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edmendoza101
01-29-2008, 01:04 AM
What's your take on this?

In case it's true...Are you ready?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUwKDwETctc&feature=related

chito
01-29-2008, 01:11 AM
What's your take on this?

In case it's true...Are you ready?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUwKDwETctc&feature=related

hindi pa. kaw bro?

edmendoza101
01-29-2008, 01:14 AM
hindi pa. kaw bro?








handa dre! Kaya lang wag mo na tanong kung papano...Lol

BoBeTs
01-29-2008, 05:31 AM
handa na rin ako... nakita ko na to sa ibang forum, still on the debate really, kakainis lang minsan kung pati sa bibilya dinadamay na...

Counter Puncher
01-29-2008, 05:41 AM
Masyadong astrological ang approach nito at masyadong maraming probabilities na pinresent. I am Christian so I prefer to stick to the Bible. And from what I understand, this is what the Bible says:

1. No one, including Jesus, but only the Father, knows when THE DAY will come. So if someone tells you a date, he's a fake.

2. In the book of Revelations, the whole Christian Era, which is the last era before THE DAY comes, is divided into Seven Seals.

3. For each of the 7 seals, signs or prophecies were given so we know if a seal is fulfilled already. As far as I understand and I believe, we are now on the 7th or the LAST seal. You think that's very near the end huh? read number 4...

4. The 7th or LAST seal is further divided into 7 blowing of trumpets by the angels of GOD. Each blowing of the trumpet is accompanied by signs or prophecies so we'd know if the trumpet had been blown. Now, here's the scary part, as far as I understand and I believe, the 6th or penultimate trumpet had already been blown, and we're just waiting for the 7th or LAST trumpet to sound off. But there will be no more signs, coz when that blows, its THE END! Too late for whatever. So if you intend to prepare for that day, NOW is the time, my friend.

So even if I don't believe in this Mayan transition on Dec 2012, I do believe that THE DAY is very very very near. It may even be earlier than 2012. It could be later, but not very much. We do not know when really. No one knows. But we do know its near....so why take the chance? The question remains. Are we ready? Are you?

edmendoza101
01-29-2008, 09:43 AM
Masyadong astrological ang approach nito at masyadong maraming probabilities na pinresent. I am Christian so I prefer to stick to the Bible. And from what I understand, this is what the Bible says:

1. No one, including Jesus, but only the Father, knows when THE DAY will come. So if someone tells you a date, he's a fake.

2. In the book of Revelations, the whole Christian Era, which is the last era before THE DAY comes, is divided into Seven Seals.

3. For each of the 7 seals, signs or prophecies were given so we know if a seal is fulfilled already. As far as I understand and I believe, we are now on the 7th or the LAST seal. You think that's very near the end huh? read number 4...

4. The 7th or LAST seal is further divided into 7 blowing of trumpets by the angels of GOD. Each blowing of the trumpet is accompanied by signs or prophecies so we'd know if the trumpet had been blown. Now, here's the scary part, as far as I understand and I believe, the 6th or penultimate trumpet had already been blown, and we're just waiting for the 7th or LAST trumpet to sound off. But there will be no more signs, coz when that blows, its THE END! Too late for whatever. So if you intend to prepare for that day, NOW is the time, my friend.

So even if I don't believe in this Mayan transition on Dec 2012, I do believe that THE DAY is very very very near. It may even be earlier than 2012. It could be later, but not very much. We do not know when really. No one knows. But we do know its near....so why take the chance? The question remains. Are we ready? Are you?




Tol, God gave us some signs before Jesus' returns. First of He said that we will be hearing wars and rumors of wars, then He said there will be earthquakes in diverse places, then famines,pestelences etc.He said that we shouldn't worry coz these things should first come to pass. Then the antichrist will be revealed,(some Bible scholars believed that this guy is coming out of the European Union-(revived Roman Empire) followed by the great tribulation period the worst of the worst that the world haven't experienced since the creation.Eto ata yung Third world war ( use of Nuclear weapons) Then Jerusalem will be attack by the great forces from the North, if u look at your map you'll see Russia right on top of Israel. Tol a month ago lumabas na kulay ng Russia and that they allied with Iran, and Iranian president had been very vocal about annihilating Israel.Their nuclear program is progressing rapidly. Prophecy is being fulfilled right before our very eyes.
Pag nakuha na nila ang Israel, then Jesus returns to set up His Kingdom in the mount of Olives( Jerusalem) and He will put a stop on those who are destrying the world then the judgement........and so on and so fort.

Mahaba pa tol pero stop muna tayo! hehehe

Tama ka ang tanong...Are you ready?

guardian
01-29-2008, 11:17 AM
read the book LEFT BEHIND... magandang book yun 12 books total

about the rapture yun check niyo ;d

edmendoza101
01-29-2008, 11:30 AM
read the book LEFT BEHIND... magandang book yun 12 books total

about the rapture yun check niyo ;d




I've already watched the movie tol. Same question: Are you ready?

Counter Puncher
01-30-2008, 12:29 AM
read the book LEFT BEHIND... magandang book yun 12 books total

about the rapture yun check niyo ;d

langya, eh and dami namang libro nyan, 12! baka bago ko matapos yan, tapos na mundo! Ngyahahaha!

San ka ngayon Pareng Dennis?

Counter Puncher
01-30-2008, 12:31 AM
I've already watched the movie tol. Same question: Are you ready?

To be safe, I'd say I'm GETTING ready! hehehe

Pero bago manyari yun, gusto ko munang magkaron ng t-shirt na nasa signature mo tol, yung nasa baba!

edmendoza101
01-30-2008, 01:08 AM
To be safe, I'd say I'm GETTING ready! hehehe

Pero bago manyari yun, gusto ko munang magkaron ng t-shirt na nasa signature mo tol, yung nasa baba!






to be ready tol, whatever the Bible says e yun yun. I am a believer din!

dito ko nakuha ang t-shirts sa site na to...pasukan mo!

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=144244

daming magagandang t-shirts diyan.

KESSLER
01-30-2008, 02:21 AM
Only queers believe in that ****.

phallus
01-30-2008, 02:29 AM
Masyadong astrological ang approach nito at masyadong maraming probabilities na pinresent. I am Christian so I prefer to stick to the Bible. And from what I understand, this is what the Bible says:

1. No one, including Jesus, but only the Father, knows when THE DAY will come. So if someone tells you a date, he's a fake.

2. In the book of Revelations, the whole Christian Era, which is the last era before THE DAY comes, is divided into Seven Seals.

3. For each of the 7 seals, signs or prophecies were given so we know if a seal is fulfilled already. As far as I understand and I believe, we are now on the 7th or the LAST seal. You think that's very near the end huh? read number 4...

4. The 7th or LAST seal is further divided into 7 blowing of trumpets by the angels of GOD. Each blowing of the trumpet is accompanied by signs or prophecies so we'd know if the trumpet had been blown. Now, here's the scary part, as far as I understand and I believe, the 6th or penultimate trumpet had already been blown, and we're just waiting for the 7th or LAST trumpet to sound off. But there will be no more signs, coz when that blows, its THE END! Too late for whatever. So if you intend to prepare for that day, NOW is the time, my friend.

So even if I don't believe in this Mayan transition on Dec 2012, I do believe that THE DAY is very very very near. It may even be earlier than 2012. It could be later, but not very much. We do not know when really. No one knows. But we do know its near....so why take the chance? The question remains. Are we ready? Are you?


the bible says we'll know when we're getting close to the end times "but no man knows the exact day or hour". it does say some very interesting things about the end times, though, that " because of the increase of wickedness, the love of many will grow cold ", and " having a form of godliness but denying it's power", and makes some comments about people's selfishness, both these things are true today, most people are selfish pieces of **** who don't care about anything except getting as much as they can for themsleves. that's how i know we're getting close to the end

JOM'S
01-30-2008, 04:46 AM
i am also a believer mga tol pero what i fear most is death ...

pero kung end of the world, i would gladly face it when it happens, finish or not finish... sana nga abutan ko yun ...

guardian
01-30-2008, 06:29 AM
I've already watched the movie tol. Same question: Are you ready?
Im getting ready... inaayos ko na buhay ko :D
Seriously

guardian
01-30-2008, 06:31 AM
langya, eh and dami namang libro nyan, 12! baka bago ko matapos yan, tapos na mundo! Ngyahahaha!

San ka ngayon Pareng Dennis?
Call Boy nako bro... sa gabi ako kumakayod hehehehe

pareng ronnie parang ndi na nakalimutan express ang may hawak ng LRT ah... tapos naba contract niyo?

Counter Puncher
01-30-2008, 07:41 PM
Call Boy nako bro... sa gabi ako kumakayod hehehehe

pareng ronnie parang ndi na nakalimutan express ang may hawak ng LRT ah... tapos naba contract niyo?

hindi na nga tol. Nine Miles habitat na, yung bagong employer ko. pero ako pa rin nag-ma-manage. tapos tie up kami sa Coke, you might have noticed?

Counter Puncher
01-30-2008, 07:50 PM
i am also a believer mga tol pero what i fear most is death ...

pero kung end of the world, i would gladly face it when it happens, finish or not finish... sana nga abutan ko yun ...

we all fear death Joms, coz we do not know when it will come to us and how it will come to us (unless we commit suicide). but all of us will go, whether we were good or bad, whether we are "ready" or "Not". What we should all fear the MOST therefore is not the death which is loss of breath, but the "2nd DEATH" that the Bible speaks of. It is that 2nd death in the "lake of fire" mentioned in Revelations that is in store for those who did not "prepare" or were "not ready" when their end came (ie either loss of breath or end of the world). This 2nd death is not just loss of breath but eternal punishment where you are burned alive in hell for eternity. Now if that is not scary enough, the Bible says even those who are already dead but were not "ready" will be risen just to be cooked in that burning lake! So, it doesnt mean that if you died before the END, you are spared of this punishment. So, the question now changes a bit> Are you ready to face the 1st death, and eventually, the 2nd death?

Counter Puncher
01-30-2008, 08:02 PM
we all fear death Joms, coz we do not know when it will come to us and how it will come to us (unless we commit suicide). but all of us will go, whether we were good or bad, whether we are "ready" or "Not". What we should all fear the MOST therefore is not the death which is loss of breath, but the "2nd DEATH" that the Bible speaks of. It is that 2nd death in the "lake of fire" mentioned in Revelations that is in store for those who did not "prepare" or were "not ready" when their end came (ie either loss of breath or end of the world). This 2nd death is not just loss of breath but eternal punishment where you are burned alive in hell for eternity. Now if that is not scary enough, the Bible says even those who are already dead but were not "ready" will be risen just to be cooked in that burning lake! So, it doesnt mean that if you died before the END, you are spared of this punishment. So, the question now changes a bit> Are you ready to face the 1st death, and eventually, the 2nd death?

I am not asking anyone to believe in what I am saying in this thread, nor i'm just trying to scare anybody. I am just sharing my belief, with the Bible as my basis. Because, when we are open minded enough to ask the question "What if these are true?", we will also be open minded enough to seek the things we need to do to get "Ready" for any eventuality. Because getting ready means now, not later, when everything will be too late.

Counter Puncher
01-30-2008, 08:07 PM
the bible says we'll know when we're getting close to the end times "but no man knows the exact day or hour". it does say some very interesting things about the end times, though, that " because of the increase of wickedness, the love of many will grow cold ", and " having a form of godliness but denying it's power", and makes some comments about people's selfishness, both these things are true today, most people are selfish pieces of **** who don't care about anything except getting as much as they can for themsleves. that's how i know we're getting close to the end

very well said filth, a complete opposite of your handle(, except for the Sh*t word. LOL!) yes we are close. the new testament where you quoted the "end times" was written 2 millenium ago and they were already talking about how near we are to the end. its now 2008, how can we be wrong?

edmendoza101
01-30-2008, 11:32 PM
Mga bro. the Bible is clear there is no other name was given by which we are going to be saved but the name of JESUS. Jesus said" I am the way the Truth and the Life no one comes to the Father but by Me"
The Father said" This is My Son in whom I am delighted, listen to Him"

Is there anybody among you guys is familliar with the book" Purpose Driven Life?" by Rick Warren. Try to get one and read this book bro. well worth reading.

I think unless we read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, it's difficult to understand the true thoughts of the Father and His plan for us, now and after we take our last breath. I believed of the promised eternal life which was freely given to those who seek the Lord with all their hearts, mind and soul. It is so easy to say" I believed in Jesus" the question is " Do we obey Him, do we listen to Him? Are we serving Him? God knows our hearts and we can never hide anything from Him.
Unless we fully understand the reason why God created us and placed us on Earth (the only planet among the vast universe with air composed of oxygen which provides life)
Unless we fully understand why sometimes life seems so unfair to us.
and so on....
And last one...unless we fully understand why the Father sent His only begotten Son to die on the cross when He got Moses, Elijah, David and some important characters of the Bible who once died but now having a good time with God in heaven as the bible claimed which I believed with all my heart.
Unless we understand these stuff, I think we're not ready.
The good news is if we live our life for the Lord, fear of death is downplayed by the gift of eternal life, because death leads us to the presence of God. As the bible says" In the absence from the body is the presence with the Lord" this will eventually rid our fear of death.thru the help of the Holy Spirit living in us.

Mga tol....full gospel lang ...walang dagdag walang bawas! (it is also a sin to do that.... bible claimed)

salamat...God bless!

edmendoza101
01-30-2008, 11:35 PM
Only queers believe in that ****.




the door is wide open for you man!

\/oid161
01-30-2008, 11:51 PM
the question has been re-stated several times throughout this thread, "Are you ready?" quite simply, for me anyway, no, im scared to death. With so many religions in this vast world of ours, why are we the ones that are right? why are the christians right? when the final judgement comes and we havent the time to be forgiven for our past sins, of course everyone is going to wish that they hadn't murdered or stolen. but we have people in this world who are bound to the same fate as the ones who are as pure as god himself. All the men who have killed an iraqi soldier, or all the iraqis that have killed other men, we all get ours in the end, yeah, they may go to hell, which may or may not exist. but we all die. so in the end, nothing matters anymore, you could be a murderer or a librarian and still you have life ripped from your clutches, as so many have had done to them before....it doesnt balance.

edmendoza101
01-31-2008, 12:17 AM
the question has been re-stated several times throughout this thread, "Are you ready?" quite simply, for me anyway, no, im scared to death. With so many religions in this vast world of ours, why are we the ones that are right? why are the christians right? when the final judgement comes and we havent the time to be forgiven for our past sins, of course everyone is going to wish that they hadn't murdered or stolen. but we have people in this world who are bound to the same fate as the ones who are as pure as god himself. All the men who have killed an iraqi soldier, or all the iraqis that have killed other men, we all get ours in the end, yeah, they may go to hell, which may or may not exist. but we all die. so in the end, nothing matters anymore, you could be a murderer or a librarian and still you have life ripped from your clutches, as so many have had done to them before....it doesnt balance.





Read my post bro.
It doesn't matter whether you killed a hundred people or you had donated all your possesions to the poor, bad, good,murderer,robber. Jesus died on the cross for you.Because He loves you that much. as John 3:16 says" For God so love the world that He gave His only Son so that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life".
Bro. this world we lived in is under cursed, due to the sins of our forefathers, it is therefore run by the enemy (Satan) obviously (murders,killings and all kinds of brutality and infidelities.)
That is why God sent His only Son as a sacrificed, a blood needs to flow not from the animal (used to be a lamb in the old test.) but from God himself the human (Christ). New Test. This is to show how precious we are to Him.He needs to die for our salvation. Then He was raised from the dead and He overcame death so that we too can overcome it.
If you accept Christ as your Lord and Saviour He will pick up the pieces for you and balance everything in your life. Just believe in Him with all your heart bro and experienced His awesome presence in your life.

Thank you and God bless you!

THE REED™
01-31-2008, 12:34 AM
Wtf Is With This Retarded Language U Guys Are Speaking

edmendoza101
01-31-2008, 02:03 AM
we all fear death Joms, coz we do not know when it will come to us and how it will come to us (unless we commit suicide). but all of us will go, whether we were good or bad, whether we are "ready" or "Not". What we should all fear the MOST therefore is not the death which is loss of breath, but the "2nd DEATH" that the Bible speaks of. It is that 2nd death in the "lake of fire" mentioned in Revelations that is in store for those who did not "prepare" or were "not ready" when their end came (ie either loss of breath or end of the world). This 2nd death is not just loss of breath but eternal punishment where you are burned alive in hell for eternity. Now if that is not scary enough, the Bible says even those who are already dead but were not "ready" will be risen just to be cooked in that burning lake! So, it doesnt mean that if you died before the END, you are spared of this punishment. So, the question now changes a bit> Are you ready to face the 1st death, and eventually, the 2nd death?





tol' no offense pero di ata yan ang sinasabi sa Bible e. Pag nagpakamatay ka definitely impyerno ang punta mo at yan ang sabi sa bible. Totoong merong first and second death which is the eternal one( eternal punishment sa hell)
ang first death di natin malulusutan dahil mortal body pa ang katawan natin gawa ng sin.Yan ang dahilan kung bakit namatay si Jesus para mabuhay din tayo ulit at mabigyan tayo ng immortal body that will fit God's kingdom in heaven.(Heavenly bodies na). Ngayon yung second death maiiwasan natin dahil na nga kay Jesus, kung susunod tayo sa utos niya at gagawin natin ang plano ng Diyos para sa atin (malalaman mo yun sa talent na binigay sa yo kailangan gamitin mo yun sa pagserve sa kanya) Hindi basta salita lang na "Mahal ko si Jesus" ok na...No brother...pinakikilos niya tayo para magextend ang kanyang Kingdom dito sa Mundo pagkat gusto niya lahat tayo ay mailigtas pero sabi sa bible na talagang di maiiwasan na maraming hindi maliligtas, yung mga tinatawag niyang mga wicked people at talagang matitigas ang ulo na binabalewala ang salita ng Diyos na nagpaka ignorante hanggang sa huli, yun ang di maliligtas. Ayaw niyang maging idle tayo o di bigyan ng pansin ang kanyang utos. Sabi nga sa bible " Man does not live by bread alone but by every word that comes out of the mouth of God"
Tol...ang basehan ng ibinubuhay natin sa mundo ay salita ng Diyos walang bawas walang dagdag pagkat sabi niya pag dinagdagan daw natin ang bible o binawasan e kasalan din.
Kung naniniwala ka sa Rapture tol, at sumusonod tayo kay Jesus wala tayong dapat ikabahala sa Tribulation period. Eto ang pinakamalupit na mararanasan ng tao sa mundo, pinakamagulo. Reign of Antichrist. Eto ang dapat nating katakutan, kailangan wala na tayo dito bago to mangyari......papano? Si Jesus ang kasagutan! Nasa bible din yan tol. 3 years and half tong tribulation period bro, just imagine groceries will be emptied, no food, water are contaminated due to nuclear bomb, ano sa palagay mo mangyayari dito sa yo kung andito ka pa during this horrible time? Pero tol di pa yan ang second death, sa marami first death pa rin yan, pero mangyayari tong tribulation tol para bigyan ng chance yung iba na makilala si Jesus at tumanggap, at yung tatanggap ay makakalusot doon sa tinatawag na second death.
Medyo mahaba na.......
Salamat tol!

Counter Puncher
01-31-2008, 05:18 AM
tol' no offense pero di ata yan ang sinasabi sa Bible e. Pag nagpakamatay ka definitely impyerno ang punta mo at yan ang sabi sa bible. Totoong merong first and second death which is the eternal one( eternal punishment sa hell)
ang first death di natin malulusutan dahil mortal body pa ang katawan natin gawa ng sin.Yan ang dahilan kung bakit namatay si Jesus para mabuhay din tayo ulit at mabigyan tayo ng immortal body that will fit God's kingdom in heaven.(Heavenly bodies na). Ngayon yung second death maiiwasan natin dahil na nga kay Jesus, kung susunod tayo sa utos niya at gagawin natin ang plano ng Diyos para sa atin (malalaman mo yun sa talent na binigay sa yo kailangan gamitin mo yun sa pagserve sa kanya) Hindi basta salita lang na "Mahal ko si Jesus" ok na...No brother...pinakikilos niya tayo para magextend ang kanyang Kingdom dito sa Mundo pagkat gusto niya lahat tayo ay mailigtas pero sabi sa bible na talagang di maiiwasan na maraming hindi maliligtas, yung mga tinatawag niyang mga wicked people at talagang matitigas ang ulo na binabalewala ang salita ng Diyos na nagpaka ignorante hanggang sa huli, yun ang di maliligtas. Ayaw niyang maging idle tayo o di bigyan ng pansin ang kanyang utos. Sabi nga sa bible " Man does not live by bread alone but by every word that comes out of the mouth of God"
Tol...ang basehan ng ibinubuhay natin sa mundo ay salita ng Diyos walang bawas walang dagdag pagkat sabi niya pag dinagdagan daw natin ang bible o binawasan e kasalan din.
Kung naniniwala ka sa Rapture tol, at sumusonod tayo kay Jesus wala tayong dapat ikabahala sa Tribulation period. Eto ang pinakamalupit na mararanasan ng tao sa mundo, pinakamagulo. Reign of Antichrist. Eto ang dapat nating katakutan, kailangan wala na tayo dito bago to mangyari......papano? Si Jesus ang kasagutan! Nasa bible din yan tol. 3 years and half tong tribulation period bro, just imagine groceries will be emptied, no food, water are contaminated due to nuclear bomb, ano sa palagay mo mangyayari dito sa yo kung andito ka pa during this horrible time? Pero tol di pa yan ang second death, sa marami first death pa rin yan, pero mangyayari tong tribulation tol para bigyan ng chance yung iba na makilala si Jesus at tumanggap, at yung tatanggap ay makakalusot doon sa tinatawag na second death.
Medyo mahaba na.......
Salamat tol!


Im not offended tol, but medyo namisinterpret mo lang siguro sinabi ko. I didnt mean na if you commited suicide you'd go to heaven. I just wanted to say that no one knows when he will die unless he took his own life (kasi pag nagpakamatay ka, alam mo na tepok ka na di ba?). but definitely he will not be saved kasi pinangunahan nyo si Lord. I'm also with you that no one shall escape the first death (loss of breath), except (it is written tol) abutan ka ni Jesus na buhay at "ready ka na". ito ang gusto ko dahil di ka na mamamatay pa, whether first or second death.

Now on the issue of the second death, it is clearly written that those of Christ shall not experience this anymore,so I'm with you. di ko na dinetalye pa yung tribulation period, 1000years of reign, etc, etc.(tutal dinetalye mo na hehehe). I just wanted to emphasize that the first death is not the ultimate payment of our sin, but the second death in the lake of fire! Kaya hindi yung 1st death and dapat nating katakutan kundi yung pangalawa. And the preparation cannot be done when we are already dead (and we do not know when that'll be) , but NOW that we are still alive (and we dont know either up to when)!

JOM'S
01-31-2008, 06:52 AM
we all fear death Joms, coz we do not know when it will come to us and how it will come to us (unless we commit suicide). but all of us will go, whether we were good or bad, whether we are "ready" or "Not". What we should all fear the MOST therefore is not the death which is loss of breath, but the "2nd DEATH" that the Bible speaks of. It is that 2nd death in the "lake of fire" mentioned in Revelations that is in store for those who did not "prepare" or were "not ready" when their end came (ie either loss of breath or end of the world). This 2nd death is not just loss of breath but eternal punishment where you are burned alive in hell for eternity. Now if that is not scary enough, the Bible says even those who are already dead but were not "ready" will be risen just to be cooked in that burning lake! So, it doesnt mean that if you died before the END, you are spared of this punishment. So, the question now changes a bit> Are you ready to face the 1st death, and eventually, the 2nd death?

my fear comes from "not knowing" or doubt...

1st death's uncertainty and doubts that's what i fear most, but for the 2nd, i will no longer have my doubts and all my questions answered, nothing to fear there anymore ...

JOM'S
01-31-2008, 07:02 AM
@ bro edmendoza ako naman mas gusto ko abutan yung Reign of Anti-Christ, gusto ko mapatunayan sa sarili ko na i can put everything on faith at hindi lang ako sa isip o sa salita lang ...

dapat kasi hindi ko na kinakatakutan ang kamatayan kung wala akong pag aanlinlangan sa aking pananampalataya...

msagrain
01-31-2008, 10:41 AM
I thought 2pac was ament to be coming back from the dead on 07/07/2007 :lol1:

edmendoza101
01-31-2008, 11:01 AM
@ bro edmendoza ako naman mas gusto ko abutan yung Reign of Anti-Christ, gusto ko mapatunayan sa sarili ko na i can put everything on faith at hindi lang ako sa isip o sa salita lang ...

dapat kasi hindi ko na kinakatakutan ang kamatayan kung wala akong pag aanlinlangan sa aking pananampalataya...






Tol Joms wag naman. Dun ako takot sa Tribulation period.Putulan ng leeg yun dre. :banghead: Lahat ng believers ha-huntingin ng mga tao ng anti Christ at pag tinanggap mo yung kanilang 666 sign impyerno ka tiyak.
Pag di mo tinanggap di ka makakabili ng kahit ano o tumanggap ng ration(food ) sa kanila. Tol talagang dreadful days yun, yoko nun! Lol
Tol yang doubt gawa din ng kalaban yan wag mong entertain-nin yan basta listen to God's voice lang...ganun lang kasimple yun.
Eto para sa mga doubters....

when you learned to doubt your doubt you won't be a doubter no more cause your doubt had been doubted cause you learned to doubt your doubt! Lol


God bless tol!

Itlog
01-31-2008, 01:52 PM
Mga bro. the Bible is clear there is no other name was given by which we are going to be saved but the name of JESUS. Jesus said" I am the way the Truth and the Life no one comes to the Father but by Me"
The Father said" This is My Son in whom I am delighted, listen to Him"

Is there anybody among you guys is familliar with the book" Purpose Driven Life?" by Rick Warren. Try to get one and read this book bro. well worth reading.

I think unless we read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, it's difficult to understand the true thoughts of the Father and His plan for us, now and after we take our last breath. I believed of the promised eternal life which was freely given to those who seek the Lord with all their hearts, mind and soul. It is so easy to say" I believed in Jesus" the question is " Do we obey Him, do we listen to Him? Are we serving Him? God knows our hearts and we can never hide anything from Him.
Unless we fully understand the reason why God created us and placed us on Earth (the only planet among the vast universe with air composed of oxygen which provides life)Unless we fully understand why sometimes life seems so unfair to us.
and so on....
And last one...unless we fully understand why the Father sent His only begotten Son to die on the cross when He got Moses, Elijah, David and some important characters of the Bible who once died but now having a good time with God in heaven as the bible claimed which I believed with all my heart.
Unless we understand these stuff, I think we're not ready.
The good news is if we live our life for the Lord, fear of death is downplayed by the gift of eternal life, because death leads us to the presence of God. As the bible says" In the absence from the body is the presence with the Lord" this will eventually rid our fear of death.thru the help of the Holy Spirit living in us.

Mga tol....full gospel lang ...walang dagdag walang bawas! (it is also a sin to do that.... bible claimed)

salamat...God bless!

Tignan mo mga litrato dito:

http://karenshanley.com/blog/?p=479

it gives you a whole new perspective on how small we are. We are just a speck of dust within our own galaxy, nevermind the whole universe. Do you honestly believe we are the only living planet?

Chups
01-31-2008, 02:06 PM
This topic didn't do well in Pacland. :D

Madami kasing PMRO bullies eh............:D

Itlog
01-31-2008, 02:13 PM
This topic didn't do well in Pacland. :D

Madami kasing PMRO bullies eh............:D

Ano'ng PMRO tol?

I never expect any religion/race discussion to do well anywhere.... only reason why this has not turned into a heated argument yet e dahil mga tropa ang nagdi-discuss at di pinapansin ang mga kupal na sumisingit na pabalang ang posting.... hehehehe.

edmendoza101
01-31-2008, 06:03 PM
Tignan mo mga litrato dito:

http://karenshanley.com/blog/?p=479

it gives you a whole new perspective on how small we are. We are just a speck of dust within our own galaxy, nevermind the whole universe. Do you honestly believe we are the only living planet?








pare the based of my faith is the Bible for as long as the bible hasn't mention anything about any possibilities of life existing anywhere in the galaxy but earth, I will stick to my belief that earth is the only planet that has life chosen by the Creator to place His most beloved creation.....the humanity.


nakita ko na yang pix na yan emailed by a friend. Meron bang nakitang buhay diyan....just asking pre.

edmendoza101
01-31-2008, 06:09 PM
Ano'ng PMRO tol?

I never expect any religion/race discussion to do well anywhere.... only reason why this has not turned into a heated argument yet e dahil mga tropa ang nagdi-discuss at di pinapansin ang mga kupal na sumisingit na pabalang ang posting.... hehehehe.








tama ka pre. anyway di naman to pino-force kahit kanino medyo sharing lang...take it or leave it!

kaya nga di magkaigi kasi iba-iba ang paniwala. Matanong lang dre...ano ba ang paniwala mo.....no argument ha...just asking:banana:

lahat ng bagay actually pwedeng pagusapan ng maayos, basta respeto lang sa opinion ng iba di ba.

Chups
01-31-2008, 06:34 PM
Ano'ng PRMO tol?

I never expect any religion/race discussion to do well anywhere.... only reason why this has not turned into a heated argument yet e dahil mga tropa ang nagdi-discuss at di pinapansin ang mga kupal na sumisingit na pabalang ang posting.... hehehehe.

Yung mainstays dun sa Religion thread sa Pacland...masyadong mababagsik yung mga yun.

PRMO-Philosophy, Religion, Metaphysics, Occult

edmendoza101
01-31-2008, 06:43 PM
Yung mainstays dun sa Religion thread sa Pacland...masyadong mababagsik yung mga yun.

PRMO-Philosophy, Religion, Metaphysics, Occult






tindi doon pre di tumatanggap ng kristyano dun...lol
sa totoo lang walang respeto sa opinion ng iba particularly
christians. tindi sa pamimilosopo mga tao dun. 5 years na
yun pero sila-sila pa rin ang nagbobolahan dun:D :D :D

Chups
01-31-2008, 07:02 PM
tindi doon pre di tumatanggap ng kristyano dun...lol
sa totoo lang walang respeto sa opinion ng iba particularly
christians. tindi sa pamimilosopo mga tao dun. 5 years na
yun pero sila-sila pa rin ang nagbobolahan dun:D :D :D

Atin atin na lang to pero hindi ko maintindihan kung bakit nila minumura/kinukutya si Admerald...na sa tingin ko naman ay matino at magaling mag-defend nang Faith nya. Yung mga ibang Kristiano at muslim duon mas kinakampihan pa yung mga atheist.

Nasuspend kanina yung isa doon......grabe magmura eh.

kadyo
01-31-2008, 10:04 PM
Wala akong masasabi dito kundi, bata pa pala pag nag end of the world :D

edmendoza101
01-31-2008, 10:10 PM
Atin atin na lang to pero hindi ko maintindihan kung bakit nila minumura/kinukutya si Admerald...na sa tingin ko naman ay matino at magaling mag-defend nang Faith nya. Yung mga ibang Kristiano at muslim duon mas kinakampihan pa yung mga atheist.

Nasuspend kanina yung isa doon......grabe magmura eh.







Persecution bro. alam din ni admerald yun kaya yung tao nagsasawalang kibo na lamang. alam niya na maraming pakawala si Taning dun e.Lol...
Kailan man di pwedeng manalo ang kalaban sa salita ng Diyos kaya expected na mauuwi sa hatred at pamimilosopo ang diskusyon. Ako lang naman ang pikon tol e kaya medyo dumidistansya na lang ako at isa pa di ako masyadong gifted sa pag memorize ng mga verses ng bible gaya ni admerald.
yung iba dun dre nakikiride on na lang para lang wag kantiin ng mga bully dun...hehehe

suspendi ba.....well...talagang pag mahina ang pisi mo kailangan layo ka dun.

Chups
01-31-2008, 10:15 PM
Persecution bro. alam din ni admerald yun kaya yung tao nagsasawalang kibo na lamang. alam niya na maraming pakawala si Taning dun e.Lol...
Kailan man di pwedeng manalo ang kalaban sa salita ng Diyos kaya expected na mauuwi sa hatred at pamimilosopo ang diskusyon. Ako lang naman ang pikon tol e kaya medyo dumidistansya na lang ako at isa pa di ako masyadong gifted sa pag memorize ng mga verses ng bible gaya ni admerald.
yung iba dun dre nakikiride on na lang para lang wag kantiin ng mga bully dun...hehehe

suspendi ba.....well...talagang pag mahina ang pisi mo kailangan layo ka dun.

Hehehe I advice na lumayo ka nga nang konti dun dahil alm ko sensitive ka eh.......hehehe. But you've been good pare......kahit na dun sa thread mo. :biggthump

Counter Puncher
01-31-2008, 10:57 PM
Ano'ng PMRO tol?

I never expect any religion/race discussion to do well anywhere.... only reason why this has not turned into a heated argument yet e dahil mga tropa ang nagdi-discuss at di pinapansin ang mga kupal na sumisingit na pabalang ang posting.... hehehehe.

Tama ka pareng egg. And let's keep it this way at least for this thread to become a sharing forum. Suggestions ko lang sa mga tatambay dito para manatiling kalma dito:

1. wag pansinin at patulan ang mga bugok at pilosopo na posts.

2. wag kontrahin and mga paniniwala na ipo-post ng iba. instead mag post na lang ng alternative view o position. bahala na kung i-accept o i-reject ng babasa.walang pilitan ika nga, sharing lang at respeto.

3. wag gawing debate thread ito kundi sharing thread. self explanatory na siguro to. kung di ka agree sa sinabi ng isa, wag mo nang barahin kundi mag offer ka na lang ng sarili mong view. kung agree ka, sabihin mo.

4. i-limit na muna natin (for now) ang discussions sa Bible at Christianity. kasi dito pa lang, marami nang interpretation at views. wag na muna pagusapan ang ibang relihiyon (pasintabi na muna po sa ibang mga kapatid naming Muslim, Hindu atbp.). Tutal ang umpisa ng thread na ito ay tungkol sa end of the world sa Revelations, which is Bible and Christian based.

anymore suggestions?
what you think mga parekoy?

edmendoza101
01-31-2008, 11:01 PM
Hehehe I advice na lumayo ka nga nang konti dun dahil alm ko sensitive ka eh.......hehehe. But you've been good pare......kahit na dun sa thread mo. :biggthump










hehehe salamat parekoy.....


teka anong thread yun nasuspindi sa PRMO...silipin ko lang dre.:boxing:

Counter Puncher
01-31-2008, 11:11 PM
Tignan mo mga litrato dito:

http://karenshanley.com/blog/?p=479

it gives you a whole new perspective on how small we are. We are just a speck of dust within our own galaxy, nevermind the whole universe. Do you honestly believe we are the only living planet?

pare the based of my faith is the Bible for as long as the bible hasn't mention anything about any possibilities of life existing anywhere in the galaxy but earth, I will stick to my belief that earth is the only planet that has life chosen by the Creator to place His most beloved creation.....the humanity.


nakita ko na yang pix na yan emailed by a friend. Meron bang nakitang buhay diyan....just asking pre.


My faith is also purely based on the teachings of the Bible. The Bible didn't specifically mention anything about life in other planets. But it did mention "other creatures" without any further explanation. Even if we say that the good book did not mention anything specific about aliens or life in a distant planet, it doesn't mean also that they don't exist. But to me, that is immaterial. We live on our very own earth and we were given the Bible as our guide on how to live here and what to expect afterwards, and not told how to live elsewhere or how to deal with that. The Bible said everything that must be written was written and is enough for us to believe and achieve salvation. Anything that was not written doesnt mean they dont exist, didnt happen or not important. it just that what was written was enough. And the funny thing is that even with this "cap on the lid" put by God in the Bible, people still find it hard to follow what was written. So why ask for more, or even all? Be content on what was given to us and written to us and you shall find peace.

Counter Puncher
01-31-2008, 11:15 PM
my fear comes from "not knowing" or doubt...

1st death's uncertainty and doubts that's what i fear most, but for the 2nd, i will no longer have my doubts and all my questions answered, nothing to fear there anymore ...

tama ka dyan JOms in the sense na hindi mo nga alam kung kelan ka matitigok at kung handa ka na ba bago matigok. Kaya nga ngayon pa lang ay dapat magsuri na at hanapin ang katotohanan.

chito
01-31-2008, 11:46 PM
one of the things na mahirap pag-usapan ay religion. maraming nag-aaway dito kasi nagkakaiba sila ng mga paniniwala. i remember yung kaklase kong INC, one time nag-discuss kame about jesus christ, belief kasi nila, jesus christ is only a man/prophet and he is not God. we respected our classmate's opinion. what can we do, di sila naniniwala sa holy trinity? he's a nice person, most INC's i know ay mabubuting tao so that really tells us na religion won't make you good, it's the other way around!

Itlog
02-01-2008, 12:01 AM
pare the based of my faith is the Bible for as long as the bible hasn't mention anything about any possibilities of life existing anywhere in the galaxy but earth, I will stick to my belief that earth is the only planet that has life chosen by the Creator to place His most beloved creation.....the humanity.

nakita ko na yang pix na yan emailed by a friend. Meron bang nakitang buhay diyan....just asking pre.
Who's to say there isn't life there? Ni hindi pa natin naabot ang ibang planeta sa sarili nating solar system. We don't have the technology. Wala pa ding nakakita sa Diyos puwera lang sa ilan sa mga taong nagsabi at nagsulat sa bibliya and yet we still believe. ;)

tama ka pre. anyway di naman to pino-force kahit kanino medyo sharing lang...take it or leave it!
kaya nga di magkaigi kasi iba-iba ang paniwala. Matanong lang dre...ano ba ang paniwala mo.....no argument ha...just asking
lahat ng bagay actually pwedeng pagusapan ng maayos, basta respeto lang sa opinion ng iba di ba.
I'm a Christian, I believe there is a Supreme Being. The creation of life alone is a miracle in itself. But I'm open to the concept of, and do not discount the possibility of life other than ours. We can discuss and even argue, state your mind freely. Basta ba usapang matino at walang personalan, ayos lang yan.

Yung mainstays dun sa Religion thread sa Pacland...masyadong mababagsik yung mga yun.
PRMO-Philosophy, Religion, Metaphysics, Occult
oic... hehehehe... di kasi ako nagagawi dun.

Wala akong masasabi dito kundi, bata pa pala pag nag end of the world :D
honga..... hehehehe.... kelangan palang maka-uwi bago 2012 at nang maka-inuman kitang kalbo ka bago magunaw ang mundo.... :lol1:

My faith is also purely based on the teachings of the Bible. The Bible didn't specifically mention anything about life in other planets. But it did mention "other creatures" without any further explanation. Even if we say that the good book did not mention anything specific about aliens or life in a distant planet, it doesn't mean also that they don't exist. But to me, that is immaterial. We live on our very own earth and we were given the Bible as our guide on how to live here and what to expect afterwards, and not told how to live elsewhere or how to deal with that. The Bible said everything that must be written was written and is enough for us to believe and achieve salvation. Anything that was not written doesnt mean they dont exist, didnt happen or not important. it just that what was written was enough. And the funny thing is that even with this "cap on the lid" put by God in the Bible, people still find it hard to follow what was written. So why ask for more, or even all? Be content on what was given to us and written to us and you shall find peace.
Fair enough. It doesn't make any difference to me either way kung meron mang alien beings o wala... I was just replying to pareng ed's post. Opinyon ko, sa kahuli-hulihan walang kaso kung ano ang relihiyon mo if you lead a good life. If the Bible helps you to lead that life, then good for you.
Agree din ako dun sa guidelines mo, opinion sharing lang naman. Pero minsan di mo maiwasang merong isang panatiko na magpupukpok ng paniwala niya sa lahat at merong papatol. Doon usually nag-uumpisa ang mainit na argumento. Baka meron na namang mumurahin si dok :D

edmendoza101
02-01-2008, 12:11 AM
My faith is also purely based on the teachings of the Bible. The Bible didn't specifically mention anything about life in other planets. But it did mention "other creatures" without any further explanation. Even if we say that the good book did not mention anything specific about aliens or life in a distant planet, it doesn't mean also that they don't exist. But to me, that is immaterial. We live on our very own earth and we were given the Bible as our guide on how to live here and what to expect afterwards, and not told how to live elsewhere or how to deal with that. The Bible said everything that must be written was written and is enough for us to believe and achieve salvation. Anything that was not written doesnt mean they dont exist, didnt happen or not important. it just that what was written was enough. And the funny thing is that even with this "cap on the lid" put by God in the Bible, people still find it hard to follow what was written. So why ask for more, or even all? Be content on what was given to us and written to us and you shall find peace.



tanong lang dre, anong creatures to at saan ba natin makikita to sa bible. interesado lang dre.

you prolly are refering to this....Genesis 1:20 --And God said Let the water teem with living creatures(fish and the likes)......

and this.....Gen. 1:24 And God said..Let the land produce living creatures....(animals)

correct me if this is not the verses u are refering with.

no offense tanong lang ulit...wak ka galit ha....

kung talagang Bible based ang faith mo bakit parang duda ka na walang na-create na buhay ang Diyos sa ibang planeta. Kasi bro ilang beses sinabi ng Diyos kung gaano tayo ka-importante sa Kanya at gaano tayo kamahal and that we were created in His image.
Tayo lang bro wala ng iba!

Sorry bro nagpapaliwanag lang!


Gen:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.Now the earth was formless and EMPTY. ( I believed the heavens as well)
Nasa earth lang ang attention ng Diyos bro!


walang pilitan to tol....maski di mo sagutin ok lang....salamat:) :)

edmendoza101
02-01-2008, 12:38 AM
Tama ka pareng egg. And let's keep it this way at least for this thread to become a sharing forum. Suggestions ko lang sa mga tatambay dito para manatiling kalma dito:

1. wag pansinin at patulan ang mga bugok at pilosopo na posts.

2. wag kontrahin and mga paniniwala na ipo-post ng iba. instead mag post na lang ng alternative view o position. bahala na kung i-accept o i-reject ng babasa.walang pilitan ika nga, sharing lang at respeto.

3. wag gawing debate thread ito kundi sharing thread. self explanatory na siguro to. kung di ka agree sa sinabi ng isa, wag mo nang barahin kundi mag offer ka na lang ng sarili mong view. kung agree ka, sabihin mo.

4. i-limit na muna natin (for now) ang discussions sa Bible at Christianity. kasi dito pa lang, marami nang interpretation at views. wag na muna pagusapan ang ibang relihiyon (pasintabi na muna po sa ibang mga kapatid naming Muslim, Hindu atbp.). Tutal ang umpisa ng thread na ito ay tungkol sa end of the world sa Revelations, which is Bible and Christian based.

anymore suggestions?
what you think mga parekoy?










when I posted this thread I can't remember setting up any rules whatsoever.
But I remember I mentioned about SHARING.

responding and explaining your view is simply called SHARING. I also said that what we are sharing here is not being forced to anybody to believed.
Take it or leave it di ba....



sana kung medyo balat sebuyas wag nalang sumali. Sayang naman kung interesado ang iba.


Peace ........

Counter Puncher
02-01-2008, 12:54 AM
tanong lang dre, anong creatures to at saan ba natin makikita to sa bible. interesado lang dre.

you prolly are refering to this....Genesis 1:20 --And God said Let the water teem with living creatures(fish and the likes)......

and this.....Gen. 1:24 And God said..Let the land produce living creatures....(animals)

correct me if this is not the verses u are refering with.

no offense tanong lang ulit...wak ka galit ha....

kung talagang Bible based ang faith mo bakit parang duda ka na walang na-create na buhay ang Diyos sa ibang planeta. Kasi bro ilang beses sinabi ng Diyos kung gaano tayo ka-importante sa Kanya at gaano tayo kamahal and that we were created in His image.
Tayo lang bro wala ng iba!

Sorry bro nagpapaliwanag lang!


Gen:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.Now the earth was formless and EMPTY. ( I believed the heavens as well)
Nasa earth lang ang attention ng Diyos bro!


walang pilitan to tol....maski di mo sagutin ok lang....salamat:) :)

First yung question mo kung saan mababasa iyong other creatures. Babalikan na lang kita kasi nadasnan ko lang yun at di ko pa matandaan. Pero nasa new testament tol at hindi yung mga na-quote mo. At I donot disagree sa mga na-quote mo dahil nakasulat yan.

Yun namang duda ako na walang na-create ang Diyos sa ibang planeta, hindi siguro yun duda kundi una, dahil nga sa nadaanan ko sa new testament na babalikan ko pa. Pangalawa, ang creation account sa Bible ay focused on the Earth dahil nga dito tayo nakatira at tayo ang mga nilalalang na naririto. Kung may binanggit man ukol sa kalangitan ay para ipakita lang sa atin ang kapangyarihan ng Diyos. Hindi ako duda, at yun din ang paniniwala ko na tayo lang ang nilalang ng Diyos para paglingkuran sya. Subalit sinabi rin sa Biblia na hindi lahat ng bagay ay ipinasulat pa ng Diyos kundi ang marapat lang at sapat upang siya ay makilala natin at maligtas. Hindi tayo dapat humigit sa nasusulat di ba? Kung walang namang direct statement sa Bible na walang ibang nilalang (meron ba tol?) kundi tayo, but rather, tayo lang ang ipinasulat na nalalalang (magkaiba to), ang sinasabi ko lang kay Chups ay hindi tuwirang masasabi na walang ibang nilalang outside of this heaven and earth. kasi nga, may ibang hindi ipinasulat sa good book. Pero that was not a statement of faith, but of possibilities, and specifically intended for Chups. mY faith is - i believe na tayo lang na mga tao sa mundo ang nasulat sa banal na aklat na nilalang at pinili upang maglingkod
sa KANYA. Sana ay nasagot ko ang mga tanong mo. Babalaikan kita sa dun sa "ibang nilalang" na verse pero as i've said, walang further explanation ito kung kaya't maari ring tumukoy sa ibang nilalang na naririto din sa mundo.:kiss:

edmendoza101
02-01-2008, 01:09 AM
First yung question mo kung saan mababasa iyong other creatures. Babalikan na lang kita kasi nadasnan ko lang yun at di ko pa matandaan. Pero nasa new testament tol at hindi yung mga na-quote mo. At I donot disagree sa mga na-quote mo dahil nakasulat yan.

Yun namang duda ako na walang na-create ang Diyos sa ibang planeta, hindi siguro yun duda kundi una, dahil nga sa nadaanan ko sa new testament na babalikan ko pa. Pangalawa, ang creation account sa Bible ay focused on the Earth dahil nga dito tayo nakatira at tayo ang mga nilalalang na naririto. Kung may binanggit man ukol sa kalangitan ay para ipakita lang sa atin ang kapangyarihan ng Diyos. Hindi ako duda, at yun din ang paniniwala ko na tayo lang ang nilalang ng Diyos para paglingkuran sya. Subalit sinabi rin sa Biblia na hindi lahat ng bagay ay ipinasulat pa ng Diyos kundi ang marapat lang at sapat upang siya ay makilala natin at maligtas. Hindi tayo dapat humigit sa nasusulat di ba? Kung walang namang direct statement sa Bible na walang ibang nilalang (meron ba tol?) kundi tayo, but rather, tayo lang ang ipinasulat na nalalalang (magkaiba to), ang sinasabi ko lang kay Chups ay hindi tuwirang masasabi na walang ibang nilalang outside of this heaven and earth. kasi nga, may ibang hindi ipinasulat sa good book. Pero that was not a statement of faith, but of possibilities, and specifically intended for Chups. mY faith is - i believe na tayo lang na mga tao sa mundo ang nasulat sa banal na aklat na nilalang at pinili upang maglingkod
sa KANYA. Sana ay nasagot ko ang mga tanong mo. Babalaikan kita sa dun sa "ibang nilalang" na verse pero as i've said, walang further explanation ito kung kaya't maari ring tumukoy sa ibang nilalang na naririto din sa mundo.:kiss:












Thank you pre. :banana:

edmendoza101
02-01-2008, 01:14 AM
one of the things na mahirap pag-usapan ay religion. maraming nag-aaway dito kasi nagkakaiba sila ng mga paniniwala. i remember yung kaklase kong INC, one time nag-discuss kame about jesus christ, belief kasi nila, jesus christ is only a man/prophet and he is not God. we respected our classmate's opinion. what can we do, di sila naniniwala sa holy trinity? he's a nice person, most INC's i know ay mabubuting tao so that really tells us na religion won't make you good, it's the other way around!









naiintindihan ko ibig mong sabihin tol......
sharing lang naman talaga ang purpose neto e.
Alam ko naman na mababait tayo dito kaya
ok lang sana baka maka pick up sa iba.

Counter Puncher
02-01-2008, 01:37 AM
one of the things na mahirap pag-usapan ay religion. maraming nag-aaway dito kasi nagkakaiba sila ng mga paniniwala. i remember yung kaklase kong INC, one time nag-discuss kame about jesus christ, belief kasi nila, jesus christ is only a man/prophet and he is not God. we respected our classmate's opinion. what can we do, di sila naniniwala sa holy trinity? he's a nice person, most INC's i know ay mabubuting tao so that really tells us na religion won't make you good, it's the other way around!

mahirap talagang pagusapan pareng Chito, pero kailangan talaga. kasi nga ang nakasalalay ay kaluluwa at salvation natin. sabi nga ni pareng ed ay sharing lang naman. baka ang mapulot ay kabutihan, eh di maganda di bah? and remember what started this thread...the alarming signs that the END is near! Kung di natin ito pagusapan pa, as in NOw na, kelan pa? sana ay di pa huli para sa marami...kasama na ko dun...:kiss:

also, di naman siguro nakakasama ang relihiyon kung tama ang basihan at doctrines. Kung satanista yan, eh ibang usapan na. hehehe. Siguro di rin naman religion per se that will make you good, but your attitude towards it. Also, religion means reconciliation or way back to GOD. So the main objective is not just to make one good, but to ensure he is reconciled with his Creator.

edmendoza101
02-01-2008, 01:41 AM
Who's to say there isn't life there? Ni hindi pa natin naabot ang ibang planeta sa sarili nating solar system. We don't have the technology. Wala pa ding nakakita sa Diyos puwera lang sa ilan sa mga taong nagsabi at nagsulat sa bibliya and yet we still believe.






Tama ka dre. But I believed when the bible says....We lived by Faith and not by sight.


Forget about the Bible tol...just look around you....to me they are the greatest proof of God's existence.











I'm a Christian, I believe there is a Supreme Being. The creation of life alone is a miracle in itself. But I'm open to the concept of, and do not discount the possibility of life other than ours. We can discuss and even argue, state your mind freely. Basta ba usapang matino at walang personalan, ayos lang yan.




Ganun ba.....No problemo .....

ok......

Tinawag mo sarili mong Christian. Pwede bang malaman kung ano bilang kristiano ang paniwala mo sa Diyos. Not just as supreme being pls. elaborate lang pre.Just wanna know where exactly you stand as far as ur faith.

salamat

JOM'S
02-01-2008, 01:47 AM
ako mga tol dito sa work ko damin ako kasama na ibang faith...

they dont force their faith on me, i dont force mine, pero curios din kami sa mga paniniwala ng bawat isa...

tapos yung 3 major faiths believe in only one God, iba iba lang tawag natin sa kanya...

pati yung father of nations na si abraham=ibrahim

respetuhan lang talaga ang kailangan, para magkasundo ang lahat...

kaso ang tanong ko bilang kristyano obligasyon natin ikalat ang balita kung pano tayo maliligtas, pano mo yun gagawin ng hindi ka napapaway??

ang mga muslim ganoon din may daladala rin silang balita, napininiwalan nilang totoo at nag iisang balita....

pano na tayo magkakasundo??

Counter Puncher
02-01-2008, 01:49 AM
Tama ka dre. But I believed when the bible says....We lived by Faith and not by sight.


Forget about the Bible tol...just look around you....to me they are the greatest proof of God's existence.

Hehehe. But even this is written in the Bible, that the power of GOD is manifested in his magnificent creations! Who can argue? and who can ever make what HE made? Who can stop the rain? the wind? and death?

edmendoza101
02-01-2008, 01:49 AM
mahirap talagang pagusapan pareng Chito, pero kailangan talaga. kasi nga ang nakasalalay ay kaluluwa at salvation natin. sabi nga ni pareng ed ay sharing lang naman. baka ang mapulot ay kabutihan, eh di maganda di bah? and remember what started this thread...the alarming signs that the END is near! Kung di natin ito pagusapan pa, as in NOw na, kelan pa? sana ay di pa huli para sa marami...kasama na ko dun...:kiss:

also, di naman siguro nakakasama ang relihiyon kung tama ang basihan at doctrines. Kung satanista yan, eh ibang usapan na. hehehe. Siguro di rin naman religion per se that will make you good, but your attitude towards it. Also, religion means reconciliation or way back to GOD. So the main objective is not just to make one good, but to ensure he is reconciled with his Creator.



amen to this parekoy...sharing lang:banana:

Counter Puncher
02-01-2008, 01:55 AM
ako mga tol dito sa work ko damin ako kasama na ibang faith...

they dont force their faith on me, i dont force mine, pero curios din kami sa mga paniniwala ng bawat isa...

tapos yung 3 major faiths believe in only one God, iba iba lang tawag natin sa kanya...

pati yung father of nations na si abraham=ibrahim

respetuhan lang talaga ang kailangan, para magkasundo ang lahat...

kaso ang tanong ko bilang kristyano obligasyon natin ikalat ang balita kung pano tayo maliligtas, pano mo yun gagawin ng hindi ka napapaway??

ang mga muslim ganoon din may daladala rin silang balita, napininiwalan nilang totoo at nag iisang balita....

pano na tayo magkakasundo??


Basta i-share mo lang ng walang pilitan o disrespect. Kahit naman si Jesus o yung mga Apostles nagturo lang, pero wala namang pinilit! kasi nga dapat ay sumampalataya at di napilitan lang. MInsan napapa"away" din sila pero di bastos kundi firm lang in order to defend their faith, lalo na kung ang kausap nila ay mga escriba at paraseo.

edmendoza101
02-01-2008, 01:58 AM
ako mga tol dito sa work ko damin ako kasama na ibang faith...

they dont force their faith on me, i dont force mine, pero curios din kami sa mga paniniwala ng bawat isa...

tapos yung 3 major faiths believe in only one God, iba iba lang tawag natin sa kanya...

pati yung father of nations na si abraham=ibrahim

respetuhan lang talaga ang kailangan, para magkasundo ang lahat...

kaso ang tanong ko bilang kristyano obligasyon natin ikalat ang balita kung pano tayo maliligtas, pano mo yun gagawin ng hindi ka napapaway??

ang mga muslim ganoon din may daladala rin silang balita, napininiwalan nilang totoo at nag iisang balita....

pano na tayo magkakasundo??




Pareng Joms oks lang yan basta claims are supported by evidence no problemo yan.
Mababait naman tayo dito e....lol

tol as a true christian we the believers have a responsibility to proclaim the Word.(gently spread the Good News) (PROCLAIMER)
The Holy Spirit will do His job to convict the person who hears it(CONVICTOR)
Jesus will redeem the person who hears the Word and were eventually changed of their conviction. (REDEEMER) Saved.

Important is that we make sure we proclaim it out of love.Simlpy lang tol basta equipt yourself with the Word, plant them gently to somebody's heart and leave it to God. that's it!
Pag medyo me namimilosopo...be sensitive and treat it as an attacked of the enemy tapos ignore nalang.Ok na, you already did your job, wala ka ng atraso sa taas.

Equipt yourself with the Word! (important)

JOM'S
02-02-2008, 01:39 AM
Basta i-share mo lang ng walang pilitan o disrespect. Kahit naman si Jesus o yung mga Apostles nagturo lang, pero wala namang pinilit! kasi nga dapat ay sumampalataya at di napilitan lang. MInsan napapa"away" din sila pero di bastos kundi firm lang in order to defend their faith, lalo na kung ang kausap nila ay mga escriba at paraseo.

Pareng Joms oks lang yan basta claims are supported by evidence no problemo yan.
Mababait naman tayo dito e....lol

tol as a true christian we the believers have a responsibility to proclaim the Word.(gently spread the Good News) (PROCLAIMER)
The Holy Spirit will do His job to convict the person who hears it(CONVICTOR)
Jesus will redeem the person who hears the Word and were eventually changed of their conviction. (REDEEMER) Saved.

Important is that we make sure we proclaim it out of love.Simlpy lang tol basta equipt yourself with the Word, plant them gently to somebody's heart and leave it to God. that's it!
Pag medyo me namimilosopo...be sensitive and treat it as an attacked of the enemy tapos ignore nalang.Ok na, you already did your job, wala ka ng atraso sa taas.

Equipt yourself with the Word! (important)

bro counterpuncher sa tagal ko naman dito wala naman pilosopo akong nakausap at wala rin naman namilit sakin na umanib sa kanila ...

bro edmendoza tama yung advise mo na i should equipt myself with the WORD...

ang pinakamalaki pagkakaiba ng paniniwala natin sa mga muslim. nananiniwala sila na ang redemption ay makukuha nila through their own action, at bibilib ka rin sa kanilang paninidigan at paniniwala sa one true God (Dios Ama) at pagsunod sa kanyang mga utos ... wag na wag mo silang kokotrahin at sabihin mali sila, kundi magkakagulo, pero ang magagawa mo lang ay panindigan yung paniniwala mo na hindi mo "directly" sinasabi na mali sila...

edmendoza101
02-02-2008, 01:04 PM
bro counterpuncher sa tagal ko naman dito wala naman pilosopo akong nakausap at wala rin naman namilit sakin na umanib sa kanila ...

bro edmendoza tama yung advise mo na i should equipt myself with the WORD...

ang pinakamalaki pagkakaiba ng paniniwala natin sa mga muslim. nananiniwala sila na ang redemption ay makukuha nila through their own action, at bibilib ka rin sa kanilang paninidigan at paniniwala sa one true God (Dios Ama) at pagsunod sa kanyang mga utos ... wag na wag mo silang kokotrahin at sabihin mali sila, kundi magkakagulo, pero ang magagawa mo lang ay panindigan yung paniniwala mo na hindi mo "directly" sinasabi na mali sila...




Tol Joms tama ka wag mong kokontrahin ang mga muslim panatiko ang mga yan at sarado ang isip sa kanilang paniwala. alam mo nasa bible (Genesis) mo makikita kung saan nanggaling ang muslim pero di na sinabi dun kung saan nila nakuha yung kanilang pinaniniwalaan ( di ko sinasabing mali sila ha basehan ko lang ay bibliya) Basta magkaroon lang ako ng idea kung saan sila nagmula base sa bibliya enough na para sa akin.
Alam mo tol, yung pamimilit ng iba minsan ay napapamali lamang ng estilo pero alam mo nasa bible din na dapat daw e maging "bold" daw ang isang tunay na kristiyano sa pag spread ng Word dahil gusto ng Diyos na ang lahat ay maililigtas. Kaya palagay ko namimisinterpret silang madalas o kaya e medyo napapa-exaggerate sa kanilang pagmi-minister sa tao.

Tol ang pamimilosopo ng tao e mangyayari sa yo pag ikaw ay "equipt" at nagsimila ka ng mag-minister sa tao. Pag dinala mo na ang salita ng Diyos sa tao expect for persecution, nasa bible din yan!
Salamat sa reply......

THE REAL NINJA
02-02-2008, 09:22 PM
They were only off by less than 2 years, scary.


LONDON, England (Reuters) -- A giant asteroid is heading for Earth and could hit in 2014, U.S. astronomers have warned British space monitors.

But for those fearing Armageddon, don't be alarmed -- the chances of a catastrophic collision are just one in 909,000.

Asteroid "2003 QQ47" will be closely monitored over the next two months. Its potential strike date is March 21, 2014, but astronomers say that any risk of impact is likely to decrease as further data is gathered.

On impact, it could have the effect of 20 million Hiroshima atomic bombs, a spokesman for the British government's Near Earth Object Information Centre told BBC radio.

The Centre issued the warning about the asteroid after the giant rock was first observed in New Mexico by the Lincoln Near Earth Asteroid Research Program.

"The Near Earth Object will be observable from Earth for the next two months and astronomers will continue to track it over this period," said Dr Alan Fitzsimmons, one of the expert team advising the Centre.

Asteroids such as 2003 QQ47 are chunks of rock left over from the formation of the solar system 4.5 billion years ago. Most are kept at a safe distance from the Earth in the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter.

But the gravitational influence of giant planets such as Jupiter can nudge asteroids out of these safe orbits and send them plunging towards Earth.

PrtyBoyDlicious
02-03-2008, 12:39 AM
pare the based of my faith is the Bible for as long as the bible hasn't mention anything about any possibilities of life existing anywhere in the galaxy but earth, I will stick to my belief that earth is the only planet that has life chosen by the Creator to place His most beloved creation.....the humanity.


nakita ko na yang pix na yan emailed by a friend. Meron bang nakitang buhay diyan....just asking pre.

John 10:16
"And I have other sheep which are not of this fold: those also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one flock, one shepherd."

edmendoza101
02-03-2008, 01:40 AM
John 10:16
"And I have other sheep which are not of this fold: those also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one flock, one shepherd."







Thanks PrtyBoyDlicious.......bro Jesus was referring to the gentiles here as His other sheep. Gentiles are the non-Jewish people during those times.And of course it is still in effect for the gentiles (believers) of the new generations.

edmendoza101
02-03-2008, 01:46 AM
They were only off by less than 2 years, scary.













not mention in the bible!:banana:

PrtyBoyDlicious
02-05-2008, 08:17 PM
Ed,

Do you believe that man and dinosaurs co-existed?

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PrtyBoyDlicious
02-05-2008, 09:00 PM
Adam was the first test tube baby? Our race was created by beings from distant space through genetic engineering?

The Sumerians Part 1:
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The Sumerians Part 2:
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The Sumerians Part 3:
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PrtyBoyDlicious
02-05-2008, 09:40 PM
What's your take on this?

In case it's true...Are you ready?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUwKDwETctc&feature=related

NIBIRU 2012 A.D. The End ?


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edmendoza101
02-06-2008, 01:52 AM
Ed,

Do you believe that man and dinosaurs co-existed?

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My faith are solely based in the Bible bro.I could only care less for anything beyond that!

Thanks anyways!

PrtyBoyDlicious
02-06-2008, 06:04 PM
My faith are solely based in the Bible bro.I could only care less for anything beyond that!

Thanks anyways!

Hey Broh, are there any explanations in the bible regarding dinosaurs?

Counter Puncher
02-06-2008, 06:22 PM
Hey Broh, are there any explanations in the bible regarding dinosaurs?

try this link bro...

http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/dinos.shtml

Counter Puncher
02-06-2008, 06:28 PM
Thanks PrtyBoyDlicious.......bro Jesus was referring to the gentiles here as His other sheep. Gentiles are the non-Jewish people during those times.And of course it is still in effect for the gentiles (believers) of the new generations.

pareng ed, question - based on the Bible, what is the sheep, the fold, and the flock referred to in John 10:16 (kindly quote any verse that shows this)

PrtyBoyDlicious
02-06-2008, 07:22 PM
try this link bro...

http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/dinos.shtml



If the bible or prophets were able to describe/witness these creatures this means men co-existed with dinosaurs! Cool!



Behemoth has the following attributes according to Job 40:15-24


It “eats grass like an ox.”
It “moves his tail like a cedar.” (In Hebrew, this literally reads, “he lets hang his tail like a cedar.”)
Its “bones are like beams of bronze,
His ribs like bars of iron.”
“He is the first of the ways of God.”
“He lies under the lotus trees,
In a covert of reeds and marsh.”

Leviathan has the following attributes according to Job chapter 41, Psalm 104:25,26 and Isaiah 27:1. This is only a partial listing—just enough to make the point.


“No one is so fierce that he would dare stir him up.”
“Who can open the doors of his face, with his terrible teeth all around?”
“His rows of scales are his pride, shut up tightly as with a seal; one is so near another that no air can come between them; they are joined one to another, they stick together and cannot be parted.”
“His sneezings flash forth light, and his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning. Out of his mouth go burning lights; sparks of fire shoot out. Smoke goes out of his nostrils, as from a boiling pot and burning rushes. His breath kindles coals, and a flame goes out of his mouth.”
“Though the sword reaches him, it cannot avail; nor does spear, dart, or javelin. He regards iron as straw, and bronze as rotten wood. The arrow cannot make him flee; slingstones become like stubble to him. Darts are regarded as straw; he laughs at the threat of javelins.”
“On earth there is nothing like him, which is made without fear.”
Leviathan “played” in the “great and wide sea” (a paraphrase of Psalm 104 verses 25 and 26—get the exact sense by reading them yourself).
Leviathan is a “reptile [a] that is in the sea.” (Isaiah 27:1)

PrtyBoyDlicious
02-06-2008, 07:31 PM
My faith are solely based in the Bible bro.I could only care less for anything beyond that!

Thanks anyways!

Ed, that was only a trick question. In fact, men still lives with dinosaurs today...crocodiles, alligators are relatives of extinct dinosaurs...yes, even your crispy or original KFCs.....

edmendoza101
02-06-2008, 11:01 PM
pareng ed, question - based on the Bible, what is the sheep, the fold, and the flock referred to in John 10:16 (kindly quote any verse that shows this)



pareng counter: Thanks for that link...I hope it answered PrtybyDelicious querry.

John 10:16 " I have other sheep too, that are not in this sheepfold. I must bring them also. They will listen to my voice, and there will be one flock with one shepherd."

Bro, the sheep refers to the Jewish believers and the other sheep refers to the gentiles- non Jewish believers (you and I). The sheepfold refers to the
Jewish believers of those times.We know that in the OT the favorite burnt offering is sheep as always being refered to as the most gentle and innocent among animals of it's kind.
Jesus will call on the gentiles as well. ( noticed the spread of christianity all over the world after Christ death ) But this doesn't mean all crhistians are saved. The Bible says only ..TRUE Christians...God knows our heart combine them together you got the one FLOCK with one shepherd (Jesus).

Bro. Jesus came to save both the Jews and the Gentiles, this is an insight into His worldwide mission---to die for the sins of the world.People tend to want to restrict God's blessings to their own group, but Jesus refuses to be limited by the fences we build.

John 10:1-10

1*“I tell you the truth, anyone who sneaks over the wall of a sheepfold, rather than going through the gate, must surely be a thief and a robber! 2*But the one who enters through the gate is the shepherd of the sheep. 3*The gatekeeper opens the gate for him, and the sheep recognize his voice and come to him. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4*After he has gathered his own flock, he walks ahead of them, and they follow him because they know his voice. 5*They won’t follow a stranger; they will run from him because they don’t know his voice.”
6 Those who heard Jesus use this illustration didn’t understand what he meant, 7 so he explained it to them: “I tell you the truth, I am the gate for the sheep. 8*All who came before me* were thieves and robbers. But the true sheep did not listen to them. 9*Yes, I am the gate. Those who come in through me will be saved.* They will come and go freely and will find good pastures. 10*The thief’s purpose is to steal and kill and destroy. My purpose is to give them a rich and satisfying life.


Psalm 95:7 *for he is our God.
We are the people he watches over,
the flock under his care.

Psalm 7 O God, why have you rejected us so long?
Why is your anger so intense against the sheep of your own pasture?

Psalm 100:3 *Acknowledge that the Lord is God!
He made us, and we are his.
We are his people, the sheep of his pasture.

Acts 20:28 28*“So guard yourselves and God’s people. Feed and shepherd God’s flock—his church, purchased with his own blood*—over which the Holy Spirit has appointed you as elders.


Jeremiah 23:3 3*But I will gather together the remnant of my flock from the countries where I have driven them. I will bring them back to their own sheepfold, and they will be fruitful and increase in number.


I hope I answered your question....Thanks