View Full Version : Does Vitali Still Have 1 Punch KO Power?
Neuraxis 10-26-2004, 01:03 AM You decided.
4/24/04: http://www.klitschko.com/gallery/index.php?lang=en&task=image&dir=fights/Vitaliy/36_Corrie_Sanders&file=scena0058.jpg
10/9/99: http://www.klitschko.com/gallery/index.php?lang=en&task=image&dir=fights/Vitaliy/26_Ed_Mahon&file=26_Ed_Mahon_062.jpg
ghostbear 10-26-2004, 01:11 AM Thats odd because he weighs more now than he did earlier in his career. He looked more built in the Sanders fight than he did for Lewis or Johnson.
ChrististheAnswer 10-26-2004, 01:13 AM Of course he does, anybody at HW has one punch KO power. He is just more intelligent now and he is fighting better competition, so one punch KOs won't come as frequently. He broke down Sanders methodically which is what I predict will happen with Williams. Vitali is a big puncher but he also tends to arm-punch.He probably would have more one punch KOs if he stepped into his punches more.But like I said he fights intelligently for a man his size and doesn't just throw huge shots all the time.
Neuraxis 10-26-2004, 01:18 AM Thats odd because he weighs more now than he did earlier in his career. He looked more built in the Sanders fight than he did for Lewis or Johnson.
He actually weighed 1 pound heavier against Ed Mahone than he did against Sanders, but it looks more like 10 pounds. For some reason I don't trust those European scales.
dempseyfire 10-26-2004, 09:58 AM He never was a one punch guy but of course any top HW should be able to knock out the likes of Ed Mahone . . . . . .
He never was a one punch guy but of course any top HW should be able to knock out the likes of Ed Mahone . . . . . .
i agree and very few ex thai fighters are one punch merchants, Nige Benn is the only one I vcan think of who actually had real one punch KO pwoer. Ex Thai boxers tend to throw arm punches but hey when you are 6 ft 7 thats till gonna hurt.
He is more of a volume puncher.
jabsRstiff 10-26-2004, 10:27 AM i agree and very few ex thai fighters are one punch merchants, Nige Benn is the only one I vcan think of who actually had real one punch KO pwoer. Ex Thai boxers tend to throw arm punches but hey when you are 6 ft 7 thats till gonna hurt.
He is more of a volume puncher.
Was Khaosai Galaxy a Muay Thai competitor ?
He's one of the best puncers in the history of the lower weight classes.
triggerhappy 10-26-2004, 10:48 AM looks like his arms shrank big time
Sidestep_1 10-26-2004, 10:50 AM Vitalis one-punch KO-power is much overrated. I have seen all of his fights, and in most of his fights his opponent was stopped on his feet. I canīt think of a fight were he floored a guy with a decent chin. He landed a lot of shots flush on the chins of Sanders, Lewis, Donald, Bean, Byrd, Sullivan, Puritty, Hoffmann, Ryan. None of them went down (Donald was exhausted before he chose to go down, but he took the bombs in the earlier rounds well).
Vitali can hurt anybody of course, but he isnīt explosive enough to floor the top fighters.
Was Khaosai Galaxy a Muay Thai competitor ?
He's one of the best puncers in the history of the lower weight classes.
DUNNO MATE, to be honest, my next door neighbour is ex Southern area Super middle champ (m.thai) and when training we have discussed this often. He seems to think it comes from the necessity of kicking vs the side on style of boxing that causes the loss on power. Makes sense I suppose, boxing is a lot more square on . What you lose in punch power you gain in being able to stike with your legs quicker. Just a theory of course but seems pretty valid. I dont follow too much kick boxing I must admit, the odd bit here and there but not in any detail.
abdiel2k3 10-26-2004, 11:03 AM ofcourse the opposition he is fighting now has alot to do with it
look at frietas
hes thought of as a devestating puncher
but couldnt get the KOS in his biggest fights
Casamayor and Corrales
but its also definatly the fact that hes fighting smarter now
hes trying to brake his opposition down
bigtex 10-26-2004, 11:31 AM no doubt big klith hits hard, but you would think some of those big rights should have knocked lewis or sanders cold.
jack_the_rippuh 10-26-2004, 11:36 AM If his big sorry ass wants some fans he better start knocking opponents out. He's a freakin' robot, I can't stand him..
Well yes he is capable, but his not one punch knock machine, he needs too land a few, this being said Sanders head is ****ing hard.
jabsRstiff 10-26-2004, 11:46 AM Well yes he is capable, but his not one punch knock machine, he needs too land a few, this being said Sanders head is ****ing hard.
Tell that to Nate Tubbs & Hasim Rahman.
realheavyhands 10-26-2004, 01:39 PM alot of punching power comes from the legs he dont have no legs at all
Neuraxis 10-26-2004, 02:02 PM I like the way all of the people who go on saying his power sucks didn't even look at the pictures.
Neuraxis 10-26-2004, 02:04 PM He never was a one punch guy but of course any top HW should be able to knock out the likes of Ed Mahone . . . . . .
Ok you don't like Ed Mahone. How about Herbie Hide? He KO'd him 4 rounds before Bowe could.
jabsRstiff 10-26-2004, 02:05 PM I like the way all of the people who go on saying his power sucks didn't even look at the pictures.
What are we supposed to be seeing in those pictures ?
Neuraxis 10-26-2004, 02:06 PM What are we supposed to be seeing in those pictures ?
How much smaller he looks now compared to back then.
ChrististheAnswer 10-26-2004, 02:09 PM How much smaller he looks now compared to back then.
He probably just wants to improve his conditioning. He doesn't want to spend all his energy like his bro does and the man is still huge, 250 for his last fight I believe. I think he is just in better shape now becasue he is fighting for world championships and fighting stiffer ccompetition.
jabsRstiff 10-26-2004, 02:12 PM He's a better fighter now than he was then. His weight wouldn't be a factor.
He'd KO those same guys even easier at this stage in his career.
Neuraxis 10-26-2004, 02:14 PM He probably just wants to improve his conditioning. He doesn't want to spend all his energy like his bro does and the man is still huge, 250 for his last fight I believe. I think he is just in better shape now becasue he is fighting for world championships and fighting stiffer ccompetition.
Yeah that is a good point.
ChrististheAnswer 10-26-2004, 02:17 PM He's a better fighter now than he was then. His weight wouldn't be a factor.
He'd KO those same guys even easier at this stage in his career.
I think its safe to say that Vitali is a smarter fighter now than he was. He has the same tools has he did back then but he is employing them in a much more efficient way.
While I beleive that Byrd can beat Wlad now because of Wlads issues, I have a hard time beliveing he can beat Vitali. Yes I said it, I have my doubts about Byrd beating Vitali.
jabsRstiff 10-26-2004, 02:20 PM "I think its safe to say that Vitali is a smarter fighter now than he was. He has the same tools has he did back then but he is employing them in a much more efficient way. "
....making him a far better fighter.
abdiel2k3 10-26-2004, 02:22 PM I think its safe to say that Vitali is a smarter fighter now than he was. He has the same tools has he did back then but he is employing them in a much more efficient way.
While I beleive that Byrd can beat Wlad now because of Wlads issues, I have a hard time beliveing he can beat Vitali. Yes I said it, I have my doubts about Byrd beating Vitali.
what ho? "not ho as in sluts but like they use to say in old times"
do my eyes decieve me
did CITA just admit that Vit would beat Byrd
omg its the end of the world
ChrististheAnswer 10-26-2004, 02:36 PM what ho? "not ho as in sluts but like they use to say in old times"
do my eyes decieve me
did CITA just admit that Vit would beat Byrd
omg its the end of the world
I'm a Byrd fan, but I'm realistic.
realheavyhands 10-26-2004, 03:02 PM arms have nothing to do with power compound execises do
jabsRstiff 10-26-2004, 03:06 PM arms have nothing to do with power compound execises do
No they don't.
Tommy Hearns did compound exercisies ? Trinidad ? Jackson ? Bob Foster ? Alexis Arguello ?
Who's feeding you this horse**** ?
You say you're in Philly....you aren't going to any real gyms there.
If you are....you got some new school chump training you.
lisen his fist were so damaged he couldent get his socks off,
. 33 off 34 wins by knockout.says it all.
He probably just wants to improve his conditioning. He doesn't want to spend all his energy like his bro does and the man is still huge, 250 for his last fight I believe. I think he is just in better shape now becasue he is fighting for world championships and fighting stiffer ccompetition.
245 is his average but i get the point
Memorex 10-26-2004, 06:16 PM yea 245 and 250 is good weight 4 vitali and he would still have power. he has huge knuckles and i think thats where u get knockouts big hands
realheavyhands 10-26-2004, 11:29 PM No they don't.
Tommy Hearns did compound exercisies ? Trinidad ? Jackson ? Bob Foster ? Alexis Arguello ?
Who's feeding you this horse**** ?
You say you're in Philly....you aren't going to any real gyms there.
If you are....you got some new school chump training you.
you a damn fool young buck and if you old you a bigger fool..
who the biggest punchers right now... tyson, tsko zu, tua, ibeauchi was one,kermit cintron, foreman lifted marciano lifted
they all bench a hell of alot of weight for they size
even lil ass zu bench 260 trinindad could punch even harder technique come fist but after thats perfected it compound exercises,, so dont come at me runnin ya mouth .. hearns had no arms but you see his back and shoulders ...where you from tom
MetalVomit 10-26-2004, 11:35 PM You decided.
4/24/04: http://www.klitschko.com/gallery/index.php?lang=en&task=image&dir=fights/Vitaliy/36_Corrie_Sanders&file=scena0058.jpg
10/9/99: http://www.klitschko.com/gallery/index.php?lang=en&task=image&dir=fights/Vitaliy/26_Ed_Mahon&file=26_Ed_Mahon_062.jpg
check out Sanders' farmer tan. :D
Neuraxis 10-27-2004, 01:44 AM check out Sanders' farmer tan. :D
I don't know which is cooler, that or his mustache.
http://www.klitschko.com/duels/duel_w_030308/ukr/u_pix_duel/Sanders_016.jpg
thats Magnum (tom selleck) isnt it? :D
jabsRstiff 10-27-2004, 08:15 AM Look at Sanders in that picture...
He's built like a three year old, spoiled brat, who's mommy lets him eat every treat he desires.
Sanders shoulda trained for his fight with Vitali....he'd have won.
i agree Jabs, thats why I think williams can upset vitali.
dempseyfire 10-27-2004, 11:48 AM Ok you don't like Ed Mahone. How about Herbie Hide? He KO'd him 4 rounds before Bowe could.
Ha, it has nothing to do with me 'liking' Ed Mahone-the guy is a certified tomato can!! He got KO'd by Terrene Lewis, who has the mobility of an elephant.
Herbie Hide?? Another certified glass chin. KO'd by Bowe and a stepover in Chinganu. What did Hide ever do except beat Michael Bentt? And so what if it took Bowe longer to beat him? It took Vitali 10 rounds to beat Obed Sullivan, who was never even knocked down. Yet Sullivan was TKO'd by Michael Grant, Oquendo, and KTFO by David Tua in one round.
Vitali has good power, but he's nowhere near one of the hardest punchers. His brother hits harder then he does.
And another thing-he's not 'bigger' against Mahone-he's just more cut. A big reason is that Klitschko was 28 when he fought Eddie and is now 33.
Neuraxis 10-27-2004, 01:37 PM thats Magnum (tom selleck) isnt it? :D
No that's Corrie Sanders.
Neuraxis 10-27-2004, 01:38 PM Look at Sanders in that picture...
He's built like a three year old, spoiled brat, who's mommy lets him eat every treat he desires.
Sanders shoulda trained for his fight with Vitali....he'd have won.
He'd also have a good chance of beating every heavyweight out there now if he ever actually trained and came into a fight in a good shape.
Neuraxis 10-27-2004, 01:44 PM Ha, it has nothing to do with me 'liking' Ed Mahone-the guy is a certified tomato can!! He got KO'd by Terrene Lewis, who has the mobility of an elephant.
Herbie Hide?? Another certified glass chin. KO'd by Bowe and a stepover in Chinganu. What did Hide ever do except beat Michael Bentt? And so what if it took Bowe longer to beat him? It took Vitali 10 rounds to beat Obed Sullivan, who was never even knocked down. Yet Sullivan was TKO'd by Michael Grant, Oquendo, and KTFO by David Tua in one round.
Vitali has good power, but he's nowhere near one of the hardest punchers. His brother hits harder then he does.
And another thing-he's not 'bigger' against Mahone-he's just more cut. A big reason is that Klitschko was 28 when he fought Eddie and is now 33.
Actually Sullivan's corner gave up after the 9th round, and he failed to come out to fight for the 10th. Have you even seen the fight? Grant TKO him in 9, Oquendo in 11, and Tua has great power, but I could mention some Klitschko opponenets who they KO'd before Tua could. Grant was also decent before his Lewis fight. Apparently you forgot that he TKO'd Golota.
The point you are missing is that Vitali used to be huge, and he used to hit harder than Wlad. Like CITA said, he isn't as bulky now, so he has more mobility in the ring. How is he not bigger against Mahone than he was against Sanders? How could you not see the huge difference?
dempseyfire 10-27-2004, 03:07 PM Umm yeah I said he didn't knock Sullivan down, and he didn't-he failed to come out for the 10th.
Klit weighed 246 for the Mahone fight-didn't he weigh around the exact same for Sanders?? How is he so much smaller if he weighs the same!!!!!!
jabsRstiff 10-27-2004, 03:09 PM Umm yeah I said he didn't knock Sullivan down, and he didn't-he failed to come out for the 10th.
Klit weighed 246 for the Mahone fight-didn't he weigh around the exact same for Sanders?? How is he so much smaller if he weighs the same!!!!!!
because he did get smaller, but has all of these losers hanging on his dick.
dbacksdude1z 10-27-2004, 04:14 PM vitali & wlad need to fight
Neuraxis 10-27-2004, 04:28 PM Umm yeah I said he didn't knock Sullivan down, and he didn't-he failed to come out for the 10th.
Klit weighed 246 for the Mahone fight-didn't he weigh around the exact same for Sanders?? How is he so much smaller if he weighs the same!!!!!!
Look at the pictures, and tell me he looks the same size. I would imagine that the German scales are wrong. He weighed 245 for Sanders.
Neuraxis 10-27-2004, 04:30 PM because he did get smaller, but has all of these losers hanging on his dick.
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