Alright guys 1st post here. :newbie:

Just been reading over a couple of threads, and some of you guys are funny as f*ck.

Anyways i thought f*ck the reading, time to start posting. That is all... :banana:

Ayup pal, hows it goin, where abouts you from?

Cheers mate. I'm from sunny old Manchester. Lol Sheffield Wednesday...good luck. You think you will go down? :D.

**** I am pissed.... bleedin straight Rum all night.

**** I am pissed.... bleedin straight Rum all night.



:beerchug: Southern Comfort and Coke...it cannot be beaten.:beerchug:

Hows it going

wts poppn bud.....

hello buddy love the sig but hate the av. :fing02:

Ayup matey.....im pretty new to these boards aswell....although not a big poster im gonna contribute a bit more to the Limey board......

Im gonna second the hatred for the avi though:thumbsdow

Cheers everyone.

msagrain and black.ink, its OK to be jealous every now and then, it happens to the best, lol. It must be a bitter pill to swallow looking back black ink. lmao just joking. Anyway Stoke are doing well this season...Stoke in the Premiership? who knows.

Welcome buddy! Your team are playing some football at the moment.

Cheers everyone.

msagrain and black.ink, its OK to be jealous every now and then, it happens to the best, lol. It must be a bitter pill to swallow looking back black ink. lmao just joking. Anyway Stoke are doing well this season...Stoke in the Premiership? who knows.

i hope they do well :D jealous of what lol? last time we played you we beat you 3-1 hehe.

Cheers everyone.

msagrain and black.ink, its OK to be jealous every now and then, it happens to the best, lol. It must be a bitter pill to swallow looking back black ink. lmao just joking. Anyway Stoke are doing well this season...Stoke in the Premiership? who knows.

Lol

Looks like our new limey pal has a ****in screw loose haha

Lol

Looks like our new limey pal has a ****in screw loose haha

do 1 tuggers lol we are 3rd in the championship.

Welcome buddy! Your team are playing some football at the moment.

Cheers mate. Yep we are doing well, plus we still got guys like Scholes to come back and Saha to hit top form, i am hoping for the Champions League this year.

Rangers have been unlucky though, i wanted them to get through to the knockout stages. But you have got a tough draw in the Uefa.

Stoke in the Premiership....maybe not. Lol.

Alright guys 1st post here. :newbie:

Just been reading over a couple of threads, and some of you guys are funny as f*ck.

Anyways i thought f*ck the reading, time to start posting. That is all... :banana:

Welcome buddy.

As for your Av......lets leave it there I think.

Maybe too early to tell.....but i had my money on united from the beginning of the season and i reckon it was money well spent!

As for the Champions League........Real Madrid are looking comfortable in La Liga i won't be suprised if they go all the way.

Aimed at MickyHatton

1-0
1-0
1-0
1-0
1-0

Bit late, I know but still oh so sweet.

utd are going to do it this year. champions league and premiership at least.
:banana:

ronaldo to win worlds best player award next season.

utd are going to do it this year. champions league and premiership at least.
:banana:

ronaldo to win worlds best player award next season.

I personally cant see us not winning any major tropy left. We have easily the best team in the world and how the **** didn't Ronaldo get world player of the year.

I personally cant see us not winning any major tropy left. We have easily the best team in the world and how the **** didn't Ronaldo get world player of the year.

Perhaps but you haven't won anything yet so......

If you don't win anything then you need to ask yourself why, I mean Benitez is under fire for spending big but not as yet delivering, United who won the League last season still spent far more than Liverpool in the Summer so in reality you should have the best team in the World shouldn't you?

People criticise Chelsea for buying the league, Utd aren't far behind in reality.

Didn't Liverpool spend over £40 million this summer?, and 4th in the Premiership lol. I see your point with the money, but didn't Chelsea spend something ridiculous like £300 million in 4 years?.

Ouch! West Ham come out from nowhere and put a dent in the title race!!!

As for Ronaldo's World Player of the Year claims.....a penalty miss today was a mighty low blow for the result.

Didn't Liverpool spend over £40 million this summer?, and 4th in the Premiership lol. I see your point with the money, but didn't Chelsea spend something ridiculous like £300 million in 4 years?.


Yep Liverpool paid over 40 mil for 8 players and we are being judged against that.

However Utd already had players bought in like:

To name a few

Saha 12.5 mil
Rooney 30 mil
Ferdinand 28 mil
Carrick 16 mil
Ronaldo 12.2 mil


You added 3 in the summer for over 50 mill in Hargreaves, Nani and Anderson then did a deal for Tevez which could cost up to around 30 mil so....shouldn't Utd be expected to win the league?

Liverpool have spent big but no where near the amount Man U and Chelsea have.

Haven't Utd done it for years?

Van Nistelroy 19 mil
Veron 28.1 mil

Lets just be honest about this, Utd are a great side within a huge club but the success was built around longevity and trust in Ferguson, a good youth system (which has dwindled as have other teams i.e. Liverpool) and a huge wad of cash.

In the early 90's Utd splashed out big (relative to the period) on the likes of Keane, Pallister, Cole, Yorke and Cantona etc so it not as difficult as it sounds to work out.

Liverpool and Benitez have spent fairly big this season however haven't most of the top half, look at West Ham, Tottenham, Everton and City etc.

My point is you laugh at us spending 40 mil + and only being in 4th, yet the season is not yet over and Benitez is attempting to build a solid foundation around young players.

Ferguson took 7 years to gain success, Benitez has won three trophies in three and a half seasons so far including the big one and has been consistently around the top four.
I remember Ferguson being days away from the sack in his early time at United simply because the team was struggling near the bottom of the division.

Ferguson and Utd have done brilliantly and I as a football fan will not attempt to detract from the achievements however money has played as big a part as anything else throughout the success, this was facilitated by the influx of revenue created by the Premiership and the Champions League.

Great Club, but you had your success at the right time in football history and now aside from the odd Russian Billionaire there is no way any other side can compete financially.

Micky, what is your opinion on Benitez's rotation policy?

Micky, what is your opinion on Benitez's rotation policy?


Well, at first i marvelled at its uniqueness, but then later thought that it could easily be refined.

Firstly, i would change the name of the team to "Sheffield Wednesday FC". Then, secondly, i would move the team to Sheffield, and play my games at Hillsborough. Thirdly - i would exchange all the players in the team for that of the now defunct former Sheffield Wednesday.

Thus placing the current championship side SWFC at there rightful place in the premiership and the Liverpool squad somewhere in the lower league playing Stoke everyweek for the next 5 years.
















Oh...... you meant MickyHatton.........




i'll **** off then.. :lurk:

You have some points about the money side of it.

But up until the Glazers United were a PLC, and self sustaining with great profits year in year out, of you have got the money, why not spend it.

What would you rather see 4 teams spending money and battling for the title, or manutd romping away with the title year in year out.

I was not criticising Liverpool, i was just saying United are not the only team spending big.

But you cannot say that in the last couple of years, the quality of football from Liverpool has not increased dramatically, due to financial investment (same goes to Chelsea).

You cannot say Uniteds sucess was solely based on money during the nineties, hardly any money was spent in that time and United won the league many times with kids. It was only to the close of the last millenium and after it that the big spending really became apart of it, which has been a trend with lots of clubs around the world.

LMAO!!!

Great idea i like it, i like it a lot. Liverpool in the championship lol.

Great signature as well lol.:D

drink, drink, wherever you may be
we are the drunk and disorderly
we don't give a **** and we done give a ****
united coming home with the european cup.

thank you please

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Hello!! Hello!! We Are The Wednesday Boys!!
Aaaaand If You Are United!
Surrender Or You'll Die!
Cos We All Follow The Wednesday!

Park, Park Wherever he may be,
Eating dogs in your own country,
Could be worse,
Could be scouse,
Eating rats in your council house.

WE ARE WEDNESDAY.
SUPER WEDNESDAY
GOT NO MONEY
WE DON'T CARE
HATE THE PIGGIES
SHOOT THE BASTARDS
WE WILL CHASE THEM
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for the record, Piggies: Sheff Utd.

Ever heard of Ryan Gyaki, Mick?

Ever heard of Ryan Gyaki, Mick?

**** you *****, you don't belong here.

My old man said be a city fan;
I said bollocks you're a cunt;
I'd rather shag a bucket with a big hole in it,
then be a City fan for just one minute...

When i was young,
i had no sense,
I bought a flute, for 50 pence
the only songs
thats i could play
was **** THE BLADES
AND THE IRA

WE ALL HATE LEEDS SCUM
WE ALL HATE LEEDS SCUM!!

Fight, fight wherever you may be,
we are the boys from the Black Country,
and we'll beat you all wherever you may be,
cause we are the boys from the Black Country!

He plays on the left...
He plays on the right...
That boy Ronaldo,
Made England look ****e.

Micky, what is your opinion on Benitez's rotation policy?

Hate it mate, I would rather have the best team out there week in week out and draw on the squad when needed. I'm yet to be convinced that Rafa will ever be the one to bring League success to Liverpool.

You have some points about the money side of it.

But up until the Glazers United were a PLC, and self sustaining with great profits year in year out, of you have got the money, why not spend it.

What would you rather see 4 teams spending money and battling for the title, or manutd romping away with the title year in year out.

I was not criticising Liverpool, i was just saying United are not the only team spending big.

But you cannot say that in the last couple of years, the quality of football from Liverpool has not increased dramatically, due to financial investment (same goes to Chelsea).

You cannot say Uniteds sucess was solely based on money during the nineties, hardly any money was spent in that time and United won the league many times with kids. It was only to the close of the last millenium and after it that the big spending really became apart of it, which has been a trend with lots of clubs around the world.

My original point was that Utd should be expected to win the league based on the money they have spent.

I didn't say the success was built solely on money, I said it played a big part.
Yes, Utd in the 90's had many young players but they also had many big name signings ala Keane, Pallister, Cantona, Cole and Yorke etc. The team had a smattering of kids, its not as if Fergie put out the youth team!

Also I disagree about your comment about the quality of football due to financial investment about Chelsea? They went from a top six side to the best team in the country almost overnight so...

My original point was that Utd should be expected to win the league based on the money they have spent.

I didn't say the success was built solely on money, I said it played a big part.
Yes, Utd in the 90's had many young players but they also had many big name signings ala Keane, Pallister, Cantona, Cole and Yorke etc. The team had a smattering of kids, its not as if Fergie put out the youth team!

Also I disagree about your comment about the quality of football due to financial investment about Chelsea? They went from a top six side to the best team in the country almost overnight so...

Eh?

How did they do that?, through financial investment from Abramovich.

United didn't spend as much as you are making out during the nineties in comparison to all the other top clubs.

The success in the nineties was mainly down to the youngsters of United.

Remember the quote "You will never win anything with kids". that team was practically the youth team (Beckham Giggs & CO).

Yes and my original point was that United aren't the only team spending lots of money.

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Eh?

How did they do that?, through financial investment from Abramovich.

Remember the quote " You will never win anything with kids". that team was practically the youth team (Beckham Giggs & CO).

Yes and my original point was that United aren't the only team spending lots of money.

The quote was by a TV pundit???, Micky is bang on. Yes Utd had some kids in the side but they also bought big. So whats your point?

Beckham, Scholes, Butt and Neville played sporadically until they were eventually undroppable, Giggs was an ever present but they were intertwined into a team of bought in stars.

If your saying that Utd's success hasn't been down to money as much as anything else then you are deluded.

Welcome BTW.

That Dean Windass is some player, isn't he Mickey.

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Eh?

How did they do that?, through financial investment from Abramovich.United didn't spend as much as you are making out during the nineties in comparison to all the other top clubs.

The success in the nineties was mainly down to the youngsters of United.

Remember the quote "You will never win anything with kids". that team was practically the youth team (Beckham Giggs & CO).

Yes and my original point was that United aren't the only team spending lots of money.

Apologies I misread your original comment :o

However, again yes you had many young players in the side but they were integrated with bought in super stars.
Alan Hansen made a flippant remark, its become a tag line, it doesn't tell the full story though.

Utd have spent more money on a year to year basis than any other side.

The quote was by a TV pundit???, Micky is bang on. Yes Utd had some kids in the side but they also bought big. So whats your point?

Beckham, Scholes, Butt and Neville played sporadically until they were eventually undroppable, Giggs was an ever present but they were intertwined into a team of bought in stars.

If your saying that Utd's success hasn't been down to money as much as anything else then you are deluded.

Welcome BTW.

Did you go tonight? If so thoughts?

That Dean Windass is some player, isn't he Mickey.

aye, i've always rated him. if you'd have asked me to pick out who the dangerous players on the pitch from both teams, i'd have put Dean in the top 3 for definate.

the Owls are breaking my heart at the moment, atleast we got a game in hand (which is the reason i'm just scared at being in the bottom three, instead of petrified.).

We'll be ok though. The wednesday are survivors. We'll get mid-table this season and get two wins off Sheff Utd.

Come on you blue and white wizards!

Did you go tonight? If so thoughts?

Yes mate, we were lucky!!! We spent most of the game with ten men behind the ball.

But for Dunn we would have lost by four or five.

I was disappointed that we acted like the away side but I understand it, we have done well but we still cannot complete with your lot in a straight footballing match therefore a point is a result.

The quote was by a TV pundit???, Micky is bang on. Yes Utd had some kids in the side but they also bought big. So whats your point?

Beckham, Scholes, Butt and Neville played sporadically until they were eventually undroppable, Giggs was an ever present but they were intertwined into a team of bought in stars.

If your saying that Utd's success hasn't been down to money as much as anything else then you are deluded.

Welcome BTW.

You and Micky are making it sound like United were the only team that spent any money in the nineties. Who are the bought stars?. Cantona from Leeds, Yorke from Villa, Cole from Newcastle, Keane from Forest, is that it?.

How many titles had United won before Yorke and Cole arrived?. I was saying compared to other teams United wasn't spending that much more.

You and Micky are making it sound as if you think all the success of United in the 90's was purely down to money, when at least half the team was homegrown.

Since the turn of the Millenium United haven't been the only team to spend money have they?

Did United go out and do what Chelsea did and what City did?, go out and buy a brand new team?, no have the team was from the academy.

aye, i've always rated him. if you'd have asked me to pick out who the dangerous players on the pitch from both teams, i'd have put Dean in the top 3 for definate.

the Owls are breaking my heart at the moment, atleast we got a game in hand (which is the reason i'm just scared at being in the bottom three, instead of petrified.).

We'll be ok though. The wednesday are survivors. We'll get mid-table this season and get two wins off Sheff Utd.

Come on you blue and white wizards!

It was a brilliant freekick though. I can't believe he is still playing these days. Its not looking good for your team lately, they were saying on Skysports news that they have been on a right terrible run. I don't think you will go down though.

It was a brilliant freekick though. I can't believe he is still playing these days. Its not looking good for your team lately, they were saying on Skysports news that they have been on a right terrible run. I don't think you will go down though.

Its still early days yet (i haven't seen the goal yet).

We're in a spell of rotten luck. We play hard and with heart and passion, but the goals just never come.

Problem is, every season, we sell all our best players and buy in new blood.

All well and good, but the team finds itself readjusting for the first 2 or 3 months of the season, so we end up ****ing losing every match for the first 12 weeks. We started to get used to each other, and the injuries began to pour in.

Dean Windass has still got it. I don't begrudge him the goal, from what i hear, Hull deserved to win today - so fair enough.

We need to play better and we need a chairman (ours walked out a month ago)...we need big investment and lots of money. The fan base is there, we just need someone to support the team as much as we do.

You and Micky are making it sound like United were the only team that spent any money in the nineties. Who are the bought stars?. Cantona from Leeds, Yorke from Villa, Cole from Newcastle, Keane from Forest, is that it?.

How many titles had United won before Yorke and Cole arrived?. I was saying compared to other teams United wasn't spending that much more.

You and Micky are making it sound as if you think all the success of United in the 90's was purely down to money, when at least half the team was homegrown.

Since the turn of the Millennium United haven't been the only team to spend money have they?

Did United go out and do what Chelsea did and what City did?, go out and buy a brand new team?, no have the team was from the academy.


I'm not saying United bought the league, they didn't, go back and read my original post but they have always bought big, since the Millennium and prior to the Millennium.

You made a comment about the amount Liverpool had spent, I retorted by stating that United have always spent big and continue to do so.

You and Micky are making it sound like United were the only team that spent any money in the nineties. Who are the bought stars?. Cantona from Leeds, Yorke from Villa, Cole from Newcastle, Keane from Forest, is that it?.

How many titles had United won before Yorke and Cole arrived?. I was saying compared to other teams United wasn't spending that much more.

You and Micky are making it sound as if you think all the success of United in the 90's was purely down to money, when at least half the team was homegrown.

Since the turn of the Millenium United haven't been the only team to spend money have they?

Did United go out and do what Chelsea did and what City did?, go out and buy a brand new team?, no have the team was from the academy.

No United didn't buy a team like Chelsea did but they have continually bought bigger than most, admit that!

Man Utd were paying 20 mill plus long before Chelsea ever did.

As for City, we have bought fairly big (again not even in Man U's league) and mixed them with young players, exactly what Utd did.

Don't make out Ferguson drafted 11 youth players because he didn't, Scholes, Beckham, Butt, Sharp and Neville etc where 20+ before they were established. Giggs was different. All those players were mixed with bought in talent.

Alright guys 1st post here. :newbie:

Just been reading over a couple of threads, and some of you guys are funny as f*ck.

Anyways i thought f*ck the reading, time to start posting. That is all... :banana:

Welcome buddy.

Cheers Celtic.

Yes United spent more than other teams in Premiership in the nineties, but they was also blended into a good mixture of academy players and other players.

My point was that United didn't buy the league which is what i thought you were saying when you said that comment about me being deluded. < But i think we have closed this debate now.

Since the turn of the millenium the money factor has been more significant in United's transfer policy, and many other teams. United have spent big, but now they are not the only team spending big.

On your original point Micky it looked like you were saying that United have bought the league with the money they have spent. I was merely only pointing out that United are not the only team that have spent lots of money in recent years.

I hope we cleared that one up.

Its still early days yet (i haven't seen the goal yet).

We're in a spell of rotten luck. We play hard and with heart and passion, but the goals just never come.

Problem is, every season, we sell all our best players and buy in new blood.

All well and good, but the team finds itself readjusting for the first 2 or 3 months of the season, so we end up ****ing losing every match for the first 12 weeks. We started to get used to each other, and the injuries began to pour in.

Dean Windass has still got it. I don't begrudge him the goal, from what i hear, Hull deserved to win today - so fair enough.

We need to play better and we need a chairman (ours walked out a month ago)...we need big investment and lots of money. The fan base is there, we just need someone to support the team as much as we do.

GOAL OF THE MONTH!

I don't think you will go down...

Still it could be worse you could be a Leeds fan:banana: .