We're not talking Roy Jones, so matter how vigorously he claimed it in his song. And we're not talking the guy with the best chin neccessarily. We're talking about the guy, who, whether due to chin, recooperation and savvy, or just pure defensive skills, was the fighter you simply can't see being stopped at his weight.

There are quite a few for me: Hagler, Monzon, Robinson, Ali, Whitaker, Mayweather, Gavilan, Greb, Hopkins, Toney, Pryor, maybe a few more.

Whatcha think?

Although Chuvalo and 'Tex' Cobb were stopped I doubt many could knock them out.

I think anyone can be stopped past their prime (Ali, Whitaker, Robinson, Pryor from that list were) but some of the guys would probably never be truly knocked out, maybe stopped on injuries and cuts but not KO'd.

A great defensive fighter like Whitaker is almost impossible to knock out. Even Tito couldn't do it when Whitaker was coked up and past his prime so I doubt anyone could.

Ali could take any shot and recover. Frazier wore him down with bodyshots for 15 rounds and hit him with a flush left hook, knocked him down and Ali got up after 2 seconds. He took hits from Shavers, Foreman and Liston, so I doubt he could be KO'd.

Robinson was knocked down many times but was never out. He actually started fighting even harder when he was hurt. The only time he was stopped in his long career was against a LHW because of exhaustion.

Hagler's head was a rock. Hearns hit as hard as anyone and when he punched Hagler his right hand broke.

i think james toney should be on that list!!

i think james toney should be on that list!!

Toney too he went up from middleweight to heavyweight and was never stopped and hardly ever knocked down legitimately (once by Reggie Johnson and the humiliating KD against RJJ, the Peter knockdown wasn't much). His defensive skills and his hard head make him almost unstoppable.

But if he keeps fighting past his prime someone is eventually going to stop him. Toney should just quit.

No one's unstoppable. Thats my two cents.

:)

Marvin Hagler.

No one's unstoppable. Thats my two cents.

:)

That's no fun. Atleast we can argue about who is the MOST unstoppable.

i think james toney should be on that list!!

Yup, one I forgot.

No one's unstoppable. Thats my two cents.

:)

So who do you think could stop Hagler or Monzon at MW?

So who do you think could stop Hagler or Monzon at MW?

Uhh Hagler could stop Monzon and vice versa. No one is unstoppable not named Rocky Marciano.

jones at 160 and 168, hell even at 175 in his prime he was unstoppable. Ali was unstoppable but he eventually got stopped, leonard was unstoppable but he eventually got stopped.

jones at 160 and 168, hell even at 175 in his prime he was unstoppable. Ali was unstoppable but he eventually got stopped, leonard was unstoppable but he eventually got stopped.

We're talking in their primes. I'd take Bob Foster or Michael Spinks to stop Jones at 175.

Uhh Hagler could stop Monzon and vice versa. No one is unstoppable not named Rocky Marciano.
We're talking stop as in finish the fight, as in T/KO the other fighter. Neither Hagler or Monzon could finish the other, I guarantee you that. Marciano would've been stopped by many HW's as well. But I have a feeling you're just trying to rile me up like you do everyone else so I'll leave it alone after this post, unless you post something intelligent.

Please dont speak on Monzon and Hagler like you have actually followed their careers. :)

Please dont speak on Monzon and Hagler like you have actually followed their careers. :)

They both went the distance many times and were never stopped.
Because of that I would say a clash between them would end in a decision as well.

Also Marciano was almost stopped on cuts against Ezzard Charles. But he was truly hard to knock out.

Please dont speak on Monzon and Hagler like you have actually followed their careers. :)

Please don't speak on boxing like you have actually followed it. :)

Please don't speak on boxing like you have actually followed it. :)

....says the 16 year old. :)

They both went the distance many times and were never stopped.
Because of that I would say a clash between them would end in a decision as well.
Azteca is a troll, he always does this, no matter what he is posting about or who he is posting to. He got throughly owned by it one time as well.

Azteca is a troll, he always does this, no matter what he is posting about or who he is posting to. He got throughly owned by it one time as well.

smoke and mirrors kid.

I see through all the bull**** kid. you type as if you are no younger than 18.

Dont act like you are some expert because you have read a few articles and copied word for word what some established writers like monte cox and fleischer have said.

Thanks bud. :)

smoke and mirrors kid.

I see through all the bull**** kid. you type as if you are no younger than 18.

Dont act like you are some expert because you have read a few articles and copied word for word what some established writers like monte cox and fletcher have said.

Thanks bud. :):lol1: Awwww, did I touch a nerve widdle Azteca?

This coming from the same guy who tried to impress a forum of men by giving a BS record of his rating on a website, and then posted a picture of an NHL player to try and pass as himself.:lol1:

You've owned yourself enough for this lifetime Azteca. My suggestion, other than suicide, would be to simply restart with a new account, and shut the hell up until you've learned something. Kay thanks.

Lol...

Marvin Hagler was the only unstoppable fighter. LMAO at Azteca saying that the undersized Marciano wouldn't get KTFO by most of the al time top 5 HWs.

Lol...

Marvin Hagler was the only unstoppable fighter. LMAO at Azteca saying that the undersized Marciano wouldn't get KTFO by most of the al time top 5 HWs.

As it is you can not talk about "lasting" dominance in HW devision, while guys like Louis and Marciano were great they are simply too small for the behemots of the modern era.

As it is you can not talk about "lasting" dominance in HW devision, while guys like Louis and Marciano were great they are simply too small for the behemots of the modern era.

I don't think Louis was too small his weight went from 200 to 220 which is quite normal for a heavyweight, he was also 6'2. Ibragimov, Tyson and Holyfield are about the same size.

Louis would obviously have trouble with bigger and better heavyweights like Ali, Lewis, Foreman, maybe Wlad but he could still compete at a high level.

But Marciano would have big trouble with todays heavyweights, he would probably be a light heavyweight or a cruiserweight today.
Fights like Toney vs Marciano and RJJ vs Marciano are the kind of fights people should discuss about rather than Marciano vs Lewis/Wlad/Tyson.

As it is you can not talk about "lasting" dominance in HW devision, while guys like Louis and Marciano were great they are simply too small for the behemots of the modern era.

That's why I directed my LMAO at Azteca Warrior. *****.

Lol...

Marvin Hagler was the only unstoppable fighter. LMAO at Azteca saying that the undersized Marciano wouldn't get KTFO by most of the al time top 5 HWs.
As I said, Azteca is likely mentally handicapped, we can't be too hard on him, though nor can we take him too seriously.

As a locomotive that cannot be stopped in his tracks you gotta go with the human punching bag George Chuvalo. He was never once knocked off his feet. When he was past his prime and got stopped by Forman in the 4rth round, it wasnt the ref but his manager that stopped the fight. Chuvalo's qoute "What are you nuts!". That says it all.

As far as nobody being able to beat them. Although it may look like a believe everything the media says, keep in mind, I am in the media. I have to go with Mayweather Jr. His record says it all. 39 have tried, 39 have said they would beat him, yet like record is 39-0. He has beaten the opponents that were infront of him and thats all a fighter can do. Some may say that he hasnt fought anbody. I will give you a list of notable fighters he has beaten. One's that were top in their day.

1. Tony Pep, W10
2. Angel Manfredy Ko2
3. Diego Corrales Ko10
4. Jose Luis Castillo W12 (twice)
5. Arturo Gatti Ko6
6. Zab Judah W12
7. Oscar De La Hoya W12
8. Ricky Hatton Ko10

Keep in mind I am not a Mayweather fan, but the record says it all. All of those a very credible fighters. Some may question Pep, but keep in mind Floyd was only 21 when he beat an former #1 ranked fighter.

As a locomotive that cannot be stopped in his tracks you gotta go with the human punching bag George Chuvalo. He was never once knocked off his feet. When he was past his prime and got stopped by Forman in the 4rth round, it wasnt the ref but his manager that stopped the fight. Chuvalo's qoute "What are you nuts!". That says it all.

As far as nobody being able to beat them. Although it may look like a believe everything the media says, keep in mind, I am in the media. I have to go with Mayweather Jr. His record says it all. 39 have tried, 39 have said they would beat him, yet like record is 39-0. He has beaten the opponents that were infront of him and thats all a fighter can do. Some may say that he hasnt fought anbody. I will give you a list of notable fighters he has beaten. One's that were top in their day.

1. Tony Pep, W10
2. Angel Manfredy Ko2
3. Diego Corrales Ko10
4. Jose Luis Castillo W12 (twice)
5. Arturo Gatti Ko6
6. Zab Judah W12
7. Oscar De La Hoya W12
8. Ricky Hatton Ko10

Keep in mind I am not a Mayweather fan, but the record says it all. All of those a very credible fighters. Some may question Pep, but keep in mind Floyd was only 21 when he beat an former #1 ranked fighter.
I don't agree that he is unbeatable, but unstoppable nowadays, yes.

Lol...

Marvin Hagler was the only unstoppable fighter. LMAO at Azteca saying that the undersized Marciano wouldn't get KTFO by most of the al time top 5 HWs.

I'm going on facts, kid.

I mentioned Marciano because he is the only undefeated fighter. I misread the thread.

Actually I skimmed through it b/c it's ****e.

I'm going on facts, kid.

I mentioned Marciano because he is the only undefeated fighter. I misread the thread.

Actually I skimmed through it b/c it's ****e.LOL, the mental midget calls everyone who disagrees with him(which is almost literally everyone) a kid to make him feel better about himself.

What is "****e" about the thread, other than the fact that I made it and that you infected it with your nonsense?

I'm going on facts, kid.

I mentioned Marciano because he is the only undefeated fighter. I misread the thread.

Actually I skimmed through it b/c it's ****e.

Says the guy who thinks Ike Ibeabuchi would UD Ali.

LMAO.

Nothing, really. It's a decent thread.

I just dont like you discussing the sport when all you are typing out is regurgitated opinions you've read on other message boards and articles. Dont act like dont know what i'm talking about, either.

Smoke and mirrors kid./

Says the guy who thinks Ike Ibeabuchi would UD Ali.

LMAO.

lol @ Nan. Nice try.

Nothing, really. It's a decent thread.

I just dont like you discussing the sport when all you are typing out is regurgitated opinions you've read on other message boards and articles. Dont act like dont know what i'm talking about, either.

Smoke and mirrors kid./
Ask me something about boxing that is not commonly discussed on message boards. I must have a great memory to be able to commit everything I've read on all of these topics. Do you realize how lame you sound? Do you realize how lame you actually are?

If I got everything I read from message boards, it would be kind of hard for me to argue my own opinion as much as I do, considering I disagree with a lot of what goes on on these boards. Again, do you realize how lame you are?

Ask me something about boxing that is not commonly discussed on message boards. I must have a great memory to be able to commit everything I've read on all of these topics. Do you realize how lame you sound? Do you realize how lame you actually are?

Smoke and mirrors kid. All I have to say. I've caught you doing this before, remember?

Smoke and mirrors kid. All I have to say. I've caught you doing this before, remember?
Nope, sure don't.

But I see what you're trying to do already, you're trying to turn some bull**** on me because I always bring up you getting owned so badly in the Lounge by playing off someone else as your picture, and then when embarassingly called out, you acted like it was all a joke. :lol1:

Nope, sure don't.

But I see what you're trying to do already, you're trying to turn some bull**** on me because I always bring up you getting owned so badly in the Lounge by playing off someone else as your picture, and then when embarassingly called out, you acted like it was all a joke. :lol1:

i'm sure ya dont, sweetie.

Anyway, continue to try and impress the board with your knowlege their, champ.

Leave the actual debate to the real men on board. Thanks.

Ask me something about boxing that is not commonly discussed on message boards. I must have a great memory to be able to commit everything I've read on all of these topics. Do you realize how lame you sound? Do you realize how lame you actually are?

If I got everything I read from message boards, it would be kind of hard for me to argue my own opinion as much as I do, considering I disagree with a lot of what goes on on these boards. Again, do you realize how lame you are?

Khaosai Galaxy.

I've kinda been into him lately. What do you think of Khaosai, besides the awesome name which automatically merits a ATG ranking?

i'm sure ya dont, sweetie.

Anyway, continue to try and impress the board with your knowlege their, champ.

Leave the actual debate to the real men on board. Thanks.

Pete actually knows his ****, from what I've read. Of course not more than me... but well, that would go for pretty much everybody.

Pete actually knows his ****, from what I've read. Of course not more than me... but well, that would go for pretty much everybody.

No he doesn't. He goes on other boards and copies and pastes from articles.

Ever wonder why he takes so long whenever he tries to chat boxing??? But now, he is replying real fast and writing paragraph's.

Watch him try and deny this, also.

:)

He's probably googling that Galaxy name as we speak. heh heh lol lol

The only way to gain knowledge is to gain knowledge...
I can't really blame anyone for actually looking for information on boxers/boxing in general. Not everyone was born in 1902.

He's probably googling that Galaxy name as we speak. heh heh lol lol

I'm watching some youtubes on him as we speak. They're **** quality though. And I can't find any good downloads.

Interesting fighter, though.

He's probably googling that Galaxy name as we speak. heh heh lol lol

Lol, it HAS taken a long time...

C'mon, Pete! I defended you, now make me proud!

I'm watching some youtubes on him as we speak. They're **** quality though. And I can't find any good downloads.

Interesting fighter, though.

I've, admittedly, never heard of him. I take it he was a lower weights fighter??

I've, admittedly, never heard of him. I take it he was a lower weights fighter??

Yeah. Amazing puncher- he had some ridiculous power. It's cool to say when you don't know about a fighter, though. I hate when people try to act like know-it-alls. I take it that's your problem with Pete?

Yeah. Amazing puncher- he had some ridiculous power. It's cool to say when you don't know about a fighter, though. I hate when people try to act like know-it-alls. I take it that's your problem with Pete?

Yeah thats my problem with him. He's conning alot of the guys here, lol lol. I used to be the same way and did my research to make myself look smart.

I wasn't smart like I said, I just looked it.

I dont need to debate like that anymore either. The knowledge is all in my head. Ya dig.

Yeah thats my problem with him. He's conning alot of the guys here, lol lol. I used to be the same way and did my research to make myself look smart.

I wasn't smart like I said, I just looked it.

I dont need to debate like that anymore either. The knowledge is all in my head. Ya dig.

YOU dig, mother****er. I bury.

I been watching Eubanks lately btw. He's got some crazy skills. Almost look like he's doing karate or something out there.

I've, admittedly, never heard of him. I take it he was a lower weights fighter??

Probably the greatest super flyweight in the history of boxing.
But super flyweights haven't been around for too long and there isn't that much competition. Maybe someone who knows more about the lighter divisions may know more about the division's history.

Galaxy fought mostly in his home country Thailand and finished his career with a record of 49 wins (43 by KO) and 1 loss. Yes he lost only once on points and that was when he was just starting as a pro. He held the WBA title for 8 years from 84 to 92. Didn't lose for 11 years.

I've watched a few of his matches and he is pretty exciting. But you could criticize him for not fighting outside his homeland and because he never tried to unify the titles.

Probably the greatest super flyweight in the history of boxing.
But super flyweights haven't been around for too long and there isn't that much competition. Maybe someone who knows more about the lighter divisions may know more about the division's history.

Galaxy fought mostly in his home country Thailand and finished his career with a record of 49 wins (43 by KO) and 1 loss. Yes he lost only once on points and that was when he was just starting as a pro. He held the WBA title for 8 years from 84 to 92. Didn't lose for 11 years.

I cant get into the lower weights. 122 and below and my knowledge is shoddy at best.

I been watching Eubanks lately btw. He's got some crazy skills. Almost look like he's doing karate or something out there.

11th and 12th of Watson-Eubank. How crazy were those rounds?

Nuts. Eubank is a beast. If it wasn't for the lisp, he would be pretty cool.

No he doesn't. He goes on other boards and copies and pastes from articles.

Ever wonder why he takes so long whenever he tries to chat boxing??? But now, he is replying real fast and writing paragraph's.

Watch him try and deny this, also.

:)Yeah, it's amazing how some articles have answers to people's exact questions and how they get into debates with themselves so good that I can just copy and paste them into a debate with someone else. Some great articles out there.

As for Kaynan and Khaosai Galaxy. Sorry to say, but Galaxy is tremendously overrated for me. Not only was is competiton(though not terrible, as some of his opponents, though not known or elite, were very good fighters) subpar for an ATG, but his fighting style in general. Very lackadaisical, which only works on sub-par competition that he faced, which hands raised similar to hands of a muay thai fighter, which is understandable, given where he's from.

He was simply too lazy and lacked too many qualities to cut it against other greats near his weight I would say. He did have tremendous power though, which cut it against the comp he was facing, but I don't see anything in the footage I've seen of him that leads me to believe he was an elite fighter.

Yeah, it's amazing how some articles have answers to people's exact questions and how they get into debates with themselves so good that I can just copy and paste them into a debate with someone else. Some great articles out there.

As for Kaynan and Khaosai Galaxy. Sorry to say, but Galaxy is tremendously overrated for me. Not only was is competiton(though not terrible, as some of his opponents, though not known or elite, were very good fighters) subpar for an ATG, but his fighting style in general. Very lackadaisical, which only works on sub-par competition that he faced, which hands raised similar to hands of a muay thai fighter, which is understandable, given where he's from.

He was simply too lazy and lacked too many qualities to cut it against other greats near his weight I would say. He did have tremendous power though, which cut it against the comp he was facing, but I don't see anything in the footage I've seen of him that leads me to believe he was an elite fighter.


lol lol. There's your answer, Kaynan.

A whole hour later.

Love ya, Peetie.

I cant get into the lower weights. 122 and below and my knowledge is shoddy at best.

I'd say Heavyweight and below your knowledge is shoddy at best.

It took a long time because I was off the computer by the way Kaynan. I thought this argument was done, which is why I popped off for a bit to watch some of a movie.

Kaynan. He spelled it out for you.

Listen to this man...err....I mean kid.

Anyway, Kaynan, IBRO's got Galaxy at #22 on the all time bantamweight list.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeJnVLskjuM
Here's a cool Khaosai Galaxy match that ends in a knockout.
It's rather short but it's clearer than most of his other matches.

Galaxy's best weight was at JBW, at 115, where he arguably ranks #1, more due to the lack of any competition than anything I'd say though.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeJnVLskjuM
Here's a cool Khaosai Galaxy match that ends in a knockout.
It's rather short but it's clearer than most of his other matches.

That's one of the vids I'm talking about. While immensely lazy early on due to his sub-par opponent, even when he does start to open up, pressure, and throw hard shots, he still lacks the defense, technique, and overall boxing ability to get it done at the world level, which is why he never fought outside of his area. I see many guys around his weight beating him.

Galaxy's best weight was at JBW, at 115, where he arguably ranks #1, more due to the lack of any competition than anything I'd say though.

Of course it was his best weight; he held his only title there. And the division was re-introduced in 1979 after failing miserably before that.So he was basically the first great champ- most fighter never ventured to that weight class until much later.

Of course it was his best weight; he held his only title there. And the division was re-introduced in 1979 after failing miserably before that.So he was basically the first great champ- most fighter never ventured to that weight class until much later.
I was more responding to Azteca when he posted about Galaxy being rated #22 at 118, which is pretty much irrelevant. I just didn't wanna quote him to hear more of his bull****.

I was more responding to Azteca when he posted about Galaxy being rated #22 at 118, which is pretty much irrelevant. I just didn't wanna quote him to hear more of his bull****.

Cool. I didn't see all of those other posts...

It's got to be Mayweather. People who say Ali aren't really thinking to clearly, he was beaten by Frazier, Spinx, Norton and Holmes (he should never have fought with Holmes). He was probably the greatest heavyweight but he wasn't unstoppable.

Foreman seemed like he was after destroying Frazier and Norton incredibly easy but Ali out classed him.

Mayweather appears to be unstoppable in my opinion.

Ike Ibeabuchi

Marvelous Marvin

It's got to be Mayweather. People who say Ali aren't really thinking to clearly, he was beaten by Frazier, Spinx, Norton and Holmes (he should never have fought with Holmes). He was probably the greatest heavyweight but he wasn't unstoppable.

Foreman seemed like he was after destroying Frazier and Norton incredibly easy but Ali out classed him.

Mayweather appears to be unstoppable in my opinion.

Why not try reading the thread?

Marvin Hagler seems like the best choice. Maybe even David Tua or Oliver McCall.:fing02:

It's got to be Mayweather. People who say Ali aren't really thinking to clearly, he was beaten by Frazier, Spinx, Norton and Holmes (he should never have fought with Holmes). He was probably the greatest heavyweight but he wasn't unstoppable.

Foreman seemed like he was after destroying Frazier and Norton incredibly easy but Ali out classed him.

Mayweather appears to be unstoppable in my opinion.

ali lost to those you listed OUT of his prime, but during the 60s he was untouchable. I agree, hagler was mr. unstoppable.

Sweet Pea,is that you?

Sweet Pea,is that you?Sure is, I responded to another post of yours already. High on Fritzie Zivic still eh?

ali lost to those you listed OUT of his prime, but during the 60s he was untouchable. I agree, hagler was mr. unstoppable.

After losing to Frazier and Norton he still managed to come back and beat Foreman who looked to be unstoppable. I wouldn't exactly say Ali was out of his prime when he lost to Frazier or Norton, thus why I don't think he was unstoppable.

After losing to Frazier and Norton he still managed to come back and beat Foreman who looked to be unstoppable. I wouldn't exactly say Ali was out of his prime when he lost to Frazier or Norton, thus why I don't think he was unstoppable.

as fast as frazier was he wouldnt catch him in his prime, ali could dance all 15 rounds in his prime, and against norton he was coasting and not taking norton seriously. He lost to those 2 after his layoff for a few years, so no it wasnt his prime.

Chris Eubank, Wayne McCulloch, Rocky Marciano, Marvin Hagler, Carlos Monzon, Muhammad Ali and Pernell Whitaker all spring to mind.

The way terry Norris gets up at 9 from the shots julian Jackson hits him with is unbelieveable, hes spark out yet comes round and beats the count

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The way terry Norris gets up at 9 from the shots julian Jackson hits him with is unbelieveable, hes spark out yet comes round and beats the count

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Is he really worth mentioning in a thread about unstoppable fighters? The guy had a glass chin.

Your choices in the previous post were excellent though, particularly McCullough and Eubank.

Chris Eubank. End of.

Is he really worth mentioning in a thread about unstoppable fighters? The guy had a glass chin.

Your choices in the previous post were excellent though, particularly McCullough and Eubank.

Yeah I see your point mate I was just impressed with how he got up from murderous shots.
Cheers for comments regarding McCullough and Eubank , those two had 'Rocky' style chins.

Ray Mercer, till he was 41, took some good shots from Lewis, Holyfield, Witherspoon, Damiani, Morrison.
David Tua, still yet to touch the canvas in 53 fights, against Lewis, Ibeabuchi, Rahman, Maskaev, Moorer.

We're not talking Roy Jones, so matter how vigorously he claimed it in his song. And we're not talking the guy with the best chin neccessarily. We're talking about the guy, who, whether due to chin, recooperation and savvy, or just pure defensive skills, was the fighter you simply can't see being stopped at his weight.

There are quite a few for me: Hagler, Monzon, Robinson, Ali, Whitaker, Mayweather, Gavilan, Greb, Hopkins, Toney, Pryor, maybe a few more.

Whatcha think?
LES DARCY, his defensive skills were either incredible or he was the toughest son of a ***** of them all. Darcy was never even knocked down let alone stopped in 50 fights. Yeah he's in the mix.

Johnny Tapia. Good defense (when he remembered it) and a simply unbelievable chin and desire to win.

Also: What's with all these ancient threads getting bumped?

Hector Camacho