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TheHoff'sGhost
01-02-2008, 05:26 PM
I'm cunting fascinated by it all so I am. The government said she was done in by the bomb blast, but there's footage of her getting shot in the bonce. I reckon Musharaf had something to do with it.

Her husband is a bit of dodgy geezer aint he. The corrupt fanny fart.

ICEMAN_JOHN
01-02-2008, 05:32 PM
It seems as though Bhutto wanted to be a martyr. After the suicide bombing killed 100+ during her home coming in 2007; you would've thought she'd be more cunting careful and at least have a sizeable security detail in force while she was campaigning.

TheHoff'sGhost
01-02-2008, 05:35 PM
It seems as though Bhutto wanted to be a martyr. After the suicide bombing killed 100+ during her home coming in 2007; you would've thought she'd be more cunting careful and at least have a sizeable security detail in force while she was campaigning.

I believe that she asked for improved security around her but the government either didn't give it to her, or wouldn't let her have it, one of the two. I also read that the US offered to send people over to work as part of her security detail, but the issue was that they (the americans who would get sent over) would become a target themselves.

TheHoff'sGhost
01-02-2008, 05:43 PM
****in BigHitlerPump. If he hadn't banned Naz fan I could have had a good chat with him about this. I need me a muslim perspective so I do.

eazy_mas
01-02-2008, 05:51 PM
Hoff threaten me to get invovle :D


well Mussarif wasnt behind the attack but he was responsiable for not supply the best protection.

As for Bhutto she was attacked the same why couple of moneth ago too.

It probably the tribal area with the help of al-Qadea that they are the number one suspect but why is another question.

Musharef and Bhutto relationship is pretty good even if the recent years it came down. He helped her to become a PM.

The other parties didnt trust her because they were afraid that Bhutto will sell them out to Musharif

The reason is pretty hard to say. It could be even her own party so they get some sympathy vote and support but it not likely

TheHoff'sGhost
01-02-2008, 06:06 PM
Hoff threaten me to get invovle :D


well Mussarif wasnt behind the attack but he was responsiable for not supply the best protection.

As for Bhutto she was attacked the same why couple of moneth ago too.

It probably the tribal area with the help of al-Qadea that they are the number one suspect but why is another question.

Musharef and Bhutto relationship is pretty good even if the recent years it came down. He helped her to become a PM.

The other parties didnt trust her because they were afraid that Bhutto will sell them out to Musharif

The reason is pretty hard to say. It could be even her own party so they get some sympathy vote and support but it not likely
Bhutto had promised to get rid of terrorist groups in pakistan and drive them out, and also to take control of the area between afganistan and pakistan where tribal groups rule and give support to terrorist groups such as al quaeda. That could be motivation for them, but I think there is reason to doubt that it was them.

Her own party is in turmoil right now though, is it not? I mean they will probably get sympathy votes, but at the same time Mr. 10 per cent (sardari) is as corrupt as they come and will surely put the voters off, and a 19 year old boy with no experience in politics wont inspire confidence either.

Why do you think the government said that she was killed by the bomb blast, when it seems clear that it was a gunman who killed her?

What, specifically, were the other parties scared of? How did they think that Bhutto would sell them out to Musharaf?

DURAN_IS_GOD
01-02-2008, 06:31 PM
i couldn't believe the government tried to fob everyone off by saying she died by hitting her head on the sunroof lever, 6 hours after video had been released of a bloke shooting her from 5 ft away.... now to the best of my knowledge this guy didn't have a jerry curl and wasn't singin signed, sealed delivered so im guessing he ****ing got her....

TheHoff'sGhost
01-02-2008, 06:34 PM
i couldn't believe the government tried to fob everyone off by saying she died by hitting her head on the sunroof lever, 6 hours after video had been released of a bloke shooting her from 5 ft away.... now to the best of my knowledge this guy didn't have a jerry curl and wasn't singin signed, sealed delivered so im guessing he ****ing got her....

Yeah, that's it, they said she smacked her bonce off the sunroof lever trying to scramble out the way when the bomb went off. What ****ing bollocks.

What seemed strange to me was that her husband didn't want an autopsy to find out the true cause of death, and thus, prove that the government was lying.

DURAN_IS_GOD
01-02-2008, 06:36 PM
Yeah, that's it, they said she smacked her bonce off the sunroof lever trying to scramble out the way when the bomb went off. What ****ing bollocks.

What seemed strange to me was that her husband didn't want an autopsy to find out the true cause of death, and thus, prove that the government was lying.
apparently its islamic culture to have the body committed to the ground as soon as possible, and without being touched. so a post mortem would obviously **** that up, but in something as important as that you'd figure they'd sort one out

TheHoff'sGhost
01-02-2008, 06:41 PM
apparently its islamic culture to have the body committed to the ground as soon as possible, and without being touched. so a post mortem would obviously **** that up, but in something as important as that you'd figure they'd sort one out

Apparently her husband (zardari) refused an autopsy out of respect for her and because he felt that any postmortem carried out in Pakistan could not be trusted, but that just doesn't wash. Could he not have arranged the autopsy himself? He is a rich cunt after all, the corrupt shag monkey.

eazy_mas
01-03-2008, 01:07 AM
Bhutto had promised to get rid of terrorist groups in pakistan and drive them out, and also to take control of the area between afganistan and pakistan where tribal groups rule and give support to terrorist groups such as al quaeda. That could be motivation for them, but I think there is reason to doubt that it was them.

Her own party is in turmoil right now though, is it not? I mean they will probably get sympathy votes, but at the same time Mr. 10 per cent (sardari) is as corrupt as they come and will surely put the voters off, and a 19 year old boy with no experience in politics wont inspire confidence either.

Why do you think the government said that she was killed by the bomb blast, when it seems clear that it was a gunman who killed her?

What, specifically, were the other parties scared of? How did they think that Bhutto would sell them out to Musharaf?

Because she did it once long time ago. I heard it on the BBC radio and they asked Amir Khan , former cricketeer, why didnt he let Bhutto's party to join and he answer that way.

As for the incendent a bomb will surely kill her. I didnt see the actully footage but there was many body on the floor.

LOLORSKATES
01-03-2008, 03:15 AM
Maybe this will shed some light for ya, mas.

Bhutto Assassination video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq-DwHXx4oI&eurl=http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=1017)

DURAN_IS_GOD
01-03-2008, 03:46 AM
theres a geezer shooting her from 5 ft away and theres 3 shots fired..... but must of been that sunroof lever that did it :ugh:

hey hoff your right about the post mortem. that tight ****er could easily make sure theres an independent one done, seems strange not to bother

fasman
01-03-2008, 02:48 PM
She was murdered, shot in the head....

Everyone says it was al qaeda, i wouldnt be surprised if musharraf had something to do with it....

Bhutto had guts she knew she was a target but still stood up for the truth and for her people....

She was a problem for the current pakistani govt, they needed to get rid of her plain and simple.....

eazy_mas
01-03-2008, 03:04 PM
She was murdered, shot in the head....

Everyone says it was al qaeda, i wouldnt be surprised if musharraf had something to do with it....

Bhutto had guts she knew she was a target but still stood up for the truth and for her people....

She was a problem for the current pakistani govt, they needed to get rid of her plain and simple.....

well why would Musharraf do this? why not kill Amir Khan or any other opposition.

she was attacked before that so it no suprise she was going to be attacked again. she must know better than to go like that havent she heard of JFK.

another weird thing she was shot with a handgun not sniper. who is the dumb**** going to shot a sniper in a short range?

There must me a reason for this. why Musharraf. Bhutto was controlled by Musharraf to begin with.

Another thing the Army is a complex cooperation some order dont have to come from Mussarraffe and there is alway possability of bridery to corruption invovle. This only will put more pressure on Mussarffe, the tribal people cant take Mussarraff would it be easier to frame him with all the money and guards that could be from some tribe or bribed

Patty Tanager
01-03-2008, 03:06 PM
Maybe she had "guts", but how many more innocent lives did her "guts" cost?.

After that suicide bomb attempt on her killed over 100 people, you would think she would steer clear for a while.

The whole think stinks though, i wouldn't be suprised if Musharraf had something to do with it.

That video was surreal though some guy walking up with some antique pistol in broad light, and no one did anything:ugh:.

Patty Tanager
01-03-2008, 03:08 PM
well why would Musharraf do this? why not kill Amir Khan or any other opposition.

You sure you don't mean Imran Khan:ugh:?.

"Why not kill Amir Khan" sorry i had to lol.

fasman
01-03-2008, 03:18 PM
well why would Musharraf do this? why not kill Amir Khan or any other opposition.

she was attacked before that so it no suprise she was going to be attacked again. she must know better than to go like that havent she heard of JFK.

another weird thing she was shot with a handgun not sniper. who is the dumb**** going to shot a sniper in a short range?

There must me a reason for this. why Musharraf. Bhutto was controlled by Musharraf to begin with.

Another thing the Army is a complex cooperation some order dont have to come from Mussarraffe and there is alway possability of bridery to corruption invovle. This only will put more pressure on Mussarffe, the tribal people cant take Mussarraff would it be easier to frame him with all the money and guards that could be from some tribe or bribed



Musharraf felt threatened by Benazir, she had all the public on her side why did musharraf want to delay the elections with her. Since musharrafs reign theres been more killings and more terrorist attacks than ever before.

The public don't want musharaff to be leader....

american govt wants musharraf to be leader because of all the help pakistan are giving to detain terrorists and capturing them....

Trust me do not underestimate musharraf and what his capable of..

if there was a sniper placed on top of some building with the state of art equipment ready to shoot Benazir, that would have been even more suspicious...

the fact that a nobody got close and killed her with a suicide bomber ready to conceal there identities, that just makes everything look complex....

Always look at the big picture, somethings are not that straight forward...

No1 knows the truth, only the ones involved...

For all we know it could be the al qaeda it could be some radical opposition party behind this.. **** knows.....

fasman
01-03-2008, 03:20 PM
You sure you don't mean Imran Khan:ugh:?.

"Why not kill Amir Khan" sorry i had to lol.

hahaha....

I swear i read that and was thinking who is he on about....:lol1:

fasman
01-03-2008, 03:22 PM
Maybe she had "guts", but how many more innocent lives did her "guts" cost?.

After that suicide bomb attempt on her killed over 100 people, you would think she would steer clear for a while.

The whole think stinks though, i wouldn't be suprised if Musharraf had something to do with it.

That video was surreal though some guy walking up with some antique pistol in broad light, and no one did anything:ugh:.

Yep, thats exactly what i thought....

She knew people were after her, she should have been more careful.....

I guess when your numbers up your numbers up..

TheHoff'sGhost
01-03-2008, 04:47 PM
Eazy mas, in this thread you have spelled Musharraf in 6 different ways. That must be a record. Msagrain will be proud of you son.

eazy_mas
01-04-2008, 06:24 AM
Eazy mas, in this thread you have spelled Musharraf in 6 different ways. That must be a record. Msagrain will be proud of you son.

I not writing for the NY times or to college Prof. just an internet guys on a boxing website.

If I going to write an something offical I would be more careful with my spelling, grammer and organization.

thank you for repaying for me on a topic I didnt want to get invovle I would just call Musharraf Mushfy L:D

If Bhutto wanted to get ride of terrorism would she need the army's help to do so? That means she need Musharraf

fasman
01-04-2008, 02:00 PM
I not writing for the NY times or to college Prof. just an internet guys on a boxing website.

If I going to write an something offical I would be more careful with my spelling, grammer and organization.

thank you for repaying for me on a topic I didnt want to get invovle I would just call Musharraf Mushfy L:D

If Bhutto wanted to get ride of terrorism would she need the army's help to do so? That means she need Musharraf

Technically if Bhutto had got into power, she wouldn't have needed musharrafs help for anything, his not the chief of the army anymore....

eazy_mas
01-05-2008, 11:27 AM
Technically if Bhutto had got into power, she wouldn't have needed musharrafs help for anything, his not the chief of the army anymore....

well she cant be in power because she already been there twice so they need to change the constution for that which is pretty hard under this circumstance.

And she does need Musharraf because he controls the military and if he goes away he could cause alot of choas. espically with India threat and the Tribal area which lead to another Iraq. at least they need someone to replace him and it not an outside force

Parody
01-05-2008, 11:40 AM
I am a Pakistani Citizen, and my family has been involved in Politics, It is all a very a dirty game. The reason why Musharaf and ISI (Agency) got her killed is because she was trying to save her own country by bringing democracy. I mean Bhutto said she does'nt care if she dies in the process of saving her own country, she was quoted saying that...and it happened. Its not Musharraf, it should be Busharraf...Al Qaeda are the sort of people that dont give a **** about anyone and dont fear anyone. Even they admitted that that had nothing to do with it, and trust me if they did they would admit it no one can do **** all to them, they have admitted in the past for what they have done and got away with it but they said they had no reason behind the Assassination of Bhutto. The army has totally ruined our country, first East Pakistan AKA Bangladesh got seperated from us because of the ****ing Army, then the Whole Kashmir Issue, then Zia Ul Haq assassinated the greatest leader of our country, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, Then Musharraf Suspending the whole Consitution, 1400+ people getting killed in the Red mosque Siege, Bringing in Martial Law twice - once while his own goverment is in power (Dumb cunt)

Parody
01-05-2008, 11:40 AM
Technically if Bhutto had got into power, she wouldn't have needed musharrafs help for anything, his not the chief of the army anymore....

Its all a game...The current Chief of army is selected by Musharraf...he is like his slave/works for him.

eazy_mas
01-05-2008, 02:54 PM
I am a Pakistani Citizen, and my family has been involved in Politics, It is all a very a dirty game. The reason why Musharaf and ISI (Agency) got her killed is because she was trying to save her own country by bringing democracy. I mean Bhutto said she does'nt care if she dies in the process of saving her own country, she was quoted saying that...and it happened. Its not Musharraf, it should be Busharraf...Al Qaeda are the sort of people that dont give a **** about anyone and dont fear anyone. Even they admitted that that had nothing to do with it, and trust me if they did they would admit it no one can do **** all to them, they have admitted in the past for what they have done and got away with it but they said they had no reason behind the Assassination of Bhutto. The army has totally ruined our country, first East Pakistan AKA Bangladesh got seperated from us because of the ****ing Army, then the Whole Kashmir Issue, then Zia Ul Haq assassinated the greatest leader of our country, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, Then Musharraf Suspending the whole Consitution, 1400+ people getting killed in the Red mosque Siege, Bringing in Martial Law twice - once while his own goverment is in power (Dumb cunt)

well many of the tribal area would want there woman to be there leader. That is damn good reason to kill her. as well as she is Shia makes it a bonus for them and more incentive than Musharraf case.

but Musharraf lied about the thing could be not to stir up more volience between the people.

Musharraf did do many good thing in Pakistan like bring some stablitiy before all this happen and less and less of the tribal people are having power.

Musharraf got nothing to gain from killing Bhutto as well as he worked with her before and made her PM. and for people who think she is a savouir of Pakistan they should rethink about the corruption charges and look further if it true or not as well as she had her chance in office x2 too.

fasman
01-05-2008, 04:32 PM
well she cant be in power because she already been there twice so they need to change the constution for that which is pretty hard under this circumstance.

And she does need Musharraf because he controls the military and if he goes away he could cause alot of choas. espically with India threat and the Tribal area which lead to another Iraq. at least they need someone to replace him and it not an outside force

if musharraf was not the president, and someone else or even if bhuttos party got into power, why would they need musharraf, what help would he be....

I mean after he'd give up his presidency, he'd probably have no influence on the army...

The threat from India has always been there, but its not been that serious in recent years, you never know what's gonna happen but India don't really wanna engage in war and neither do we, India know we have major nuclear power....

So not many countrys are gonna try to engage in war because we have nuclear power and more importantly they have no reason to.... U.S.A needs us and we need them. U.K has nothing to do with anything...

We need democracy and musharraf has taken all that away... Bhutto promised democracy but she was killed....

fasman
01-05-2008, 04:38 PM
well many of the tribal area would want there woman to be there leader. That is damn good reason to kill her. as well as she is Shia makes it a bonus for them and more incentive than Musharraf case.

but Musharraf lied about the thing could be not to stir up more volience between the people.

Musharraf did do many good thing in Pakistan like bring some stablitiy before all this happen and less and less of the tribal people are having power.

Musharraf got nothing to gain from killing Bhutto as well as he worked with her before and made her PM. and for people who think she is a savouir of Pakistan they should rethink about the corruption charges and look further if it true or not as well as she had her chance in office x2 too.

Her husband was a corrupt knobhead and still is....

The charges held against her were only charges they were not proven conclusive...

Being a woman has jack **** to do with anything, if she could bring back democracy and help the poor, then they would elect her...

Musharraf has done **** all to help the people of pakistan, since he has arrived the poor are getting more poor and the rich getting more rich..

Prices are getting sky high, some people cannot afford to live..

People in Pakistan don't really care about stability too much if there are dying of hunger......

For some politics does not come first, trying to make it to the next day alive is more important....

Parody
01-06-2008, 04:03 AM
well many of the tribal area would want there woman to be there leader. That is damn good reason to kill her. as well as she is Shia makes it a bonus for them and more incentive than Musharraf case.

but Musharraf lied about the thing could be not to stir up more volience between the people.

Musharraf did do many good thing in Pakistan like bring some stablitiy before all this happen and less and less of the tribal people are having power.

Musharraf got nothing to gain from killing Bhutto as well as he worked with her before and made her PM. and for people who think she is a savouir of Pakistan they should rethink about the corruption charges and look further if it true or not as well as she had her chance in office x2 too.

He has done what? Like kill a good leader in Nawab Akbar Bugti for Gas? 2 years back he assasinated another great leader called Akbar Bugti of the Balochistan province, People think of Bugti as a hero in pakistan and Musharraf killed him, the whole story was when one of the Army general raped a Balochi woman and Bugti as a balochi leader stood up for his people and challenged Musharraf, Balochistan has Sui Gas, thats the province that provided the whole of Pakistan gas and it was owned by Bugti. So they killed him to take over...

eazy_mas
01-07-2008, 04:44 AM
He has done what? Like kill a good leader in Nawab Akbar Bugti for Gas? 2 years back he assasinated another great leader called Akbar Bugti of the Balochistan province, People think of Bugti as a hero in pakistan and Musharraf killed him, the whole story was when one of the Army general raped a Balochi woman and Bugti as a balochi leader stood up for his people and challenged Musharraf, Balochistan has Sui Gas, thats the province that provided the whole of Pakistan gas and it was owned by Bugti. So they killed him to take over...

well those ****ers even raped other tribes woman so it like that. Karma is a *****.

Tribal groups usally use the law of the jungle the weaker tribe alway get attacked by the stronger tribe. It not like people havent notice it but Islam came at first and demolished this ideology but it came back somewhere

Makaaveli
01-08-2008, 10:05 AM
Why did Naz Fan get banned? You need someone like that around here tbh...