Fallout
04-21-2003, 11:11 PM
The things that make hockey great are the samethings that make MMA great.
Fighting, hitting, passion, heart, excitment.
Any thoughts?
Fighting, hitting, passion, heart, excitment.
Any thoughts?
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View Full Version : Why is it that hockey gets ragged on by some posters here? Fallout 04-21-2003, 11:11 PM The things that make hockey great are the samethings that make MMA great. Fighting, hitting, passion, heart, excitment. Any thoughts? Curly Howard 04-21-2003, 11:13 PM I love the game Fallout 04-21-2003, 11:15 PM I know you do Curly. So does G-man and HockeyFighter. We need to educate and inform. Hockey for all Curly Howard 04-21-2003, 11:18 PM I liked it a lot more when I first started watching back in the late 80s....Players played a lot harder then Kempo Chris 04-21-2003, 11:18 PM no sports for me except mma handjobs4dollars 04-21-2003, 11:18 PM Most of them are football fans. Football is to slow of a game for me to watch. Rugby,mma,hockey all speed and all have hard hits. Does it matter if they like it or not? These are the type of people that want to make the puck glow so they can see it. Fallout 04-21-2003, 11:21 PM Hockey is not a sport that needs a glowing puck. Its a black disc on a white surface. How can you not see it? The Golden Bear 04-21-2003, 11:24 PM i only seen in blakc aand white so im ok. handjobs4dollars 04-21-2003, 11:24 PM I don't know who's idea it ass but some people should be shot. zioxoiz 04-21-2003, 11:24 PM cause hockey + USA = no ratings. handjobs4dollars 04-21-2003, 11:26 PM You have most of the nhl teams. Just becuase you only make up 15% of the players doesn't mean it's not a good game. seldomTap 04-21-2003, 11:27 PM The small amount of Hockey Ihave seen is awesome. I taught myself a bit about it via playing a full season of NHL 99 few years ago and that is still one of my favourite sports sims I have played. The Golden Bear 04-21-2003, 11:28 PM i thought this was about hockey fighter. but i like hockey handjobs4dollars 04-21-2003, 11:28 PM Nhl 99 rocked when I won the cup with the leafs I cried. zioxoiz 04-21-2003, 11:30 PM No one here watches it outside of Detroit and NY. We like football and the NBA. Hockey is as gay as soccer, cept it is a little better since they get sticks and there are more fights, although soccer has more riots. seldomTap 04-21-2003, 11:32 PM How can you say HOckey is gay, yet a bunch of overly tall guys, in shorts and singlets jumping around after a ball like the Village People on acid isn't?? Fallout 04-21-2003, 11:32 PM How can you not like a sport that allows fighting? You fight in baseball basketball or football. Your gone Hockey, you sit in a box for 5 mins handjobs4dollars 04-21-2003, 11:33 PM Yeah football is real cool. Let me put on all this gear when I don't need it. Basketball=***** sport for woman and gay guys. zioxoiz 04-21-2003, 11:33 PM hey IMO and most people here, we americans have a short attention span, and there inst enough scoring in Hockey. Plus who gives a ****, if you like it more power too you. why complain. The Golden Bear 04-21-2003, 11:35 PM i love football. Fallout 04-21-2003, 11:35 PM Because hockey gets ragged on. It gets called gay and **** along that lines. Yet basket-ball is somehow a cool sport? Kempo Chris 04-21-2003, 11:35 PM i hate all sports equally, except for basketball I fawking hate basketball The Golden Bear 04-21-2003, 11:36 PM I lvoe how in football, you always have 11 men vs 11 men. no matter what. seldomTap 04-21-2003, 11:36 PM You guys are just lucky you don't get much Australian football there...as much as I love this country...that game ****s me more and more each year zioxoiz 04-21-2003, 11:36 PM look at gmans post above. who cares what anyone thinks about anything. watch what you like. ****. the more people complain the more you sound like *****es. you think bball is gay, good. i dont care, cause i like it. The Golden Bear 04-21-2003, 11:36 PM Seldom, ausie rules is insane, I love watching it seldomTap 04-21-2003, 11:37 PM I honestly prefer American football over Australian football these days. Australian football = basketball on a big field and you can kick it. The Golden Bear 04-21-2003, 11:39 PM Well when i was younger Ausie rules was brutal. seldomTap 04-21-2003, 11:40 PM Yeah Blake, honestly, it was a better game 10 + years ago. It is now so overly umpired that any decent physicality about it has almost been stamped out. I played it when I was a kid and a bit in my late teens /early 20's and it is good to play, but Rugby will always be number 1 to me handjobs4dollars 04-21-2003, 11:40 PM I remember hojack saying that football was great and rugby was ****. The sad thing is somebody saw a rugby game ****ed up on the rules and invented football. The Golden Bear 04-21-2003, 11:45 PM rugby is cool too Curly Howard 04-21-2003, 11:48 PM Football and baseball are boring......how can you sit for 3 hours and watch that slow **** seldomTap 04-21-2003, 11:49 PM Try watching test cricket...5 days, 6 hours a day...plain white clothing...no guarantee of a result. Now there is a spectators sport The Golden Bear 04-21-2003, 11:50 PM id say boxing is more boring on average than football, but thas just me handjobs4dollars 04-21-2003, 11:50 PM i I love Rugby. You get hit the play doesn't stop you keep going. It is one of the major reason I have the cardio I have today. Plus my legs are ****ing huge and strong from it. handjobs4dollars 04-21-2003, 11:51 PM Originally posted by seldomTap Try watching test cricket...5 days, 6 hours a day...plain white clothing...no guarantee of a result. Now there is a spectators sport I'm am never going to play cricket all you do is stand there. Kempo Chris 04-21-2003, 11:51 PM Rugbys cool, i watched some of it the other day Alot of action VulgarTheClown 04-21-2003, 11:54 PM I don;t watch it. but i'll tell you one thing.... I'll watch hockey WAY before i watch football or NBA and especially baseball. **** american sports. YAY MMA, Rugby, Lacross, and soccer handjobs4dollars 04-21-2003, 11:55 PM Lacross=good handjobs4dollars 04-21-2003, 11:57 PM http://www.niagarac.on.ca/athletic/mrugby.html Squezze 04-21-2003, 11:58 PM Lacross is a brutal sport. Rugby too. My high school didn't get a rugby team until the year after I graduated, or I definitly would have tried out. handjobs4dollars 04-22-2003, 12:00 AM Rugby is getting bigger in Canada every year. www.rugbyontario.com VulgarTheClown 04-22-2003, 12:07 AM lacross is hardcore. the first time i ever saw it ti was on ESPN 2 and this guy got hit in the arm with a stick and his **** snapped the bone came out the other side and i was like GOOD SPORT! realkaps 04-22-2003, 12:26 AM I've heard a few people say football is a slow game. Hockey is a slow game if you ask me. Dont get me wrong, I like hockey. But football and basketball are my favorite sports after MMA and boxing. **** Baseball, **** soccer, and **** you....... seldomTap 04-22-2003, 01:36 AM No...**** Creed...get it right realkaps 04-22-2003, 01:40 AM **** Creed goes without saying, the **** you was to everyone who talked **** on basketball and football....... HockeyFighter 04-22-2003, 01:49 AM How is hockey slow? The guys skate at 30mph and up. No basketball players are doing that. zioxoiz 04-22-2003, 04:40 AM slow in terms of scoring, we dumb americans like high scores. The Jake 04-22-2003, 04:50 AM I didn't think Americans could count that high zioxoiz.... Personally, I love hockey. If I had any coordination in my body, I'd play it. But I can barely skate, let alone try that ****. AFL = I really don't like (but it's better than some sports I guess) Cricket = I don't like but seeing people get hit by a leather ball at over a 100km/h and you can see some real damage on the field at times.... Basketball = I like, but mostly because the some of the moves these guys pull is unbelievable. NFL/Rugby = well one you wear armor, the other you don't. That's about the only difference I see. For that reason, I think rugby is a more challenging game. - The Jake miller8966 04-22-2003, 01:32 PM Ok here goes: Hockey is ****. Any sport that has "skating" in it is not manly. It's ****ing stupid. Alot of hockey watching losers like to say " well they fight no other sport has fighting ". Id rather watch a bench clearing fight in basketball then two european *****s scratching each other. Football is great ( im not talking about soccer stupid), so stop talking **** about it. The only good thing about hockey is theirs no black people in it. That should be their advertising slogan, " hockey= A bunch of poverty stricken europeans who cry to americans for everything, but hey at least we have no darkies on the ice". handjobs4dollars 04-22-2003, 01:34 PM When Anson Carter was ten years old, his life was much the same as most of the other boys growing up in his Scarborough, Ontario, neighborhood. He went to school, came home, and played hockey. As he continued to play, advancing rapidly through his local leagues and on to Michigan State University, he began to stand out for two reasons. One, he was almost always the best player on the ice, and two, he was black—a rarity in hockey. Carter is one of the most promising young forwards in the National Hockey League. He was the second-leading scorer for the Boston Bruins in 1999-2000, and was recently traded to the Edmonton Oilers. In 2001, he was one of five black athletes on the Oilers, and one of 19 in the NHL. It's a number that may seem low (given the 650 players in the NHL today) but it still represents a noticeable increase in what has always been thought of as a "white" sport. According to league reports, only 18 black players reached the NHL between 1958 and 1991. While racism certainly played some role in keeping the figure to a minimum, it may have been more a function of the demographic makeup of Canada. In 1971, Canadians made up over 95% of the NHL, and only .02% of all Canadians were black. Today, the black population in Canada has increased to 2%. In addition, the United States, with a much higher black population than Canada, now contributes approximately 15% of all NHL players while Canada produces just over 60%. Fulfilling All Roles Recently retired goaltender Grant Fuhr is considered to be the most successful black player in the history of the sport. The backbone of the Wayne Gretzky-led Edmonton Oilers of the late 1980s, Fuhr currently stands in sixth place in all-time wins for goalies and is a sure-thing for induction into the Hockey Hall of Fame. His success has paved the way for other black goalies like Calgary's Fred Brathwaite and the Tampa Bay Lightning's Kevin Weekes, now starting in net for their respective clubs. Along with Carter, young black forwards Jarome Iginla from Calgary and American-born Mike Grier from Edmonton have both become offensive leaders on their teams. Iginla, just 23 years old, finished second in Rookie of the Year voting in 1997 while Grier is gaining a glowing reputation around the league for his scoring touch and hard hits. Speaking of hard hits, there is also a growing legion of black players that, to be blunt, have become known more for what they accomplish with their fists, rather than with their sticks. Edmonton's Georges Laraque, Vancouver's Donald Brashear, and Florida 6-6, 235-pound giant Peter Worrell have all become valuable commodities as their teams' enforcers. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Fans would yell 'Go back to the South,' and 'How come you're not picking cotton.' Things like that. It didn't bother me. I just wanted to be a hockey player." —Willie O'Ree, who made his NHL debut in 1958 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As Carter told Sports Illustrated in October 1999, "Black players are scorers. Black players are checkers. Black players are enforcers. Black players are tough, stay-at-home defensemen. We have different roles on a hockey club. Black players are bringing different things to the table, which means that black players are the same as everyone else." In the Beginning… Willie O'Ree became hockey's version of Jackie Robinson on Jan. 18, 1958, when he made his NHL debut with the Boston Bruins. Despite being legally blind in his right eye (due to an errant puck that felled him two years earlier - a trait he kept secret), O'Ree rocketed through juniors and the minors, and reached the pinnacle of the hockey world. He played just two games with the Bruins that year, was sent down to the minors for the following two, and didn't come back to the NHL until 1961, when he returned for a 43-game stint. Through it all, he was met with an endless stream of verbal abuse. "Racist remarks were much worse in the U.S. cities than in Toronto and Montreal," said O'Ree. "Fans would yell, 'Go back to the south' and 'How come you're not picking cotton.' Things like that. It didn't bother me. I just wanted to be a hockey player, and if they couldn't accept that fact, that was their problem, not mine." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unlike baseball, where Jackie Robinson's breaking of the color barrier cleared a path for thousands of black ballplayers to follow, no other black athlete played in the NHL until 1974, when Mike Marson was drafted by the Washington Capitals. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- O'Ree scored an uninspiring four goals and 10 assists in 1961. And that was that. While he continued to forge a respectable career mostly in the Western Hockey League (twice winning the scoring title), he never returned to the NHL. And unlike baseball, where Jackie Robinson's breaking of the color barrier cleared a path for thousands of black ballplayers to follow, no other black athlete played in the NHL until 1974, when Mike Marson was drafted by the Washington Capitals. Diversity in the NHL To its credit, the NHL has taken an active role in promoting diversity throughout the league. Each player is required to enroll in a diversity training seminar before the beginning of each season. Trash-talking is an ugly side effect of almost all athletic competition, but the league has made it clear through suspensions and fines that any racially-motivated verbal abuse will not be tolerated. The league has also recently brought O'Ree back into the limelight, making him the Director of Youth Development for the NHL/USA Hockey Diversity Task Force, a non-profit program designed to introduce children of diverse ethnic backgrounds to the game of hockey. Hockey is an expensive sport to play, with full equipment packages costing hundreds of dollars. In 1997, the NHL and USA Hockey developed the Used Equipment Bank, designed to encourage people to donate their used equipment to economically disadvantaged youths. Carter has also been instrumental in trying to give inner city youths more access to the sport. As a Bruin, he sponsored a program, "Carter's Corner" in which he purchased six tickets for each Bruins home game (matched by the club) for distribution to youth groups in the Boston area. Grier believes the professional black players are role models for youth. "If any of the black players have success," says Grier, "kids will want to emulate us." Bluecifer 04-22-2003, 01:35 PM Anything involving ice skating is gay. That is all. The Ensanity 04-22-2003, 01:39 PM **** Hockey...that is all. handjobs4dollars 04-22-2003, 01:45 PM http://flix.baystreetbullies.com/gallery/ssg.jpg Mr. Beelzebub 04-22-2003, 02:06 PM Why is Hockey the only sport where the minorities are actually "minorities"? NBA = 80% blacks MLB = 70 % hispanics NHL = White power. I don't get it, is it because we can't skate, or is it maybe too cold for us? handjobs4dollars 04-22-2003, 02:09 PM So it's okay for the nba to have 80% blacks but the nhl=white power. OK. wondermut 04-22-2003, 02:40 PM Hockey Rules! The Ensanity 04-22-2003, 02:46 PM NHL=95% Foreigners Mr. Beelzebub 04-22-2003, 02:49 PM http://thisteamsucks.com/img/119.jpg HockeyFighter 04-22-2003, 02:50 PM Originally posted by The Ensanity NHL=95% Foreigners If you consider Canadians foreigners then yes. Otherwise Europeans make up only 25-30 percent HockeyFighter 04-22-2003, 02:53 PM Originally posted by miller8966 Ok here goes: Hockey is ****. Any sport that has "skating" in it is not manly. It's ****ing stupid. Alot of hockey watching losers like to say " well they fight no other sport has fighting ". Id rather watch a bench clearing fight in basketball then two european *****s scratching each other. Football is great ( im not talking about soccer stupid), so stop talking **** about it. The only good thing about hockey is theirs no black people in it. That should be their advertising slogan, " hockey= A bunch of poverty stricken europeans who cry to americans for everything, but hey at least we have no darkies on the ice". You are obviously the dumbest **** on the planet earth and have never seen a hockey game in your life. I can't remember a time when I say 2 euros fight or anytime in history when euros have made up anymore than about 28 percent of players. You can die now thank you. The Ensanity 04-22-2003, 03:02 PM Originally posted by HockeyFighter If you consider Canadians foreigners Yes I do. realkaps 04-22-2003, 05:01 PM I do too..... |