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barryboy
10-25-2004, 11:55 AM
Ricky Hatton will make the 15th defence of his WBU light-welterweight title against Ray Oliveira at ExCel in London in early December.
Hatton is biding his time by facing the 36-year-old American as he waits for a crack at either Kostya Tszyu or Sharmba Mitchell for the undisputed crown.
Oliveira holds a 47-9-2 record, including a majority decision victory over former Hatton opponent Vince Phillips.
But he boasts only 22 stoppage wins - and having not fought in top world class for three years, he appears the ideal tune-up for Hatton
Hatton's fight with Oliveira will take place on December 11 - the same night as Danny Williams' WBC world heavyweight title challenge to Vitali Klitschko, which is expected to be confirmed tomorrow for the Mandalay Bay resort in Las Vegas.

We knew the guy for the December date wouldn't bee too demanding so i'm not surprised and at least it will be exciting while it lasts.

baya
10-25-2004, 01:33 PM
Ricky Hatton will make the 15th defence of his WBU light-welterweight title against Ray Oliveira at ExCel in London in early December.
Hatton is biding his time by facing the 36-year-old American as he waits for a crack at either Kostya Tszyu or Sharmba Mitchell for the undisputed crown.
Oliveira holds a 47-9-2 record, including a majority decision victory over former Hatton opponent Vince Phillips.
But he boasts only 22 stoppage wins - and having not fought in top world class for three years, he appears the ideal tune-up for Hatton
Hatton's fight with Oliveira will take place on December 11 - the same night as Danny Williams' WBC world heavyweight title challenge to Vitali Klitschko, which is expected to be confirmed tomorrow for the Mandalay Bay resort in Las Vegas.

We knew the guy for the December date wouldn't bee too demanding so i'm not surprised and at least it will be exciting while it lasts.

whatta ya mean? rays a really good fighter, one of those guys who the top dogs never wanna get in with. rays the only fighter to ever beat vivian harris. i was actually surprised that hatton took this fight. rays a real tough guy so i'm almost sure that this will go the entire 12. rays a crafty guy, so we might even see ricky go down. and i'm sure he'll bring his A game to london to fight hatton.

Upset????? Who Knows!!????

barryboy
10-25-2004, 02:11 PM
Your spot on he is a pretty good fighter, just not a top guy which is what was expected.
I've seen Oliveira a few times on the espn shows they used to put on over here, excellent workrate and a crafty old guy, the thing I think will get him is he's a pretty old for the smaller weights, he hasn't fought at 140 for about 3 years and he has been up to about 150 something in the mean time so I reckon he will kill himself to make the weight, they will engage in a good fast paced battle for the first few rounds then the body work and persistance of Hatton will wear Oliveira down, there's always the chance in a Hatton fight that the fight could end because of a cut and i'd say that's Ray's best chance to hope Hatton gets busted up early. Hatton between 6-9.

jpboxer3
10-25-2004, 02:27 PM
It's gonna be interesting to see if Oliveira can even make Weight because he's fought six fights in the last two years at Welterweight.He is a tough guy but he better be in top notch condition to take Hattons brutal bodyshots.All I know is if Hatton gets past Oliveira,he better fight either Harris or the winner of Mitchell/Tszyu.

baya
10-25-2004, 04:20 PM
damn, u guys are right. didn't register that this fight was going to be at 140, which ray hasn't been at in a while!! he was just calling out cintron a week ago ... may be a shorter night than i anticipated.

J !
10-26-2004, 06:55 AM
may gop to this Excel only round the corner (*well half hour) fomr mine then back home to watch Danny bump that big lump of a Ukrainian!!!! That sounds liek a good night! Its the week beofre I got to Sinapgore and Oz for a month too, win win, ship it in! :cool:

stu
10-26-2004, 02:58 PM
Did Oliveira beat Vivian Harris a few years ago, as some papers have made mention to it?

elveiel
10-26-2004, 06:43 PM
Did Oliveira beat Vivian Harris a few years ago, as some papers have made mention to it?

Yeah, been told it was a good points win.

Here is his record
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=005693

Ranger2408
10-26-2004, 07:07 PM
man did you see he has the no 2 and three record of most punches in a fight? :eek:

elveiel
10-26-2004, 08:38 PM
man did you see he has the no 2 and three record of most punches in a fight? :eek:

Look at 1993!! 3,020 total punches thrown - CompuBox record for most punches thrown in a fight.

dansweeney
10-26-2004, 08:48 PM
hatton will ko oliveira for the first stoppage loss of his career, they are serving him up, he is over the hill

elveiel
10-26-2004, 08:53 PM
hatton will ko oliveira for the first stoppage loss of his career, they are serving him up, he is over the hill

It could be another vince phillips, old man with plenty of steroids!

I doubt Warren would pick a hard opponent at this stage, i'll go with Hatton KO.

markosg19
10-28-2004, 10:47 AM
notice how even though hatton is no.1 in thw WBO rankings, no-one is mentioning a fight with cotto?? Whats that i smell....... frank warrens underwear!!!!

barryboy
10-28-2004, 11:38 AM
Cotto was actually mentioned, Hatton's no.1 in both WBO and IBF and Warren's position is he'd rather wait for the winner of Tszyu/Mitchell as he'd be regarded as the number one man in the division so it's a sensible move.

J !
10-28-2004, 12:31 PM
correct barry, plus cotto hatton is one for 18 months / 2 years time when they both have decent belts which would be massive both sides of the atlantic.

You all set for 2m Barry? Anything you need sorting out, Ian sorted the press passes for ya mate?

barryboy
10-28-2004, 12:45 PM
Looking forward to Tomorrow, it's actually a decent undercard but not sure if i'll have some trouble getting in, Ian said the guys not been in touch to confirm my pass so I just hope I don't get embarrassed at the door :o but he's gave me the guys number just in case so fingers crossed!

J !
10-28-2004, 12:59 PM
that will be Richard maynard? dont panic he is hopeless at getting back to people, give him a ring when you get a minute and just say who you are and who you are reporting for, will be fine, fone him before though mate just to be sure, he is a pleasant enough chap ive spoke to him many times he is usually quite helpful, just he will be running around like a blue arsed fly at the min, ive been loadsa times AT sn shows it wont be a prob mate but bell him to be sure. ;)

barryboy
10-28-2004, 01:17 PM
Cheers mate, Ian said he'd phoned him and left a message on his answerphone so if I don't hear anything by later tonight i'll give him a ring myself.

J !
10-28-2004, 01:30 PM
kool wiv a k mate, dont want your first outing to be an anticlimax!!! been a bit lazy lately meself on the wirting fornt was on leave last week and got a few lined up in nov so taking a lil break, might do a piece on the lightweight scene (Cook, earl, vanzie, phillips, bennett, murray theres a few to discuss) and get Jim watt to add a few comments as Ive got a contact for him. :cool:

barryboy
10-28-2004, 01:47 PM
Ah ya name dropper :D The lightweights in this country are very evenly matched so hopefully they will come together, we've had Cook/Bennett which was a bit of a disappointment and now we've got Bennett v Dean Phillips and Cook fighting Aldo Rios so they are exciting times for the lightweights, I just hope Bobby Vanzie gets a bit of luck for once!

markosg19
10-28-2004, 02:56 PM
do you really think that two years down the line hatton will still be undefeated or a major challenger? if he does get a shot at tzyu or mitchell he will lose and cotto will be a superstar by then. Why not take what little chance he has now of beating cotto. Hatton will probably end up fighting for the wbo title that cotto gives up.

J !
10-29-2004, 05:00 AM
Ah ya name dropper :D The lightweights in this country are very evenly matched so hopefully they will come together, we've had Cook/Bennett which was a bit of a disappointment and now we've got Bennett v Dean Phillips and Cook fighting Aldo Rios so they are exciting times for the lightweights, I just hope Bobby Vanzie gets a bit of luck for once!

haha sorry mate, its all Kev who runs the site he does all the hob nobbi9ng and shcmoozing at the bashes then picks up boxers and ex boxers fone numbers...errrr that dont sound right does it :D
yeah be intersting to find out Deano is a real nice guy as it goes chatted to him a few times over on box rec he posts there reguarly could be the divisions dark horse!


poor old bobby vanzie, i thought he won the earl fight (both but spesh the 2nd) that was a joke decision.

J !
10-29-2004, 05:03 AM
do you really think that two years down the line hatton will still be undefeated or a major challenger? if he does get a shot at tzyu or mitchell he will lose and cotto will be a superstar by then. Why not take what little chance he has now of beating cotto. Hatton will probably end up fighting for the wbo title that cotto gives up.

seems you ve made you mind up so not much point in arguing? ;) This isnt aimed at you mate but Im getting a bit pissed off with all this pro cotto - anti hatton feeling at present, face it they have both fought similar level fighters, yes Cotto has doen iut quicker but I wish people would stop making out that Htton isnt world class he is.

no argument. :cool:

markosg19
10-29-2004, 07:45 AM
it's not that i don't think Hatton is world class, i am just fed up of frank warren ruining good fighters and allowing them to pass their peek without a career defining fight. Sadly i think that by the time hatton actually gets his shot he will be past it in the same way calzaghe's ship has sailed and Hamed lost it way before he fought barrera.

J !
10-29-2004, 08:30 AM
fair comment mark! :cool: