View Full Version : Hagler/Hearns.If Hearns didn't break his hand...
tills9191 12-24-2007, 07:13 AM I think the whole fight changed dramatically.
Hearns breaks his hand in the 2nd round of the fight.
Hearns ends up being KO'ed in the 3rd.
You have to attribute the loss to the hand breaking.
Otherwise, who knows what would have happend.
porlie 12-24-2007, 07:21 AM Even upto breaking his hand, Hearns hadnt badly hurt Hagler.
Silencers 12-24-2007, 08:01 AM Wouldn't have changed the result. As porlie said Hagler was never seriously hurt by Hearns prior to Hearns breaking his hand. He could've maybe lasted longer, but Hagler would've KO'd him anyway.
Tuggers1986 12-24-2007, 08:19 AM I think the whole fight changed dramatically.
Hearns breaks his hand in the 2nd round of the fight.
Hearns ends up being KO'ed in the 3rd.
You have to attribute the loss to the hand breaking.
Otherwise, who knows what would have happend.
If he didn't break his hand he would have been KO'd in 6 instead of 3.
Yaman 12-24-2007, 09:10 AM It means that no matter how many rights hands he hit Hagler with, he could not stop him. If he didn't break his hand in the second round he would have broke it eventually, because throwing that punch with that much force on such a hard head(Hearns has clearly said that Hagler's head was very hard) so many times spells the fate of his right fist.
Sweet Pete 12-24-2007, 11:49 AM So far everyone above me is correct.
Sugar_ITA 12-24-2007, 03:18 PM I think the whole fight changed dramatically.
Hearns breaks his hand in the 2nd round of the fight.
Hearns ends up being KO'ed in the 3rd.
You have to attribute the loss to the hand breaking.
Otherwise, who knows what would have happend.
No, because his "I'm going to slug all night long" plan was a suicide against hagler.
Hagler TKO 5.
SABBATH 12-24-2007, 04:15 PM Hearns actually shook Hagler with the first big right he landed which also was the one that allegedly broke his hand.
I watched the fight live on closed-circuit and it was very apparent at the time that there was something wrong with the Hearns right as he began cuffing with it as opposed to throwing straight and with conviction.
Hearns became basically a one handed fighter which wasn't enough to hold Hagler off.
You have to factor in the anxiety and how it must have negatively affected Hearns. Here Hearns is in the biggest fight of his life against his most dangerous opponent and seconds into it he's reduced to one hand. It was a formality after that.
To me it's a toss up if Hearns hand had not been broken. Remember that Hagler was cut early and had to be checked by the Dr. Maybe with two healthy hands Hearns gets Hagler's respect, slows down his aggression, works a bit more at long range and gets back in the fight or even stops Hagler on cuts.
A rematch would have solved matters but Leonard came back and put an end to Hearns getting another shot at Hagler.
And please no more references to Hagler's head being any harder than anyone else. A skull is a skull. They're all hard.
Sweet Pete 12-24-2007, 05:11 PM Hearns actually shook Hagler with the first big right he landed which also was the one that allegedly broke his hand.
I watched the fight live on closed-circuit and it was very apparent at the time that there was something wrong with the Hearns right as he began cuffing with it as opposed to throwing straight and with conviction.
Hearns became basically a one handed fighter which wasn't enough to hold Hagler off.
You have to factor in the anxiety and how it must have negatively affected Hearns. Here Hearns is in the biggest fight of his life against his most dangerous opponent and seconds into it he's reduced to one hand. It was a formality after that.
To me it's a toss up if Hearns hand had not been broken. Remember that Hagler was cut early and had to be checked by the Dr. Maybe with two healthy hands Hearns gets Hagler's respect, slows down his aggression, works a bit more at long range and gets back in the fight or even stops Hagler on cuts.
A rematch would have solved matters but Leonard came back and put an end to Hearns getting another shot at Hagler.
And please no more references to Hagler's head being any harder than anyone else. A skull is a skull. They're all hard.So you're trying to say noone has better punch resistance than anyone else? If so get off this forum right now, you haven't a clue what you're talking about.
Brockton Lip 12-24-2007, 09:09 PM Hearns also didn't have his legs working right in that fight, which is why he tried to take out Hagler early and stood to toe-to-toe. Hearns without these factors would be a toss-up possibly.
tills9191 12-24-2007, 09:12 PM I wonder how a fighter can be the same fighting without his power punch.
FFS , he broke his right hand, and like some1 before said, Hagler had a cut I think between the eyes, where the doctor had to check up on him.
I seriously wonder who would have won. Every1 seems to be discounting Hearns for some reason. I certainly don't.
Sweet Pete 12-24-2007, 09:14 PM Hearns also didn't have his legs working right in that fight, which is why he tried to take out Hagler early and stood to toe-to-toe. Hearns without these factors would be a toss-up possibly.
His legs weren't working right because they were wobbly from the beating he was taking.
Hearns was not boxing him, he was fighting him. He was wobbly and showing signs of weariness by the second round, which had nothing to do with his hand. You can't fight someone full on who's stronger than you, can take your best shot, and has an offense you can't deal with.
Hearns would have to box to beat Hagler, and that wouldn't work, as Hearns showed quite the weakness against strong pressure fighters. He had no chance in this fight, ever.
The Noose 12-24-2007, 09:44 PM Why do people think Hearns wanted to trade with Hagler. Hagler was the one who initiated the brawl, knowing that was the best way to beat Hearns.
Hearns wanted to box and keep Hagler off him. But simply couldnt. Hagler was ****in possessed.
Has Hearns ever talked about his hand being broken? Ive never heard anyone make it a major factor in the outcome of the fight.
Sweet Pete 12-24-2007, 09:49 PM Why do people think Hearns wanted to trade with Hagler. Hagler was the one who initiated the brawl, knowing that was the best way to beat Hearns.
Hearns wanted to box and keep Hagler off him. But simply couldnt. Hagler was ****in possessed.
Has Hearns ever talked about his hand being broken? Ive never heard anyone make it a major factor in the outcome of the fight.Nah, Hearns initely chose to brawl. Hagler came right at Leonard the same way, straight ahead, but Leonard chose to move and box, therefore Hagler was made to not look as good.
Brockton Lip 12-24-2007, 10:22 PM His legs weren't working right because they were wobbly from the beating he was taking.
They weren't right from the start of the fight. In the dressing room, his handlers massaged his legs before the fight which took alot of them and because of that, he tried to take out Hagler early before his legs would fail. This if I recall correctly, is according to Steward so it should not be taken as 100% fact, but is something to consider.
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