how the hell did marvis get a shot at holmes with that record?i was checking out box rec after watching tyson dismantle frazier,and i couldn't believe how he got a shot at holmes with that record.seriously,wtf?

Hmmmmm,well uhhhh,his dad is Joe Frazier.When you have that name you're going to get booted higher then other ppl.

Hmmmmm,well uhhhh,his dad is Joe Frazier.When you have that name you're going to get booted higher then other ppl.

i know but seriously wtf?thats absurd.that just tells you the level of comp in that early 80's era.thats ridiculous.

i know but seriously wtf?thats absurd.that just tells you the level of comp in that early 80's era.thats ridiculous.

No,name recognition sells. Tyson vs Tyrell Biggs.(gold medalist) He fought Tyson when he was 15-0.

Ali vs Leon Spinks(gold medalist) He fought Ali when he was 6-0. Name recognition goes a long way.

Sadly and simply,there was money to be made.As been pointed out...if his name was Marvis Smith there would not have been a fight.
I don't believe anyone thought he was really ready to challenge Holmes.
But the sad truth was,he had to get a big payday in before people found out the truth...which was he couldn't fight.

Luckily Chazz Witherspoon hasn't been thrown to the wolves yet.......because of his name.

Was the title actually on the line for the Holmes - Frazier fight? Regardless, he had a marketable name. If you're a part of a famous sucessful boxing family, or you did well at the olympics your gonna get a boost in the pros.

how the hell did marvis get a shot at holmes with that record?i was checking out box rec after watching tyson dismantle frazier,and i couldn't believe how he got a shot at holmes with that record.seriously,wtf?

He probably got it because of the reputation of his dad.

Sadly and simply,there was money to be made.As been pointed out...if his name was Marvis Smith there would not have been a fight.
I don't believe anyone thought he was really ready to challenge Holmes.
But the sad truth was,he had to get a big payday in before people found out the truth...which was he couldn't fight.




marvis was ok he had a few good wins, against former champ James Smith and other fairly decent fighters like Joe Bugner, James Tillis and Jose Ribalta so he wasn't rubbish. He was an ok fighter with a great fighters name.

amateur record of 73-0. according to wiki although i think he lost to James Broad in the amateurs so it might be 73-1. I think he would have made a great cruiserweight but was just not big enough at heavyweight.

Holyfield got a cruiserweight title fight after 11 fights against Qawi, mainly due to the recognition he recieved after getting robbed in the olympics. And yeah, I'm sure his dad's influence hellped.

I always thought it was Joe Frazier bargaining with his "prodigy" (I use the word prodigy loosely") son to get big fights and shock the world.

we all know how well that worked.

amateur record of 73-0. according to wiki although i think he lost to James Broad in the amateurs so it might be 73-1. I think he would have made a great cruiserweight but was just not big enough at heavyweight.

He also split two fights with Tony Tubbs at the simon pure level, but basically got that shot because of his dad and the fact that Larry was on the run.

marvis wud of been gd if it wasnt for joe frazier changin his style

that was supposed to be for holmes newly acquired IBF belt but in some listings, the IBF doesnt recognized this as a title fight. Marvis only had 10 fights, holmes just wants no part of greg page and was trying to get out of don king thats why given up the WBC belt.