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GhostInMachines
12-09-2007, 02:35 PM
i was thinking about it, and they say you can train abs everyday, so shouldnt you be able to do calves at the same rate too, since your always using them when you walk and giving them a workout anyways?

fraidycat
12-09-2007, 03:30 PM
It depends how hard you train them. The general rule is, don't train a bodypart while it's still sore if you want to make your muscles grow.

I do 50 crunches every morning but that's more for toning; I really crank on my abs about twice a week with 5 different exercises. Same with pushups and chins; I do 50 pushups a few times a day and 5 or 6 chins a few times a day, and once or twice a week I'll do a few sets of each in a row and get a good workout that makes me sore. This is in addition to work at the gym, of course.

GhostInMachines
12-09-2007, 03:40 PM
on my off day i try and do plies so thats prob enough for the legs so i dont think ill be doing calf raises evrday

kryo
12-09-2007, 03:43 PM
i was thinking about it, and they say you can train abs everyday, so shouldnt you be able to do calves at the same rate too, since your always using them when you walk and giving them a workout anyways?

**** you, terrorist.

GhostInMachines
12-09-2007, 03:58 PM
**** you, terrorist.

haah u have no idea wat u r talking about i must be training in some suicide camp in israel right

GhostInMachines
12-09-2007, 03:59 PM
lol im a white kid from a city/suburb near boston

u do understand all my name means is 'the base'

fraidycat
12-09-2007, 06:34 PM
u do understand all my name means is 'the base'

In some Arabic dialects, it also means, "The toilet."

Seriously. The term comes from the Arabic verb "Qa'ada," which means, "to sit."

"Ana rai'icha Al Qa'eda," means, "I'm going to take a ****."

In many Arab countries there are two kinds of toilets: "Al-Qa'eda," meaning "the sitter," politely called the "Ham'am Franji'i" or foreign toilet, and "Ham'am Arabi'i," or "Arab toilet," which is a hole in the ground; what we call a "squatty potty."

Thus endeth the lesson. Watch what you name yourself, Toilet Boy.

GhostInMachines
12-09-2007, 07:04 PM
In some Arabic dialects, it also means, "The toilet."

Seriously. The term comes from the Arabic verb "Qa'ada," which means, "to sit."

"Ana rai'icha Al Qa'eda," means, "I'm going to take a ****."

In many Arab countries there are two kinds of toilets: "Al-Qa'eda," meaning "the sitter," politely called the "Ham'am Franji'i" or foreign toilet, and "Ham'am Arabi'i," or "Arab toilet," which is a hole in the ground; what we call a "squatty potty."

Thus endeth the lesson. Watch what you name yourself, Toilet Boy.


thanks for the lesson, its pretty common knowledge.
alot of stuff has other meanings, and the name as i chose it has nothing to do with that organization anyways

fraidycat
12-09-2007, 07:26 PM
the name as i chose it has nothing to do with that organization anyways

So, it's a toilet thing?

j/k.

Maybe.

kryo
12-09-2007, 07:33 PM
thanks for the lesson, its pretty common knowledge.
alot of stuff has other meanings, and the name as i chose it has nothing to do with that organization anyways

Whatever you say, terorrist, that's like me making my name "******" (N!GGER) and say it means someone who can't read.. I mean afterall, that's what it meant in the beginning!

You're an idiot.

GhostInMachines
12-09-2007, 09:13 PM
Whatever you say, terorrist, that's like me making my name "******" (N!GGER) and say it means someone who can't read.. I mean afterall, that's what it meant in the beginning!

You're an idiot.

" i dont like terrorist", ok?.

wow if this is such a big deal maybe ill change it
is tolietboy less offensive? ill change it to that if u want sure why not, i mean cause apparently i love this name so much ill take on any translation of it even in "certain arab dilects" cause u no when i think of alqaeda the first word that comes to mind is lets take a ****... wow not like i didnt try at least 10 or 15 other names first that were already taken and i guess tha means i must wear shirts saying go alqaeda and whatnot. plus at least i bet the FBI isnt reading your emails now like they prob are with me... this name wasnt the greatest idea.
you kind of have to.... do stuff involving terror to be a terrorist... if my name was sharkman302 does that mean i hang out with sharks and participate in shark-like business? no thats absurd lol u prob think al qaeda was behind sept 11 anyways stupid they havent done anything to u, which would probably be the only reason you would be offended i doubt u give a **** about the middle east

if you knew anything about rap u might not be crying right now every rapper has a surname. go call jadakiss tolietboy or terrorist im sure hed be glad to hear it

GhostInMachines
12-09-2007, 09:18 PM
So, it's a toilet thing?

j/k.

Maybe.

lol u got me there

ive made like 2 posts and all ive gotten is ppl goin off on me whats the deal jadakiss goes by alqaeda jada,(you have heard of jadakiss, i have a feeling you might not have) hes from newyork, how do you think he feels about terrorist attacks that supposedly happened in this country?whats the big deal
no one is like this in real life ppl are so disagreeable online

cant wait for the 'ya right online or real life doesnt matter dude id blast u if i ever saw u'...lol

GhostInMachines
12-10-2007, 02:47 AM
http://www.mixtapemogul.com/images/djkeyz_alqaedajada.giflol if u met with no idea who i was the last thing ud prob call me is an idiot

sorry dude im just desensitized to the name alqaeda i guess
something tells me this toliet name did not start until after the group was assembled, most likely as an insult to their organization, hence the 'only in select arab dialects" part. i mean do you really think these dudes were sitting around together one day thinking of a name and were like i got it!! were ''the toliet"!!!no, ppl were like **** these guys.. maybe i should stick with the name, how r u gonna fight a toliet? if i lose or get broken open then ur house gets flooded, win-win for me i guess

Juniorvt
12-10-2007, 03:25 AM
It depends how hard you train them. The general rule is, don't train a bodypart while it's still sore if you want to make your muscles grow. .

where the Heck did you hear that. it's scienitificly proven workout out when your sore has no affect and it reduces soreness

GhostInMachines
12-10-2007, 04:30 AM
where the Heck did you hear that. it's scienitificly proven workout out when your sore has no affect and it reduces soreness

thankyou for saving this hijacked thread

SpeedKillz
12-10-2007, 08:41 AM
you can definitely do abs everyday! as far as lifting weight for ur calves i dono. i would give it some time off from that, but abs daily is a staple of my routine...

fraidycat
12-10-2007, 10:07 AM
where the Heck did you hear that. it's scienitificly proven workout out when your sore has no affect and it reduces soreness

Cite your references; I'd be curious to read that. Training when you're sore is called overtraining, and it inhibits muscle growth. Do you understand how muscles grow? The soreness after a workout is caused by microscopic tears in the muscle fibers from stress, and damage from lactic acid. When those rips and that damage heal -- when you're not sore anymore -- the muscle fibers have regrown, stronger and microscopically thicker. Then you do it again, wait for it to heal, and do it again. Eventually, the muscles are visibly larger and able to handle larger loads without tearing, which is what makes you strong.

There is a theory that you can speed up neuromuscular programming by overtraining, and NMP causes some initial strength gains, but you have to take time to heal if you want to gain muscle. Period.

GhostInMachines
12-10-2007, 03:47 PM
all of this seems true, but it just seems your calves or certain parts of your legs are on a different level than say your biceps, without exercise they are not really used at all day by day compared to your calves, which have to lift hundreds of pounds with each step and they could at least be lightly trained everyday since you do that to them anyways. i used to get a weighted backpack and just do calf raises on the edge of stairs, and its basically doing what your legs always do anyways.

Landon S
12-10-2007, 05:56 PM
where the Heck did you hear that. it's scienitificly proven workout out when your sore has no affect and it reduces soreness

some light work reduces soreness but its just not smart to do a full calve workout when your sore. I think jumping rope and roadwork is enough by itself but I like to do burpees or things of that nature for them as well if you work hard enough its conditions you as well.

fraidycat
12-10-2007, 07:22 PM
all of this seems true, but it just seems your calves or certain parts of your legs are on a different level than say your biceps,

**** "seems true." Go where the science is. www.bodybuilding.com and/or www.t-nation.com . Go. Read. Learn. Bodybuilding is on the cutting edge of nutrition and physiology, and while I don't advocate "getting huge" to help your boxing (it won't), there is such an abundance of information in the worlds of bodybuilding and strength training that you'd be a ****ing moron to not go talk to these guys, or at least read the articles. Even casual meathead gym rats know a hundred times more about exercise physiology and athletic training science than it seems most boxers do.

There are notable exceptions on this board, and one at my gym, but on the whole, I have never in my life met a group of athletes who knew less about physiology and even rudimentary exercise theory than boxers. And I used to fence, guys! ****ing FENCERS know this **** better than you do!

This holds true for posters on boxing boards as well as boxers I've met in real life; ****, a trainer at a gym I was checking out makes his fighters go through a 2 1/2 hour workout every night with NO WATER BREAKS, because he says, "Water makes you weak." I am not making this up. When his fighters puke from dehydration or get cramps, he yells at them, telling them they need to get stronger. At the end of the 2 1/2-hour workout, he makes them run two miles on a track, still with no water. And you're not allowed to even BRING water to drink after the workout. :nonono:

A couple of years ago there was a guy on this board who was telling someone who complained of a cramp while running to, "dig your fingers into your side because that will pop the bubbles." I'm not making that up, either. You can search for it.

:purity: So, WHAT THE ****, people. It's not that hard. If you knew a fraction of the **** that every fake-tanned fratboy dickhead cranking out curls at Gold's Gym knows, you'd be in much better condition, and you'd have gotten there faster. Go learn something. I'm happy to spread the knowledge that I have, but sometimes I want to put my own head through the wall when I read some of these replies.

/rant

GhostInMachines
12-10-2007, 10:41 PM
hey be easy, I have a decent knowledge on this stuff, but i mean who knows everything thats why im asking questions. I mean all i really know about this is that when you work out, it tears your muscles, then they rebuild, so how can you constantly work them out if they never get to rebuild and are just constantly torn? Muscles are like a sculpture, you build it up, then when you work out, it gets torn apart. Then you get a couple days to build again,it takes time to make art, its not instantaneous. but this time, now you have more clay, so this time its bigger and has more mass/defintion. IDK man a muscle is a muscle if its on ur neck, leg or ur ass. whatever on second thought why am i even asking this its kind of stupid and odvious, and as i look back on cats post he already stated all this so hes not sort of or kinda right he nailed it.

GhostInMachines
12-10-2007, 10:45 PM
as for the reduces sorness part.. that may be true, you may feel less pain after working it out the next day, but your muscles arent getting any bigger, waste of time. i feel like a moron for not agreeing with cat from the beginning

btw bodybuilding.com is a great website ive been going to it for years very large database on workouts and advice

Sm00th
12-11-2007, 01:00 PM
if i run 3miles on a mon, tues, sat & sun. Is this enough to getmy abs visible. They arent quite!. I do weights wed thur n fri?

SpeedKillz
12-11-2007, 01:09 PM
if i run 3miles on a mon, tues, sat & sun. Is this enough to getmy abs visible. They arent quite!. I do weights wed thur n fri?

depends on your diet

Sm00th
12-11-2007, 02:09 PM
well i have tuna & rice for breakfast @ 7.00am, rivita bar @ 10.00am 1.30pm meat/tuna salad bowl, 6.00pm something meat based & veggs. Sometimes a bowl of cereal about 8/9pm.

i weigh about 12.5st

is this over training?

GhostInMachines
12-11-2007, 02:40 PM
well i have tuna & rice for breakfast @ 7.00am, rivita bar @ 10.00am 1.30pm meat/tuna salad bowl, 6.00pm something meat based & veggs. Sometimes a bowl of cereal about 8/9pm.

i weigh about 12.5st

is this over training?

tuna is bomb for protein its got like 40 grams if u eat the whole thing idk ur diet seems good, add some fruit i guess and lots of water ur good to go.

Sm00th
12-11-2007, 03:06 PM
thats another thing. ive heard so many ppl say water is good/bad for you when tryin to shed body fat.

surely theres a factual answer?!

fraidycat
12-11-2007, 04:22 PM
thats another thing. ive heard so many ppl say water is good/bad for you when tryin to shed body fat.

surely theres a factual answer?!

:banghead:

That's it for me. I'm outta here for awhile. KingDosia has my contact info if anyone needs me.

GhostInMachines
12-11-2007, 04:28 PM
no no no you couldnt be farther from the truth water is the best fat remover you can find. you need it to gain muscle weight, and to lose fat weight. it eliminates off fat and drains out toxins with exercise, and is needed to fuel your muscles to get bigger, so all around it is key for nutrition. water has no calories, or anything really of that matter, how could it be bad for you. apparently some ppl think it makes you weak, their idiots. i drink a gallon of water a day, thats 8 lbs, and by the next morning its all gone. it flushes all the garbage out of your system that usually turns to fat, so it prevents fat in the first place.
your kidneys need water to operate, its your bodies natural filtration system. without water your body wont be able to eliminate these fats. thats why beer gives you a gut- it dehydrates you, and shuts down your liver. hence the beer belly

GhostInMachines
12-11-2007, 04:46 PM
thats another thing. ive heard so many ppl say water is good/bad for you when tryin to shed body fat.

surely theres a factual answer?!

also, your about 75% water. think about it.

Sm00th
12-11-2007, 05:06 PM
thanks alot man :) u know ya stuff!!

GhostInMachines
12-11-2007, 05:34 PM
thanks alot man :) u know ya stuff!!

lol if someone tells you water is bad for you again slap them in the mouth for me please :fing02: