I have to work all the hours under the sun, I have to spend money I don't have, I have to travel all over the country to see relatives etc, I have to cook, I have to go out on Christmas Eve, it's cold, it's wet, it's just the very WORST time of year.

Bah ****in humbug.

and everyone gets arrested for D.U.I.

I'm over it too......If I didn't have a 6 year old I wouldn't celebrate it at all.

"It's the most INCREDIBLE time....of the year.."

Some poor cunt in my locality just got doused with petrol and set on fire.
So much for festive spirit eh?

"It's the most INCREDIBLE time....of the year.."

Some poor cunt in my locality just got doused with petrol and set on fire.
So much for festive spirit eh?

I've always wondered why that doesn't happen more often.

I've always wondered why that doesn't happen more often.

Yeah it is a time for GIVING after all......
Normally you just light the Christmas Pudding which is laced with Brandy.
I guess Chavs need to have their own version.

I've always wondered why that doesn't happen more often.

LMAO seriously

and how come people dont get drawn in quarters anymore thats hood status

I have to work all the hours under the sun, I have to spend money I don't have, I have to travel all over the country to see relatives etc, I have to cook, I have to go out on Christmas Eve, it's cold, it's wet, it's just the very WORST time of year.

Bah ****in humbug.

Well, consider this then:

The Greek Scriptures (New Testament) indicate neither the day nor the month that Jesus was born. There is zero basis for declaring that Jesus was born on December 25, so if you really want to celebrate the birth of Jesus (the scriptures only ask that Christians commemorate Jesus' sacrifice), tell your family you'd rather do it in the Spring time or something. Many biblical scholars suggest that this date was chosen by Christian clergy because it coincided with pre-existing pagan celebrations that occurred annually on or around the winter solstice (Dec 20-23). Many believe that the 25th was chosen to coincide with a celebration called Saturnalia (in honor of the Roman sun god Saturn).

Beyond that, the tradition of gift giving to celebrate Jesus' birth isn't really based on the Bible either. Presumably, the tradition is rooted in the fact that the Three Wise Men (Magii, astrologers) presented gifts to the baby Jesus (two-year old, not the new born baby Jesus btw). The three wise men didn't give gifts to each other, so you can just explain to your family that you are only buying one gift this year; for Jesus.

For whatever it's worth..

Well, consider this then:

The Greek Scriptures (New Testament) indicate neither the day nor the month that Jesus was born. There is zero basis for declaring that Jesus was born on December 25, so if you really want to celebrate the birth of Jesus (the scriptures only ask that Christians commemorate Jesus' sacrifice), tell your family you'd rather do it in the Spring time or something. Many biblical scholars suggest that this date was chosen by Christian clergy because it coincided with pre-existing pagan celebrations that occurred annually on or around the winter solstice (Dec 20-23). Many believe that the 25th was chosen to coincide with a celebration called Saturnalia (in honor of the Roman sun god Saturn).

Beyond that, the tradition of gift giving to celebrate Jesus' birth isn't really based on the Bible either. Presumably, the tradition is rooted in the fact that the Three Wise Men (Magii, astrologers) presented gifts to the baby Jesus (two-year old, not the new born baby Jesus btw). The three wise men didn't give gifts to each other, so you can just explain to your family that you are only buying one gift this year; for Jesus.

For whatever it's worth..

St Nicholas is the reason why we celebrate Xmas in December.
I think his day is the 6th of december.
Anyway as you may or may not know St Nicholas is now more commonly referred to as "Santa Claus" which is a bastardised version of "Sa(i)nt(a) Nichol(au)s

If you can be arsed to read learn more here...
Although Wikipedia is not always the best source of information...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas

St Nicholas is the reason why we celebrate Xmas in December.
I think his day is the 6th of december.
Anyway as you may or may not know St Nicholas is now more commonly referred to as "Santa Claus" which is a bastardised version of "Sa(i)nt(a) Nichol(au)s

If you can be arsed to read learn more here...
Although Wikipedia is not always the best source of information...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas

Ohhh, so Christmas, a holiday that supposedly celebrates the birth of Jesus Christ , is observed today on the 25th of December because Saint Nicholas died on 6 December (Julian, or 19th Gregorian). That makes sense. Explain to me again what Saint Nicholas has to do with Jesus?

Ohhh, so Christmas, a holiday that supposedly celebrates the birth of Jesus Christ , is observed today on the 25th of December because Saint Nicholas died on 6 December (Julian, or 19th Gregorian). That makes sense. Explain to me again what Saint Nicholas has to do with Jesus?

The main reason why most Christian "Holidays" or "Celebrations" are on certain dates is because they coincided with Pagan Celebrations.
Obviously they had to ease Christianity into the new way of life for people from yesteryear as Religion was the new way to supress the masses.
Consumerism is the new religion.
Most people are obsessed with keeping up with the Jones' rather than realising what life is truly all about whilst the Heirarchy lives in luxury while the minions are too occupied with the day to day struggle.

The main reason why most Christian "Holidays" or "Celebrations" are on certain dates is because they coincided with Pagan Celebrations.
Obviously they had to ease Christianity into the new way of life for people from yesteryear as Religion was the new way to supress the masses.
Consumerism is the new religion.
Most people are obsessed with keeping up with the Jones' rather than realising what life is truly all about whilst the Heirarchy lives in luxury while the minions are too occupied with the day to day struggle.

Yes on all points.

The main reason why most Christian "Holidays" or "Celebrations" are on certain dates is because they coincided with Pagan Celebrations.
Obviously they had to ease Christianity into the new way of life for people from yesteryear as Religion was the new way to supress the masses.
Consumerism is the new religion.
Most people are obsessed with keeping up with the Jones' rather than realising what life is truly all about whilst the Heirarchy lives in luxury while the minions are too occupied with the day to day struggle.

Yep, December 25th was originally a pagan festivel and celebrated long before christmas. Easy to get the population into celebrating it since it was already a public holiday.

Christmas is ace. **** off anyone who doesn't think so. Mardy cunts.

Christmas is ace. **** off anyone who doesn't think so. Mardy cunts.

Good time of year for drinking, so it is.

exactly. Nice food, plenty of beer - plenty of parties.. even get a few presents if your lucky.

How can you hate celebrating!?!!!!

exactly. Nice food, plenty of beer - plenty of parties.. even get a few presents if your lucky.

How can you hate celebrating!?!!!!

I don't celebrate Christmas.
I do however use it as an excuse to get ****ing leathered and behave like a complete lunatic.

I don't celebrate Christmas.
I do however use it as an excuse to get ****ing leathered and behave like a complete lunatic.

That's the spirit lad, go out and tell the rest of the UK who the F you are and get ready to wake up to Tony the Albanian on the top bunk the next morning :D

I feel especially lonely on holydays.

I feel especially lonely on holydays.

How the hell do you feel lonely if you live in Brooklyn :dunno:

exactly. Nice food, plenty of beer - plenty of parties.. even get a few presents if your lucky.

How can you hate celebrating!?!!!!
That's why I hate it - everyone else is celebrating, everyone else is off work, and there I am, working 12 hour days seven days a week. I work in logistics you see. Roll on January!!!

Christmas Day is good though - Merry Christmas everyone!!!!

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Merry Christmas Wire

Worst cunting christmas I can remember. Got a fair few DVD's and me ****in' players decided to break, and the one on me computer has decided not to bleedin work either. What a bastard liberty. **** it all.

Friday night down the boozer > Christmas.