It's posts/threads that mention him in the same breath as Ali... and talk of Tyson's handspeed like it was comparable to Ali...

How about Lennox Lewis vs Ali... that's a more realistic matchup... Lennox would stand a far better chance to defeat Ali then Tyson ever could... I admit Tyson was exciting and he was a great heavyweight but he wasn't even the second best of his time... holyfield and lewis were way better... Tyson's reign only lasted 2 years... if a fighter's reign only lasted 2 years to begin with then you weren't that great b/c as soon as somebody exposed you... you were done... and that's not a mark of a true champion... Ali was a champion in like 3 different generations...

you dont know much about boxing how old are you

i do not think tyson was over rated but i think that he is over rated now. i do think tyson would stand a chance against ali buecause if ali tried to let tyson wear himself out like the foreman fight i think ali would get KO. tyson was/is a very powerful puncher like everyone knows he is and he deserves to be with the greats because he is one of them.

tyson in his prime 1986-1990 could beat any heavyweight in the history of the sport, that is how good he was at his best, granite chin, lightning fast hands, and more powerful than any fighter in history, look at his highlight tapes

that's what they were-highlight tapes. People need to watch his whole fights against top opponents-many times he looked far from invincible (Tucker, Bruno, Smith, Tillis, Ruddock, the beginning of the Thomas fight etc.) An excellent fighter in his prime but far from the best and def. could not beat any HW in history.

It's posts/threads that mention him in the same breath as Ali... and talk of Tyson's handspeed like it was comparable to Ali...

How about Lennox Lewis vs Ali... that's a more realistic matchup... Lennox would stand a far better chance to defeat Ali then Tyson ever could... I admit Tyson was exciting and he was a great heavyweight but he wasn't even the second best of his time... holyfield and lewis were way better... Tyson's reign only lasted 2 years... if a fighter's reign only lasted 2 years to begin with then you weren't that great b/c as soon as somebody exposed you... you were done... and that's not a mark of a true champion... Ali was a champion in like 3 different generations...

a famous quotation from henrik ibsen goes:

if you take the life lie from someone, youve killed a person..

It's posts/threads that mention him in the same breath as Ali... and talk of Tyson's handspeed like it was comparable to Ali...

How about Lennox Lewis vs Ali... that's a more realistic matchup... Lennox would stand a far better chance to defeat Ali then Tyson ever could....

lennox lewis would not have beaten Muhammad Ali

Tyson was the 2nd best after Ali. But only the Ali who fought before going to jail- or what ever the hell he did.Ali who fought against Fraizer would get beat by Tyson one way or another.

Muhammad Ali is so overrated it's ridiculous. Yes he was the greatest of his time and probably accomplished more than any hw in history but to make it like he is unbeatable against any hw of any era is just stupid. I think Lennox Lewis would soundly beat Ali and I'd give Tyson a pretty good shot too. Larry Holmes would've given Ali trouble ANY time they fought.

First of all, i don't think Ali is the greatest, one of the all time greats for sure, but Lennox Lewis beat Ali. NO ****ING WAY! NO ****ING WAY! NO ****ING WAY! And not iron mike either, Ali had more chin and heart then both those two put together

First of all, i don't think Ali is the greatest, one of the all time greats for sure, but Lennox Lewis beat Ali. NO ****ING WAY! NO ****ING WAY! NO ****ING WAY! And not iron mike either, Ali had more chin and heart then both those two put together
Who do you think would've beaten Ali if not Lewis or Tyson?

It's posts/threads that mention him in the same breath as Ali... and talk of Tyson's handspeed like it was comparable to Ali...

How about Lennox Lewis vs Ali... that's a more realistic matchup... Lennox would stand a far better chance to defeat Ali then Tyson ever could... I admit Tyson was exciting and he was a great heavyweight but he wasn't even the second best of his time... holyfield and lewis were way better... Tyson's reign only lasted 2 years... if a fighter's reign only lasted 2 years to begin with then you weren't that great b/c as soon as somebody exposed you... you were done... and that's not a mark of a true champion... Ali was a champion in like 3 different generations...

first off u talk like ali was unbeatable...the guy was a heavyweight with no power...tyson stands a big chance at beating him just like frazier did...and lennox lewis WOULD beat ali

First of all, i don't think Ali is the greatest, one of the all time greats for sure, but Lennox Lewis beat Ali. NO ****ING WAY! NO ****ING WAY! NO ****ING WAY! And not iron mike either, Ali had more chin and heart then both those two put together

heart dosent mean anything when ur getting beat up over 12 rounds like lennox would do him

Who do you think would've beaten Ali if not Lewis or Tyson?

Joe Louis ( the best boxer - puncher ever )
also Dempsey would give Ali an unholy beating

1-tyson was great in his prime and anyone who said they wouldn have loved to see prime ali vs prime tyson is a liar

2-ali would have owned L.Lewis..then made him a *****..before ko'ing him all in about 6 rounds..i mean forman would have eaten Lewis alive and spit him out

3-our time tyson:is kinda overrated but his power till this day is top 3..so u cant talk bad about him all the way

Who do you think would've beaten Ali if not Lewis or Tyson?

Joe Louis ( the best boxer - puncher ever )
also Dempsey would give Ali an unholy beating


im only 22, but from what Ive seen Joe Louis was/is the Michael Jordan of boxing

for godzhand its about joe louis and many moore lol.(i think she fine to...) and i agree joe louis...i mean damn..that old boxing style rocked...ko'ing ppl left and right...5 seconds of silence for joe everyone

ok why dont you go fight tyson.

Ali would have finished Louis in 8. The guy hits harder than a *****..

tyson wasnt over rated, he may be now, but in his prime he would have taken ali.... ali struggled against frazier, who isnt half the fighter tyson was... IMO.... end of the day tyson could knock anyone out, even butterbean lol

Tyson would have killed the division at the time Frazier and Ali were at large....Speaking of Frazier remember when Tyson kicked his son's ass....HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!

Mike Tyson is a frontrunner.

He's never come from behind to win a fight. He looks like he wants to cry when someone takes his punch & slaps him back.

He looked for a way to quit when a former crusierweight (Holyfield) actually took the frontrunner's punches & hit him back.


Great fighters RISE up through adversity. Mike has done nothing but SHRINK in the face of it...Every time out.

Who do you think would've beaten Ali if not Lewis or Tyson?

Joe Louis ( the best boxer - puncher ever )
also Dempsey would give Ali an unholy beating
You saw fight Dempsey-Tunney and Louis-Conn?:)

Mike Tyson is a frontrunner.

He's never come from behind to win a fight. He looks like he wants to cry when someone takes his punch & slaps him back.

He looked for a way to quit when a former crusierweight (Holyfield) actually took the frontrunner's punches & hit him back.


Great fighters RISE up through adversity. Mike has done nothing but SHRINK in the face of it...Every time out.

Exaclty. Frazier had twice the stamina and heart of Tyson. Mike crumbled when his gameplan wasn't working, Frazier kept going at it till his opponnent fell. Tyson was a plodder-he didn't use half the movement and bobbing and weaving of Frazier. Tyson was a stalker who could hit hard and land the occasional combination,it was very easy to tie him up, and if you forced Tyson to work with a high-workrate and punchout he'd get very frustrated-
Frazier was a machine who just did not stop 'smoking'. He actually wanted his opponents to throw the kitchen sink at him b/c he got stronger as the fight progressed. Tyson was always more dangerous in the first 2 rounds and then he became a rather ordinary boxer with a good punch arsenal and power.

tyson wasnt over rated, he may be now, but in his prime he would have taken ali.... ali struggled against frazier, who isnt half the fighter tyson was... IMO.... end of the day tyson could knock anyone out, even butterbean lol


he actually fought someone WHO LOST TO BUTTERBEAN :eek: Peter mcneely. what a shambles that was.

I think the Mike Tyson that ko'd Michael Spinks would have beat any heavyweight in history. Watch some Tyson fights from 86 - 89 people and you will see yourself just how good he was.

I think the Mike Tyson that ko'd Michael Spinks would have beat any heavyweight in history. Watch some Tyson fights from 86 - 89 people and you will see yourself just how good he was.



yeah....The knee-bandaged, former lt. heavy champ.
The petrified one, who had one fight in two years before facing Tyson.

Whoo-hoo.

Tyson in his prime was not overrated at all.

Now he is overrated because some people still view him as the boxer he was in the 80's and the media blows up everyone of his fights.

yeah....The knee-bandaged, former lt. heavy champ.
The petrified one, who had one fight in two years before facing Tyson.

Whoo-hoo.

Spinks was also a former heavyweight champ who beat Larry Holmes twice. I think the knee was bandaged because Spinks didn't want any nasty canvas burns :D

Tyson is certainly not the greatest of all time and absolutely postively not in the top 4 or 5 of all time. His legacy argument can be made after that though, he was the youngest man ever to win the heavyweight championship of the world, maybe I am niave and am forgetting that someone will always come along, but I don't believe we will ever see another heavyweight at Tyson's age win the title and put fear in the entire division the way he did, at least not in my lifetime and I'm 26.

I Would Rank Tyson At About 9th Of All Time

Muhammad Ali is so overrated it's ridiculous. Yes he was the greatest of his time and probably accomplished more than any hw in history but to make it like he is unbeatable against any hw of any era is just stupid. I think Lennox Lewis would soundly beat Ali and I'd give Tyson a pretty good shot too. Larry Holmes would've given Ali trouble ANY time they fought.
sad to say but i feel that too..homles was ali just a lil bit betta ..and frazier gave ali all sorts of trouble and tyson is the best type of that kind fighter that eva existed.. lewis was humongus and smart he aint great but his intelligence and size made him great when his footwork and speed did not

Larry holmes is one of the most underrated heavyweights

Larry holmes is one of the most underrated heavyweights

I agree. Holmes had a superb jab and met and defeated all the top heavys of his time(I'm talking pre Tyson), I think people forget the fact he was champ for 7 years and was 48-0 before he ran into Spinks.

And of course Tyson is the only man ever to stop him :)

yeah i feel ali is overated. VERY

Tyson may not have had the greatest reign, but in his prime he can compete with ANYONE, even if just because of his KO power. That includes Ali, no matter how much the old-timers say otherwise.

Tyson in his prime wa just as mentally strong as anyone and had head-movement, was great at closing in and threw COMBOS, vicious combos.

Don't look at Tyson of today and say that he would never beat Ali or compete with him, that's just wrong.