Now, I’ve noticed how cunts are mouthing off recently about how the England players have no passion and should be dropped because they misbehave off the pitch. I believe this is down to class. Football used to be a working class sport. The players came from a working class background and we, as fans could relate to them. When they went out on the piss and shagged every tart that was going, people used to say, “ah, he’s just one of the lads, we do the same thing every Friday and Saturday night”. They didn’t earn the fortunes that today’s players do. When the players were young and in the youth team or reserves they would clean the boots of first team members, and when they retired a lot of em ended up owning/running a pub. They were one of us.

Nowadays, players still come from working class backgrounds, but they are separated from us by the money and lifestyle. From a young age their egos are fed are they are feted and fought over by top clubs. By the time they break into the first team and make a name for themselves they are making a fortune each week, going to exclusive nightclubs, driving flash cars and living in luxury houses/mansions. When they retire they never have to worry about money again. They’re millionaires. They are not one of us, so when they do something wrong – either a bad performance or going out on the piss or getting caught shagging a prossy in Scarborough, we think “look at how much they’re earning, they should be setting an example, they should be professional.” We don’t see that they’re just doing what we would be doing in the same situation. Essentially, they are just going out and having a laugh, so what the cunt is wrong with that?

When footballers are in the papers doing something wrong these days we resent it because we, as fans, are being exploited, and it is our money that pays for their extravagant lifestyle. I don’t think any of us can condemn them for what they do, because everyone goes out on the piss and gets up to **** they shouldn’t. They are no different from us in that respect. The difference is in the fact that football is no longer “our” sport, the ordinary fan is being excluded to the detriment of the shagging game.

Football is excluding the working classes, and we resent it. The ticket prices mean that many fans who would previously have been season ticket holders or regulars cannot afford to go the games anymore. You go to a game these days and you are more likely to sit next to a family, or a businessman who’s got tickets through his company, or foreign day trippers who’ve got money and come over to see the game. The atmosphere is nowhere near what it used to be, because the true supporters are being priced out. So where before you’d get singing and chanting and a good atmosphere, now you get people who look at you like a tart if you dare to shout “the referee’s a wanker”, or parents with children who would politely ask you not to say such rude words in front of their nippers. ****in cunts the lot of em. The atmosphere gets better the lower down the leagues you go, but I believe this is due to the fact that the lower league clubs do not charge the prices that the premier league clubs do, and thus, do not exclude the ordinary working class fans.

**** me, I just read that back and I sound like a bastard socialist shag monkey. You can call me Che Hoffara from now on:

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Youre right mate, the game is attracting a crowd of fairies who cant relate to working class lads pastimes and interests.
The way I see it as long as the players arent causing bother let em go out n roast birds n get pissed up FFS its not like theyre out granny bashing to feed a smack habit, the press wanna leave off the players, aye they should be dropped if they playing ****e but not cos theyve gettin pissed up.
The game is a better atmosphere at the match lower down the league, thats how football should be, not a snobby atmosphere from poofters who are only there to eye the players up.

It's only divad whining about the misbehaving. He's also against foreign-born citizens in the England team. I can't imagine who he sees as elgible for England.

When I was a few years younger, we had a regular goal we called the 'trifecta'. That's when you play a footbal match, get drunk, and shag a bird all in the same evening. Would divad even deny that this is one of life's greatest achievements? What are the 'misbehaving' lads doing other than scoring weekly trifectas?

i'll agree about the lack of fun on the terraces, i will also agree that people do turn round and look at you as if you've grown a second head when you try and start a song off..

Like, last time i went to the Owls i was sat far away from the family enclosure and began singing to our midfielder Kenny Lunt.

Posh Spice is a slapper,!!
Shes got a saggy cu*t!!
and when she's shagging Beckham!!
She dreams of Kenny Lunt!!

Yet i still got people turning round and wondering what on earth i'm doing. Not just that, but when i'm swearing at the Away crowd and signalling that i'm going to kill them etc, i feel as if i'm the only one.

Some games,i feel as if the atmosphere has let me down, and that i've wasted the £30 i've parted with.

Football prices need to be brought down, also ban women...


... ok, they can go on one stand or something.







... unless there really fit.

It's only divad whining about the misbehaving. He's also against foreign-born citizens in the England team. I can't imagine who he sees as elgible for England.

When I was a few years younger, we had a regular goal we called the 'trifecta'. That's when you play a footbal match, get drunk, and shag a bird all in the same evening. Would divad even deny that this is one of life's greatest achievements? What are the 'misbehaving' lads doing other than scoring weekly trifectas?

It's not just on these boards though Kaygay, there has increasingly been a backlash against "overpaid players with no passion who misbehave" over here in limeyland, and Div 'ead is just expressing that.

i'll agree about the lack of fun on the terraces, i will also agree that people do turn round and look at you as if you've grown a second head when you try and start a song off..

Like, last time i went to the Owls i was sat far away from the family enclosure and began singing to our midfielder Kenny Lunt.

Posh Spice is a slapper,!!
Shes got a saggy cu*t!!
and when she's shagging Beckham!!
She dreams of Kenny Lunt!!

Yet i still got people turning round and wondering what on earth i'm doing. Not just that, but when i'm swearing at the Away crowd and signalling that i'm going to kill them etc, i feel as if i'm the only one.

Some games,i feel as if the atmosphere has let me down, and that i've wasted the £30 i've parted with.

Football prices need to be brought down, also ban women...


... ok, they can go on one stand or something.







... unless there really fit.
That's a quality chant there Mickey.

I've found that the atmosphere at away games is better than when you go to a home game, as it's only the dedicated true fans who make the effort to get to the away games, and they'll make a proper day of it and have a laugh and sing and threaten to rape the oppositions star players cat, and stuff like that.

****in 'ell, I shouldn't have said that. Welter will start supporting Leicester and going to all the games if he thinks there's an opportunity for some feline molestation.

I goto my local amatuer teams matches now, they aways are a great laugh we get pissed up, drink in the crowd, shout abuse at the opposing goalie, sing daft song like "YOU LIGHT UP MY SENSES,LIKE A PACKET OF WOODBINES,LIKE A PINT OF JOHN SMITHS,LIKE A PINCH OF GOOD SNUFF,LIKE A NIGHT OUT IN SPENNY, OH SPENNY WE LOVE YOU,THRILL US AGAIN" but its good craic, we get pissed right up, watch the match and have a laugh without silly shirtlifting bastards reporting to the stewards lol.
I used to work with the club secretary and he used to show me letters of complaint from the league chairman about the "abuse and hostility" he endured when he came to our ground lol.

Sounds bostin' Porlie.

It's the same kind of thing with the Man U fans who got ****ed off with the Glazers and Man U and went and started their own club. They were trying to get back to the basics and have a club for the fans. People are pissed off with getting ripped off and exploited.

Aye mate most owners of the premiership clubs are outta touch with the fans, the singing and stuff dying is because people are trying to change the culture of the game from a working class sport to a shirtlifters day out.
If you gotta local amatuer team you n ya mates should start going to watch them mate its always good craic, good days out and good away days.

There's a club called Dynamo Smethwick me mate was on about. I might go just for a laugh.

I think Mike Ashley sitting with the fans just makes him seem like a pompous cunt who's doing it for the publicity.

Our American owner has been good. He's made a few nice gestures, like paying for 6000 villa fans to travel to an away game the once. He's fairly low key as well, he puts up the money to back MO'N and doesn't crave attention like Deadly Doug did.

Aye yas should go mate I bet yas have a good laugh and day out, Ashley siutting with the fans is why Allardyce has gone youre right he should stick to sorting transfer funds out and plotting our revival.
the yank you lot got seems the business, hes going the right way about making yas a massive club that win things again.

hahaha i laughed at Porlie - "a shirtlifters day out". haha.

Your right though as well Hoff. Last season, me and the lads went to watch some dire football at Hillsborough and the atmosphere was wank.

But.. let me tell you...

When we were playing ****e and had a 8 game losing streak at the beginning of the season, the atmosphere was brilliant. Strange you might think... but only the true fans turned out... the wankers stayed at home not wanting to watch, frankly, a losing side.

Same as when i went away to Leeds. Our day out at Elland Road was teh best ****ign day of my life i reckon. From that day on, alot of the lads were saying "**** gettin a season ticket, we'll all just go to more away games instead". Because going Away was so much more a better day.

It dont make any difference if thier working class or not IMO i dont resent Football players because of the money they earn i could 'nt care less they are gifted people who get paid well because they poccess an ability

i aint a bitter person in general , i dont feel disgruntled like the rest of these muppets that pay thier hard earned cash to abuse the players from the stands and vent their frustraion at the players cause they are jelous of what they have

i dont think England players showed a lack of passion i think it was a lack of motivation & direction ,England tried their hearts out against Coatia possibly to hard & that is why they paid the price in the end England do not play intelligently enough or creative enough

Div 'ead, where abouts in Brum are you from?

What team do you support?

Away days are the best part of watching football, I go watch my local team Macc Town every home game, and then every few weeks or so a load of us go for an away day.

Nowt better than getting up first thing, meetin ya mates in wethers for breakfast and a pint, then gettin the train to wherever!

Bury away, take the 30 min train journey up to Manchester, get hammered round the city centre, then get the Metro to Bury, slightly sober up during the match, get back into Manchester for a few more beers, then hit the town back in good old Macc!

Away days are the best part of watching football, I go watch my local team Macc Town every home game, and then every few weeks or so a load of us go for an away day.

Nowt better than getting up first thing, meetin ya mates in wethers for breakfast and a pint, then gettin the train to wherever!

Bury away, take the 30 min train journey up to Manchester, get hammered round the city centre, then get the Metro to Bury, slightly sober up during the match, get back into Manchester for a few more beers, then hit the town back in good old Macc!

Sounds so familiar mate.

You know what? Sometimes the best part of the whole day is the journey up there. I don't know if that sounds stupid. Meet early, drink in the morning, cheap full english. All about the craic. A few cans on the train.

Its brilliant.

Damn right the journey is the best part, cans on the way, letting every ****er around ya know, where ya come from, seeing different sets of fans at motorway/train stations all around the country, don't get into any trouble, just have a reet good laugh.

Agreed 100%.

It's turned into a richboy sport. And when it turns to that...it turns to ****.