View Full Version : 10th year anniversary of the greatest Hip Hop album ever


FUMIN 88
01-14-2008, 09:09 AM
its been 10 year since Capital Punishment was released in my opinion its the best Hip-Hop LP ever

"The first Latin rapper to baffle your skull came and went quickly in rap. His impact, though, has far exceeded his time in the game. When it seemed like Latin Americans had been permanently excised from the rap world, Christopher "Big Punisher" Rios arrived with a lightning-quick liquid flow, a waistline worthy of two linebackers and a sense of humor to match--instantly making him one of hip-hop's most charismatic figures."


Beware
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Produced by JuJu of The Beatnuts

JuJu : Pun gave me an idea. He told me, "I need that dirty, grimy ****. You gotta give me a track that's gonna let *****s know how I'm coming." And I was like, "That's what I'm good at. Some *****s do dance records. I do the grimy, dirty shirt." So I went into the lab, did a couple of beats. I came back, let him hear some stuff and he was like, "This is it, man." [It had a Mobb Deep sample in the beginning] "I gave you fair warning: Beware. "

Fat Joe : This is one of my favorite tracks ever by Pun, a greater introduction couldn't be done. So I got on the back of it and started talking ****, basically trying to tell *****s I'm not alone no more. I found a partner who sees my same point of view, and he's nasty . Deal with that. Y'all got a problem, let me know. Mutha****as was like, "Not only do we gotta deal with Fat Joe, now we gotta deal with the nicest ***** in the universe."

FUMIN 88
01-14-2008, 09:13 AM
Super Lyrical
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Produced by Rockwilder, Featuring Black Thought

Sean Cane : Pun wanted to use Black Thought on there because everybody else was sleeping on him. He was like, "Yo, Black Thought is mad lyrical. Y'all don't realize that. Everybody's sleeping on him. Watch, I'ma put him on here so *****s see how lyrical he is."

Fat Joe : Pun was like, "Yo, I wanna **** with him." And at first, I thought Black Thought kinda got in his ass. But Pun'll set a ***** up--let you rhyme equal to him, then come out here and **** you up.

Rockwilder : When we did "Super Lyrical," Pun came up in the studio with Cuban Link. Pun ran through his lyrics, and the way he ran through it, he would say one whole long line like as long as his breath could hold it. And then he would open another track and continue where he left off on that track and double it up and then carry it to the next track. It was just ill to see somebody do that.

FUMIN 88
01-14-2008, 09:15 AM
Still Not A Player
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Produced by Knobody, Coproduced by Dahoud and Nomad, Featuring Joe

Nomad: I went to everybody. I went to Roc-A-Fella, Jay was like, "That beat's aight." I went back there after the **** dropped and he was like, "Yo, why you ain't give me that beat?" Everybody and their mother, I went and seen them with that beat.

But Pun was like, "Yo, that's hot, run with that." He knew. He was just like, "Oh, ****. I'ma talk about girls, this and that." He was like, "I'm going to make this the flyest pimp Puerto Rican song." I was just like, Okay, whatever man, do your thing. He was just ill, man. To see him rhyme, like double-time. I mean that's the first Spanish cat I've ever seen kill it like that. "Da Da Da Da Da Da, Da Da Da Da Da Da Da, Da Da Da Da Da Da Da." He wouldn't take no breaths, just keep spitting, spitting, spitting, spitting.

Soundboy: As an instrumental, I knew, Wow, we got a grand slam here. Before any lyrics or any choruses were done, I think me and Pun knew we had something special. It wasn't your typical boom-boom-bap beat. It wasn't your typical hardcore, gloomy dark beat. It was kind of a happy, lighthearted beat, and I was very anxious to see what Pun would do to it. Pun was very versatile. He could do a song like "Super Lyrical," which is basically about lyrics, and he could do a song like "Deep Cover," which is a hardcore thugged-out joint. And then he could do a song like "Still Not A Player," which is kind of a comical song--but still keep it within the boundaries of hip-hop, still keeping within the boundaries of thugness, I guess, if you want to call it that. It's not like he came off weak or soft. Even though the beat might have dictated that, he still did his thing on it.

I've got to admit, I was somewhat apprehensive when Joe the singer came down. 'Cause I was like, "Joe and Pun? Damn ." It's like Black and White. Extremes. Hardcore MC teamed up with, how can I say, a ladies' man type of guy--smooth, silky finesse dude. At first I was like, "I don't know if this is going to work. This is like, too extreme." This is way before the J. Los and the Ja Rules and what have you. I didn't know if it was going to work.

On the "Boricua/Morena" part, Joe, an Afro-American, was having problems saying the word "Boricua." [Joe was like] "Borick-qua... Bor-qua... Borequay..." I remember Pun was basically telling Joe to say it the right way: "No, Bo- ree -qua." So when he finally got it, we was like, "Okay, it's a wrap." And we just knew we had a monster on our hands.

Joe: Pun came to me with the idea to merge the two songs together--my original song, "Don't Wanna Be A Player," and his "Still Not A Player." We was just merging the two records together.

He was there when I did my part. Pun was cool. Just real relaxed, very focused, a very focused person. He knew exactly what he wanted. He knew automatically that the song was gonna be a smash. He felt it from the door, when he brought me into it. Let's make this magic happen. It was fun--a lot of fun. We kind of made history together. The record just continued to be a big record everywhere it went.

Flex: Pun really changed the whole perspective for Hispanics with that song. It took us around the world. It changed our whole lives. That was the most influential thing in our lives.

Pun loved to show the similarities between the races. He was a genius. Pun changed the way we thought about ourselves. He brought greatness out of all of us. He made us chase our dreams. Pun opened our eyes to a lot of great things. Pun is a Moses to me. All that negativity and that disbelief, he parted it, just knocked it out. We were doing everything we could just to stay in the market. Before Jennifer, Ricky Martin or anybody, Pun did it for Latinos. And they used him to touch the urban market. This song means Pun flying first class, slumped out all over the person next to him.

FUMIN 88
01-14-2008, 09:21 AM
The Dream Shatterer

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Produced by Domingo

Domingo: When I was in the middle of doing [Fat Joe's] Jealous One's Envy album [in 1995], Pun was always coming to the studio. Pun asked me for a beat tape, because CDs were not even in style yet. The beat for "Dream Shatterer" was on that tape, and Big Pun always told me, "Yo, when I get a deal, it's on." He told me not to sell the beat. A couple of years went down the line. Pun called me one night when he was working on Capital Punishment . He was like, "What's up with that beat that I told you to save?" I was like, "Yeah. I still got it." So I went up to the studio, Axis Studios on 54th Street [in Manhattan]. Pun came in the room and played me the original "Dream Shatterer," which was with the Barry White sample. He told me that he couldn't clear the sample because at that time Puffy had the record out with Black Rob with the same sample. So Pun said, "Take the a capella of 'Dream Shatterer' and let me know if the beat matches it." And to be honest with you, when I went home and threw the beat on and put the vocals to it, it sounded like Pun actually rhymed to the track.

When I first stepped in the studio with him to do "Dream Shatterer," I'd seen him rhyme before--but when he was doing his album, I saw a totally different Pun. I saw the hungry Pun. Just watching him rhyme and seeing the size he was, I used to bug out how he could spit so many words and not even lose his breath.

His work ethic was incredible. He was a prankster. He was ready to get down. If you were in the studio lounge room, he was joking around. But when he walked into the recording booth, he was all business.

FUMIN 88
01-14-2008, 09:38 AM
this video is amazing had to post it, its not on the Capital Punishment album but its just amazing that the hole of the U.S rap and hip hop scene are supporting the video and showing how much they all love and mis Pun

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Konfusious
01-14-2008, 11:02 AM
Man, I came into this thread, thinking you were gonna talk about some weak album but duke, you spoke the gospel truth. This is one of the gretestest albums ever. I mean, I cant even tell you how much this **** still rocks in my ipod, in my car. Pun is one of the illest ever to do it, whether hispanic, black, white. He was just ill, his flow was ridiculous, lyrics out of hand. I played his **** for like a month when I heard he died, senseless death.

Great MC, Great artist, just a phenomenal lyricist. His skits are still the only ones that I have memorize and make me crack up instantly. Great thread, man.

baya
01-14-2008, 11:48 AM
Co-sign.

Had any other latino came out with something pretending to be a great and not achieved it - then I wouldn't be in this thread now.

This album is the type that kept you reaching for your rewind button on the CD player and saying to yourself "what the ****!" in pure enjoyment.

Big Pun made it all happen - dude in his time was without peer.

He kept the "Big" moniker alive and well.

Pun, Notorious and L.

res
01-14-2008, 12:45 PM
Unquestionable Hip Hop great. Alot of versions of Dream Shatterer but the original is the best.

I'm strange though because I'm probably the only person that likes this mix of of Pun and Joe's Deep Cover better than their original version .


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Konfusious
01-14-2008, 12:54 PM
nah, you're not alone. that deep cover with pun and joe is ridiculous. It could be that i'm in love with the little italy line but that was one of dopest covers, I've ever heard. RIP Pun

FUMIN 88
01-14-2008, 03:02 PM
Unquestionable Hip Hop great. Alot of versions of Dream Shatterer but the original is the best.

I'm strange though because I'm probably the only person that likes this mix of of Pun and Joe's Deep Cover better than their original version .


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i like that version two if pun was still around he would distroy all these fake rappers that dominate hip-hop today

baya
01-14-2008, 03:52 PM
i like that version two if pun was still around he would distroy all these fake rappers that dominate hip-hop today

if pun were around, 50's paper wouldn't reach as far as it does now. pun would have lyrically sodomized 50 into a very non-existent rap career.

pun would have done to 50 what he did to ja, only so much worse.

FUMIN 88
01-15-2008, 07:36 AM
if pun were around, 50's paper wouldn't reach as far as it does now. pun would have lyrically sodomized 50 into a very non-existent rap career.

pun would have done to 50 what he did to ja, only so much worse.

yea i agree and i think 50 new that too because when pun dissed 50 back 50 never came with a reply even tho he had time to befor pun died

50cents a plastic thug and a realy ****ty rapper