Fedor?? ..

The prodigy. BJ Penn.

Of right now, Anderson Silva


In the history of MMA i would say Rickson Gracie

The prodigy. BJ Penn.
LOL, yeah, agreed, considering his 11-4-1 record, including losses to Jens Pulver and losses to the two best fighters he's faced.

We're asking for the best, not the one with most potential.

The answer is Fedor, Anderson Silva is climbing that ladder quickly though.

Of right now, Anderson Silva


In the history of MMA i would say Rickson Gracie
Based on what do you rate Rickson that high? His 11-0 record against nobodies?

He was a better version of Royce Gracie, in other words just a grappler. Someone like Chuck Liddell with a good takedown defense and standup would destroy him.

Hard to say.

Best P4P Active Fighter is Anderson and best Inactive fighter in my opinion is Fedor.

sorry bout that my brother posted under my name.

i'd have 2 best P4P of all time I'd say Rickson Gracie, no question.
rickson in his prime would beat fedor imho.
just no way anyone last on the ground against him.


nowadays i'd say its a toss up between GSP and Anderson Silva.
or
as a wild card i'll even throw in Matt Serra, yup i said Matt Serra, proved he can knock someone out on his feat an sure as hell can handle himself on the ground, if he keeps trainin the way he's been trainin i think he'll reclaim his belt an hold it for awhile.

of course i would have to go with my favorite fighter gsp.

Such a young crazy sport to really agree on one person.
No way its Penn, and not Fedor. Not yet anyway. Like it or not Liddell gets a mention, for me Frank Shamrock, and A Silva.

The prodigy. BJ Penn.

That's like saying Vitor Belfort is the best because of what he is capable of doing. No one should doubt the Fedor is the p4p best!

Like I had mentioned before, this is a hard debate cause what do you want to base our decisions on? Past fight performances or of individuals these so called best P4P fighters have beaten? Or perhaps it is on their popularity or how much money they can draw to pay-per-view dollars?


For me, I based my decisions on the following: Performance and consistency to win!

LOL, yeah, agreed, considering his 11-4-1 record, including losses to Jens Pulver and losses to the two best fighters he's faced.

We're asking for the best, not the one with most potential.

The answer is Fedor, Anderson Silva is climbing that ladder quickly though.

Those two fighters were matt hughes and GSP, both guys that are much bigger then Penn.

the GSP bout is also highly disputed. And Penn was beating the **** out of hughes. He came into the ring with a broken rib.

But nice try, Peetie.

Anderson Silva no doubt, he's the first real UFC/mma star. Fedor is good but I'm sure he's beatable, all his competition is slow though.

That's like saying Vitor Belfort is the best because of what he is capable of doing. No one should doubt the Fedor is the p4p best!

**** fedor, hope his ranking goes down with his small competition in m1.

Those two fighters were matt hughes and GSP, both guys that are much bigger then Penn.

the GSP bout is also highly disputed. And Penn was beating the **** out of hughes. He came into the ring with a broken rib.

But nice try, Peetie.Dumb ****, he broke his rib in the second round, he didn't come into the ring with it.

Nobody who can score a fight scored it for Penn against GSP either.

And still, what has he done to prove he is the best besides lose to bigger fighters?

Dumb ****, he broke his rib in the second round, he didn't come into the ring with it.

Nobody who can score a fight scored it for Penn against GSP either.

And still, what has he done to prove he is the best besides lose to bigger fighters?

Check out his body of work at pride, numb nuts.

Anderson Silva no doubt, he's the first real UFC/mma star. Fedor is good but I'm sure he's beatable, all his competition is slow though.

Dan Henderson > Anderson Silva

Dan Henderson > Anderson Silva

Agreed. That guy is a monster. Whos camp is he in??? Is it MFS?

Dumb ****, he broke his rib in the second round, he didn't come into the ring with it.

Nobody who can score a fight scored it for Penn against GSP either.

And still, what has he done to prove he is the best besides lose to bigger fighters?

There is a rumour that he came into the ring with that.

Also a rumour that he took the fight on short notice. Actually it is not a rumour, it's FACT.

Get a life, Pete.

Too much time on boxing forums is ruining your brain. 28 posts per day on here, and on countless other forums. You probably average 40 posts a day, son.

Get out and experience life a little!!

:)

Fedor.


Rickson Gracie is a Myth.

Anderson Silva

"The Spider" is truly a beast
www.dailymotion.com/search/spider+silva/video/x3umtt_the-spider-20-by-hipnotik_extreme
Here is a good highlight of his career.

Agreed. That guy is a monster. Whos camp is he in??? Is it MFS?

Team quest in Portland with Lindland and company. Former home of Couture before he moved to Vegas.

some dude named the spider

Im saying who is the best EVER not now Anderson is now but i think
Fedor is the best Ever.

The Gracie family are the best past fighters, but now its a toss up between GSP , Anderson Silva and Rampage Jackson.

The best ever is Fedor due to the level of competition he has defeated.

A lot of people seem to be overrating Anderson Silva. He is up there for the best p4p now, but the best ever. Come on Frank Shammrock must be infront of him. I think Dan Henderson and maybe even Mat Lindland would push him all the way.

As for the best now, a few that come to mind are Anderson Silva, GSP (even though he lost to Serra), Rampage (deserves a mention due to his last 2 wins) and Kid Yamamoto is supposed to be class but i dont think i have seen him enough to shout his cause.

The best ever is Fedor due to the level of competition he has defeated.

Circus freak fighters dont count.

Wanderlei Silvaaa or Quinton Jackson.. not theyre just my faVS

honestly probably nick diaz or some other small person youd never expect

The best ever is Fedor due to the level of competition he has defeated.

A lot of people seem to be overrating Anderson Silva. He is up there for the best p4p now, but the best ever. Come on Frank Shammrock must be infront of him. I think Dan Henderson and maybe even Mat Lindland would push him all the way.

As for the best now, a few that come to mind are Anderson Silva, GSP (even though he lost to Serra), Rampage (deserves a mention due to his last 2 wins) and Kid Yamamoto is supposed to be class but i dont think i have seen him enough to shout his cause.

good point~!

Circus freak fighters dont count.

You must be joking, nobody comes close.

id say captain america
but for those sayin the gracie one word: sakuraba

"but for those sayin the gracie one word: sakuraba"
Royce beat him, as will Rickson if its true he decided 2 fight in March or April.

You must be joking, nobody comes close.

READ WHAT I REPLIED IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!:bottle:

Royce Gracie, Ken Shamrock in his prime.

Royce Gracie, Ken Shamrock in his prime.

hahahahahahaha

READ WHAT I REPLIED IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!:bottle:

Circus freak fighters dont count.

I read it dickhead, and you were miles out.

I read it dickhead, and you were miles out.

Circus freak fighters are what Fedor fights..his real legit fighters he fought in my mind and possibly everyone else's mind were crocop and Nog the rest were washed up and freaks....get it ****face?????? yeah imature but ****...you seeem special...

Mark Hunt, Mark Coleman x 2, Nog x 2, Crocop, Kazuyuki Fujita, Gary Goodridge, Semmy Schilt, Ricardo Arona, Renato Sobral, Heath Herring, Tsuyoshi Kohsaka.....and others.

The thread is asking on the best ever, not the best over the last year.

Hong Man Choi would beat most in the heavyweight division by the way.

Mark Hunt, Mark Coleman x 2, Nog x 2, Crocop, Kazuyuki Fujita, Gary Goodridge, Semmy Schilt, Ricardo Arona, Renato Sobral, Heath Herring, Tsuyoshi Kohsaka.....and others.

The thread is asking on the best ever, not the best over the last year.

Hong Man Choi would beat most in the heavyweight division by the way.

hahahahaha shows how much u know bud.:loser:

hahahahahahaha
what dude? Ken Shamrock beat Dan "the beast" Severn. Did you watch the Octogon back in the 1990's???

what dude? Ken Shamrock beat Dan "the beast" Severn. Did you watch the Octogon back in the 1990's???

Yes.......yes I did..... but that dont mean Kenny aint the best P4P fighter ever. lol

Fedor and Silva would probably be my two choices. I'd give a mention to Rampage too

Fedor and Silva would probably be my two choices. I'd give a mention to Rampage too

your all fools....Fedor plus Anderson Silva are in Weak Divisions. There is no way A.Silva would be able to hang with the 205lbs guys...niether would Fedor...Because we all know the man can make weight, he would get beat by one of the UFC LHWs.....Big UFC fan but not a nuthugger, that is just where the top fighters are right now ya heard.

1. Fedor
2. Couture
3. Rampage
4. St Pierre
5. Anderson Silva

1. Fedor
2. Couture
3. Rampage
4. St Pierre
5. Anderson Silva

overrated fedor.

overrated fedor.

Why dont you post your list?

Why dont you post your list?

My list includes 2 fighters.

True top P4P fighters in the world.
Georges St Pierre
BJ Penn

Fedor or Cro Cop aint on the list, nither is Nog...they dont seem themselves bud.

My list includes 2 fighters.

True top P4P fighters in the world.
Georges St Pierre
BJ Penn

Fedor or Cro Cop aint on the list, nither is Nog...they dont seem themselves bud.

BWAHAHAHAHAH LOL ^^^ :lol1: :lol1: :rofl:

BJ Penn has lost 3 out of his last 5 Fights, this list is not about your favourite fighters, its the P4P List.

I agree St Pierre deserves to be there though

Fedor is number 1

Yes.......yes I did..... but that dont mean Kenny aint the best P4P fighter ever. lol
Ok, that's cool. but who do you think is? I see it like this....I know it is totally different, but it's just to prove a point..cool beans?

In the dog world, it has been said the Rottweiler is "pound-4-pound" the ultimate fighting dog. Stronger than the Akita, with a greater "lbs per square inch" bite than any Terrier, EXCEPT, the Red line American Pitt Bull. The agility of the Pitt makes for an under approach to lock on the Rottweilers throat.

That is a known fact. I Ain't saying the Pitt will "ALWAYS" lock on the Rottweiler, but 8 times out 10...The Pitt Bull is P4P.

Ken Shamrock = American Red Nose Pitt Bull.

BWAHAHAHAHAH LOL ^^^ :lol1: :lol1: :rofl:

BJ Penn has lost 3 out of his last 5 Fights, this list is not about your favourite fighters, its the P4P List.

I agree St Pierre deserves to be there though

This guy has took out some good competition and one day will no doubt be classed as one of the all time greats

But at present he is only 2 wins and 2 losses in UFC title fights. I think its a little early to be calling him the best p4p fighter ever.

BWAHAHAHAHAH LOL ^^^ :lol1: :lol1: :rofl:

BJ Penn has lost 3 out of his last 5 Fights, this list is not about your favourite fighters, its the P4P List.

I agree St Pierre deserves to be there though

Yes He did lose...who doesnt? At least he fought tougher competition than Fedor has. If Fedor fights more Top Fighters, i might respect him more.

I can't say Fedor or really any heavyweight fighter for that matter cause quite frankly I don't find any of those guys to be nearly as skilled as the lower weight divisions. The list of guys you listed for Fedor even though I haven't watched alot of his fights isn't that damn impressive.

I can't say Fedor or really any heavyweight fighter for that matter cause quite frankly I don't find any of those guys to be nearly as skilled as the lower weight divisions. The list of guys you listed for Fedor even though I haven't watched alot of his fights isn't that damn impressive.

.............Amen