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Mr. Beelzebub
05-06-2003, 11:58 AM
To start this off this fight has been in the making for three years. When I fought Guy Mezger the second time chuck fought that same card he was a kick boxer with wrestling skill. I never thought of him as a threat to me. Back then UFC wasn’t half of what it is today. Chuck and I started training in 2000. He needed a manager to help with his contracts and P.R. Sal Garcia was my manager, so I thought I would help chuck and add him to my team. This was the first unleashing of Team Punishment. Chuck helped me when I fought Silva. I help him with Monson. We would help each other for each fight. All the way up to UFC 33 then the training stopped. We knew we were on a collision course to fight each other. When I sign the contract with the UFC fighting Chuck was not a opposition. Both of Chuck and my manager said that if Chuck and I had to fight I would have the choice to renegotiate if this fight would ever happen. Dana said him self that he would not let this fight happen. But as Chuck and I kept beating everyone at our weight this fight now has to happen. Over the three years I have been with Zuffa I have never said “No”. I have always said “Yes”. The times I went on the road with Dana, all the photo shoots, all the interviews. This s*** was draining. I thought the training was hard , but the PR was worse. I was training for the Belfort fight and got a call saying that Belfort was hurt. I never said once that I wouldn’t fight the replacement I had a choice of Vladdy, Randelman, or Chuck. I remember my manager (Jim Gallo) witch is Chuck’s manager saying Chuck wasn’t training to fight me. So now Zuffa had two choices Vladdy or Randelman. Or I had two choices. So I picked Randelman. He pussed out so Vladdy was the last choice. I never once asked for more money to fight and I had a right to. Two week before my biggest fight of my life has been changed. All the preparing for Belfort had to be change in two weeks. I went from fighting a boxer/BJJ to fighting a world class wrestler. I said lets do it with out even any questions. I had a broken foot before the fight but I never let anyone know. I did what no one thought I could do beat a world class wrestler with wrestling. That same night I watched Chuck lose in my eyes to Bustamante.
I get injured training for Belfort. A torn ACL recovery time eight months to a year and a half. I thought my fighting career was over. I got surgery one month after the injury happened. In May of 2002 my dreams were crushed. I was in a brace watching the UFC on TV for the first time in four years. As the months went on of busting my a** in rehab my knee was getting better. Zuffa was already starting to promote the return of Ken Shamrock. The date was set for Sept 15th. In my mind I would never be ready. I said that was too soon. So Zuffa pushed it back a month. This is only six months after surgery. Plus all the PR trips Zuffa wanted me to go on and I refuse to because of my rehab. Dana got all pissed at me. At UFC 39 I brought t-shirts to sell to promote my fight against Ken. I ask if UFC would sale them and they said no. We have a lot of your T shirts already. How about I take some of the old shirts and replace them with the new ones. They still said no. So before UFC 39 started I went in front of the venue and sign autographs and took picture with the fans for two hours. I thought I could get rid of the three dozen t-shirts while I tend to the fans. Dana comes walking up with one of his friends from his town in Boston. His friend has two kids with him. I shook all there hands and gave them free t-shirts. Dana said “You should not be selling those t-shirts”. He was the only one that knew. I was fined 1000 dollars for tending to my fans by the UFC. This really got to me I thought Dana was my friend but I came to realize this was just business. So it got me thinking this whole time I thought we were friends I was blinded by friendship. I still think of Dana as a friend but in the fight game he is just another promoter. I am just another prize fighter to there company that they are trying to monopol

Mr. Beelzebub
05-06-2003, 12:02 PM
Here is the link if you wanna read that whole thread.
http://www.titoortiz.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=2151

Fallout
05-06-2003, 12:18 PM
150k to show, 150k to win. He said that. It should happen. It has to happen

Tom
05-06-2003, 04:57 PM
nice av.

Tito should get more money, i dunno about 150 to show and 150 to win

Zen
05-06-2003, 05:51 PM
no comment

Big-g
05-06-2003, 06:09 PM
Busta did beat chuck no question...

Mr. Beelzebub
05-06-2003, 06:13 PM
This Tito's reply in that same thread:

Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 6:38 pm

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Rest of the first post.---I will be fighting for the next two to three years unless something better comes along. I am paying for the fighters who don’t sell tickets or PPV. You guys need to stand up for the fighters and not the promoter. I am willing to fight anyone they put in front of me. I just want what’s fare. I bust my a** for my fans and family to make it better for the future of our sport. I want to make sure that my son doesn’t go threw the s*** I went threw. The money I get to fight will make sure of that. I tasted what dirt tastes like and my son will never live the life I lived. My management is making sure of that. Chuck will get his chance soon enough and he will lose.

Tito Ortiz UFC Champ

Big_Papa
05-07-2003, 04:41 PM
that's deep.

zioxoiz
05-07-2003, 09:53 PM
when will this end?

miller8966
05-08-2003, 01:03 AM
Tito rules

Prince
05-08-2003, 02:20 AM
miller8966 is correct.

ronnie dobbs
05-09-2003, 03:18 AM
tito is full of ****. he should be a man and fight chuck and when he loses he should just fade away. tito is full of **** about randleman. more like he pussed out and picked vlad. one thing i agree with tito about is that chuck did lose to bustamente. also i want to start my own forum so i can have douchebags kissing my ass like tito does. i wish one of those **** lipped fanboys would ask tito why he has such a big head. i think it is cus his mom was an acid freak in the 70's .

NYPOWERHITTA
05-11-2003, 06:06 AM
Tito will **** Chuck up !!!

ronnie dobbs
05-11-2003, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by NYPOWERHITTA
Tito will **** Chuck up !!!
dude what have you been smoking? i think you need cut back on the crack smoking if you think tito could whoop chuck.

Prince
05-11-2003, 12:46 PM
i pick tito over chuck or randy

TuffGuy
05-11-2003, 06:20 PM
Tito has every right to demand more money. I know Tito is a man of his word. He isnt affraid of Chuck. Tito deserves his cut. This would be Tito's toughest and biggest fight to date, why would you not pay him what he deserves? He has been the most marketed fighter in the U.S. He is a 6 time World Champion. It is a business on both ends. The UFC wants to give as little money as possible. The fighters want the most as possible. We all want to see this fight.

I feel the UFC has shown there true colors. They had money problems with Jens Pulver. The UFC was willing to pay only $10 K's more to Pulver then the number one contender, B J Penn. Pulver then left the UFC. What about Murillo Bustamante? Why havent we seen him fight lately? Money! The UFC was very unpleased with Josh Barnett during contract negotiations for the Couture fight. The UFC was in a bind so they gave him the money begrudgingly. They then vowed that he would never fight for the UFC again. This all points to a pattern. Zuffa /UFC dont take care of there fighters. I would understand if they fighters werent worthy. We are talking about there champions though. If they arent taken care how are the other fighters treated? There is a patern shown here. The UFC hasnt been to generous to the fighters who deserve it.

Tuffguy

TuffGuy
05-12-2003, 05:03 PM
That is a cool interview man. Thakns for posting that up!

NYPOWERHITTA
05-13-2003, 05:52 AM
Originally posted by ronnie dobbs
dude what have you been smoking? i think you need cut back on the crack smoking if you think tito could whoop chuck. Yo money, I don't smoke crack !! I train to hard to **** it up it w/ some bull**** like that !! I do know MMA & I do know that Tito is the motha****'nman @ 205 & will G&P Chuck's face w/ those NASTY forearms & punch's in bunch's !! Everyone want's to hate on Tito now ( just like before the Shamrock fight) & after he beat's down Chuck everyone will be on his dick again ! .... NY~POWER~HITT'A :cool:

submission_guy
05-18-2003, 07:11 AM
yes but chuck will be a lot harder to get down than tanner/shamrock

ronnie dobbs
05-19-2003, 08:56 PM
i been hating on tito long before the shamrock fight.