent Dawson ,Robbo can come good again aswell

DURAN_IS_GOD

BTW i think Routledge is really gonna flourish under O'Neil i think Spurs will regret letting him go ,Spurs should have stuck with him IMO he just never got enough games to settle properly at Spurs

Reo-****er ,Young ,Barry ,Carew ,Laursen ,Carson etc they definelty have a bright future

as do Tottenham ,Tom Huddlestone will be a top top player IMO ,King is a quality CB as good as ,Terry ,Caragher , Lennon is another top talent Dawson ,Robbo can come good again aswell
lol i notice you missed out jenas mate.... you aint a fan are ya??!! i think he's ok but not sure he's england material to be honest..... but anyone is better than fat frank

yeah huddlestone and king are class, and that jamie o'hara looks decent as well. i just want o'neill to start spending some money, our squad is far too small and any injuries/suspensions is prob gonna stuff our european hopes. what team u support divad?

DURAN_IS_GOD

BTW i think Routledge is really gonna flourish under O'Neil i think Spurs will regret letting him go ,Spurs should have stuck with him IMO he just never got enough games to settle properly at Spurs
yeah hopefully, plus at a million quid we aint broke the bank. i think he'll put him right wing and maybe put gabby in the hole behind carew. his pace from there could cause problems

routledge fits in well really cus he has pace, is young and should cause problems. bit gutted we missed out on defoe really

lol i notice you missed out jenas mate.... you aint a fan are ya??!! i think he's ok but not sure he's england material to be honest..... but anyone is better than fat frank

yeah huddlestone and king are class, and that jamie o'hara looks decent as well. i just want o'neill to start spending some money, our squad is far too small and any injuries/suspensions is prob gonna stuff our european hopes. what team u support divad?

yeah hopefully, plus at a million quid we aint broke the bank. i think he'll put him right wing and maybe put gabby in the hole behind carew. his pace from there could cause problems

routledge fits in well really cus he has pace, is young and should cause problems. bit gutted we missed out on defoe really

Im an Arsenal fan [Glory Hunter ]LOL i started supporting Arsenal back in 93 ,

i dont mind Fat Frank in the side cause he scores Goals but he cannot play in the side with Stevie G its one or the other IMO & Gerrard has more natrual ability & is an all round better player ,Fatty is still usefull from the bench

Reo ****er ,Huddlestone ,Noble are better players than Jenas thats not hating on Jenas i just feel they are better CM than Jenas ,all the flack Hargeaves caught why is he in the squad again etc ,yet nobody seemded to ask why Jenas kept getting in the squad he has done nothing for years to warrrant a squad place

i do feel sorry for the Villa fans i hope the have some success u lads deserve out after the way that cunt has run the club ,u are a big side who deserves success dont worry dude your club is now in safe hands with O'Neil if not this season the next season he will strengthen the squad

O'Neil knows

To the original post, I wouldn't base what you've won in the past making you a bigger club. From a lower league supporter's view, I'd say now they're pretty much the same size, I may even sway with Spurs to be honest. Spurs seem to have a random following, there's people all over the country that support Spurs for no particular reason. It might be the same with Villa, but it seems everyone I come in contact with as a northerner, is either a Man Utd, Man City, Liverpool or Spurs fan.

To the original post, I wouldn't base what you've won in the past making you a bigger club. From a lower league supporter's view, I'd say now they're pretty much the same size, I may even sway with Spurs to be honest. Spurs seem to have a random following, there's people all over the country that support Spurs for no particular reason. It might be the same with Villa, but it seems everyone I come in contact with as a northerner, is either a Man Utd, Man City, Liverpool or Spurs fan.


who is bigger then Newcastle or Nottingham Forrest

Newcastle have a massive following spend ****loads of Cash aswell but they are'nt a bigger side than Villa based on History & Success

big teams are determined by success ,i aint saying Tottenham aint a big club but Aston Villa are bigger yet people get the impression that Spurs & Newcastle are the Bigger clubs becaue of their demand for success & the Money they spend

nottingham forrest, shef wednesday and leeds are all bigger than newcastle imo

I've got into a discussion with Divad who is a gooner, now he's trying to wind me up.

Can't the young boy have a sensible discussion without getting the arse when someone disagrees with his point of view.

A lot of spurs fans are vocal and talk **** and think we have a divine right to be up there when no one does.

As far as Villa being a bigger club then it depends how you define it.
They have won more yes although a lot of sucess was in the 1800's but still they had a lot of success last century as well. And apart from the last 2 seasons have generally have finished higher than us in the league.

They have a bigger stadium and therefore bigger crowds so you could say they are a bigger club.

But Tottenham have been asking for permission to increase the capacity for years and always sell out even against little teams in europe unlike certain other teams I could mention.

We are constantly denied and have offered to pay for the unused tube station right outside white hart lane to be refurbished and reopened if only on matchdays and pay for the policing aswell.

I shall try and find a link to a survey done not too long ago as to who the biggest teams in the country are purely on fanbase.

1. Man Utd by far, biggest supported club in the world.
2. Liverpool
3. Tottenham Hotspur
4. Arsenal
5. Chelsea

Now we all know that football has attracted a lot of hangers on because it has become fashionable especially with women who suddenly support teams and claim to be great supporters. Now of these hangers on the majority are supporting the so called big 4.

Man Utd and Liverpool will always be no1 and no2 even with out these hangers on. Tottenham were slightly ahead of Arsenal and Chelsea and I suspect had the survey been done 15 years ago then they would have been even further ahead.

So on fanbase Tottenham are a bigger side than not only Villa but Arsenal and Chelsea as well.

But how do you define who is the biggest club, is it stadium size and crowds,fanbase or honours won and is this domestic or european honours.

In Europe Arsenal have won less than Tottenham.
In fact Tottenham were the FIRST british team to win a european trophy.

So divad despite your attempts to wind me up you have failed again. Please lets keep it sensible.

I've got into a discussion with Divad who is a gooner, now he's trying to wind me up.

Can't the young boy have a sensible discussion without getting the arse when someone disagrees with his point of view.

A lot of spurs fans are vocal and talk **** and think we have a divine right to be up there when no one does.

As far as Villa being a bigger club then it depends how you define it.
They have won more yes although a lot of sucess was in the 1800's but still they had a lot of success last century as well. And apart from the last 2 seasons have generally have finished higher than us in the league.

They have a bigger stadium and therefore bigger crowds so you could say they are a bigger club.

But Tottenham have been asking for permission to increase the capacity for years and always sell out even against little teams in europe unlike certain other teams I could mention.

We are constantly denied and have offered to pay for the unused tube station right outside white hart lane to be refurbished and reopened if only on matchdays and pay for the policing aswell.

I shall try and find a link to a survey done not too long ago as to who the biggest teams in the country are purely on fanbase.

1. Man Utd by far, biggest supported club in the world.
2. Liverpool
3. Tottenham Hotspur
4. Arsenal
5. Chelsea

Now we all know that football has attracted a lot of hangers on because it has become fashionable especially with women who suddenly support teams and claim to be great supporters. Now of these hangers on the majority are supporting the so called big 4.

Man Utd and Liverpool will always be no1 and no2 even with out these hangers on. Tottenham were slightly ahead of Arsenal and Chelsea and I suspect had the survey been done 15 years ago then they would have been even further ahead and behind.

So on fanbase Tottenham are a bigger side than not only Villa but Arsenal and Chelsea as well.

But how do you define who is the biggest club, is it stadium size and crowds,fanbase or honours won and is this domestic or european honours.

In Europe Arsenal have won less than Tottenham.
In fact Tottenham were the FIRST british team to win a european trophy.

So divad despite your attempts to wind me up you have failed again. Please lets keep it sensible.

having u right big posts like that only illustrates that u have been rattled by the truth :owned:

Totteham are bigger than Chelsea & Arsenal fan base wise the Morale of the story is what another Morale victory for the losers that are Spurs supporters u really are a sad lot

you aint a big side cause of Fan base [Newcastle]its because of success & Spurs is minimal at best ,Villa ,Arsenal ,Chelsea ,Pool are bigger teams than Spurs easily

Villa are a bigger Club than Tottenham

Spurs Honours

Tottenham League Champions:
1950-51, 1960-61

FA Cup Winners:
1901, 1921, 1961, 1962, 1967, 1981, 1982, 1991

Football League Cup Winners:
1971, 1973, 1999

European Cup Winners' Cup Winners:
1963

UEFA Cup Winners:
1972, 1984
____________________________________________

Aston Villa

Division 1 Champions: 1893/1894, 1895/1896, 1896/1897, 1898/1899, 1899/1900, 1909/1910, 1980/1981.

Division 2 Champions: 1937/1938, 1959/1960.

Division 3 Champions: 1971/1972


Domestic Cups:

FA Cup Winners: 1887, 1895, 1897, 1905, 1913, 1920, 1957.

League Cup Winners: 1961, 1975, 1977, 1994, 1996.


European Competitions:

European Cup Winners: 1982

European Super Cup Winners: 1983
bigger club, I will get my tape measure out and check it for you.

having u right big posts like that only illustrates that u have been rattled by the truth :owned:

Totteham are bigger than Chelsea & Arsenal fan base wise the Morale of the story is what another Morale victory for the losers that are Spurs supporters u really are a sad lot

you aint a big side cause of Fan base [Newcastle]its because of success & Spurs is minimal at best ,Villa ,Arsenal ,Chelsea ,Pool are bigger teams than Spurs easily

**** sake how old are you?

How was I rattled, did I slag any team off and say we were bigger NO.
I put points across as to why either team could be called bigger than the other. Not saying any of them are right or we are bigger or not.

I don't want a slagging match I want a sensible debate and not have some child saying :owned: because I disagree with them and put forward a sensible post that you're obviously to young to interpret or too ignorant too read properly and only pick certain points out.

I've read a lot of your posts and you can be sensible until someone disagrees with you then the little child in you comes out and it's all guns blazing.

You never answer anyone's questions properly when in discussion you just verbally attack.

So now I await a reply but your probably only gonna pick out the negative aspects I mentioned about your character and verbally attack me instead of manning up and apolagizing.

I have also done this on a few occasions and gone off on a rant when there has been a misunderstanding in communications but stepped aside and apolagized for being a prick, maybe because I was tired or having a bad day.
We can all be wrong sometimes and all be cunts but can we admit it or do we try and save face and carry on like arseholes.

I don't want a slagging match I want a sensible debate and not have some child saying because I disagree with them and put forward a sensible post that you're obviously to young to interpret or too ignorant too read properly and only pick certain points out.

u mean im to young to appreciate Tottenhams Morale victorys

"So on fanbase Tottenham are a bigger side than not only Villa but Arsenal and Chelsea as well."

"Tottenham were the FIRST british team to win a european trophy."

Tottenham have outplayed Arsenal yet been unlucky not to get the result lol ,u are just another dillusioned spurs fan who thinks Morale victorys & denial make u a big Club when in reallity u are well followed club with very little success

Aston Villa are a bigger sides than Tottenham success makes u a big club

Newcastle have a massive following spend ****loads of Cash aswell but they are'nt a bigger side than Villa based on History & Success

big teams are determined by success ,i aint saying Tottenham aint a big club but Aston Villa are bigger yet people get the impression that Spurs & Newcastle are the Bigger clubs becaue of their demand for success & the Money they spend
the Toon have won the league 4 times, FA cup 6 times, and 7 times runners up, 1 uafa cup
rec crowd 68,386.

the Toon have won the league 4 times, FA cup 6 times, and 7 times runners up, 1 uafa cup
rec crowd 68,386.

7 times runners up **** off:ugh:

7 times runners up **** off:ugh:
check your facts numb nuts.

check your facts numb nuts.

i believe u its just RUNNERS UP who gives a ****

wooden spoon mate

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Dutch survey: Spurs a small club
By Brenzalot July 27 2006
According to a big survey in Holland and Belgium, North-London outfit, Totenham Hotspur are a small club. Thousands of people were asked to fill in the survey, all across the lowlands. Many people didn't even know the name Tottenham Hotspur, the club who are well known for being snubbed by a series of players.

5% of the questioned people didn't know the London based club, 77% think Spurs are an average Premiership side, 8% of the people say the club are Englands 6th club after England big guns Manchester United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool and Newcastle United. And finally 10% think Spurs are an Icehockey team.

The outcome of the survey isn't very surprising but confirms Tottenham's status as a small club.

http://www.roymorgan.com/news/press-releases/2006/490/

According to this Tottenham have more fans than Villa but it is difficult to prove who is the bigger club and it really depends on what criteria you base it on.

http://www.roymorgan.com/news/press-releases/2006/490/

According to this Tottenham have more fans than Villa but it is difficult to prove who is the bigger club and it really depends on what criteria you base it on.
thats an interesting source actually.... but its difficult to know how accurate that really is

plus with regards tottenham and villa, i guess you could say that london has 8 times the population birmingham has so that could have something to do with it. but on the other hand london has more teams to follow so maybe swings and roundabouts

I don't want a slagging match I want a sensible debate and not have some child saying because I disagree with them and put forward a sensible post that you're obviously to young to interpret or too ignorant too read properly and only pick certain points out.

u mean im to young to appreciate Tottenhams Morale victorys

"So on fanbase Tottenham are a bigger side than not only Villa but Arsenal and Chelsea as well."

"Tottenham were the FIRST british team to win a european trophy."

Tottenham have outplayed Arsenal yet been unlucky not to get the result lol ,u are just another dillusioned spurs fan who thinks Morale victorys & denial make u a big Club when in reallity u are well followed club with very little success

Aston Villa are a bigger sides than Tottenham success makes u a big club

Never said they were bigger on fanbase, I said on a recent survey which I will try to find a link for. Obviously it depends on how many people were surveyed. According to that survey Tottenham were ahead of Villa,Chelsea and Arsenal.

I was putting points across for Villa and Tottenham and never said I agreed with any of them.

In regards to the european trophy comment, I asked how you define who is bigger is it domestic or european success then pointed out we had more european trophies than arsenal and were the first club to win a trophy in europe. I never said that makes us bigger.

Never said you was to young to appreciate morale victories but at least acknowledge when the opposing team has played well and were unlucky to lose, all I said was that at times in the last few games we outplayed arsenal which is true. Yes we lost but showed we have the ability to compete with the big clubs when we play at our best and get our defense and tactics sorted out. Even Lineker,Hanson and all the others have said spurs were unlucky in the last few games and looked the better side for the majority of the game. But you refuse to admit that we have played any good football at all and were bottlers and were not the best team on the night when we beat you 5-1 regardless of who was playing.

How far do you go back when counting success, because Huddersfield have won the league 3 times all in a row, so does that make them a bigger club than Tottenham and Chelsea.
Villa have won more trophies overall but recent success there is nothing to choose between them.

Since 1980 - Five trophies each
Since 1990 - Two trophies each
Since 2000 - Nothing

Never said they were bigger on fanbase, I said on a recent survey which I will try to find a link for. Obviously it depends on how many people were surveyed. According to that survey Tottenham were ahead of Villa,Chelsea and Arsenal.

I was putting points across for Villa and Tottenham and never said I agreed with any of them.

In regards to the european trophy comment, I asked how you define who is bigger is it domestic or european success then pointed out we had more european trophies than arsenal and were the first club to win a trophy in europe. I never said that makes us bigger.

Well what is the point in bringing it up ill tell u why cause your trying to give Spurs another undeserved pat on the back

Success in general is what determines if u are a big club or not ,u are taking arguments & choosing the parts u want to focus on so u can make Spurs sound better than they actully are ,when in reallity we all know on the whole Arsenal ,Chelsea ,Villa are bigger Clubs because the have had more success period

........ LOL MMdSn1nJ_MU

Never said they were bigger on fanbase, I said on a recent survey which I will try to find a link for. Obviously it depends on how many people were surveyed. According to that survey Tottenham were ahead of Villa,Chelsea and Arsenal.

I was putting points across for Villa and Tottenham and never said I agreed with any of them.

In regards to the european trophy comment, I asked how you define who is bigger is it domestic or european success then pointed out we had more european trophies than arsenal and were the first club to win a trophy in europe. I never said that makes us bigger.

Well what is the point in bringing it up ill tell u why cause your trying to give Spurs another undeserved pat on the back

Success in general is what determines if u are a big club or not ,u are taking arguments & choosing the parts u want to focus on so u can make Spurs sound better than they actully are ,when in reallity we all know on the whole Arsenal ,Chelsea ,Villa are bigger Clubs because the have had more success period

The point in bringing it up wasn't to give Spurs a pat on the back, I'll give any team a pat on the back. All points were brought up to show you it depends which way you look at it. You look at it one way Villa are bigger another then Tottenham but it really doesn't matter. What matters is success and recent success, and neither of them have won anything this century.

In premiership terms Liverpool are the biggest club as they have had the most wins but haven't won the title for nearly 20 years, so biggest doesn't mean the best. You are only as good as your last season, or last game for that fact.

Oh just to be pedantic Chelsea haven't had more overall success than Tottenham.

Chelsea 13 major trophies won
Tottenham 16 major trophies won

Is it based of fan numbers, trophies won or do you use wealth or money generated, Everton are deemed to be successful under their foreign manger Moyes, but the have won nowt, Reading last year were thought of as successful they won nowt, same as Portsmouth.
If it’s based on wealth then Chelsea, Newcastle and QPR are the boys at the minute if its money generated then it’s Arsenal, Man Utd and Newcastle.
If you start by having a go at a club because you think you’re club is bigger you are obviously masking a problem of lack of success with your own chosen club, personally My only concern is the success (or lack of) of my own club (Newcastle) everyone else can go and **** themselves especially Sunderland.

The point in bringing it up wasn't to give Spurs a pat on the back, I'll give any team a pat on the back. All points were brought up to show you it depends which way you look at it. You look at it one way Villa are bigger another then Tottenham but it really doesn't matter. What matters is success and recent success, and neither of them have won anything this century.

In premiership terms Liverpool are the biggest club as they have had the most wins but haven't won the title for nearly 20 years, so biggest doesn't mean the best. You are only as good as your last season, or last game for that fact.

Oh just to be pedantic Chelsea haven't had more overall success than Tottenham.

Chelsea 13 major trophies won
Tottenham 16 major trophies won

1st ,nobody said biggest means best

2nd ,there is only one way of looking at it unless u are a dillusional Spud who is looking for a way to talk Spurs up because there Trophy contradicts the notion they are a big club ,success is aquired by winning Trophies & the more Trophies u have amassed the bigger your Club is

3RD ,u would have to say recent success does'nt matter to suport your argument would'nt u cause if u go back in history Villa ****s all over Tottenham for Success

big sides are successfull sides past or present u dont lose your heritage & History because u have 'nt been successfull in recent times ,and u have a trophy cabinet to support the success of your team over the years & that supports the theory that u are a big club regardless of recent success

Tottenham Cabinet does'nt support the claim they are bigger than Villa or Arsenal by any stretch

thought u might be interested in this Hurricane

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