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he clowns on Deck's verse from Triumph, bad idea considering that one verse is better than EVERYTHING 50's released after Get Rich or Die Tryin

50 cent and GZA should not be mentioned in the same sentence.

You cant hate on 50 all you want.

But he is street smart and knows how to make money. Moreso than any rapper in history.

If any of these Wu guys minus Rae, Ghostface, and Meth were any smart, they would actually make money with their supposed 'talent'.

But they're not smart.

You cant hate on 50 all you want.

But he is street smart and knows how to make money. Moreso than any rapper in history.

If any of these Wu guys minus Rae, Ghostface, and Meth were any smart, they would actually make money with their supposed 'talent'.

But they're not smart.

50 can actually articulate if you watch interviews he is intelligent or at least more so then you would except from someone in a "Guerilla Unit"

He knows how to market himself.

All the guys who bag and hate on him should read his book.

He's not a bad businessman. But, honestly, anyone in his situation would have had amazing circumstances to begin with. In all honestly, he has only one formula, and judging by reviews AND sales, it's slowly beginning to fail.

You cant hate on 50 all you want.

But he is street smart and knows how to make money. Moreso than any rapper in history.

If any of these Wu guys minus Rae, Ghostface, and Meth were any smart, they would actually make money with their supposed 'talent'.

But they're not smart.


Well Im not addressing the other member of Wu here but I am talking about 50 Cent.


Is this the defnition of "smart" that is in place in the world now? hmm

I suppose according to that definition Paris Hilton is smarter than a published professor of Physics who dosen't have anywhere near as much money as she does.

Yet the value of this definition of "smart" depends on whether or not your priority in life is to inflate your self as large as you can or to inspire other people.

It's not that more people don't know how to play the game that 50 cent is playing, it's just that many have no desire to.

You cant hate on 50 all you want.

But he is street smart and knows how to make money. Moreso than any rapper in history.

If any of these Wu guys minus Rae, Ghostface, and Meth were any smart, they would actually make money with their supposed 'talent'.

But they're not smart.

That's because they're not trying to sell out by making songs about money and hoes and doing new dance moves.

50 Cent bagging on one of the best verses ever is pretty damn lame, considering, as the threadstarter said, that verse is better than anything 50's done.

"I bomb automically, Socrates philosophies and hypotheses
Can't define how I be droppin these mockeries
Lyrically perform armed robbery
Flee with the lottery, possibly they spotted me
Battle scarred Shogun, explosive when my pen hits
Tremendous, ultra violet shine blind forensics
I inspect view through the future see millenium
Killah beez sold 50 gold, 60 platinum
Shacklin the masses with drastic rap tactics
Graphic displays melt the steel like blacksmiths
Black Wu jackets Queen Beez ease the guns in
Rumblin patrolmen tear gas laced the function
Heads by the score, take flight, incite a war
Chicks hit the floor, diehard fans demand more
Behold the bold soldier, control the globe slowly
Proceeds to blow swingin swords like Shinobi
Stomp grounds I pound footprints in solid rock
Wu got it locked, Performin live on you hottest block"

You cant hate on 50 all you want.

But he is street smart and knows how to make money. Moreso than any rapper in history.

If any of these Wu guys minus Rae, Ghostface, and Meth were any smart, they would actually make money with their supposed 'talent'.

But they're not smart.

being "street smart" and making money does not make a good rapper. for discussions sake, let's agree that he is street smart - so what? what is he doing for you to feel the need to stick up for that *******? he's taking your money and laughing his ass to the bank to cash it.

50 cent has some balls to talk about one of the pioneers of the game like that. scratch balls and add ignorance.

wtf is on about dissing gza's age. 50 needs to learn to respect his goddamn elders. if there weren't ever cats like gza, 50 would be pennyless. wtf? does 50 think he's never going to be old. dude needs to learn how to hold his tongue. if he did, maybe he would actually think of something creative.

this is just another reason why i smack kids for supporting 50 cent. these young kids don't know what the hell they doing.

Well Im not addressing the other member of Wu here but I am talking about 50 Cent.


Is this the defnition of "smart" that is in place in the world now? hmm

I suppose according to that definition Paris Hilton is smarter than a published professor of Physics who dosen't have anywhere near as much money as she does.

Yet the value of this definition of "smart" depends on whether or not your priority in life is to inflate your self as large as you can or to inspire other people.

It's not that more people don't know how to play the game that 50 cent is playing, it's just that many have no desire to.

excellent post. many of the younger kids these days that grow up listening to half-assed hip hop couldn't articulate a thought like that.

He knows how to market himself.

All the guys who bag and hate on him should read his book.

we ain't buying ****. i only support real hip hop - not the image of a person you want to be. the image of a person who seems to try to make being uneducated and ghetto the thing to be. if you love him so much, you support him. i bet you aren't even on commision for throwing that **** in here.

50 Cent bagging on one of the best verses ever is pretty damn lame, considering, as the threadstarter said, that verse is better than anything 50's done.


agreed and agreed.

Talent and all that aside. Gza is hating. Flat out you can't say he isn't. Just like when 50 talks **** about other people he's hating. So why is Gza getting a pass? Because he's underground? Yeah right. I'm a fan of Wu and all but that last album is not good at all.

Plus a lot of these old rappers are just bitter as hell.

Im not a fan of 50s music but the way he does business? LEGENDARY. I wanna be like him.

I don't give a **** if he's a business man, if you put Donald Trump on a mic, I guess he should be a legend too because he's a good business man. Some of you people are so ****ing stupid.

I listen to hip hop for enjoyment of the music, I don't give a god damn about how they do business.

As long as they can spit, then its all good.

I don't give a **** if he's a business man, if you put Donald Trump on a mic, I guess he should be a legend too because he's a good business man. Some of you people are so ****ing stupid.

I listen to hip hop for enjoyment of the music, I don't give a god damn about how they do business.

As long as they can spit, then its all good.

Yeah but Doanld Trump's product isn't a scam. The difference between a scam artist and a business man is being blurred nowadays.

He knows how to market himself.

All the guys who bag and hate on him should read his book.

If you spent money on his book, which probably isn't written by Curtis Jackson, and almost defiantly doesn't contain true details, then you should be in a perfect position to tell us: what it is 'Fiddy' does that makes people, such as yourself, buy his lacklusture stuff?

50 cent was funny as **** on this interview. yeah, he was disrespectful, but i couldn't help, i laughed my ass off, he called gza a scientist after he babbled his verse from killer beez. that hit had me rolling. 50 is actually very funny when he disses people in interviews, funny as hell. he asked in an interview one time about lloyd from murder inc, "don't the boy lloyd look like one of santa's helpers?" i cracked the **** up after i heard that **** for like 2 minutes nonstop.

Cold World>>>50's entire career including power of the dollar and all the dope freestyles pre-GRODT