(Bar-Work)Pull-ups, dips and push-ups -vs- Free weights. Which work out would give you quicker and better results? Why?

this happens to be my thing.

my stats 2 years ago - 5'11" - 235 - 36" waist - just. no. good.

my stats today are - 5'11" - 172 - 30" waist - ALL because of running AND pullulps.

www.everlast.com

forget it - just searched the site and they don't have that bar anymore.

just get some saucony shoes and run, and put up a bar in your bedroom that you can mount on the door frame, plus dedication - you'll be a monster, son.

this happens to be my thing.

my stats 2 years ago - 5'11" - 235 - 36" waist - just. no. good.

my stats today are - 5'11" - 172 - 30" waist - ALL because of running AND pullulps.
www.everlast.com

forget it - just searched the site and they don't have that bar anymore.

just get some saucony shoes and run, and put up a bar in your bedroom that you can mount on the door frame, plus dedication - you'll be a monster, son.

That's the feed back I was looking for. this is my routine throughout the week. I'll definitely cosign the running cuz that the biggest part of the workout and that gets you lean quick.

(Bar-Work)Pull-ups, dips and push-ups -vs- Free weights. Which work out would give you quicker and better results? Why?

It's like asking which is more important water or air. Both.

It's like asking which is more important water or air. Both.

...you think so?....I don't know but the weights do nothing for me, and i've tried multiple routines. any pointers

It's like asking which is more important water or air. Both.

not really.

breathing nor water have i'll side effects, however, free-weights put a damaging strain on joints and cartilage, no?

not really.

breathing nor water have i'll side effects, however, free-weights put a damaging strain on joints and cartilage, no?

And running doesn't? BW exercises don't? There's no one training method that is superior to others. It's all about how they are employed.

P.S. You'll drown in water, and breathing the wrong kind of air is like poison. It's not all black and white.

...you think so?....I don't know but the weights do nothing for me, and i've tried multiple routines. any pointers

Yes I do. The thing is, you haven't even told us what kind of results you're looking for... And it's hard to give you pointers without knowing your goals, and without knowing what you've tried, and how you've executed.

Training is not something you can boil down to a one line sentence. There's a lot of subtleties and contexts.

And running doesn't? BW exercises don't? There's no one training method that is superior to others. It's all about how they are employed.

P.S. You'll drown in water, and breathing the wrong kind of air is like poison. It's not all black and white.

touche.

for the thread starter, i spent money on a pair of running shoes and a 30 dollar bar, i'd say, master that like i did and then everything else just becomes easy.

FOUND IT!

http://store.everlastboxing.com/everlast-multi-function-home-gym-bar.html

THATS IT. ALL YOU NEED!

Do you really think that running shoes are worth the money? I currently use basketball shoes when running and dont know whether to spend that extra 90 dollars on running shoes. What do u think?

Do you really think that running shoes are worth the money? I currently use basketball shoes when running and dont know whether to spend that extra 90 dollars on running shoes. What do u think?

In my opinion, no.
In my corporate experience, extra money spent on such branded items isn't worth the money as your not really paying for an added health/fitness benefit, more that your paying to wear a status symbol that looks prettier. As a former soldier, im well aware of running and training in uncomfortable footwear buit despite this we would stilll manage to attain and maintain a high level of fitness. For example:

CFT(combat fitness test) - 8miles in 2hrs
RM Commando All Arms Endurance Test - 64 km in 18hrs (whilst navigating).

All done wearing regulation boots.

In my opinion, no.
In my corporate experience, extra money spent on such branded items isn't worth the money as your not really paying for an added health/fitness benefit, more that your paying to wear a status symbol that looks prettier. As a former soldier, im well aware of running and training in uncomfortable footwear buit despite this we would stilll manage to attain and maintain a high level of fitness. For example:

CFT(combat fitness test) - 8miles in 2hrs
RM Commando All Arms Endurance Test - 64 km in 18hrs (whilst navigating).

All done wearing regulation boots.
running shoes are designed for comfort and to put less strain on your feet.
the reason they make you run with combat boots is because you ain't gonna be on the battle field running with sneakers and need to get acustomed to to the weight of the shoe weighing you down which builds stemina and makes you a better runner.

if you ain't trying to weigh yourself down to lose weight I don't see why not buy running shoes?

I go to the gym twice a week and do free weight exercises there and do bodyweight exercises (push-ups, chin-ups etc.) at home.

I find that bodyweight exercises help to improve muscular endurcane because once you're at a decent standard you're training with a lot of repetitions of the exercise which will cause the muscle to adapt for muscular endurance.

If you use free weights, repetitions are normally between 6 and 20 which tend to make the muscle stronger but put less emphasis on muscular endurance.

As I said I go to the gym twice a week where I do free weight exercises, I've found that a mix between the two are good but I do more bodyweight exercises as I can't get to the gym as much as I'd like due to transport and money. A mix between the two also helps to prevent boredom but as long as you're pushing your muscle to the limit with any exercise it is going to get stronger and more durable.

I go to the gym twice a week and do free weight exercises there and do bodyweight exercises (push-ups, chin-ups etc.) at home.

I find that bodyweight exercises help to improve muscular endurcane because once you're at a decent standard you're training with a lot of repetitions of the exercise which will cause the muscle to adapt for muscular endurance.

If you use free weights, repetitions are normally between 6 and 20 which tend to make the muscle stronger but put less emphasis on muscular endurance.

As I said I go to the gym twice a week where I do free weight exercises, I've found that a mix between the two are good but I do more bodyweight exercises as I can't get to the gym as much as I'd like due to transport and money. A mix between the two also helps to prevent boredom but as long as you're pushing your muscle to the limit with any exercise it is going to get stronger and more durable.

Good post, the key to excercise is mixing things up (as well as a good diet of course). I personally try to mix in bodyweight excercises with free weights in all the days I train. For example I do simple free weight excercises like bench press, bicep curls, hammer-ons, one arm lateral raises and stuff like that plus I mix in pullups or chinups the day I work on back, dumbell one-arm snatches or sandbag lifts for other days, and finish it all off by slamming my good ol' truck tire with my 10 lbs sledgehammer. My cardio days consist of jogging and hitting the heavy bag for 3 x 3 rounds and afterwards I work on the abs.

I have to watch my diet a lil' more though, I've been bulking up more than getting lean, so it still a work in progress but so far I'm seeing results. I'm also looking to join a boxing gym but as a full time worker/part time college student it can get a lil' difficult to find that extra time.

(Bar-Work)Pull-ups, dips and push-ups -vs- Free weights. Which work out would give you quicker and better results? Why?

Both have their benefits but there is a downside for each side. If you combine free weights and bar work, that is what you will get the best results from. Pull-ups are one of the best workouts out there. Pull-ups work your back, biceps, and core. You can use free-weights while doing pull ups by wrapping your ankles around a free weight of your choice and work out that way. Same goes for dips, pushups. For pull ups my max before was 20reps(with correct form) now I'm doing 30. I'll be pushing for 40 mid february if not more.

So just combine free-weights and bar work and you'll see the results fast.