Should I be going to failure when doing push-ups? pull ups? or should I go to a certain # of reps?

I was thinking to build more muscular endurance going to failure might be better since im pushing till I cant do anymore. But limiting myself to a 'maximum' # of reps per set would let me do better quality reps with better form...

Should I be going to failure when doing push-ups? pull ups? or should I go to a certain # of reps?

I was thinking to build more muscular endurance going to failure might be better since im pushing till I cant do anymore. But limiting myself to a 'maximum' # of reps per set would let me do better quality reps with better form...

from what i understand, you should never work to failure...

Should I be going to failure when doing push-ups? pull ups? or should I go to a certain # of reps?

I was thinking to build more muscular endurance going to failure might be better since im pushing till I cant do anymore. But limiting myself to a 'maximum' # of reps per set would let me do better quality reps with better form...


um what I used to do was go to failure 1st like to see how many push-ups I can do, then after words put them into sets. Example, if I can go up to 90 pushups, I start out another day doing 20 reps for 5 sets=100pushups. Pullups-max 30+, work out of 8-10 reps 5sets.

from what i understand, you should never work to failure...

why you say that?

why you say that?

because it is idiocy, it burns out your central nervous system with an evident benefit.

Say you can do 100 pushups to failure, but it would be better if you do three sets of 50, doing total of 150 pushups(remember, 10 sets of 3 = 3 sets of 10) and be less exhausted.

because it is idiocy, it burns out your central nervous system with an evident benefit.

Say you can do 100 pushups to failure, but it would be better if you do three sets of 50, doing total of 150 pushups(remember, 10 sets of 3 = 3 sets of 10) and be less exhausted.

lol I didn't mean go to failure then do a work out. I meant do that for 1 day this way you got something to work from...I think the results I got are fine, unless you don't understand what I mean.

because it is idiocy, it burns out your central nervous system with an evident benefit.

Say you can do 100 pushups to failure, but it would be better if you do three sets of 50, doing total of 150 pushups(remember, 10 sets of 3 = 3 sets of 10) and be less exhausted.

thats sort of how Ive been doing it so far but I can only do around 50 till failure. So going by what your saying I should be doing 3 sets of 25??? that is just to easy. Sure I'd be able to do it everyday but its NOTHING. hell since I posted this Ive done 80 and I'll be doing more while waiting 4 a response. Well....how close to failure should I go each set? Since I can do 50 at once?

FYI I do them proper. My chest touches each time, I actually go deeper than you could on the floor since I do them on dumbells which raises me about 3 inches.

always push a litle passed the comfort zone but not till failiure

on the heavy bags and mitts my trainer says never work to failure because of muscle memory....

thats sort of how Ive been doing it so far but I can only do around 50 till failure. So going by what your saying I should be doing 3 sets of 25??? that is just to easy. Sure I'd be able to do it everyday but its NOTHING. hell since I posted this Ive done 80 and I'll be doing more while waiting 4 a response. Well....how close to failure should I go each set? Since I can do 50 at once?

Then do 3 sets of 35.

It's even better.

You have to push yourself, but don't kill yourself

Should I be going to failure when doing push-ups? pull ups? or should I go to a certain # of reps?

I was thinking to build more muscular endurance going to failure might be better since im pushing till I cant do anymore. But limiting myself to a 'maximum' # of reps per set would let me do better quality reps with better form...
Don't push to failure as repitition of the exercise ****s up the cartillage in the shoulders.....I pushed myself to the limit for years and am suffering now for it.....BELIEVE ME

Then do 3 sets of 35.

It's even better.

You have to push yourself, but don't kill yourself

thanks for the help....don't go to failure got it

on the heavy bags and mitts my trainer says never work to failure because of muscle memory....

what do you mean? can you elaborate?

what do you mean? can you elaborate?

if you keep going after you've become completely tired, you will throw with poor technique and develope bad habits.

You should do it in sets and go to failure on your last set. So after your last set you can not physically do one more. That's what I do when lifting at it works.

You should do it in sets and go to failure on your last set. So after your last set you can not physically do one more. That's what I do when lifting at it works.

how does that work? like if when u say u go to failure on ur last set, do u mean if ur working like ur chest and back one day, on the very last chest exercise on the very last set u go to failure? or each exercise u do u go to failure on each last set?

how does that work? like if when u say u go to failure on ur last set, do u mean if ur working like ur chest and back one day, on the very last chest exercise on the very last set u go to failure? or each exercise u do u go to failure on each last set?

You only go to failure on the last set of the last exercise for that muscle.

I do

Mon - Chest & Biceps

Tue - Back & Triceps

Wed - Off

Thurs - Legs

Fri - Shoulders & Back

So Basically on Monday when doing chest I'll do 3 sets of 10 reps for each exercise. So if i'm doing a normal bench press I do for example...

Warm up

10 reps @ 60kg

10 reps @ 80kg

10 reps @ 100kg

You want to make it for you're lifting the correct amount of weight so that after the last rep of the last set you can't possibly do no more. Basically the muscle fails. If somebody offered you $10,000 to do one more rep you just could not physically do it.

You only go to failure on the last set of the last exercise for that muscle.

I do

Mon - Chest & Biceps

Tue - Back & Triceps

Wed - Off

Thurs - Legs

Fri - Shoulders & Back

So Basically on Monday when doing chest I'll do 3 sets of 10 reps for each exercise. So if i'm doing a normal bench press I do for example...

Warm up

10 reps @ 60kg

10 reps @ 80kg

10 reps @ 100kg

You want to make it for you're lifting the correct amount of weight so that after the last rep of the last set you can't possibly do no more. Basically the muscle fails. If somebody offered you $10,000 to do one more rep you just could not physically do it.

i see. i guess that is working for u. it looks like u got a decent body part split there to recover and all that.

do you read t-mag at all? that site is great!

i see. i guess that is working for u. it looks like u got a decent body part split there to recover and all that.

do you read t-mag at all? that site is great!

No mate. I only use this (www.bodybuilding.com). It's unbelievable and has everything I could possibly need. I'm into bodybuilding myself. I wouldn't recommend traning like that for boxers.

Boxers would probably want to do less reps bet use more of an explosive movement where as bodybuilders want to slowly control the weight all the way through the rep to tear asmany fibers and fully stretch the muscle.

No mate. I only use this (www.bodybuilding.com) (http://www.bodybuilding.com)). It's unbelievable and has everything I could possibly need. I'm into bodybuilding myself. I wouldn't recommend traning like that for boxers.

Boxers would probably want to do less reps bet use more of an explosive movement where as bodybuilders want to slowly control the weight all the way through the rep to tear asmany fibers and fully stretch the muscle.

oh no i dont train like that at all. i was jus sayin i used to do alot olympic lifting back in the day, and i used to read t-mag alot its a great site, great coaches, great info. bodybuilding.com is great too, but t-mag is awesome dude you should check it out you will DEF like it.

www.t-nation.com (http://www.t-nation.com)

oh no i dont train like that at all. i was jus sayin i used to do alot olympic lifting back in the day, and i used to read t-mag alot its a great site, great coaches, great info. bodybuilding.com is great too, but t-mag is awesome dude you should check it out you will DEF like it.

www.t-nation.com (http://www.t-nation.com)

Yeah it looks good.

Thanks :fing02:

Quick way to overtraining and getting sick IMO. What would make me uncomfortable would be the form. Long before complete muscle failure you will start to use improper form, then you could end up with some serious injury.

Kind of tough to box when doing something like that that is going to take at least 72 hours to recover from. Only people I have known who have done it regularly (more often than once every 3 weeks or so) were on some sort of substance, either Ridalin, or Dianabol, Anadrol ect..... they all had good results, but then again were juicing or on Ridalin. I'm not sure how Ridalin helps but it was very popular with bodybuilders at the local gym i was lifting at.

But then again New Jersey must be roid central anyways. These guys will take anything to ad 1/4 inch to their "guns"

Quick way to overtraining and getting sick IMO. What would make me uncomfortable would be the form. Long before complete muscle failure you will start to use improper form, then you could end up with some serious injury.

Kind of tough to box when doing something like that that is going to take at least 72 hours to recover from. Only people I have known who have done it regularly (more often than once every 3 weeks or so) were on some sort of substance, either Ridalin, or Dianabol, Anadrol ect..... they all had good results, but then again were juicing or on Ridalin. I'm not sure how Ridalin helps but it was very popular with bodybuilders at the local gym i was lifting at.

But then again New Jersey must be roid central anyways. These guys will take anything to ad 1/4 inch to their "guns"

It's best to mix your traning up so you constantly surprise your body and don't get stuck at a plateu. Use burnouts or supersets to keep your muscles guessing.

Traning to failure will give you good results but after a few month the gains will stop. Thats when you need to mix it up.

I would agree tuggers, if it was a bodybuilding forum.

I would agree tuggers, if it was a bodybuilding forum.

If you read my posts in this thread you would see I've already said I'm talking about bodybuilding and not actually boxing traning. He asked about traning to failure and I answered.

Traning a muscle to failure is exactly the same no matter what sport you're training for.

"Traning a muscle to failure is exactly the same no matter what sport you're training for."

That is understood, but the extra recovery time would not be suitable for a boxing regime.

You cannot take days off sertain body parts to work others, and you would be more prone to over-training and injury. Keep in mind it is a boxing forum, so everything will get related to boxing.

"Traning a muscle to failure is exactly the same no matter what sport you're training for."

That is understood, but the extra recovery time would not be suitable for a boxing regime.

You cannot take days off sertain body parts to work others, and you would be more prone to over-training and injury. Keep in mind it is a boxing forum, so everything will get related to boxing.

I never said training to failure is a good idea either. Because I dont think it is. He asked about it and i explained it. Simple.