I think that he has a really good chance againts Nard...but I hope he doesn't cuz I want to see Nard-Tito II.

I think that he has a really good chance againts Nard...but I hope he doesn't cuz I want to see Nard-Tito II.

No one has a chance against Hopkins

and yes that includes Tito

nope i dont give him any chance at all

The EA curse puts a little more spin on it though ;) I dont see Hop having any problems there.

agree no one has a chance right now against nard...and tito will fall to nard ..even if nard was to loose..i dont think tito could ever beat him..but back to the main q

it takes alot more then just a jab to beat nard..if sturm won i would love it cuz no one would expect it..and hbo would be pissed...but i dont think it will happen..but sturm wont get ko'ed either

But..and a lot will agree with me..if sturm ko's nard..but i mean ko not UD or SD...i and a lot of guys on here including hopkin fans would laugh our ass off...cuz of how ironic it would be

Why on earth would this guy want to see his favourite fighter get beat up again. In their first fight Tito was completely shut down on top of that he was KD and stopped. By the way, did he even win a round? I don't care what anyone says, I still don't believe Tito deserves a shot at Bernard. I wouldn't mind seeing it, but I don't think he deserves it.

Why on earth would this guy want to see his favourite fighter get beat up again. In their first fight Tito was completely shut down on top of that he was KD and stopped. By the way, did he even win a round? I don't care what anyone says, I still don't believe Tito deserves a shot at Bernard. I wouldn't mind seeing it, but I don't think he deserves it.

C'mon Jack..u don't want to see them fight again?..your are so sure that Nard will beat Tito and you hate Tito right?..for the same reason I want to see them fight again..I'm sure that Tito will KTFO Nard in a rematch.. :cool:

He has absolutely no chance! Sturm fought an obviously fat & inept De La Hoya....That and that alone made him look far better than he actually is.
Hopkins will destroy him!

Remember how Hopkins was chuckling gleefully when DLH 'won' that fight? He realised that he would, at long last, realise a fantastic payday. I for one, certainly saw Sturm beating DLH!
The Sturm/Hopkins fight will be another farce.

(expect if he becomes a real ***** a keep fighting welterweight) i like tito..but i mean...damn now that i really think about it...he got owned..not beat..hopkins owned him...and now tito has come in beating a welterweight and now he may fight spinks...and then hopkins..if this happens i give him no chance in hell..i hope he fights atleast a good middleweight before going onto nard..if he does good...i say then go for it and go toe 2 teo with nard

*except-is what i ment to put

anyway..hasnt nard gotten better since tito fight???

Sturm has a better chance then Trinidad does . . . .

Explain why Sturm has a better chance that Tito. Not that i disagree. But I am just curious.

Sturm couldn't seal the deal against Oscar....I don't see him taking Nard.

Tough mission for Sturm but his quickness, athleticism, and youth sure give him a chance.

Sturm will have a chance to outpoint Bernard, if Bernard focuses on KO-ing Sturm.

Explain why Sturm has a better chance that Tito. Not that i disagree. But I am just curious.


Trinidad is made for Hopkins, I love to watch Tito fight, but he needs to stay away from Hopkins, Sturm cannot beat Hopkins either, but he has a better chance because he is young, moves more than Tito, and has a good jab. Tito will get demolished if they fight again, and i for one, dont want to see that :(

agree styles make fight..and tito just cant beat hopkins...tito will get owned no matter how many times thay fight...now on sturm..if sturm goes in there with a clear head..uses his speed and great stamina and not rush anything..he can do this..i hope he can but doubt it

hey u guys i have a q...are u guys like me or toatlly disagree on this comment:

i feel ..well i know sturm/hop is not a big mega fight but...if its a ppv..i wouldnt mind paying to see it...

do u guys think this fight is worth a ppv main event..?

it better have a good undercard

Sturm has a good size vs Hopkins,jab and speed is key to his victory over Hopkins, however when DLH landed so clean shots on Sturm,it did rock him alil, now B-Hop would kill him, I have to see how Sturm would take the EX punches

Yo, I watched the Sturm vs. DLH fight quite a few times but I never saw Sturm get rocked by any punches. I did see Oscar get hurt though. Sturm and Hopkins will be a good fight, I think. But I think Bernard will win. From what I saw of his last fight, Tito can't beat Bernard. He was catching alot of punches from an inaccurate puncher, which means his defense is still sorry, which is what Hopkins exposed in their last encounter. Hopkins has also already shown himself to be stronger than Tito when he needs to be. I see Tito losing again in a rematch, but you never know, this is boxing. Tito is gonna have to up his D if he doesn' wanna get beat down again by Hopkins.

All of the Tito fans really need to go back and watch his fight against Hopkins again. I had Tito winning one round. DLH won more rounds against Hopkins than Tito did and Tito had three more rounds that he could have won than DLH did.

Please please stop this Tito crap. i have had enough. Tito won no more thn a round against Hopkins in the first fight, he was made to look foolish Vs Hopkins. And he has one fight in over 2 yrs and vis decked in this fight, and you all screaming, oh he is gonna beat Hopkins. How crazy can people be?
Tito may improve from last time but Hopkins will still want it more. He has always wanted it more and that was the dfference the first time and it`ll be the difference next time. Any guy who is beaten as badly as Tito was by Hopkins only wants the rematch because it`ll sell. I don`t think Tito has earned this chance, Howard Eastman is the number contender as the moment but Don King has been gifted fights to Trinidad for years, why stop now.
Its an easy payday for Hopkins and another beating for Trinidad, please don`t see it any other way than that!

whats the EA curse??? im guessin its that EA have put B-Hop on the cover of Fight Night 2005... and no, i dont give Sturm a chance, EA curse or not!!!

If Sturm was a big puncher, he'd have a chance, unfortunately he's not and he doesn't

ya strum has a small chance
but its very miniscuel for me
i just dont see him beating hopkins
i dont see him out workin hopkins
he lies to throw ones and twos at most
hopkins will counter those to effectivly and eventually strum wil stop doin much of anythin
i dont think hes got enough power to get any respect form hopkins
hopkins by ko in 7-8

Sturm's chances are small. He would have to outwork Hop for the first 4 rounds or so. Winning early rounds would be important. He would have to put together some punches outside of the 1-2 and he'd have to keep that jab working all night.

Hop would have a rough time of pushing Sturm around and roughing him up because Sturm is just as big and strong. Sturm has a tight defense and his torso is solid. Youth and size would definitely be in Sturm's favor.

That being said I think Hopkins would either end it in 11/12 or win by way of UD. He is still way too good and crafty for Sturm.

Please please stop this Tito crap. i have had enough. Tito won no more thn a round against Hopkins in the first fight, he was made to look foolish Vs Hopkins. And he has one fight in over 2 yrs and vis decked in this fight, and you all screaming, oh he is gonna beat Hopkins. How crazy can people be?
Tito may improve from last time but Hopkins will still want it more. He has always wanted it more and that was the dfference the first time and it`ll be the difference next time. Any guy who is beaten as badly as Tito was by Hopkins only wants the rematch because it`ll sell. I don`t think Tito has earned this chance, Howard Eastman is the number contender as the moment but Don King has been gifted fights to Trinidad for years, why stop now.
Its an easy payday for Hopkins and another beating for Trinidad, please don`t see it any other way than that!


Tito was made to look foolish against Oscar as well.

ya strum has a small chance
but its very miniscuel for me
i just dont see him beating hopkins
i dont see him out workin hopkins
he lies to throw ones and twos at most
hopkins will counter those to effectivly and eventually strum wil stop doin much of anythin
i dont think hes got enough power to get any respect form hopkins
hopkins by ko in 7-8


the EA curse is the only chance i give sturm.

No chance and no way! Hopkins is too much for Sturm.

Sturm has 2 chances:

1. Hopkins taking him easy
2. If Sturms jab is effective

NB. I belive this will be a fight, and will go to the cards.

best,

drh

Dela Hoya did rock Sturm early in the fight when Sturm opened up. After that Sturm stuck to his bread and butter jabs and crosses the rest of the fight. I think Bernard will wear down Sturm just like he does everyone else and stop him. The only thing that would keep that from happening would be if Bernard is out of shape which he hasn't done in any previous fights.

Tito Trinidad has power but he doesn't have the quickness and the hand speed, these are the two factors that can beat hopkins! Well, it was 2 years ago since these two fighters last meet but i still want to see how well would trinidad could go up against hopkins! During their first fight, i thought he could knock out this hopkins guy but hopkins proved to be a better boxer and won! I think he has really outboxed trinidad last time! That front jab of hopkins was keeping trinidad most of the time during rounds and he was losing his rhythm for his attack! I could still favor hopkins to beat trinidad just by a close margin! In order to upset hopkins, trinidad should fight a different strategy this time or it could go just like the first time!

Sorry i made the wrong reply i forgot that the question was about sturm's chances!

sturm does impress if he brings that belt home to the fatherland.

hopkins does seemingly have the bodily advantage, but the german analysis and fight schedule can not me taken lightly on..

panzegirl, if you are german and believe that sturm has a chance against hopkins, your not only belonging to an awful country but you are being to patriotic, hopkins will teach sturm a lesson which he wont forget

and by the way, having that cross as your avatar is pathetic, get a life ya fukin krank

panzegirl, if you are german and believe that sturm has a chance against hopkins, your not only belonging to an awful country but you are being to patriotic, hopkins will teach sturm a lesson which he wont forget

and by the way, having that cross as your avatar is pathetic, get a life ya fukin krank

you should respect the cross, jesus was taught to..

and bye the way, when you get into rehab remember to make a post discribing what a stupid looser youve allways been..!!

..so how do you think williams will fare..?

well, you're on a boxing website and you are coming out with stupid comments all the time, what the hell has jesus got to do with boxing ???

williams has a punchers chance like any other boxer has, he is going to struggle with the height difference but the power of vk might not be enough considering tyson couldnt put him down

i want him to win, wether he will or not is a different thing

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well, you're on a boxing website and you are coming out with stupid comments all the time, what the hell has jesus got to do with boxing ???

williams has a punchers chance like any other boxer has, he is going to struggle with the height difference but the power of vk might not be enough considering tyson couldnt put him down

i want him to win, wether he will or not is a different thing

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dont disrespect the lord, there will come a day..

we where talking about rehab for you, dont change the subject..

and you dont belive in williams for ****?

and dont disrepsect others by pushing religion into sport, save your preaching for church. I dont want to read it or hear it, this is a boxing website go read the forum rules.

panzagal, I like talking to fans from all round the world but sometimes I find your notions or observations somewhat glib and based basically on who you like not on on fistic observation!

and you should change that avatar, that comes form a time very desperate indeed for mankind and may be viewed as offensive to some.

It's hard to gauge Felix Sturm.

He beat oscar...but, at middleweight, how much did this prove ?

I think Sturm will have early success against Bernard....but Hopkins will sove him mid-way....lay a beating on him down the stretch....& win a clear-cut decision.

and dont disrepsect others by pushing religion into sport, save your preaching for church. I dont want to read it or hear it, this is a boxing website go read the forum rules.

panzagal, I like talking to fans from all round the world but sometimes I find your notions or observations somewhat glib and based basically on who you like not on on fistic observation!

and you should change that avatar, that comes form a time very desperate indeed for mankind and may be viewed as offensive to some.

weheell.. if you shut your lame preaching hole to me, ill try and not give you some sound advice..

happy?

whatever mate.

Panzagal Why Dont You Try And Be Serious For Once

Thought Panzagal Would Wind You Up Jpw Ha Ha

Get Back To Boxing Now !

yeah.. ive gotta go shower and do some stuff anyway. bye. seeya!

yeah.. ive gotta go shower and do some stuff anyway. bye. seeya!

You, shower ?

Must be Monday !

You, shower ?

Must be Monday !


thats low, limpy. how tall are you anyway?

dont mess with cablegirl or youll get the horns..

thats low, limpy. how tall are you anyway?
..


Not tall enough to avoid your Euro-stench.

Not tall enough to avoid your Euro-stench.

well, you should try platform shoes. theyd do well with your inbred overall impression. you could do some retro deliverance 70s kinda thing.

scueel like a pig! jew hear me, scueel boy!!

Not tall enough to avoid your Euro-stench.

does your mouth taste like the cats ass?

well, you should try platform shoes. theyd do well with your inbred overall impression. you could do some retro deliverance 70s kinda thing.

scueel like a pig! jew hear me, scueel boy!!

Schizophrenics are so entertaining.
Doesn't matter if what they say makes any sense, or has any relevance....it's always interesting.

For the record. Oscar won that fight with Sturm. As far as whether or not Sturm even stands a chance against Hopkins, the answer is simple...No.

Schizophrenics are so entertaining.
Doesn't matter if what they say makes any sense, or has any relevance....it's always interesting.

great. is that what they say about you at your ward?

or, arent they on to you yet..?

For the record. Oscar won that fight with Sturm. As far as whether or not Sturm even stands a chance against Hopkins, the answer is simple...No.


Jack....


So, you just agree with whatever the judges say, huh ?

WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM PANZA?

please just be nice, you will find there are plenty of folk here who will talk to you decently and you never know you might just learn something.


In fact Im wondering if you are nicht dicht in disguise. Both like german fighters, both being deliberately obnoxious, both have an attitude.

Try conversing rather than being obtrusive, you will be welcomed rather than ostrocised.. its your choice mate.

I'm not saying that, but in my eyes Oscar clearly won. He put it to Sturm.

jesus!

nicht is a great guy, thanks.

my mom wont let me be nice to people calling me panza (we dont know what it means, were just beeing precautious..)

I'm not saying that, but in my eyes Oscar clearly won. He put it to Sturm.

He put NOTHING on Sturm.
Sturm won 7 or 8 rounds. Oscar's punches were pathetic....& he spent the whole fight getting his head snapped back.


What fight were you watching ?

Some of you seriously underrate Felix Sturm. He had a good fight against Oscar DLH which I (and lots of other boxing fans) believe he won. Most of you have only seen this one fight of Felix. I don't blame you therefore as it should hard to follow him in the US. However, he fought a good fight against DLH but it certainly wasn't his best up to date. Everybody who just judges him on this one outing can't get a fair impression of Felixs real strength.

If all I'd have seen from Bernard Hopkins was his loss to RJJ my opinion about him would be a different one as well. Felix Sturm defintily has a chance against an aging Hopkings due to his style and "in-ring-intelligence". Sturm wouldn't get caught by Bernard Hopkins as he's not rushing anything and is always "defensive-first" minded. His fights might not be the most entertaining to watch but he sure is effective. He'd frustrate Hopkins just like he frustrated all of his other opponents up to date.

Sturms Jab is not only his best offensive weapon its a defensive skill as well as he destroys most of the opponents offense before it even happend. I dont see a fighter in the current Middleweight devision that could knock Felix out. Him fighting one of the better boys in the devision will almost everytime end on the scorecards.

And all of you who claim that Felix only has his 1-2 admit that they havent seen a fight of him besides the DLH one. He has a sweet right AND left uppercut and some lightening fast combos in his repertoire. He doesnt go for the KO in most of his fights though because he doesnt have to risk anything. His punches are often clean and easy to see. If a fight goes to the scorecards he always has a very good chance to win. And as I stated before I dont see Hopkins knocking him out as Felix knows how to handle pressure. He certainly is the best defensive boxer in the division right now. And he's getting stronger by the fights as he hasnt reached his prime yet.

Still I believe Hopkins would be a legitimate favourte to win a bout between these two but in my opinion it would be close, very very close. Hopkings is a great fighter, the best middleweight of the last decade but his era is coming to an end and Felix has all the tools to start his own era.

I'm not saying that, but in my eyes Oscar clearly won. He put it to Sturm.

****...u must be blind. Oscar received a beating in the hands of Sturm. :cool:

I think Hopkins will win this fight easily. To me this looks like a hand picked fighter to setup a Tito vs Hopkins rematch. This will allow Hopkins to get his 20th against a somewhat known fighter, then get his final huge payday against Tito before he retires.

I have seen Sturm fight a few times, other then beating up an out of shape De La Hoya, he hasn't shown enough to prove he can beat Hopkins.

nard will befeat the one jab wonder. also tito is affraid of nard and that will be his down fall.

Easy answer to this question: NO.

You have to remember that Sturm only fought Oscar the way he did because Oscar was smaller and he didn't think Oscar could hurt him. He was right. Before the fight everyone who had seen Sturm fight said he moved alot more than he did against Oscar. He would not stand in front of Hopkins the way he did Oscar. If he did he would lose easily. If he doesn't Hopkins will still beat him easy but it will take more time. It is true Hopkins has trouble with movers but I think he would eventually make Sturm come to him and counterpunch him to death. Either way Sturm has no chance against Hopkins.

EVen if Sturm doesn't stand in front of Hopkins he will still get beaten down. Just because Hopkins isn't flashy like Roy Jonesalot of people don't see how good this guy really is.

****...u must be blind. Oscar received a beating in the hands of Sturm. :cool:

beatin doesnt equal loss
when will you guys understand that
he won it on points
not on how much he hurt him

EVen if Sturm doesn't stand in front of Hopkins he will still get beaten down. Just because Hopkins isn't flashy like Roy Jonesalot of people don't see how good this guy really is.

If Sturm moves more he will still lose but it would take Hopkins more time to adjust and make Sturm come to him. Hopkins has trouble with guys who move alot. That's why he chose to stay back against Oscar and make Oscar come to him instead of him chasing Oscar. I wonder how people feel about Hopkin's chances now against Jones. Before Jones fought Tarver the first time I said Hopkins would beat Jones and everyone said hell no. After the Tarver fight I said that Jones was slipping and Hopkins would beat him in a rematch damn near everyone disagreed with me. Then after the Tarver rematch once again I said Jones was slipping and that Hopkins would beat him in a rematch. Again damn near everyone disagreed with me. Now Johnson a guy Hopkins had no trouble against beat Jones and I still say Hopkins would of beat Jones in a rematch.

beatin doesnt equal loss
when will you guys understand that
he won it on points
not on how much he hurt him

Sturm beat Oscar on points, & beat him up too.

Sturm won 7-8rds....

nard would beat tito again, it might be closer because nard is 3 years older but he would still win a decision and maybe knock tito out again, nard has a granite chin so no way he gets knocked out