I just got the toughest win of my career in chess.
Crazy match. The momentum changed in the match with almost every move.
I would **** up and make a mistake, then he would **** up and make a mistake.
It was crazy.
I mated him with 1:17 left on my clock, he had 1:09 on his clock.
I'm now rated a 62. I think that's the highest rating I've ever achieved.
I was a 47 going into the match, he was a 33. Good ****, ****er.

Before that match I had a tune up match against some Guest.
He came out wrecklessly and it some of his **** shocked me, but after I hit him a few times, I took control.
Very spirited effort, but it was a case of a amateur vs. a pro.

You shoulda been there.

here we go with chess again

Chess is probably the greatest board game of all time.

i just keep getting the feeling this is some strange inside joke

i just keep getting the feeling this is some strange inside joke

No. I love chess.
No joke.

I love lamp.

I love lamp.

What's that?

What's that?

An electrical appliance.


Say, Jack, do you like the girl in my avatar?

An electrical appliance.


Say, Jack, do you like the girl in my avatar?

Yeah. But what do you mean by like?

Yeah. But what do you mean by like?

Don't play games with me, Jack.


I will neuter you.

Don't play games with me, Jack.


I will neuter you.

you can play chess with him though but you might lose i hear hes good

One of the betht.

o u have a lithpe

First off I wanna thank my Pinoy brothers for letting me and my friend Jack host this thread in their great lounge. We could have been anywhere in the forum, but we're here with you guys.

Jack- I get the feeling that you're a more deliberate, thoughtful player? IDK if defensive is the word. Not that I know much about the tactics of chess... just that it seems like you refer to guys trying to muscle you rather than you doing the muscling.

ALso, LMAO at Jada thinking this is about chess.

First off I wanna thank my Pinoy brothers for letting me and my friend Jack host this thread in their great lounge. We could have been anywhere in the forum, but we're here with you guys.

Jack- I get the feeling that you're a more deliberate, thoughtful player? IDK if defensive is the word. Not that I know much about the tactics of chess... just that it seems like you refer to guys trying to muscle you rather than you doing the muscling.

ALso, LMAO at Jada thinking this is about chess.

lmao at u talking about ****ing each other in the ass and u believing me
i love cheth its how we keep warm in russia
w/e ur on some kinda lame power trip on the internet

lmao at u talking about ****ing each other in the ass and u believing me
i love cheth its how we keep warm in russia
w/e ur on some kinda lame power trip on the internet

Believing you about what?

Believing you about what?

...that i thought u were talking about chess silly
i no ur not talking about what i posted here either

...that i thought u were talking about chess silly
i no ur not talking about what i posted here either

Oh, so you never even believed we were talking about chess for real?

lol i had like a 5 minutes discussion on the "parallels between chess and boxing" but its really fun to look oblivious sometimes

ha u dickhead is that y u made this thread

lol i had like a 5 minutes discussion on the "parallels between chess and boxing" but its really fun to look oblivious sometimes

ha u dickhead is that y u made this thread

This thread is about chess. I don't know what you're on about, Jada. Seriously.

"I can definitely see how boxing is similar to chess.
There's a counter for every move.
Doing the wrong move can cost you big.
As the game wears on, there are alot more openings.
Things you had available early on my not be available to you later on.
And you gotta do certain things that put you in a position to think of what your opponent is gonna do next"

.:fing26: :rofl:
lmao u think im stupid

This thread is about chess. I don't know what you're on about, Jada. Seriously.

i thought id be funnier if i waited a few days and let u make a big deal out of it or something
plz tell me ur not that big of a f.ag

also i have pw to any part of this site

how r u gonna say its not about chess then 2 seconds later change ur mind lol

gotta work on getting my openings bigger u no its like i cant go diagnol with the rook and i cant just bash rite through the pawn so i gotta widen it out

i thought id be funnier if i waited a few days and let u make a big deal out of it or something
plz tell me ur not that big of a f.ag

also i have pw to any part of this site

how r u gonna say its not about chess then 2 seconds later change ur mind lol

gotta work on getting my openings bigger u no its like i cant go diagnol with the rook and i cant just bash rite through the pawn so i gotta widen it out

I was just messing with you when I said it's not about chess. This was the exact reaction that I expected to get out of you. I wanted to throw you off and make you look like a fool. You said that you knew it wasn't about chess all along; It was. I maneuvered you into saying a statement which made you look dumb.

Verbal chess. Jack, what do you think of my skills, *****?

I was just messing with you when I said it's not about chess. This was the exact reaction that I expected to get out of you. I wanted to throw you off and make you look like a fool. You said that you knew it wasn't about chess all along; It was. I maneuvered you into saying a statement which made you look dumb.

Verbal chess. Jack, what do you think of my skills, *****?

my names mike

my names mike

Do you still think it's not really about chess?

Say yes and I'll drop dead.

my names mike

I was talking to Jack, Mike. But thank you for telling me your name.

Verbal chess, baby.

u havent really accomplished much when ur real vague and talking with heavy sexual inuendos then change ur mind whenever the person disagrees whether theyre talking about chess or whatever

i think talking about chess and saying good game ****er just speaks for itself
drop dead? you promise?

u havent really accomplished much when ur real vague and talking with heavy sexual inuendos then change ur mind whenever the person disagrees whether theyre talking about chess or whatever

Are you talking about when I said that I would **** the guy in Underboss' avatar, yesterday?

That was me, son.

i think talking about chess and saying good game ****er just speaks for itself
drop dead? you promise?

So you DO think it's about chess?

I just got the toughest win of my career in chess.
Crazy match. The momentum changed in the match with almost every move.
I would **** up and make a mistake, then he would **** up and make a mistake.
It was crazy.
I mated him with 1:17 left on my clock, he had 1:09 on his clock.
I'm now rated a 62. I think that's the highest rating I've ever achieved.
I was a 47 going into the match, he was a 33. Good ****, ****er.

Before that match I had a tune up match against some Guest.
He came out wrecklessly and it some of his **** shocked me, but after I hit him a few times, I took control.
Very spirited effort, but it was a case of a amateur vs. a pro.

You shoulda been there.


oh no you guys are sooo confusing i dont even know what i think, wait.......:lame:
obv. i think the word chess has only been mentioned here once without any description of anyone actually playing chess.

oh no you guys are sooo confusing i dont even know what i think, wait.......:lame:

What do you think? Seriously- I'm interested to know this. Alot of my immediate future hinges on this. Serious. Are you being sarcastic and saying that it's OBVIOUSLY boxing?

Also, LMAO at this guy saying I haven't accomplished anything. I have more than 8,000 posts, dude. I'm awesome.

oh no you guys are sooo confusing i dont even know what i think, wait.......:lame:
obv. i think the word chess has only been mentioned here once without any description of anyone actually playing chess.

Oka, your edit explains it. It's not really about chess, then. Koo.

What do you think? Seriously- I'm interested to know this. Alot of my immediate future hinges on this. Serious. Are you being sarcastic and saying that it's OBVIOUSLY boxing?

Also, LMAO at this guy saying I haven't accomplished anything. I have more than 8,000 posts, dude. I'm awesome.

oh, so u realized now we can both be vague and speak in double entendres and hop up and down, back and forth even when it gets kind of heated?

the whole "im turning to my friend but talking about this guy" thing doesnt really work online

Oka, your edit explains it. It's not really about chess, then. Koo.

i didnt say this wasnt about chess

Wtf........

You still think I'm gay?

this is about chess.am i crazy, and go off the handle at the slightest hint of someone trying to **** with me? am i just ****ing with you and drinking coffee right now? yes and no. but definatley both, but usually not. always no. do i think this is about chess? read the whole thread over from the beginning, then read it backwards.then recite it orally to your third grade class by assembling them on classMATEfinder.com, and see what they think. also read "the perks of being a wallflower" and youll understand by the 5th chapter. am i trying to look gullible and just make you waste your time reading this? well, an early bird catches the worm. this is not about chess, at all. read the first sentence again to explain.

Lol... You're crazy, man. Crazy.

<Lol>

You still think I'm gay?

well, like i said, we're hopping back and forth and up and down, but ur the one getting all hot and bothered.

hey guys, just got back from work. what are you guys talking about? chess?

Jack, I want the points from this thread. Fubu boy.

Jack, I want the points from this thread. Fubu boy.

i made this thread i should get it

i made this thread i should get it

Jack is an actual "real life" friend of mine. Somehow I doubt that you're him.

Jack is an actual "real life" friend of mine. Somehow I doubt that you're him.

i knew u hos would be friends.
i mean i made this thread what it is

all u did was lick each others ass while telling eachother how top notch you are, i put the work in around here

tell me u wernt entertained at least or amused

this is about chess.am i crazy, and go off the handle at the slightest hint of someone trying to **** with me? am i just ****ing with you and drinking coffee right now? yes and no. but definatley both, but usually not. always no. do i think this is about chess? read the whole thread over from the beginning, then read it backwards.then recite it orally to your third grade class by assembling them on classMATEfinder.com, and see what they think. also read "the perks of being a wallflower" and youll understand by the 5th chapter. am i trying to look gullible and just make you waste your time reading this? well, an early bird catches the worm. this is not about chess, at all. read the first sentence again to explain.

****ing lunatic

****ing lunatic

ive read ur posts dude at least im just making this up without even thinking u prob put time into urs

****ing lunatic

He's crazy, man. I'm outta here.

ive read ur posts dude at least im just making this up without even thinking u prob put time into urs

I spent all day dreaming up that Mayweather/X-Ray Vision thread

I spent all day dreaming up that Mayweather/X-Ray Vision thread

whatever neone with a sense of humor on here has said some **** they dont mean, i was just emphasing the sheer stupidity of this thread by posting nonsense, but that wasnt the first post on here that makes no sense

I spent all day dreaming up that Mayweather/X-Ray Vision thread

thats pretty funny.
didnt you give some narraration of a day you had a while back if im not mistaken

There is nothing difficult to understand about this thread.

There is nothing difficult to understand about this thread.

im the one being confusing and talking nonsense.
seriously i no, its about chess im just ****ing with you relaxx
lol u guys must be worried

do u have to pay to change your headline like how mine says contender

im the one being confusing and talking nonsense.
seriously i no, its about chess im just ****ing with you relaxx
lol u guys must be worried

do u have to pay to change your headline like how mine says contender

Who told you? ****ing Kayjay, man...

And yes. Go to the VBPLAZA.

Who told you? ****ing Kayjay, man...

And yes. Go to the VBPLAZA.

ive never talked to kayjay before, but u no this.

300 views lol spread the word

wow another 100 in 30 min.

whatever neone with a sense of humor on here has said some **** they dont mean, i was just emphasing the sheer stupidity of this thread by posting nonsense, but that wasnt the first post on here that makes no sense

..........................
with that just so you know after about my 3rd post on this thread i hit the point of no return and could not turn back or stop.

if u guys are really talking about chess how come your not really talking about chess at all and the only implication to this even being about chess was jack saying so i was playing chess and that was about it, i mean cmon discuss playing chess then if thats what its about instead of being all secretive

wait are u talking about playing kaynan in chess, that would make a wholeee lot more sense. i just didnt get y ud be talking about it in the first place unless thats y

..........................
with that just so you know after about my 3rd post on this thread i hit the point of no return and could not turn back or stop.

if u guys are really talking about chess how come your not really talking about chess at all and the only implication to this even being about chess was jack saying so i was playing chess and that was about it, i mean cmon discuss playing chess then if thats what its about instead of being all secretive from the start, with a thumbs down and entitled kaynan without even mentioning him once lol

I thought you said you knew it was about chess?

..........................
with that just so you know after about my 3rd post on this thread i hit the point of no return and could not turn back or stop.

if u guys are really talking about chess how come your not really talking about chess at all and the only implication to this even being about chess was jack saying so i was playing chess and that was about it, i mean cmon discuss playing chess then if thats what its about instead of being all secretive

wait are u talking about playing kaynan in chess, that would make a wholeee lot more sense. i just didnt get y ud be talking about it in the first place unless thats y

I never played him in chess..

But this IS about chess. Remember that.

I thought you said you knew it was about chess?

i dont know either of you, and if you read this you could interpret it anyways you want, until i realized im pretty sure hes saying hes playing you in chess. it just didnt make any sense why he would be talking about it. but if hes talking about playing you i can see that. whatever i mean if im wrong and this isnt about chess than ill be a man about it i dont care as far as i know u told me it is and im honoring that, but there are multiple double entres and sexual inuendos in the post and u cant deny that. whatever lol if its not about chess its not the end of the world.. but i think ive gone on about this long enough

I never played him in chess..

But this IS about chess. Remember that.

ok, commited to memory.
so u dont think its weird this thread would have ur name, a thumbs down, and then just talk about playing some guy in chess? i thought something was up sorry it turned into a 7 page fiasco its just that i dont really trust you at all anyways

Wtf is going on here?

And Kaynan, I'm Bahamut ZERO.

Lionel Richie.

Wtf is going on here?

And Kaynan, I'm Bahamut ZERO.

Got it.

Also- wasn't it Lionel Eichir until he changed it for sounding too ethnic.

Got it.

Also- wasn't it Lionel Eichir until he changed it for sounding too ethnic.

He's so anti black it's not even funny.
That's why he adopted a cracka for a daughter.
He didn't want to bring a, and I quote, "big booty black slut into this world"

He's so anti black it's not even funny.
That's why he adopted a cracka for a daughter.
He didn't want to bring a, and I quote, "big booty black slut into this world"

He just wanted to make love to a white woman so he could feel alive.

He just wanted to make love to a white woman so he could feel alive.

Funny. Because when I ****ed one, I felt dead.

Funny. Because when I ****ed one, I felt dead.

Leave the trailer park.

Leave the trailer park.

Leave Earth.

Leave Earth.

I don't smoke drugs.

BTW- what is your chess style? Are you cautious and deliberate? That's the impression I got.

I don't smoke drugs.

BTW- what is your chess style? Are you cautious and deliberate? That's the impression I got.

Animalistic in that I never overthink stuff.
I just play on instinct. There is some thinking though.

Animalistic in that I never overthink stuff.
I just play on instinct. There is some thinking though.

The ****?

Chess is a thinking man's game, I thought.

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The ****?

Chess is a thinking man's game, I thought.

Yeah, but there's alot of memory in the game of chess.
When you memorize ****, you can do them instinctively.

Like I told, Jada.
You have to put your opponent in a position where his options become limited. So limited that you know what he's going to do.
That's where the instinct comes in. You do this, knowing he's going to do that. So with that knowledge, you can instinctively execute your plans.
It's moreso limiting a ****er's options and making him do what you expect him to do.

Yeah, but there's alot of memory in the game of chess.
When you memorize ****, you can do them instinctively.

Like I told, Jada.
You have to put your opponent in a position where his options become limited. So limited that you know what he's going to do.
That's where the instinct comes in. You do this, knowing he's going to do that. So with that knowledge, you can instinctively execute your plans.
It's moreso limiting a ****er's options and making him do what you expect him to do.

Memory? Kinda like muscle memory, I guess. Do you just memorize the scenarios that can play out?

Memory? Kinda like muscle memory, I guess. Do you just memorize the scenarios that can play out?

Nah. But that's what the grand masters do. They take notes and ****.

Nah. But that's what the grand masters do. They take notes and ****.

As they take tokes of the mary smoke.

I think I'll get into chess.

I'm a God with no angels at my disposal.

No. I love chess.
No joke.
I love lamp.
What's that?
An electrical appliance.

I find this whole exchange hilarious for some reason.... :lol1:

Maybe we can try playing chess online some time.
I'm not that good but I can kick some asses.

I find this whole exchange hilarious for some reason.... :lol1:

i thought the same thing but didnt feel like doing multi quote

i will rule you all in chess, i mean its def. not the same in person but u get the idea

I just got the toughest win of my career in chess.
Crazy match. The momentum changed in the match with almost every move.
I would **** up and make a mistake, then he would **** up and make a mistake.
It was crazy.
I mated him with 1:17 left on my clock, he had 1:09 on his clock.
I'm now rated a 62. I think that's the highest rating I've ever achieved.
I was a 47 going into the match, he was a 33. Good ****, ****er.

Before that match I had a tune up match against some Guest.
He came out wrecklessly and it some of his **** shocked me, but after I hit him a few times, I took control.
Very spirited effort, but it was a case of a amateur vs. a pro.

You shoulda been there.

Grandmaster *AKO PA HA! is back.:p :D :wave:

Kaynan, I'm writing lyrics to a track.
I'm on verse one.

Kaynan, I'm writing lyrics to a track.
I'm on verse one.

I'm a A plus
You a C average *****
A boxingscene lounge, Team Classic *****.

You should use that in your wrap. People wouldn't even question what you said, they'd just act like they understood it. I do that all the time.

I mastered musical rhetoric.
I don't need any of your ****, son.

I mastered musical rhetoric.
I don't need any of your ****, son.

Everybody's a rapper...

It's why I don't respect this modern ****.

Everybody's a rapper...

It's why I don't respect this modern ****.

until they get hit with some real ****...then they wanna change up

until they get hit with some real ****...then they wanna change up

Every rapper is a slave. You listen to their mixtapes, and it's "Ak-47 Killer *****".

But then they drop the album, and their single is "Love is magic" or some ****.

I'm the Chauncey Billups of this forum.

I'm the Chauncey Billups of this forum.

What champ team are YOU leading, *****?

Oh god, Kaynan, check out the stalking from mickeyB on my profile. That's 7 profile comments.

Butt hurt?

I think so.

I'm gonna go watch the game.
I'll play you in chess later if you behave yourself while I'm gone.
Ciao.

I'm gonna go watch the game.
I'll play you in chess later if you behave yourself while I'm gone.
Ciao.

Reply in here for a game gimme a room.

Kaynan, room 2.

Kaynan, room 2.

Can't do it. I'm waiting for my turn on Guitar Hero.

Shouldn't have taken so long.

Chess is probably the greatest board game of all time.

blacks usually suck at chess

except maybe for you jack

Kaynan, you ever saw the Glass Menagerie?

I'm like that guy who said, "Yes, I have tricks in my pocket, I have things up my sleeve. But I am the opposite of the stage magician. He gives you illusion that has the appearance of truth. I give you the truth in the pleasant disguise of illusion."

**** movie, though.

I don't remember that movie. I think I heard those lines in the preview before. Or something.

Ever met someone so out of touch with reality?
That you had no words for them. You just saw them as useless to life and branded them as being "**** that ****" incarnate?

Ever met someone so out of touch with reality?
That you had no words for them. You just saw them as useless to life and branded them as being "**** that ****" incarnate?

Religious people fit that description. Monkeyball ****, man.

./\
//\\

That's you.

...Pyramid?

Abused yourself to bangbros earlier?

I'm writing verse two, btw.

Not yet- but I skimmed through it and saw some **** called Ball Honeys. That will be my weapon of choice whilst beating my meat.

And what is the track about? Are you using an industry beat?

Yeah. It's a mixtape.
I'm doing Lil Wayne - Gossip....how it shoulda been done.

That's whats up. I really do rap, though, Jack- I might send you some **** sometime. I just don't like talking about it on here because it's that same old story type ****. I do it for fun... used to be serious with it.

When you do a Wayne track, you better come hard. People are on that bum's nuts so hard that all they'll be doing is comparing.

I fail to see his greatness.
Maybe I'll learn to appreciate it when he's gone.

I fail to see his greatness.
Maybe I'll learn to appreciate it when he's gone.

**** Lil' Wayne.

I'm gonna go ****.

I'm gonna go ****.

What has this thread become?

Kaynan, I know a guy who's mastered rhetoric. His methods of speaking are comparable to Socrates. It's almost like a perfect chess formation with no holes in the fortress. One where each piece guards another to perfection.

Ever tucked your king in a knight-guard-knight formation where sacrifice is not an option to your opponent, as it would make it impossible for him to form a checkmate?

Something like that.

I had to edit the post, Kay.
I forgot to include the word 'option'.

I have never done that. I castled my **** real good one time, though.

I have never done that. I castled my **** real good one time, though.

Would you say I was a sucka or say I was savvy if I told you mother****as that me and Kay wasn't married?

Would you say I was a sucka or say I was savvy if I told you mother****as that me and Kay wasn't married?

Hey Jack- you ever got your ass kicked horribly in chess? I mean REALLY bad, to the point where you got demoralized. If so- did you take your beating like a man?

Hey Jack- you ever got your ass kicked horribly in chess? I mean REALLY bad, to the point where you got demoralized. If so- did you take your beating like a man?

Yes I have. I went on losing streaks where I thought I couldn't win and winning streaks where I thought I couldn't lose. Just part of the game.
I used to be a little ***** in chess and resign anytime I lose my queen in the early going, but that ****'s not good. Play it out. It's very possible to win without a queen and playing it out just makes you a better player.

Yes I have. I went on losing streaks where I thought I couldn't win and winning streaks where I thought I couldn't lose. Just part of the game.
I used to be a little ***** in chess and resign anytime I lose my queen in the early going, but that ****'s not good. Play it out. It's very possible to win without a queen and playing it out just makes you a better player.

I took a beating from my brother earlier tha made me want to quit chess. But I'm glad he forced e to take it like man. It was Cotto-Judah type stuff.

I took a beating from my brother earlier tha made me want to quit chess. But I'm glad he forced e to take it like man. It was Cotto-Judah type stuff.

Musta been brutally entertaining and sad all at the same time.
Yoel Judah was begging his son to fight, but Zab didn't wanna.

Musta been brutally entertaining and sad all at the same time.
Yoel Judah was begging his son to fight, but Zab didn't wanna.

have you ever driven a Mercury Cougar?

have you ever driven a Mercury Cougar?

No I haven't.
Nice looking cars.
Even though I'm not really into sports cars.

13 pages and only 2 posts from pinoys :D

Im a chess player and had 2 trophies for my level at age 16. Now im just playing againts a GrandMaster level Software and only managed to get a draw on multiply attempts :(


Havent played againts humans in 2 yrs.

13 pages and only 2 posts from pinoys :D

Im a chess player and had 2 trophies for my level at age 16. Now im just playing againts a GrandMaster level Software and only managed to get a draw on multiply attempts :(


Havent played againts humans in 2 yrs.

Man is supposed to beat machine.
What software is it?
Have you ever read any chess books?

13 pages and only 2 posts from pinoys :D

Im a chess player and had 2 trophies for my level at age 16. Now im just playing againts a GrandMaster level Software and only managed to get a draw on multiply attempts :(


Havent played againts humans in 2 yrs.
i got a 100K on miron to beat jack's ass...... :D

whaddayasay rippuh?

i got a 100K on miron to beat jack's ass...... :D

whaddayasay rippuh?

I'd destroy him.
To me, chess is easier than breathing.

I'd destroy him.
To me, chess is easier than breathing.
i'll wait for him to reply....

where do you guys play online anyway?

Man is supposed to beat machine.
What software is it?
Have you ever read any chess books?

Its a very good software its called MajesticChess try it. What i like about it is. it doest take long for every move. as soon as you make your move the software counters in less that 3 seconds.

Im a blitz player BTW.

havent read any book. MY 2 older brothers are both chess players but never get to national levels because of many circumstances.

i'll wait for him to reply....

where do you guys play online anyway?


Dehado keps wala practice hehehe tsaka wala na panahon maglaro :D
kung me practice lang durugin ko yang uling na yan



trans:

Dont have much practice and the time to play. I'll decline any chalenge at the moment :D

Dehado keps wala practice hehehe tsaka wala na panahon maglaro :D
kung me practice lang durugin ko yang uling na yan

trans:

Dont have much practice and the time to play. I'll decline any chalenge at the moment :D

lol.... ok. i thought it was like riding a bike, you never forget to play.

You get board rust.
Just like how boxers get ring rust after a long layoff.

chess can make some people paranoid and become crazy if they play too much because the game is based on survival

lol.... ok. i thought it was like riding a bike, you never forget to play.


di mo makakalimutan pre pero yung sharpness kailagan pa din ng practice. mas mahaba memorya mo dyan mas lamang ka. so kung praktisado ka makita mo pa lang yung mga piyesa automatic alam mo na kagad. kung wala ka practice iisipin mo pa. eh yun ang pinaglalaban dyan yung time limit. blitz pa naman hilig ko :D

You get board rust.
Just like how boxers get ring rust after a long layoff.

true


----

What was your goal in boxing, just the money and the fame mostly? Because you certainly got both in your prime, didn't you?

No. At first, get good at it in the hope of my elder brothers accepting me. They were all boxers and had never accepted me from birth. When I turned amateur, it was win medals, belts and trophies to show my brothers. It sounds crazy, I guess? It was. And when I turned professional, it was to pay off phone bills and gambling debts!

I went to see a Roberto Duran fight in New York City when I was 16, I tagged along with the boxers at my club - and a certain Mike Tyson mingled in, and the fellow he was fighting was the best fighter who'd sparred in the gym I trained at. At that time, I'd only just started sparring and had three rounds under my belt. I looked at Duran as a God that night.

I was a light-middleweight, and the other world champion at my weight was Thomas Hearns, and being a beginner you're working on the jab and the right hand. I admired greatly the jab of Thomas Hearns, but soon realised I couldn't have a jab like that because I didn't have the same body structure. At the start of my amateur career, it was somewhat discouraging to look at the amateur record and professional accomplishments of Thomas Hearns and all his accolades, and then what he did to Roberto Duran was just astronomical and made me see him as a God. It was all astrononmical but at the same time set standards for me to aspire to and helped me be the best I could be.

When I told Thomas Hearns this in 1999 when I met him, he said Ali was the same for him. I'd like to think I was the same for fighters coming up like Naseem. Infact, I know I was. In most cases, boxing is a last resort, and I was for the boxers. I wanted to help the boxers, because I'd been there. All I could do was try to set standards, and I did. I climbed all the way to the top and had 20 world championship fights in four years and four months. I had 43 good nights in a row.

In regards to God's in boxing - to be a God you have to beat a God, or if a man is a God you don't have to explain why he's a God. Tyson became a God, and I'd been everywhere he'd been.

My thing was this - I'd taken out of the community in my youth, and I wanted to put back into the community, and becoming champion would allow me to put back into the community, but only becoming a God would allow my messages of good conduct and correctness to last beyond my tenure. So, in 1987, I decided I wanted to make champion, and in the back of my mind I wanted to become a God.

The fame, as you call it, and yes, okay, to an extent it was intense fame; that wasn't expected by me. When I won the world championship, I remember being interviewed a short time later and I said the man I really want to fight is Roberto Duran, because to be a God you have to beat a God and if he can win one of the other belts next year - as in the following year to that - then he's still a God; that's what I said.

The fame felt like a God-send because then my message of good conduct and correctness could last, and that's what it was all about for me. But why was I getting the fame in the first place? It was because I was world champion and fighting world championship fights every couple of months. You have to earn fame.

Nigel Benn, of course, became a God with his triumph in the Gerald McClellan fight; getting knocked down and battered, yet still winning against a vicious opponent.


Wow mate, I didn't expect that. Who promoted you in your early career, by the way, and was Barry Hearn promoting you before the Benn fight?

I used promoters to get me the fights I wanted. I was the fighter, I was primary. To be a promoter of barbarity is not a moral thing - I could never do it, so I had no morals towards them.

I was without a promoter from April 1988 to October 1988 because they wouldn't give me the money I wanted, but I used my former promoter Keith Miles to get me the fight with Anthony Logan.

After Logan, I told Keith Miles to get me Nigel Benn or Randy Smith. I wasn't prepared to hang around, I had standards to set. He got me Franki Moro. So I dropped him.

Barry Hearn gave me the money I wanted and got me the fights I wanted: Randy Smith, Hugo Corti and a world title shot. If I lost the Randy Smith fight, I walked away from boxing.

If I had my way, I'd have walked to the ring with no robe or theme song and in plain white trunks and plain white boots. My thing was truth and integrity, not gimmicks. It wasn't until 1993 that I thought about offering an idea, when I saw empty seats at my fight for the first time in two and a half years. I thought for months and came up with a monocle, just for a crack!

What I've observed is that entertaining is a good thing, because it broaden's audience and broaden's smile. So, I first started purposefully entertaining in about 1993.

Contrary to belief, I wasn't Apollo Creed. My business was the gymnasium. I was a fighter, it's all I knew. I left everything else upto Barry and Ronnie (Davies). I just took care of the training and fighting.

Before I did the rounds of London and Irish promoters in the late 80s, the only briefing I got was from my dad and that was: 'Don't watch the one's who take hundreds or thousands, watch the one's who take hundreds of thousands.' That was it.

I hooked up with Frank Warren when I made my comeback in 1997 because he was capable of getting me the fights I wanted. I used him.


Do you get Christmas cards from the likes of Nigel Benn, Michael Watson, Henry Wharton, Steve Collins, Joe Calzaghe?

No, we're lions, we keep to our own domains. But we respect each other. My respect for Michael Watson is humungous, on a similar domain to my respect for Nelson Mandela and Muhammad Ali.

When I saw Michael laying in the hospital bed [after their tragic fight in September 1991], his body looked like that of a Greek God. But that's kid's stuff compared to the man's fortitude.


And did that fight have an effect on you, I mean everyone said you didn't go for knockouts and stuff after that?

Absolutely.


And what about those domestic superfights, though? Do you think those epics will be matched again some day or some day soon?

Well, I don't really know. Let me say this - when you have two men completely psyched up for something more than a world championship, you have an epic on your hands. I know of four epic fights: Benn/Eubank 1, Watson/Eubank 2, Ali/Frazier 3, Hagler/Hearns.

There's no such thing as a superfight, because you can only measure a fight after it's happened or as it's happening. Watson 2 was live in China, live in America, live everywhere; and all of those watching along with the 15.9 million watching on ITV are saying to me: 'Why are you getting up?'. Watson was Superman on that night, giving me the most vicious of one-sided beatdown's for 10.9 rounds.

It was at a time when I had, probably, 500 times as many fans in the Bronx - where my family lived and where I learned to box - than I had in England! Me on my hands and knee's is what the country wanted, all because of the incorrectness they had read in the newspapers about me. And incorrectness would inject me, and when I was injected I would respond, you know?

And the great fight you had with Nigel Benn in 1990, despite so many fights after that, people still felt it was your best fight. Would you go along with that?

Watson 2 was my toughest, both mentally and physically, but also by far the most special fight of my career.

But yeah, I mean, Benn 1 and Watson 2, they are my greatest fights. To do what everyone perceived as the impossible - as in beating Benn with hands down, and to beat what I perceived as the unbeatable - as in Watson 2, it doesn't get better than that.

To get the best out of me, you needed to inject me with incorrectness. When I was stopped on my way to the ring against Rocchigiani, spat at and racially slurred at, I absorbed that negative energy and released it as poetic stylishness in my performance, which was positive. At the press conference for the Henry Wharton fight, Mr Wharton's manager, Mickey Duff, referred to me as 'scum' and 'lowest of the low'. Big mistake.

Oh and stylishness is good, by the way. You should do everything with style, I'm telling you people that as an aside.


You did overdo the posing abit though, didn't you mate?

However, it was something of a spectacle in the Benn fight because Benn was known as a ruthless killer. At moments in that fight he was. But the combination of my power and poise made for Benn to doubt himself. Until you saw this fight had you ever seen a man keep another man who was a wrecking machine tentative and afraid to throw, by being... tentative and afraid to throw, but looking threatening? I pulled that off in a big way. Posturing can be a weapon, sometimes a guy can keep another guy at distance just by seeming dangerous. In the boxing world I was the master of this - I think you can see the fight with (Renaldo) Dos Santos on YouTube! And keep an eye on how Dos Santos doesn't seem to know quite what to make of me or how to approach me because of my posture.


Do you think Amir Khan will demand the TV viewers that you and Nigel Benn did if he gets a world title shot? Or does he need a rival to make it more panto?

Well, let's hope so. He's a good role model. There's abstinence, there's ambition, he keeps his schedule, and he wants to set standards.

When I first came to the U.K. to box, people were talking hundreds and I was talking thousands. When people were talking thousands, I was talking ten's of thousands. When people were talking ten's of thousands, I was talking hundreds of thousands. When people were talking hundreds of thousands, I was talking millions. Just when people started talking millions, Eubank-Benn 2 was watched by a billion people. That was the pinnacle, from there I could go in any direction I wanted - promoter's around the world made me offers, TV station's around the world made me offers.

It came basically through ambition. People want normal. They want the gold watch at 65 and the little house with the little back garden. Very few want to challenge themselves and set goals that literally set the new standards. Looking back, I was one of them. Khan has similar potential.


Do you reckon he has the potential to become an all-time great, though?

There's no such thing as an all-time great, because you can't mix the era's. You can only be a great of your own era. And yes, there's potential, even more potential when seeing the fight where he was knocked down this year, but right now it's nothing more than potential.


Somebody wants to know, what's your favourite-ever TV show?

Uhhh. The Fast Show, I don't even know why. Why?


Just somebody wanted to know.

Well now they know, don't they?


The WBO organisation still comes under a lot of flack, if you like, and you were the one who kind of made that organisation. What are your feelings on that?

My feelings are that Nigel Benn was a shark - if he wasn't, I wouldn't have fought him, and if he wasn't I wouldn't be who I am!

After Corti, I was supposed to be fighting Julian Jackson - famous for his knockout blow of Herol Graham - for the WBC world title which was vacant and then WBA world champion Mike McCallum. But neither of them ended up signing the contracts.

In May 1990, I said I was willing to fight Michael Nunn in America as a last resort and I'd take $100,000. Nunn called me a nobody, a bore, said I'd fought nobody and that nobody would be interested in my ring style. A year later I was selling more tickets and drawing more viewers than anyone in boxing bar Mike Tyson.

My fight with (Eduardo) Contreras had been my first fight on American television since I based myself in Brighton, but I didn't realise how slippery he was and how much absorbance the guy had so I failed to impress.

Let's be right about it - Nigel Benn would have poleaxed every middleweight in the world in 1990 bar Contreras and Mike McCallum! On my scale of one to 10, the only other fighter who got 10 out of 10 for both power and aggression was Mike Tyson.

I wasn't prepared to hang around, I had standards to set and it took a £1,000,000 cheque being waved in front of Nigel Benn's face to get any middleweight in the world in the ring with me in 1990. And if the WBO world title was good enough for the astounding Thomas Hearns, it was good enough for me!


And you were a big underdog before the fight, weren't you? You hadn't really fought anybody before that...

No. It's actually opposite to that - I'd fought everybody! From my first amateur fight, right up until I fought for the world championship, I took the fights that nobody else wanted! That's why it was so rewarding for me, because I came up the hard way.


But during your reign, you were often accused of not fighting the best. Do you think you could have gone out of your way abit more and fought some of the better guys?

No, again, it's opposite to that! It was a case of them having to go out of their way to fight me, because I was the champion, you understand? Marvin Hagler, who I have the utmost respect for, gave up his WBA world title when Herol Graham was mandatory challenger so that he could fight Sugar Ray Leonard for $12,000,000. I decided to embark on a £10,000,000 World Tour instead of face Michael Nunn or Roy Jones, who weren't even at No. 1 contender rank and so weren't mandated, and I get this stick? If it was alright for Hagler, why wasn't it alright for me?


But you didn't challenge yourself - I mean once you actually got there sort of thing - as much as most other champions it seemed, or after the Michael Watson fight shall we say.

Well, that's nonsensical. Opposite again. Sorry, but, you know, I ask any champion of any era - this is fantasy, I know - but I ask any champion of any era to defend their championship six times in one calender year, against world top-ten contenders and mandatory challengers, half of them against southpaws, half of them in lion's den's, two of them undefeated, one of them 6,000 feet above sea level, and get six W's in the bracket. Barely mortal... at all in actual fact. Infact, this isn't fantasy, and that is go and ask any of today's champions to do that - if I was a betting man, and I am, I'd bet the house I have in Hove that none would succeed, and I'd bet in a friendly way that none would come close.


You fought Joe Calzaghe 10 years ago and he stills holds the title today, and his career has really, really picked up lately, or the last few years then. A lot of people tend to think he's the greatest British fighter, possibly ever, what do you think about that?

It's not what is said during your career when you are being hailed by the critics for better or for worse, or at the start of your career when you're all the rage, it's what is said at the end of your career that matters, (that's) how you are remembered. And Calzaghe is still enduring his career and the varying things that are said, it has chapters left. He's yet to taste defeat, for example.


We've got some people who want to know if you were a fan of Ali growing up?

No, I thought verbally he was incorrect and wanted George Foreman to punch him out. But at eight years old, you don't understand what the man achieved outside the ring, or outside of pugilism itself. When you're 18, you're more informed. And Ali's integrity humbled and humbles me.

One should always bow to their elders, those who come before them. I bow to Ali, Hagler, Duran, Hearns and so on. And I expect to be bowed upon by those who come after me or came after me. I don't expect to be disrespected, as Naseem did to me. I expect to be clapped out, as Hatton did.


And any chance of a comeback?! No disrespect, but we know you're not exactly loaded like you used to be!

None at all. My dignity is much more precious to me. And if I was a tramp, I'd have hold of my WBO middleweight belt because it's a symbolism of sacrifice for me, which is superiorlistic, though the WBO super middleweight belt was auctioned off a few years back to support Michael Watson. I've also got the New York Youth belt, the WBC International belt, the Old Buck Belt and the Spanish Golden Gloves trophy. I'd happily give the Old Buck Belt to Dan Schommer if he asked for it, because in my opinion he beat me, even if it was the last thing I had on Earth. My integrity will never be broken.

Musta been brutally entertaining and sad all at the same time.
Yoel Judah was begging his son to fight, but Zab didn't wanna.

His nuts hurt. He was scared if he hurt Cotto again, he'd make him sterile.

I actually made this thread in the Pinoy Lounge to hide it from Orange Sneakers.

I actually made this thread in the Pinoy Lounge to hide it from Orange Sneakers.

Juy's novelty is wearing off.

Juy's novelty is wearing off.

He's retarded and repetitive.

He's retarded and repetitive.

Is he punch drunk? He might be punch drunk...

di mo makakalimutan pre pero yung sharpness kailagan pa din ng practice. mas mahaba memorya mo dyan mas lamang ka. so kung praktisado ka makita mo pa lang yung mga piyesa automatic alam mo na kagad. kung wala ka practice iisipin mo pa. eh yun ang pinaglalaban dyan yung time limit. blitz pa naman hilig ko :D

My thoughts exactly. I finally understand what this thread is about.

I actually made this thread in the Pinoy Lounge to hide it from Orange Sneakers.
I was wondering why.... :lol1:

My thoughts exactly. I finally understand what this thread is about.


sorry :D

here's what i actually mean in that post

You get board rust.
Just like how boxers get ring rust after a long layoff.

Juy's novelty is wearing off.


What are juy's other names in this forum? is he the one with a burger as av? is that geofhayes?

What are juy's other names in this forum? is he the one with a burger as av? is that geofhayes?

Yeah. All the same person.
JuyJuy, Orange_Sneakers, GeoffHayes, JuicyJuice, etc.

Too many alts to list.

Itlog, I clicked the link.
What am I supposed to do after that?

Stop hurting my feelings.

I don't remember posting anything I said.

Is that a racist av?

Yeah. All the same person.
JuyJuy, Orange_Sneakers, GeoffHayes, JuicyJuice, etc.

Too many alts to list.

Itlog, I clicked the link.
What am I supposed to do after that?

What link chief?? I didn't post any...

You talking about miron's link on his sig? In which case don't bother because it's an old link.....

Is that a racist av?

Lol. No...

Juicy... stop acting like a *****.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1fvcMSnfpE

Benn-McClellan.

Arthur Mercante.

Arthur Mercante.


A Great Ref?


How bout Carlos Padilla?

Benn-McClellan.

Mancini-Kim

A Great Ref?


How bout Carlos Padilla?

Octavio Meyran, son.

How bout Carlos Padilla?

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Octavio Meyran, son.


No. Carlos Padilla

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Youtube is block here in our office :(

P4P GOAT

P4P GOAT


Oh yes

P4P GOAT

P4P GOAT


Oh yes

Levesta Bones.

Levesta Bones.

Now you might start believing in the Ringmaster. He's numero uno, second to everyone.

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Kaynàn Crespo.

Kaynàn Crespo.

Kaynan Levesta Liban.

LL Kaynan.

Kaynan Levesta Liban.

LL Kaynan.

You wish the name Levesta was yours. I know you do.
But uh...
Did Pbds' comment bother you?

You wish the name Levesta was yours. I know you do.
But uh...
Did Pbds' comment bother you?

Actually, yeah. Wasn't neccesary...

A guy I know is going to be on the Steve something show.

A guy I know is going to be on the Steve something show.

Who and for what?

I meant the Mike Sherman show.

I meant the Mike Sherman show.

Who's the friend?

Some kid I go to school with.
He was 'A'.
He's too ****ing poetic with his ****.
I don't understand a word he raps.

Some kid I go to school with.
He was 'A'.
He's too ****ing poetic with his ****.
I don't understand a word he raps.

He's into that spoken word ****.
Some **** I could never find myself getting into.

He's into that spoken word ****.
Some **** I could never find myself getting into.

Poetry is a sham. I swear to Zab- I won a poetry slam at my old HS on a dare. That made me lose some respect for it.

Poetry is a sham. I swear to Zab- I won a poetry slam at my old HS on a dare. That made me lose some respect for it.

Poetry is too simple and too full of **** imo.

Your favourite player, Kaynan.

http://i5.tinypic.com/8ggeik8.png

Poetry is too simple and too full of **** imo.

I feel the exact same way. It's up for interpretation, which means that any bull**** you write can be considered good.

Your favourite player, Kaynan.

http://i5.tinypic.com/8ggeik8.png

How the **** did you know that?

I feel the exact same way. It's up for interpretation, which means that any bull**** you write can be considered good.



How the **** did you know that?

I'm ill right now.
Talk to you later.

I'm ill right now.
Talk to you later.

Feel better, Vitya.

I'm renewed.
Thought I was done, the fun's just begun.

I'm renewed.
Thought I was done, the fun's just begun.

New *****...

Orange Satan, what moves you may not move me.

Life is ill, again, life's a movie...

Life is ill, again, life's a movie...

"Pop in you favorite movie- you could picture how I live. As soon as you die, yeah they got a scripture for you, kid. Guarunteed it says nothing bout the *****ing that you did."

-Zab Judah

An ounce of practice weighs more than a ton of theory.

Kaynan, what did you think of The Cool?

I think it was overrated.
It has some good ****, but it ain't great.

Kaynan, what did you think of The Cool?

I think it was overrated.
It has some good ****, but it ain't great.

He tries to be hip-hop chic and unique. Without realizing that Hip-Hop chic and unique is no longer unique. I never liked the cat, because I feel like he's forcing an image.

Have you ever tried catching your fart with your fist and sniff it afterwards?

He tries to be hip-hop chic and unique. Without realizing that Hip-Hop chic and unique is no longer unique. I never liked the cat, because I feel like he's forcing an image.

You ever found yourself liking anything by him?

Have you ever tried catching your fart with your fist and sniff it afterwards?

Ever been to a funeral where the body smelled odd (not like death, but odd)?

Ever been to a funeral where the body smelled odd (not like death, but odd)?Ever been to a mountain full of **** (moutain is **** itself)?

Ever been to a mountain full of **** (moutain is **** itself)?

I told you already... I'm not interested in sick stuff like that.
Now answer my question.

I told you already... I'm not interested in sick stuff like that.
Now answer my question.
Okay, i'll try it sometime when somebody tells me I'm about to die.

You ever found yourself liking anything by him?

I don't **** with it. Sounds too forced.

Kaynan, you on?

Kaynan, you on?

I go from practice to the computer because the real games begin on here, Jack.

I'm done with this thread.

Bump Bump Bump

Benn-McClellan.

Mancini-Kim

Chavez-Johnson