A lot of people have become BIG MMA fans for the very reason that the best fighters always fight the best out there! When you are the champ in MMA - there is no where to hide! Hence why the belts always changes hands. This is why MMA is taking over the world in combat sports. The American boxing scene is now realising that they have to do the same as MMA and allow the best to fight the best!

yeha but the best fought the best last night and it was like dancing with the stars.....i was dissapointed with the fight

Such Bull****. Maybe a year ago, but not anymore.

Dana White usually milks the champ for a few fights. He has GSP fighting like once a year almost.

He's trying to get the mexicans involved with Huerta. The Brits with bisping. The Canadians with GSP/Goulet/Cote on alot of cards.

It wont work because the product isn't that great. THey have to change the rules. Grapplers are given too much credit for lay n pray victories.

I havent heard anything about UFC anymore. Not even on tv. I like that in boxing great fighters can stay champ. It takes the fluke out of it and keeps it skill. I would rather see someone like Floyd or Joe C winning for so long and showing how great they are then the belt changing hands every week. If you want to break down the numbers as to why UFC is in bad shape I am more then willing to do that for you. I liked UFC and Pride, but it seems like they just have 5 or 6 guys that fight each other and thats it anymore. I dont care about Chuck vs Randy vs whoever. Its been done...too many times.

I havent heard anything about UFC anymore. Not even on tv. I like that in boxing great fighters can stay champ. It takes the fluke out of it and keeps it skill. I would rather see someone like Floyd or Joe C winning for so long and showing how great they are then the belt changing hands every week. If you want to break down the numbers as to why UFC is in bad shape I am more then willing to do that for you. I liked UFC and Pride, but it seems like they just have 5 or 6 guys that fight each other and thats it anymore. I dont care about Chuck vs Randy vs whoever. Its been done...too many times.

I agree with you.

I was a big fan with the product that Pride gave us. I felt the fighters were overall more skilled and used more science in fights.

the UFC has these fighters fighting in blood baths. Not much skill involved except the entertainment value is fairly high.

People are going to look past that. It's a fad.

I like watching talented people. I like to be in awe of someone or something when I am watching a sport. Not a classless display of dirty boxing. Which is what UFC has turned into.

I just cant get excited about MMA fights, ever.
The feeling of excitement and the hairs standing up on the back of my neck when they did the ring walk was well worth the 55 i paid for that PPV.
**** MMA, boxing still has it.

I haven't heard **** about UFC for a couple months now. But Boxing has had like 5 foty's in the last couple months.

A lot of people have become BIG MMA fans for the very reason that the best fighters always fight the best out there!

so then WHY in the hell is Chuck Liddel headlining yet ANOTHER PPV UFC fight after losing his last 2 fights by 1st round knock outs?

I like MMA but it isn't taking over ****. Boxing is and will remain the number one combat sport on the planet.

A lot of people have become BIG MMA fans for the very reason that the best fighters always fight the best out there! When you are the champ in MMA - there is no where to hide! Hence why the belts always changes hands. This is why MMA is taking over the world in combat sports. The American boxing scene is now realising that they have to do the same as MMA and allow the best to fight the best!

you like to watch guys wrestle on the ground, theres nothing wrong with that. this is a boxing forum, there are other places to voice your opinions. try the mma board!

Belts change hands because there are no dominant champions, thats not a good thing. You have guys that pick up the sport of MMA in their 20's and become champions, no way that happens in boxing in todays world because there is too much skill involved.

Belts change hand because there are no dominant champions, thats not a good thing. You have guys that pick up the sport of MMA in their 20's and become champions, no way that happens in boxing in todays world because there is too much skill involved.

Yep.

Some of these guys have been training for 4 years.

Most world class boxers (I'm talking 90%) started out boxing at a young age. Like around 10 or so. That's 10+ years of training. Not this funny **** that MMAers seem to do.

Wrestle for 10 years and then win the title.

Hughes anyone?

MMA is taking over is it? I don't think so. In the past 4-5 months, there have been 4-5 boxing cards that were more exciting than any card in the history of MMA. Last night it was proved that boxing could put on a major mainstream event without De La Hoya. Boxing is quickly taking over again. UFC has better marketing strategy, but boxing is unquestionably the better product, and people are gradually starting to see this.

Right now things are going great in the lower weight classes. We need heavyweight unification, and I'm hoping that the Klitschko-Ibragimov fight will have a domino effect and make the other titlists want to sign unification fights. If we could get an undisputed heavyweight champ by the end of next year, combined with all the great lower weight class fights, boxing will be leaving MMA completely in the dust.

Belts change hands because there are no dominant champions, thats not a good thing. You have guys that pick up the sport of MMA in their 20's and become champions, no way that happens in boxing in todays world because there is too much skill involved.
Dominant champions look at Anderson Silva, he has beaten Rich Frankiln who was the second best middleweight in the UFC since he lost the title and he is so good that Dan Henderson is the only fighter left that is capable of beating him in the next year, That is a dominant champion

Even former UFC Champ preferred Mayweather-Hatton over the TUF Finale!

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You have guys that pick up the sport of MMA in their 20's and become champions, no way that happens in boxing in todays world because there is too much skill involved.

You do realize that MMA really only started in the mid-late 90s right? Very few of the top guys now trained as kids because there was no MMA when they were kids! The newer crop of young guys is starting to have guys who have done MMA since they were kids though.

Boxing has been around for a LONG time, MMA is is still in it's beginning stages.

yeha but the best fought the best last night and it was like dancing with the stars.....i was dissapointed with the fight

That was a free card moron. It was not the top names in MMA by any stretch. Guida and Huerta are both up and comers, and the rest were mostly TUF guys. And still the fights were very good fights.

And FYI, I watched the Hatton-Mayweather fight on PPV and then watched the replay of the UFC fights. The Hatton-Mayweather fight was a great fight, but the UFC fights were pretty good too. Now the undercard of the boxing PPV was not very good IMO.

Did all ya'll boxing retards PM each other to come on here and say boxing is still the best full contact sport out there? To have a Champ that can dominate all the competition out there is too predictable (mayweather) or pac-man or whatever his name is. Its good that in mma around the world that the belt can change hands anytime, its more exciting, its unpredictable sport and fans like that. Boxing has all the skill? Training hard and going into a title fight as a underdog and winning, now that is skill. Instead of the mayweather has skill but who else does??? Nobody is gonna beat the man, so why even bother watching? I dunno. MMA is the fastest growing sport, its growing faster than boxing and passing it at such a young age. All ya'll calling down mma are the ones that are afraid and know that boxing is 2nd next to mma which still remains on top.

boxing vs mma discussions again.
i usualy don't like gettin involved in these but everything looks civilized so far.
i still think mma is getting the best on boxing with alot of great cards from top 2 bottom.
this past weekends TUF Finale was great every fight couldn't find a boring one all night, boxing's only hype i've been hearing was the mainevent, haven't seen it but i heard it was pretty good.
as far as kids training for mma since they were kids...mma was introduced in north america during ufc 1 when royce gracie won,that inspired quite a few of the well rounded fighters in mma 2 start training young an they are all starting 2 get into the mainstream UFC now, and i Guaratee now that there are kids out there who definately are training 2 fight in MMA when they get older.
and Boxing has even turned 2 having its fighters call down MMA fighters an promoters, a good example is Mayweather who said in many interviews that he could beat an mma fighter an that MMA sucks an all that crap, he did this publicaly 2 get MMA fans over 2 watch his completly boring boxing match against Oscar Dela Hoya, something he admitted in a post fight interview in which he stated that MMA was ok an it was just all hype.
i've got nothing against boxing its just not my thing, MMA has more variety in their fights instead of jus standing there an punching for 30 plus minutes.
just my 2 cents.
peace.

so then WHY in the hell is Chuck Liddel headlining yet ANOTHER PPV UFC fight after losing his last 2 fights by 1st round knock outs?

Check your facts, he lost his last fight by a split decision.





Some of these guys have been training for 4 years.

Most world class boxers (I'm talking 90%) started out boxing at a young age. Like around 10 or so. That's 10+ years of training. Not this funny **** that MMAers seem to do.

Wrestle for 10 years and then win the title.

Hughes anyone?

Ugh...how long has MMA really even been around? Fall of 1993 was the first UFC but the sport really didn't start until mid 90's and has evolved ever since. It should be a well known fact that MMA fighters today for the most part are still fighters who train in one style and started cross training in there 20's and 30's. For some reason you guys act like it makes it less legitimate and ignore the obvious facts thats its new and growing....every sport had to start at some point and evolve.

. Ugh...how long has MMA really even been around? Fall of 1993 was the first UFC but the sport really didn't start until mid 90's and has evolved ever since. It should be a well known fact that MMA fighters today for the most part are still fighters who train in one style and started cross training in there 20's and 30's. For some reason you guys act like it makes it less legitimate and ignore the obvious facts thats its new and growing....every sport had to start at some point and evolve.

UFC 1 was in '93. But the first guy to really cross train was Maurice Smith. He beat Silviera in late '96. Really, MMA as it is now is less than 10 years old. So common sense dictates that only the very young guys could have trained it as a kid as it was not around for the older guys to have trained when they were kids.

i just dont see why other people dont feel the same way i do. I respect anyone who fights weather it be mma or boxing. It takes alot to stand in there with another human being trained to hurt you.

MMA is probably closed to "true" combat due to the fact that you use every aspect and every inch of your body to obtain victory.

Boxing is honestly a tougher sport in my opinion, unlike MMA if you get stunned in boxing you cant tie up your opponent or attempt a take down to regain composure you gotta stand there and take it like man while your opponent continues to punch your face.

Like i said any man who fights at a professional level has my respect.