this aint really bout training just need help..... if you get in a fight outside of the ring and hurt someone get in trouble or whatever does that mean you might not be able to box do they look at stuff like that...... i swear i've taken more **** since i started boxing then when i didnt i dunno why but its really pissing me off now especially when some cunt that smokes tells me boxings training easy.

that **** really pisses me off i thought that boxing would help me with **** like this but its just seeming to make me more angry.......what can happen in boxing if you get in trouble with police bout fighting

this aint really bout training just need help..... if you get in a fight outside of the ring and hurt someone get in trouble or whatever does that mean you might not be able to box do they look at stuff like that...... i swear i've taken more **** since i started boxing then when i didnt i dunno why but its really pissing me off now especially when some cunt that smokes tells me boxings training easy.

that **** really pisses me off i thought that boxing would help me with **** like this but its just seeming to make me more angry.......what can happen in boxing if you get in trouble with police bout fighting

dont get into street fights dude. and dont pay attention to idiots ****in with u when they find out u box. its really jus jealousy cuz they cant do it so they try and bring u down sayin its easy and they could still **** u up in a fight. its human nature to always try and one up someone else so dont sweat it. whenever that happens to me i jus laugh and tell them to come down to the gym and see if they can even bounce around the ring with their hands up for an entire 3 minute round.... and they never do, cuz they know they cant...

dont fight anyone outside the ring unless its absolutely necessary!

u **** someone up on the streets, the po find out u box... and ur sharin a jail cell with a 400 pound dude named bubba. fighters hands are registered as lethal weapons. keep that in mind...

You may be getting angry but at the end of the day you haven't laid any of those fools out yet. That's self-control you're basically showing without even realising it. Anytime someone talks rubbish to you and you ignore them just think of it as their lucky escape that you walked away from the situation.

I find that helps me out alot as I live in quite a rough area where people always want to try it on with you specailly as I'm big. Some people see it as a challenge. So I always think to myself "I'm a 250lb super heavyweight with a couple of WMD's that'll leave you desolated, devasted and discombobulated!you lucky I walked away!" lol

In the UK you're more likely to get done if you're registered with the ABA as a carded boxer with a club.

Is it the same in the states?

Had a friend who got locked up in Rahway prison (very very tough prison in Jersey). He said most of the guys in there for murder were there for incidents that were street fights. Not intentional. Alot of guys who hit someone, that someone banged their head and never woke up, guy gets locked up.


If in the US, you can and very may will get charged, locked up sued... it isnt worth it.

You may be getting angry but at the end of the day you haven't laid any of those fools out yet. That's self-control you're basically showing without even realising it. Anytime someone talks rubbish to you and you ignore them just think of it as their lucky escape that you walked away from the situation.

I find that helps me out alot as I live in quite a rough area where people always want to try it on with you specailly as I'm big. Some people see it as a challenge. So I always think to myself "I'm a 250lb super heavyweight with a couple of WMD's that'll leave you desolated, devasted and discombobulated!you lucky I walked away!" lol

In the UK you're more likely to get done if you're registered with the ABA as a carded boxer with a club.

Is it the same in the states?

definitely! one time i got into a fight a few years back and ****ed the dude up, got arrested and got fingerprinted and all that jazz. the next day, they found out i boxed and i got in more trouble and they had to take pictures of my hands and palms and wrists and all that **** and register them as lethal weapons....

in america, from what i hear, you get in 10 times the trouble if ur a registered boxer, AM or pro...

yeah i know it dont sound worth iot its just im in a scl for kids that have been expelled and there so fukin ****y i cnt help feeling if i beat one of the lil cunts up it mite make all the other cheeky bastards shut up

and by the way im in the uk

yeah i know it dont sound worth iot its just im in a scl for kids that have been expelled and there so fukin ****y i cnt help feeling if i beat one of the lil cunts up it mite make all the other cheeky bastards shut up

and by the way im in the uk

oh it definitely will no doubt bout that.

but dont do it...:nono:

when adrenaline kicks in, you yourself wont even know what you are capable of and what you are doing. dont do it...

one time i got into a fight, lets just say my pinky is now on the FBI's most wanted.

Dont do it. You can get in way more trouble for hurting someone when you've trained in any sort of combat sport. My dad was arrested for it before i was born. Some guy broke into the house my dad found him, beat the living **** out of him and got in serious trouble.

after i got into a fight and they found out i train in the art of knitting i got thrown in jail.

yeah, if you train, at least in the states they can **** you big time. i know if you're registered you can get charged with assault with a deadly weapon. it's my understanding that even if you aren't registered, but they somehow find out that you train regularly, they can hit you with the same charge.

as far as i know you're only allowed to neutralize a situation, and once you go over that limit, it's assault with a deadly weapon. so essentially if you knock a dude out with 1 punch in the street, even after he hit you, you can catch a charge.

i don't know how it effects your boxing in the ring. i think in the contract you sign you agree not to fight in the streets. so don't do it unless you're in physical danger. also, you don't want to get shot.

if it happens at all make sure there are witneses and they swung first! otherwise just walk away!

You can punch in self defense....

As soon as your opponent is on the ground though a boxer is not alowwed to punch them

Thats what they got mayweather for a few years back at someclub...

lol so the next time he kicked the guy.

Don't get in fights, bud. Then you won't have any problems.

Don't get in fights, bud. Then you won't have any problems.

just listen to that... easiest way to be safe.

i used to fight a hell of a lot im only 15 now almost 16 and ive have about 20 proper fights most of them scrappy and i usally won coz i was good with my hands i was beat sumtimies by older people. i never start them though but if they start it i will always fight. then i started boixng, i felt i had nothing to prove no more there was no reason for me to be fighting even if i was started on. So this lad in the year below me, he kept coming up to me asking me for fight, one day he swung about 5 shots at meand missed i just mad him look stupid. couple weeks later i got of the bus and he was there with two other lads who wernt from my school who i had never seen before, all 3 of them began hitting me i box so i knew wht to do i stepped away and dropped 2 of them with few punches each and just hit the other guy a few times. i got really in trouble with poliice because pople filme dit on mobile fones and **** and i looked the bad one even though it was 3 on 1 it got worse wen they found out i boxed. since then ive never fought once and probly never will out side the ring unless i really have 2.

You will be arrested, you will be sued and most importantly. You will have your licence taken away

"the next day, they found out i boxed and i got in more trouble and they had to take pictures of my hands and palms and wrists and all that **** and register them as lethal weapons....

in america, from what i hear, you get in 10 times the trouble if ur a registered boxer, AM or pro..."


This is an old wives tale. there is no registering your hands as deadly weapons, and your charges are not increased due to training, although it may be used against you to prove criminal intent.

Training will only screw you in a civil suit. They can use it to help their case in recieving cash from you.

yeah, if you train, at least in the states they can **** you big time. i know if you're registered you can get charged with assault with a deadly weapon. it's my understanding that even if you aren't registered, but they somehow find out that you train regularly, they can hit you with the same charge.

as far as i know you're only allowed to neutralize a situation, and once you go over that limit, it's assault with a deadly weapon. so essentially if you knock a dude out with 1 punch in the street, even after he hit you, you can catch a charge.

i don't know how it effects your boxing in the ring. i think in the contract you sign you agree not to fight in the streets. so don't do it unless you're in physical danger. also, you don't want to get shot.



You don't register. Who do you register with?

Contracts do not mention assaults outside the ring. You are bonded and criminal arrests may be regarded as defaulting on your contract due to the fact that you cannot render services promised if incarcerated.

Ammy boxing has nothing against this. You can box with felonies.

Debunked: Boxers are required to register their hands as "lethal weapons."

Research has failed to reveal any statutory, regulatory or other requirement that boxers -- or anyone skilled in martial arts -- "register" their hands or any other body part as "lethal weapons" in the U.S., UKoGBaNI, Canada, or any other common law nation. However, a criminal defendant's experience in boxing, karate, or other forms of hand-to-hand combat may be relevant to determining various legal issues.

First, in the United States at least, the question of whether hands (or other body parts) of a boxer, martial artist or any other person even qualifies as a "deadly" or "lethal" weapon depends largely upon how "deadly weapon," "lethal weapon," or "deadly force" is defined (usually by statute, which is then interpreted by the courts). _See,_ _e.g.,_ Vitauts M. Gulbis, "Parts of the Human Body, Other Than Feet, as Deadly or Dangerous Weapons for Purposes of Statutes Aggravating Offenses Such as Assault and Robbery," 8 A.L.R.4th 1268 (1981 and supplements); Christpher Vaeth, "Kicking as Aggravated Assault, or Assault With Dangerous or Deadly Weapon," 19 A.L.R.5th 823 (1995 and supplements). Most statutes have been interpreted to require an object external to the human body before a "deadly weapon" element can be met. For example, in _Minnesota v. Bastin_, 572 N.W.2d 281 (Minn. 1997), the Minnesota Supreme Court overruled the trial court's conclusion that the left fist of the defendant, a former licensed professional prize fighter, was a "deadly weapon."

Some courts in the United States have concluded, however, that a criminal defendant's experience in boxing or martial arts should be considered when deciding whether s/he possessed a required intent to cause harm. For instance, in _Trujillo v. State_, 750 P.2d 1334 (Wyo. 1988), the Wyoming Supreme Court found that there was sufficient evidence to support the defendant's conviction for aggravated assault after he punched someone in the head. His history as a trained boxer was one bit of evidence supporting the jury's findings on his mental state. Likewise, in _In the Matter of the Welfare of D.S.F._, 416 N.W.2d 772 (Minn. App. 1988), the Minnesota Court of Appeals held that there was sufficient evidence to conclude that the actions of the defendant, who had "substantial experience in karate," were sufficient to demonstrate his knowledge that he was hitting the victim with sufficient force to break the victim's jaw.

Similarly, a criminal defendant's boxing or martial arts experience may be relevant to determining the validity of a self-defense claim. For instance, in _Idaho v. Babbit_, 120 Idaho 337, 815 P.2d 1077 (Idaho App. 1991), the defendant shot the victim and claimed self-defense. The trial court admitted evidence regarding the defendant's past training and experience as a boxer, concluding that it was relevant to a determination of whether the defendant truly believed it was necessary to shoot the victim in order to protect himself and others. The Idaho Court of Appeals affirmed.

Documented: A criminal defendant's experience in boxing or the martial arts may be relevant to deciding whether the elements of a criminal offense have been proven.

"The third root is planted in the soil of the rich and often outrageous history of professional pugilism. In the era of boxer Joe Louis, it was common to have police on hand during a press conference to “register” the boxer as a deadly weapon. It was just a publicity stunt and carried no more legal weight than receiving the key to the city, which, of course, doesn’t mean you can open any door in town and just walk inside.

In court cases involving violent confrontations, lawyers and judges may advise the jury to bear in mind a person’s martial arts, boxing or military training when evaluating the facts of the case, as in the Matter of the Welfare of DSF, 416 N.W.2d 772 (Minn. App. 1988), where the Minnesota Court of Appeals concluded that the defendant, who had “substantial experience in karate,” was aware enough of the potential of his blows to deliberately break the plaintiff’s jaw. But that is a lot different from legally stating that the person in question is a registered and/or licensed deadly weapon."

Are people trolling this thread? or are they really trying to pass off the lie that hands are "registered"?

Black Belts Having To Register As Deadly Weapons
By Jonathan Maberry


This is one of the oldest American martial arts legends, and there is absolutely no basis or reality in it. First off, there is no department or process within the U.S. government to regulate martial arts, which means there is no instrument in place to identify persons practicing fighting arts, and no governmental method by which practitioners can be evaluated. Such a feat of regulation would cost millions, if not billions, and would be an invasion of civil rights. Actually there is not a country on earth where martial artists are required to register themselves as weapons, deadly or otherwise.


This myth has its roots in two different aspects of mid-20th century history. In post-World War II Japan traditional martial arts were made illegal, and records were kept of those persons who were experienced practitioners of the arts. This was a bit of anti-Japanese backlash following the war and lasted only a few years. It has not been repeated, and it never spread beyond the borders of Japan.


The other root is planted in the soil of the rich and often outrageous history of professional boxing. In the Joe Lewis era (the boxer, not the karate master), it was a common publicity stunt to have police on hand during a press conference to “register” the boxer as a deadly weapon. Understand, this was just a publicity stunt and carried no more legal weight than receiving the Key to the City actually means you can open any door with it and just walk in.


In court cases involving violent confrontations, lawyers and judges may advise the jury to bear in mind a person’s martial arts, boxing, or military combat training when evaluating the facts of the case. For example, in the Matter of the Welfare of D.S.F., 416 N.W.2d 772 (Minn. App. 1988), the Minnesota Court of Appeals concluded that the defendant, who had "substantial experience in karate," was aware enough of the potential of his blows to deliberately break the plaintiff’s jaw. But that is a lot different from legally stating that the person in question is a registered or licensed “deadly weapon”.


Pat Priore, a police chief from Pennsylvania and former SWAT team hand-to-hand instructor, remarked: “I have been in law enforcement for 16 years and I have never observed this practice in my department nor any other department. Occasionally that old bit of nonsense pops up...but we in the law enforcement community regard it as a joke. I’m amazed that so many people still believe it.”


What I find truly disturbing, however, is that I have encountered a number of students who showed me “registration cards” they’d gotten from their instructors. These instructors, mind you, charged them a hefty fee to be registered; and the students who, with good will, believed what their instructors had told them, completely believed that they were now registered as deadly weapons. Not only is this fraud, but it is dishonorable behavior as well.

"the next day, they found out i boxed and i got in more trouble and they had to take pictures of my hands and palms and wrists and all that **** and register them as lethal weapons....

in america, from what i hear, you get in 10 times the trouble if ur a registered boxer, AM or pro..."


This is an old wives tale. there is no registering your hands as deadly weapons, and your charges are not increased due to training, although it may be used against you to prove criminal intent.

Training will only screw you in a civil suit. They can use it to help their case in recieving cash from you.

i dono why they did it and what they did with it, but they did it. maybe they did it to scare me, maybe not. i dono dude. i aint sayin i had to fill anything out or stand trial to register my hands as lethal weapons, but they took pictures from all angles, and prints of my knuckles and all that ****. maybe it was to scare me, but it happened...at philadelphia 51st district police station...

You don't register. Who do you register with?

Contracts do not mention assaults outside the ring. You are bonded and criminal arrests may be regarded as defaulting on your contract due to the fact that you cannot render services promised if incarcerated.

Ammy boxing has nothing against this. You can box with felonies.

i meant when you become a member of usa boxing. i'm just going on what the guys at my gym said, but i have heard this before they told me.

but you might be right. now that i think about it, i can't think of any case i've heard of where a boxer was convicted of assault with a deadly weapon. i just read the scott pemberton was charged with it, but the charge was eventually reduced. still not sure how or if it effect your usa boxing membership.

cheers for the advice guiys but for what one guy sed bout feeling he had nothing to prove i know its not good but since ive started boxing i feel like ive got more to prove....... if you get in a fight on the street do you think you should stick with technique