This would be a classic.

LL was the better boxer, the better technician and the more decorated fighter. But he had a suspect chin and Shavers had the hardest punch in history. A real KO specialist.

Lewis stands some 5" taller, but if Shavers landed it would be curtains. I guess I'm asking if LL could stay behind the jab for 12, cos I must believe that if Shavers landed, its good night nurse.

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I don't think Earnie could get past the jab. I'd take Lewis by UD or late KO.

Lewis would have to fight on the outside, pump the jab and them have the overhand shot as the shock punch.

I think Shavers KO's Lewis, Lewis gets caught way too much for my liking, and against puncher like Shavers thats disaster. I think Shavers KO's Lewis inside of 3, while being behind on points.

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Thats the debate in my mind. I am certain if Shavers landed Lewis would go, no questions. Can Lewis stay away ala Tua fight?

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Thats the debate in my mind. I am certain if Shavers landed Lewis would go, no questions. Can Lewis stay away ala Tua fight?

Even early in the Tua fight he was getting caught with wild hooks from Tua, Lewis is a great boxer no doubt. But he gets caught too much and like i said against puncher like Shavers who turns your lights out with one punch thats disaster.

Lewis' reach and skills would put Shavers away. Shavers chin was worse than Lewis' in my oppinion.
Shavers always has a punchers chance though so I'll give him that much.

Lewis stops him late after administering a tremendous beating.:fing02:

Lewis easily. Shavers wouldn't even get past the jab or the right hand. plus shavers fades late and thats when Lewis would demolish him. Lennox KO 9 you people are under estimating Lennox and are crazy if yall think that he would actually lose to a fighter that i don't even think became champion. Lewis was a dominate champion and beat everybody that he fought. Shavers was beaten by Tex Cobb who was never even a very good contender and a journeyman.

I think Shavers KO's Lewis, Lewis gets caught way too much for my liking, and against puncher like Shavers thats disaster. I think Shavers KO's Lewis inside of 3, while being behind on points.

looking for a lucky knockout is not a good thing because it won't always happen. especially since Lewis was such a masterful pure boxer. Lewis has fought plenty of power puncher's and has only been knocked out by lucky punchers who he took lightly. (Rachman and Mcall) but when he was prepared and ready to take a hard shot, he has showed a good chin. example, Morrison, Mercer, Bruno, Ruddock, Tua, Vitali, and Tyson was all power punchers and didn't knock Lennox out. (Tyson was past his prime but he still had a punchers chance) Lewis would out box Shavers and stop him late.

Point taken, but none of those guys bar Tyson hit as hard as Shavers. And we all know a peak Tyson would have taken Lennox out inside 2 rounds.

Shavers is often credited as the hardest puncher anyone ever faced, but he never had the overall skills to stop anybody worth a damn outside of the often koed Norton. He was small, limited, had poor stamina, and was stopped by lesser punchers than Lewis. I'd say Lewis easily keeps him at arm's reach and stops him very early.

Point taken, but none of those guys bar Tyson hit as hard as Shavers. And we all know a peak Tyson would have taken Lennox out inside 2 rounds.Well that's a matter of opinion isn't it?

I'd say its bordering on the factual.

I'd say its bordering on the factual.:rolleyes:

LL was the better boxer, the better technician and the more decorated fighter. But he had a suspect chin and Shavers had the hardest punch in history. A real KO specialist.

Lewis stands some 5" taller, but if Shavers landed it would be curtains. I guess I'm asking if LL could stay behind the jab for 12, cos I must believe that if Shavers landed, its good night nurse.

Who says Shavers was the hardest puncher in boxing history?You?
But anyway If Jerry Quarry and Ron Stander could both knock out the glass chin Shavers in one round then why would it take Lewis any longer to do so?
Besides Norton who was at the tell end of his career and based on people around him didn't care much about boxing anymore who else did Shavers stop?
If this fight could happen i don't Shavers lasting more than a few rounds at best.

By the way how many of you guys are Mike Tyson?None right and i could of sworn Tyson said he didn't want any part of Lewis which is the reason he paid him 4 million dollars to avoid him and so he could fight a past his prime Holyfield.Tyson said he knew he could never beat somebody like Lewis and since Tyson would know more about himself than you guys think you know about him i would say Lewis would knock any version of Mike Tyson out as well.

Shavers is often credited as the hardest puncher anyone ever faced, but he never had the overall skills to stop anybody worth a damn outside of the often koed Norton. He was small, limited, had poor stamina, and was stopped by lesser punchers than Lewis. I'd say Lewis easily keeps him at arm's reach and stops him very early.

Shavers did stop Jimmy Young, Jimmy Ellis, Roy Williams and Joe Bugner. Henry Clark was a decent fighter too and Shavers knocked him out in two.

I don't know about the whole 'hardest hitter of all time' nickname and who it belongs to but it's certain that Shavers was always a dangerous opponent for anyone.

Not saying he would KO Lewis though...

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Shavers against number 3 ranked heavyweight at the time Howard Smith.

I would take Lewis but if McCall and Rahman Could stop Lewis Shavers could certonly do it

Shavers did stop Jimmy Young, Jimmy Ellis, Roy Williams and Joe Bugner. Henry Clark was a decent fighter too and Shavers knocked him out in two.

I don't know about the whole 'hardest hitter of all time' nickname and who it belongs to but it's certain that Shavers was always a dangerous opponent for anyone.

Not saying he would KO Lewis though...

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Shavers against number 3 ranked heavyweight at the time Howard Smith.

A poor choice of words on my part. I know he could stop reasonable competition though to be fair Ellis was a fairly weak former "Champion" and Young was terribly experienced when he first got hammered by Shavers. He was certainly a threat to anyone but I really don't like his chances of beating the real elite.

I dont think, barring that flash knockdown against Akinwande that Lewis has ever climbed off the floor to win a fight. If Shavers found a similar right hand to the one he hit Holmes with, not a chance Lewis would get up.

That said I think Lewis would probably do a Tua like boxing exhibition and have just as much a chance to knock out Shavers too. In a three fight series I see Shavers coming away with one KO win.

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Thats the debate in my mind. I am certain if Shavers landed Lewis would go, no questions. Can Lewis stay away ala Tua fight?

Lewis' chin isn't as bad as many think. He took huge shots off some big hitters, but cos he didn't fall over they were not great punches.

Tua landed a couple of big shots as did Tyson,Klitchko,Mercer,Morrison and Briggs. Not an excuse but if Lewis was up and prepared to take the shot then his chin was solid. He walked straight onto the McCall punch and had no time to brace himself for it, and Rahman he bounced off the ropes and again came onto it.

Rahman even hit him plenty before and after in the rematch with just as good punches but they had no effect.

Shavers could seriously bang and yes he could knock Lewis out, but I'd put my money on Lewis wearing him down and knocking him out.

shavers had a suspect chin!

whoever landed a big punch first would win. lewis is the better boxer so i pick him!

Lewis easily. Shavers wouldn't even get past the jab or the right hand. plus shavers fades late and thats when Lewis would demolish him. Lennox KO 9 you people are under estimating Lennox and are crazy if yall think that he would actually lose to a fighter that i don't even think became champion. Lewis was a dominate champion and beat everybody that he fought. Shavers was beaten by Tex Cobb who was never even a very good contender and a journeyman.
True All valid points but you have to remember Cobb had one of the best chins in the buisness

True All valid points but you have to remember Cobb had one of the best chins in the buisness

And Shavers was faded by that point.

His punch still carried power as shown in his two round TKO win over the iron-chinned Joe Bugner years later but he ran out of gas in about two rounds against Cobb.

Probably the worst shape I've ever seen him in, the fight was a joke.
It ended when Cobb arm punched Shavers with pitty-pats while Shavers could not even lift his arms to protect himself.

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Compare Shavers' pitiful conditioning here in the 8th round against 'Tex' Cobb

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to the late rounds here against Muhammad Ali. Probably the only fight he was ever in condition for...

if shavers stood up 2 12 rounds of ali, then im sure ge could do the same wit lewis. I say shavers by totally knocking the fuk out of lewis!

if shavers stood up 2 12 rounds of ali, then im sure ge could do the same wit lewis. I say shavers by totally knocking the fuk out of lewis!


People like to critize Lewis chin but Ali was pretty much knocked out with one punch by Herny Cooper a light heavyweight and Doug Jones a light heayweight.Last time checked Lewis punched harder than Ali did.Going 12 rounds with Ali proved nothing infact i showed Ali couldnt punch worth a damn.Ali scored knock outs only when the other guy gassed himself out.Shavers was knocked many times in his career and Lewis would do the same.

if shavers stood up 2 12 rounds of ali, then im sure ge could do the same wit lewis. I say shavers by totally knocking the fuk out of lewis!

He actually stood up to 15 with Ali.

yeah yeah yeah

Lennox Lewis would win, Lewis has dealt with heavy hitters, yet his style of fighting with his body hight and reach makes him the best boxer.

If they fought 3 times, Lewis will emerge 2-1. On one occasion, he'd get sparked. I'm certain of it.