Ok I remember Penn quoting "Sean Sherk is Dead" Then Sherk stomps his way to the octagon like a raged midget to face off with Penn, Penn leaves puts his tail between his legs and comes back and says "Its gonna be a good fight, ok". I had penn down for my best p4p fighter in the world with GSP, but for some odd reason I want sherk to win, steriod use or not the guy was great inspiration and great represenative of the sport...scratch out the steriod use:p Penn is too but further down the line he will become lazy again.

PS: I also lost like 20 bucks betting on joe daddy to win, penn ****ed that up for me.

It wasn't Penn running with his tail between his legs. That was just BJ Penn's mind games through and through, act crazy by saying that you wanna kill Sherk which in turn gets the roid rage going in Sherk so that he is sufficiently riled up for a confrontation, and then when it looks like it is gonna boil over BJ just shake the guys hand politely and respectfully all the while wearing the belt that Sherk still believes belongs to him just to rub it in his face and not give Sherk the satisfaction of the confrontation he was so eager to have. Classic BJ Penn.

Sherk ****ing sucks.

Penn will destroy that little roid rage midget.

It wasn't Penn running with his tail between his legs. That was just BJ Penn's mind games through and through, act crazy by saying that you wanna kill Sherk which in turn gets the roid rage going in Sherk so that he is sufficiently riled up for a confrontation, and then when it looks like it is gonna boil over BJ just shake the guys hand politely and respectfully all the while wearing the belt that Sherk still believes belongs to him just to rub it in his face and not give Sherk the satisfaction of the confrontation he was so eager to have. Classic BJ Penn.

Well said!

b.j is going to beat the **** out of sean sherk

So can someone explain to me once and for all why Sherk lost his belt? If the man was found innocent of all the steroid charges then I do not see a reason for Zuffa to take away his title like they did.

Was he guilty or not?

He was guilty of steroid use, but his defence was that he took a lie detector test to prove that he did not take them knowingly in that he believed that it was through an over the counter supplement that he is known for taking during training (just look at the all access build up to his fight against Franca where he took over 20 different "vitamin" pills during training). Whether he knowingly or unknowingly new about the roids in his system, the fact is that he tested positive and the right thing to do was to strip him of the belt. They did it to Sylvia after the McGee fight so they should do the same here. Plus Sherk, much like Sylvia will get his shot at the belt as soon as his suspension is up so in the end he isn't losing much other than respect from fans who don't appreciate athletes using drugs to get a step ahead.

He was guilty of steroid use, but his defence was that he took a lie detector test to prove that he did not take them knowingly in that he believed that it was through an over the counter supplement that he is known for taking during training (just look at the all access build up to his fight against Franca where he took over 20 different "vitamin" pills during training). Whether he knowingly or unknowingly new about the roids in his system, the fact is that he tested positive and the right thing to do was to strip him of the belt. They did it to Sylvia after the McGee fight so they should do the same here. Plus Sherk, much like Sylvia will get his shot at the belt as soon as his suspension is up so in the end he isn't losing much other than respect from fans who don't appreciate athletes using drugs to get a step ahead.

Thank you Jakkups for settin me straight!

It wasn't Penn running with his tail between his legs. That was just BJ Penn's mind games through and through, act crazy by saying that you wanna kill Sherk which in turn gets the roid rage going in Sherk so that he is sufficiently riled up for a confrontation, and then when it looks like it is gonna boil over BJ just shake the guys hand politely and respectfully all the while wearing the belt that Sherk still believes belongs to him just to rub it in his face and not give Sherk the satisfaction of the confrontation he was so eager to have. Classic BJ Penn.

You talking like u have it all figured out and like u know penn with your "classic bj penn" line. you say it like he did it all the time haha.

You talking like u have it all figured out and like u know penn with your "classic bj penn" line. you say it like he did it all the time haha.

No I don't, that's just your intepretation of what was written nothing more. And it's not about knowing BJ personally, its about seeing this before with other opponents and realising that BJ is at it again. BJ has done this on many occasions. The guy has talked trash about opponents in the past and pulled crazy stunts to get a rise out of a guy while at the same time showing a sense of decorum which often gets to his adversaries because of his unpredictability. Just look at the lead up to the Renzo fight or the Rodrigo fight, even the first fight with Hughes and the second with Pulver. Penn loves getting up opponents noses, especially when he knows it works.

No I don't, that's just your intepretation of what was written nothing more. And it's not about knowing BJ personally, its about seeing this before with other opponents and realising that BJ is at it again. BJ has done this on many occasions. The guy has talked trash about opponents in the past and pulled crazy stunts to get a rise out of a guy while at the same time showing a sense of decorum which often gets to his adversaries because of his unpredictability. Just look at the lead up to the Renzo fight or the Rodrigo fight, even the first fight with Hughes and the second with Pulver. Penn loves getting up opponents noses, especially when he knows it works.

Penn is horrible at trash talk if ya ask me, sometimes its like he doesnt know what the hell he is saying. My guess is that he just said that to hype up the fight that everyone wants to see. As soon as Sherk got there and Penn pussied out was not mind games lol, accept the truth and admit that Penn didnt want it to go any further from when Sherk was pissed and wanted a lil face off. If he wanted to play mind games he wouldve kept talking trash, well trying anyways. I like Penn, it's just I lost money and if ya knew me I always go for the underdog. Plus When I see him holding the UFC belt I still Think it belongs to Sherk who lost it the wrong way.

Ok I remember Penn quoting "Sean Sherk is Dead" Then Sherk stomps his way to the octagon like a raged midget to face off with Penn, Penn leaves puts his tail between his legs and comes back and says "Its gonna be a good fight, ok". I had penn down for my best p4p fighter in the world with GSP, but for some odd reason I want sherk to win, steriod use or not the guy was great inspiration and great represenative of the sport...scratch out the steriod use:p Penn is too but further down the line he will become lazy again.
PS: I also lost like 20 bucks betting on joe daddy to win, penn ****ed that up for me.

I think he will be in good shape for the Sherk fight, but to maintain it over a long period is a different matter.

I agree that he will get lazy somewhere down the line.

i donno who 2 go for in this fight, Bj is ****y as hell, and Sherk is on roids,
i think sherk will win though if BJ can't knock him out on the feet, sherk will take him down an lay on him for 5 rounds like he did 2 Franca.
and i think Sherk is Skilled enough 2 avoid the subs that BJ throws at him.

i donno who 2 go for in this fight, Bj is ****y as hell, and Sherk is on roids,
i think sherk will win though if BJ can't knock him out on the feet, sherk will take him down an lay on him for 5 rounds like he did 2 Franca.
and i think Sherk is Skilled enough 2 avoid the subs that BJ throws at him.

BJ has very dangerous hands and a top takedown defence, and that may be what wins the fight for him.

It wont be easy, BJ needs to stop him in the first 3 rounds. Because if he doesnt Sherk wont gas and will keep on coming for the full 5 rounds.

BJ Penn said it to hype up the fight. I wouldn't be suprised if Dana told him to say it.

That's the bottom line....it's not much different then what boxers do today to hype a fight.

Get real.

Sherk won't take Penn down at will like he did Franca. GSP couldn't take BJ down until he started to gas and he is a better wrestler than Sherk IMO.

Randy Couture has stated that BJ is one of the hardest guys to take down that he has trained with.

This fight depends on whether or not BJ is in shape. An in shape BJ wins this one comfortably IMO.

I think it's a close bout...and a bout that i am 100% going to watch.

Sherk is another Stevenson except he is tighter. He has better physical tools, he's smarter, he has more skills, tighter skills etc. He wont get hit with the type of shots that Stevenson did.

I think it's going to be a cracker of a fight, IMO.

If Sherk can survive past three rounds he will beat BJ Penn, IMO.

[QUOTE=JoeyBB;3070244]Sherk is another Stevenson except he is tighter. He has better physical tools, he's smarter, he has more skills, tighter skills etc. He wont get hit with the type of shots that Stevenson did.[QUOTE]

This sounds like Sherk is the same as Stevenson...only different lol which makes no sense at all, please think before you type. I forgot to mention when Penn mentioned his abs after the fight and saying he is in great shape lol...really nothing to brag about cause you cant really see them. If he is gonna brag about being in shape he should try to go 5 hard rounds without getting tired like Sherk has, now that is in shape.

[QUOTE=JoeyBB;3070244]Sherk is another Stevenson except he is tighter. He has better physical tools, he's smarter, he has more skills, tighter skills etc. He wont get hit with the type of shots that Stevenson did.[QUOTE]

This sounds like Sherk is the same as Stevenson...only different lol which makes no sense at all, please think before you type. I forgot to mention when Penn mentioned his abs after the fight and saying he is in great shape lol...really nothing to brag about cause you cant really see them. If he is gonna brag about being in shape he should try to go 5 hard rounds without getting tired like Sherk has, now that is in shape.

You ****ing stupid?

Sherk is like Stevenson except better and more athletic in every single facet of the game.

Get it now???

[QUOTE=2swell k-wells;3070397][QUOTE=JoeyBB;3070244]Sherk is another Stevenson except he is tighter. He has better physical tools, he's smarter, he has more skills, tighter skills etc. He wont get hit with the type of shots that Stevenson did.

You ****ing stupid?

Sherk is like Stevenson except better and more athletic in every single facet of the game.

Get it now???

No Im not stupid...dont get too offended because I point out that u dont make sense. Sherk and Stevenson aint comparable, not even close. You said he is the same only that he is tighter, better physical tools, smarter, more skill, tighter skill. So he is the same but only different in 5 areas:s dumb ****.:bryce:

He's the same type of relentless fighter. man you are stupid. your MMA predictions suck also :)

My predictions? I usually go for the underdog to win, and if you just tuned in to mma u should go back to 2007 fights which were full of upsets u Noob.

Sherk couldn't put away Florian, couldn't put away Franca when he was all roided out and won't put away Penn. Penn's level of fighting is a notch above Franca and Florian combined. The guy went the distance with GSP and wound up losing a split whereas Sherk got manhandled and beat at his own game by GSP. Sherk's wrestling isn't good enough to hold BJ down for 5 rounds especially when BJ's ground work is the best in the division and possesses a rubber guard so active and so flexible that it's impossible for any guy to prepare for. Sherk is one dimensional and comes in with the same plan over and over, takedown and try to lay there for the duration of the bout. Penn preparing for that isn't going to be hard for the man. The guy has been in there with tougher guys, more skilled guys, more athletic guys, stronger guys and more dynamic fighters than Sherk. Sherk will have to be at his very best in all aspects of his skill set whereas Penn who is by far the more complete fighter out of the two will just have to show the same focus, determination and dedication that he has displayed in his last two outings.

Oh and Penn pussied out?! Please mate, a guy who moved up in weight to take on Hughes and thoroughly dominating him in the process, and then moving up to fight Renzo & Rodrigo at Middleweight and then moving up to Light Heavyweight to take a fight with Machida really shows that Penn is a ***** and doesn't want any of Sherk now doesn't it :rolleyes:. Penn knew what he was doing, he threw out the bait and Sherk bit on it.

Sherk couldn't put away Florian, couldn't put away Franca when he was all roided out and won't put away Penn. Penn's level of fighting is a notch above Franca and Florian combined. The guy went the distance with GSP and wound up losing a split whereas Sherk got manhandled and beat at his own game by GSP. Sherk's wrestling isn't good enough to hold BJ down for 5 rounds especially when BJ's ground work is the best in the division and possesses a rubber guard so active and so flexible that it's impossible for any guy to prepare for. Sherk is one dimensional and comes in with the same plan over and over, takedown and try to lay there for the duration of the bout. Penn preparing for that isn't going to be hard for the man. The guy has been in there with tougher guys, more skilled guys, more athletic guys, stronger guys and more dynamic fighters than Sherk. Sherk will have to be at his very best in all aspects of his skill set whereas Penn who is by far the more complete fighter out of the two will just have to show the same focus, determination and dedication that he has displayed in his last two outings.

Oh and Penn pussied out?! Please mate, a guy who moved up in weight to take on Hughes and thoroughly dominating him in the process, and then moving up to fight Renzo & Rodrigo at Middleweight and then moving up to Light Heavyweight to take a fight with Machida really shows that Penn is a ***** and doesn't want any of Sherk now doesn't it :rolleyes:. Penn knew what he was doing, he threw out the bait and Sherk bit on it.

.............:no:

[QUOTE=2swell k-wells;3070397][QUOTE=JoeyBB;3070244]Sherk is another Stevenson except he is tighter. He has better physical tools, he's smarter, he has more skills, tighter skills etc. He wont get hit with the type of shots that Stevenson did.

You ****ing stupid?

Sherk is like Stevenson except better and more athletic in every single facet of the game.

Get it now???
I disagree, I think Joe's submission game is MUCH better than Sherk. But Sherk has it over him in pretty much every other area.

Sherk's performance against Hermes was spectacular! He was fighting like a possessed demon! But how much of that was fueled from the steroids?

Do you guys think he will be that big ball of energy aginst BJ this time around free of the seroids?

I was watching Sherk's fights against GSP and Hughes and he looked like crap!

GSP already tapped Sherks ass at his own game, you think Penn can't do that? Penn will tap that ass

Sherk's performance against Hermes was spectacular! He was fighting like a possessed demon! But how much of that was fueled from the steroids?

Do you guys think he will be that big ball of energy aginst BJ this time around free of the seroids?

I was watching Sherk's fights against GSP and Hughes and he looked like crap!

i wouldnt say sherks performance against hermes was spectacular. but thats just my opinion. though, sherk basically ran him down and won basically because he is much stronger and yes, could have possibly been fueled up on roids. he basically took hermes down and laid on top. had that fight been more standup, hermes would have knocked his ass out with a right hand. being that he was found guilty of steroid use, i dont believe its fair for him to get an immediate title shot. he should have to prove himself off the roids.
as for the penn/sherk fight, penn comes in good shape, he should win, and hopefully by knockout

i wouldnt say sherks performance against hermes was spectacular. but thats just my opinion. though, sherk basically ran him down and won basically because he is much stronger and yes, could have possibly been fueled up on roids. he basically took hermes down and laid on top. had that fight been more standup, hermes would have knocked his ass out with a right hand. being that he was found guilty of steroid use, i dont believe its fair for him to get an immediate title shot. he should have to prove himself off the roids.
as for the penn/sherk fight, penn comes in good shape, he should win, and hopefully by knockout

good point!

Sherk's performance against Hermes was spectacular! He was fighting like a possessed demon! But how much of that was fueled from the steroids?

Do you guys think he will be that big ball of energy aginst BJ this time around free of the seroids?

I was watching Sherk's fights against GSP and Hughes and he looked like crap!
Everyone keeps talking about Sherk being roided up for the Franca fight but forget that Hermes pissed hot as well and he flat out admitted it.

I agree with Smokin & Vinnie7731, I put an in shape and focused Penn at the same if not higher level than GSP. Penn will win this fight IMO.

BJ will kill Sean Sherk

Sean Sherk will kill BJ

From MMAWEEKLY.com

Ultimate Fighting Championship lightweight titleholder B.J. Penn and former champion Sean Sherk won't square off until May, but the war of words between the two has been heating up for months.

Sherk feels he's still the champion and after comments made by Penn in his post-fight interview following his impressive win over Joe Stevenson at UFC 80, Sherk says, "Now it's personal."

In his UFC 80 in-Octagon interview with Joe Rogan, Penn commented, "Sean Sherk, you're dead."

Needless to say the comments didn't set well with Sherk who immediately left his commentary position and entered the Octagon.

"I thought it was a pretty classless thing to do, but what do you do? I guess that's just who B.J. is, so I think it will add more to our fight when we fight later on this year," Sherk told MMAWeekly.

Sherk admitted Penn's statements got to him.

"I was fired up for sure. I mean, I would rather fight any day of the week than sit on the outside and watch, so it was hard enough to watch, and then to be threatened afterward. It wasn't an easy thing to deal with. I was pretty fired up," said the 34-year-old former champion.

Sherk plans to use Penn’s threat as motivation to prepare for their eventual showdown saying, "It definitely plays a big factor in the motivation because I train hard the way it is and I've never really fought someone that I had a personal issue with. Now I've got a personal issue with someone.

“He's attacking me personally. He's saying stuff about me that isn’t true. Yeah, it motivates me to train harder. I mean, I can't lose a fight to someone who is talking smack about me. That's just something I can't do, so I'm going to train my ass off and make sure I win this fight."

Although Penn is the current UFC lightweight champ, Sherk feels the belt still belongs to him. Stripped of the title due to a positive test for Nandrolone, a result Sherk disputes, he's eager for the opportunity to get the belt back.

"I still feel like the title still belongs to me. I think if you want to be the champ you've got to beat the champ.

“It's exciting to get back in there. It's been a long layoff. There's been a lot of stuff that has happened over the last few months. It'll be good to get everything behind me, just get my career back on track and get what I feel is rightfully mine."

While sitting cage-side commentating the bout between Penn and Stevenson in Newcastle-Upon-Tyne, England, Sherk was scouting his future opponent for strengths and weaknesses he may be able to expose when the two face off.

He said, "I see some things in the boxing area that maybe I can exploit. I see some things on the ground that I could exploit. You just train to the best of your potential. You surround yourself with the best trainers and training partners that you can and you prepare yourself for whatever can happen when you're in the cage fighting because anything can happen and the game plan could change within the blink of an eye."

Sherk continued, "As far as a lightweight goes, I don't think anyone is going to give him the problems that I'm going to give him."

Sherk and Penn were top-ranked welterweights that never got to fight in that division. When Penn obtained the vacant UFC lightweight title, stripped from Sherk’s waist, the bout became set in stone.

"That's the fight I've wanted for a long time,” stated Sherk. “I'm finally getting it. It's been a long time coming and I can't wait to get it done."

Sherk is a pixie. (who went bad and took pixie steroids)

Nice read Bro, Sherk wont lose. I've never seen him fight a personal fight yet, should be good. This will be like GSP vs Serra with the personal issues, War Sherk and GSP. Penn is dead:D

Penn is one of the most talented MMA fighters ever. And now he has the right mindset. All Penn needs to do is get Sherk on his back...wrestlers suck on their backs.