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apollack
11-23-2007, 12:30 PM
Coming Soon: In the Ring With Bob Fitzsimmons

This is the third book in Adam Pollack’s series on the heavyweight champions of the gloved era. Bob Fitzsimmons was boxing’s first pound for pound great, winning the world middleweight title before becoming the world heavyweight champion (and later lightheavyweight champ). Combining both crafty skill and crushing power, Fitzsimmons was able to knock out heavyweights when he only weighed 158 pounds!

This meticulous and tremendously researched book uses multiple local primary sources from New Zealand, Australia, and America to chronicle Fitzsimmons’ boxing career. It contains detailed fight descriptions never before revealed, round by round reports, pre- and post-fight analysis, daily training regimens, critical analysis of opponents’ careers, discussion of skills, techniques, strategies, strengths, and weaknesses, and explains how legal, political, social, and economic issues affected and impeded fights.

The book also includes stories of fixed fights, conspiracies, legal battles, trials, threats of violence and imprisonment made by governors, judges, and militiamen, and verbal jousting, taunting, boasting, and even physical confrontations between Bob Fitzsimmons and James J. Corbett.

464 pages, 63 photos and illustrations, 968 footnotes, bibliography, index, and appendix (containing a complete Fitzsimmons career record).

Adam J. Pollack is the author of John L. Sullivan: The Career of the First Gloved Heavyweight Champion, and In the Ring With James J. Corbett.

LondonRingRules
11-23-2007, 05:00 PM
Coming Soon: In the Ring With Bob Fitzsimmons


** Excellent trilogy on a forgotten era lost in time.

"Hit him in the slats Bob," or something thereof reportedly uttered by his wife during the Corbett bout, and Bob did just that to Corbetts dismay. Wonder if any good info has been recovered from possible interviews with his wife?

Ishak Pasha
11-23-2007, 05:04 PM
the first triple crown champion cannot be forgotten. :)

phallus
11-24-2007, 01:44 AM
fitzsimmons will be the only man to be undisputed at 160 and hw. he didn't look like much but he could punch, he worked as a blacksmith. fitz was also a ginger

apollack
12-03-2007, 03:56 PM
In the Ring With Bob Fitzsimmons is now available.

To order, contact info@winbykopublications.com

Hardback, $34.95 plus shipping. Will sign if desired.

Contents
Preface: The Series Continues 4
1. Australian Boxing 6
2. The Underappreciated Middleweight 9
3. Fixing a Loss or Losing in a Fix? 32
4. American Appreciation 53
5. World Middleweight Champion 70
6. Testing the Heavyweight Waters 94
7. Exhibition Tour 112
8. Revenge 125
9. All Comers Exhibitions Resumed 148
10. Making the Challenge 156
11. Still the Middleweight Champion 172
12. Death and Delay 189
13. Boxing Versus the Law 213
14. The New “Champion” 230
15. The Championship Cloud 252
16. The Fix 266
17. The Fight After the Fight 309
18. Paving the Way, Predictions and Preparation 328
19. The Real Championship 374
20. The Films and the Controversy 401
21. Another Semi-Retired Champion 421
Appendix: Bob Fitzsimmons’ Record 434
Bibliography 453
Acknowledgments 456
Index 458


Preface: The Series Continues


Welcome to the world of the fight to the finish, where championship bouts continued until someone was knocked out, where there were no mouthpieces, no handwraps, no protective foul cups, no training headgear, where floors and ring posts were often hard, when gloves were only five ounces and the eight-ounce glove was considered a big pillow to only be used in friendly exhibitions, when fights were never stopped on cuts, when a fight was rarely stopped just because a guy was a little wobbly or because he went down a number of times, where even decisions were based on who did the most damage and was the more aggressive, not just based on who knew how to tap, run, grab and survive. This was a time when your pay depended on success, when the phrase ‘winner take all’ was not just a bluff. These were some tough guys.

This is the third book in my heavyweight champion series, Reigns of Fame and Shame. The first two were John L. Sullivan: The Career of the First Gloved Heavyweight Champion, and In the Ring With James J. Corbett. My goal has been to answer the questions that no other book answered. I wanted history based not on speculation, hearsay, and legend, but based on what local reports said at the time.

I have found that achieving the richest and most complete understanding of these fighters’ careers is accomplished by reference to multiple local primary source accountings. These accounts enliven the opponents and the fights, offer new facts, discuss issues that secondary sources failed to consider, and give fresh perspective on matters previously only discussed in a limited or incomplete way. Greater than ever before, this book offers a much stronger understanding of Bob Fitzsimmons’ career, skills, and ability, and the era’s fight scene, including top contenders and the legal, political, and social issues which affected the fight game.

Using mostly local contemporary newspaper reports, this book provides a more thorough analysis and detailed discussion of:

Bob Fitzsimmons’ many Australian bouts. Local Australian primary sources shed new light on Fitz’s early career, and show the long road he took to stardom. Because so many of the era’s great fighters were produced in Australia, to understand the world’s fight scene one must be familiar with Australian boxing.

Fitz’s alleged fixed fight with Jim Hall. Find out whether Bob took a dive.

The legal and political fallout from the deaths of Con Riordan and Andy Bowen.

The alleged fixed fight with Tom Sharkey. The behind the scenes story is itself worth the price of admission. The court battle and all the sensational testimony are fully covered. Was it a grand conspiracy?

The complete back and forth verbal jousting, taunting, and confident exclamations between Fitzsimmons and Jim Corbett. No other fight ever had as much free advertising and hot discussion as a result of its mouthy combatants. They were the kings of smack talk, the inventors of building up fights with verbal and even physical confrontation.

The unbelievable legal and political battles the boxers and promoter Dan Stuart had to go through in order to bring fights off. This story has governors, armed militiamen, and judges threatening violence and lengthy prison sentences, following, chasing, and arresting these men, and generally impeding the sport’s progress in any way that they could.

All of Fitzsimmons’ American fights and most of his exhibitions (up to the heavyweight championship), including lesser known and previously unknown bouts, and massive pre- and post-fight coverage of his most significant bouts. This also includes Fitz and Corbett’s daily training regimen leading up to their big fight. Even new controversial facts about the Corbett fight are revealed.

I hope you enjoy learning about Bob Fitzsimmons as much as I did!

ZZZzzz.......
12-03-2007, 04:59 PM
bob was an odd looking man.his legacy certainly intrigued me,as the first man to wim the middleweight title lheavyweight title ,and heavyweight title.

Sweet Pete
12-03-2007, 08:18 PM
Where do you guys rank him all time on a P4P basis?

I usually don't put him in my rankings(or at least among the tops), but feel I should. Based on head to head ability he doesn't rank anywhere near someone like a Whitaker or Jones, but on legacy he outranks both.

ZZZzzz.......
12-03-2007, 08:24 PM
Where do you guys rank him all time on a P4P basis?

I usually don't put him in my rankings(or at least among the tops), but feel I should. Based on head to head ability he doesn't rank anywhere near someone like a Whitaker or Jones, but on legacy he outranks both.

i had him at number 5 i believe at some point,im still figuring it out though,don't have a definitive list yet.

ferocity
12-03-2007, 10:01 PM
bob was an odd looking man.his legacy certainly intrigued me,as the first man to wim the middleweight title lheavyweight title ,and heavyweight title.

Damn, i didn't know all that. That would be six divisions today.

BROOKLYN CESAR
12-03-2007, 10:38 PM
Being he was born in england and grew up in nz then made a name for himself boxing in oz he wouldve had a big fan base if he was around boxing today!!!

I think what he did in boxing back then is a great accomplishment!!! Bobs the man thats for sure!!! Cant doubt that he is a legend!!!

apollack
12-04-2007, 03:29 PM
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ZZZzzz.......
12-04-2007, 07:37 PM
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what the f&ck is that ?a virus?

ferocity
12-04-2007, 09:40 PM
Being he was born in england and grew up in nz then made a name for himself boxing in oz he wouldve had a big fan base if he was around boxing today!!!

I think what he did in boxing back then is a great accomplishment!!! Bobs the man thats for sure!!! Cant doubt that he is a legend!!!

No doubt. What i hate is when people don't know about these old time fighters and diss them because they don't fight like todays boxer or whatever reason. But respect must always be shown to the pioneers of boxing. So many great fighters with names that i probably havn't even heard of.

Brunswick Assassin
12-04-2007, 11:16 PM
"Aussie" Bob Fitzsimmons is the Man being the first ever fighter to win World Titles at Middleweight, Heavyweight and Light Heavyweight. And the guy could certainly punch! Bob was also a 'Very' proud Old School fighter who took the long and arduous road which shows his perseverence is in the same class as Jersey Joe Walcott.

Mike Tyson77
12-05-2007, 02:41 AM
Jack Johnson put him away in 2 rounds...

Sweet Pete
12-05-2007, 03:50 PM
Jack Johnson put him away in 2 rounds...
Danny Williams put Tyson away in 4, which is more embarassing?

Mike Tyson77
12-05-2007, 10:28 PM
Danny Williams put Tyson away in 4, which is more embarassing?



Embarassing for Williams, cause Tyson blew out his knee in the first round. Tyson even had Danny on queer street in the first before he blew out his knee.

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12-15-2007, 04:04 PM
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