Your own damn favorite rappers are the ones that are dead. ****in Common is lyrical as ****,yet he's on Lil Waynes level in publicity and being hot.Yet he's very lyrical and doesnt switch his style up. But he's out there.Even got album of the year on BET.Plus this is a down south era,yet he still shines.

So like I said its you guys favorite rappers that are falling off and trying stupid **** to get publicity and such. I applaud Common for showing the hiphop crybabies that its THEM that are sucking.Not the state of hiphop.


BAM!!!!!!!!!

Your own damn favorite rappers are the ones that are dead. ****in Common is lyrical as ****,yet he's on Lil Waynes level in publicity and being hot.Yet he's very lyrical and doesnt switch his style up. But he's out there.Even got album of the year on BET.Plus this is a down south era,yet he still shines.

So like I said its you guys favorite rappers that are falling off and trying stupid **** to get publicity and such. I applaud Common for showing the hiphop crybabies that its THEM that are sucking.Not the state of hiphop.


BAM!!!!!!!!!

well while on the subject of hiphop...why the **** does the majority of rappers down south put out garbage? I know its all supposed to be fun and all but seems to me that their blueprint is ****ed, feel me?

well while on the subject of hiphop...why the **** does the majority of rappers down south put out garbage? I know its all supposed to be fun and all but seems to me that their blueprint is ****ed, feel me?

They sell millions,case closed.Now back to the topic.

They sell millions,case closed.Now back to the topic.

and thats the best Hip Hop has to offer? "Lean wit it rock wit it"?

and thats the best Hip Hop has to offer? "Lean wit it rock wit it"?

Once again they sell.If they know it sells they will push it out and make more of it. Side line hating is a no no.:nono:

Once again they sell.If they know it sells they will push it out and make more of it. Side line hating is a no no.:nono:

lol u got it twisted, I'm not hating but I expect more. Maybe I'm wrong for looking for some sort of intellectual message or something with some sense behind it when they put out that music.

lol u got it twisted, I'm not hating but I expect more. Maybe I'm wrong for looking for some sort of intellectual message or something with some sense behind it when they put out that music.

Leave the messages to the poets,and the national leaders and speakers,and leave the talking about the streets and your lives and how you're in the drug game and was in the drug game in the book or biography you'll soon make.

Leave the messages to the poets,and the national leaders and speakers,and leave the talking about the streets and your lives and how you're in the drug game and was in the drug game in the book or biography you'll soon make.

damn, u taking it personal, no?:puppy_dog

damn, u talking it personal, no?:puppy_dog

I dont take anything on this site personal,just spitting the truth.

but do you understand what I'm saying about southern rappers with 1 hit wonders? When i said their blueprint is ****ed u know what I meant, right?

but do you understand what I'm saying about southern rappers with 1 hit wonders? When i said their blueprint is ****ed u know what I meant, right?

You make it seem like tons of other rappers not from the south werent 1 hit wonders.haha. You're funny.

You make it seem like tons of other rappers not from the south werent 1 hit wonders.haha. You're funny.

you putting words in my mouth? I'm talking about lately, take it 3-4yrs back till now. Then you tell me where the majority of 1 hit wonders came from.

you putting words in my mouth? I'm talking about lately, take it 3-4yrs back till now. Then you tell me where the majority of 1 hit wonders came from.

Take it back 10 years ago,and tell me where the majority of 1 hit wonders came from?

I can play that game too.:)

Take it back 10 years ago,and tell me where the majority of 1 hit wonders came from?

I can play that game too.:)

10 years ago HiP Hop was fine:bounce: , i think

10 years ago HiP Hop was fine:bounce: , i think

Remember "Whoa" Black Rob. One hit wonder.haha. There are plenty,and you know that.

Remember "Whoa" Black Rob. One hit wonder.haha. There are plenty,and you know that.

My whole point is I'm disappointed in the south, that is all...1

and you know as well as I do they gotta step up their ****in game

My whole point is I'm disappointed in the south, that is all...1

and you know as well as I do they gotta step up their ****in game

If they're selling records and making millions,getting air play,being talked about,and being on the charts.You know what I say to that? If it aint broke dont fix it.

If I was doing well,I'd say **** the sideline haters.Im doing my own thang and getting paid for it. Im not going to throw out something a few ppl wanna here because to there sense its REAL hiphop.**** that. Im going to do what I love doing,and the haters could keep the hate to a minimal. Thats probably something Mayweather experiences. Ppl want him to be more exciting,but what for? The dude is on top of his game and is getting paid like the most exciting boxer in the world,and he's getting publicity outside of boxing.Yet there will always be sideline haters saying he's destroying boxing and such.

I think that one of the biggest barriers here are the music labels. Let's remember how Common got as big as he did in the first place. He was around for years but only became what he is now through his association with kanye West. Now how did Kanye West become big? By being a producer and begging people that didn't believe in him as a rapper (because he is not what the industry is now) to take him seriously. See I'm not one of those people that blames the South for everything that is wrong with rap as I have said before. To me, it started with the East Coast compromising, and with jay Z and Rockafella. That started the age of putting "Cash Money and Hoes" above everything including lyrical skill (which is what distinguished Jay Z from Biggie, atleast after the album Reasonable Doubt). Not even creativity was important now everything came down to trying to come up with a mindless formula to make money.

So the only reason Common is around like he is is because Kanye West has producing skills and could use his clout to make Common more visible. I do think that if more creative artists could get exposure the public would respond more, but the labels have a strangle hold on the market and they are not going to invest in anything as unreliable as creativity. They want a sure-fire formula.

Your own damn favorite rappers are the ones that are dead. ****in Common is lyrical as ****,yet he's on Lil Waynes level in publicity and being hot.Yet he's very lyrical and doesnt switch his style up. But he's out there.Even got album of the year on BET.Plus this is a down south era,yet he still shines.

So like I said its you guys favorite rappers that are falling off and trying stupid **** to get publicity and such. I applaud Common for showing the hiphop crybabies that its THEM that are sucking.Not the state of hiphop.


BAM!!!!!!!!!


BIG UPS to you mentioning my man COMMON. he's been keepin it REAL for a min! happy as hell to finally see him getting some more wide spread mass apeal love. its about mother Fin time.

COMMON is a REAL emcee, REAL lyricist, from REAL CHICAGO. he doesnt have to talk about guns and killing foos cuz he's more artistic than that even tho CHICAGO been one of the hardest if not the hardest city in the world to grow up in , i should know.

peeps might say hip hop is dead cuz all the wack sorry songs keep coming out like the fat white chick drinking songs that keep coming out like no tommorrow.

basically if some fat ugly white chick says, "THATS MY SONG!" then that song being on the radio, in the club, and in heavy rotation is one of the reasons why peeps say hip hop is dead

peeps might say hip hop is dead cuz all the wack sorry songs keep coming out like the fat white chick drinking songs that keep coming out like no tommorrow.

basically if some fat ugly white chick says, "THATS MY SONG!" then that song being on the radio, in the club, and in heavy rotation is one of the reasons why peeps say hip hop is dead

But remember its rotating because ppl are requesting it.Why would the industry make an effort to make the south of top if there wasnt a request for it? I mean really. Ppl forget that the record companies are practically ran by the ppl and what the ppl wanna hear.

Finding Forever is really good imo. Common is one of the few guys who can be a conscious rapper, yet be charismatic and fresh enough to be mainstream at the same time. Kweli is starting to become the same. Ear Drum definitely achieved that imo.

Hip Hop isn't dead. It's changing.

Hip Hop isn't dead. It's changing.

I agree.I haven't adapted to this change!

But remember its rotating because ppl are requesting it.Why would the industry make an effort to make the south of top if there wasnt a request for it? I mean really. Ppl forget that the record companies are practically ran by the ppl and what the ppl wanna hear.

yeah but my point is when garbage like PARTY LIKE A ROCKSTAR or I GOT VANS ON BUT THEY LOOK LIKE SNEAKERS, OR any other sorry excuse for crap music comes out and the fat ugly white chicks keep requesting it thats whats killing HIP HOP man.

the average person should be requesting COMMON, TALIB, etc instead of them sorry asss so called rappers that get all the love from the TRASH.

yeah but my point is when garbage like PARTY LIKE A ROCKSTAR or I GOT VANS ON BUT THEY LOOK LIKE SNEAKERS, OR any other sorry excuse for crap music comes out and the fat ugly white chicks keep requesting it thats whats killing HIP HOP man.

the average person should be requesting COMMON, TALIB, etc instead of them sorry asss so called rappers that get all the love from the TRASH.

The masses requesting> The minority. Until that changes you better stay used to what you're hearing.The guy next to you thats saying hiphop is head is probably the say guy thats requesting some of those songs.

Hell I watch 106 and park and alot of New York kids are praising down south rappers.Especially Lil Wayne. So for those that think hiphop is dead they're in the minority.

LIL wayne is wack son. i dont know why he gets so much love. my 15yr old cousin can flow better than him. lil waynes also ugly as hell too. looks like a grown version of Rudy Huckstable on crack.

in fact all the rappers with: "LIL" in front of their name are all sorry and wack.

u all ever notice that?

LIL wayne is wack son. i dont know why he gets so much love. my 15yr old cousin can flow better than him. lil waynes also ugly as hell too. looks like a grown version of Rudy Huckstable on crack.

Once again you're in the minority.I know **** loads of ppl that think he's good. Him still being main stream and hot also says different.Once again you're in the minority.Like I might be in the minority when I say Nas is wack,well I do. I just dont go around spewing it everywhere.

in fact all the rappers with: "LIL" in front of their name are all sorry and wack.

u all ever notice that?

Well maybe to you buddy,maybe to you.

Once again you're in the minority.I know **** loads of ppl that think he's good. Him still being main stream and hot also says different.Once again you're in the minority.Like I might be in the minority when I say Nas is wack,well I do. I just dont go around spewing it everywhere.

hey bro do u even know the difference from REAL HIP HOP and commercial crap RAP MUSIC?

im not trying to be a dick just seriously curious if you know the difference?

yes REAL HIP HOP is in fact in the minority these days that is correct

They sell millions,case closed.Now back to the topic.


no
not lately,its be kanye, 50,and jayz sellin millions.
sells have nothin to do with how good a rapper u r.
promotion is y those rappers sell not because they r great rappers lol.

I'm bringing out a new genre of hip hop.

But remember its rotating because ppl are requesting it.Why would the industry make an effort to make the south of top if there wasnt a request for it? I mean really. Ppl forget that the record companies are practically ran by the ppl and what the ppl wanna hear.

The record companies make decisions on what they think people want to hear, not neccesarly on what they want to hear. As I mentioned before, none of the record companies wanted Kanye and Common's kind of hip hop untill Kanye begged people long enough to give him a chance (Then he helped make other artists like Common popular when he got through). In addtion, he wouldn't have even had that kind of access if he hadn't been a producer. The market didn't know it wanted these two artist untill they got in through the black door, then all of a sudden, the market wanted them. People can only choose from what you give them. That is why it was different back in the day when everything was grassroots. You could just put out your tape on the street and if people loved it, they loved it. That is why you saw more diversity and imagination then. A company is not going to take a chance on something new even if the people might like it, they are going to go with what they believe they can depend on because their about the bottom-line.

On the other hand you're right, alot of top East Coast artists are putting out subpar stuff right now (Jayz 's Kingdom Come and Nas' Hip Hop is Dead. Hip Hop is Dead can't touch Street's Disciple). Yet there are East Coast artists out there doing there thing.

But at the same time, as I've said before, if Nas were to come out with another Illmatic it would flop too. Illmatic blew in a completely different enviornment than the one we live in now.

no
not lately,its be kanye, 50,and jayz sellin millions.
sells have nothin to do with how good a rapper u r.
promotion is y those rappers sell not because they r great rappers lol.

Tell that to their millions of fans that buy there albums and ring tones,and the thousands of ppl that probably call into work or instead of paying a bill they buy a concert ticket. Im sure they would think they're good rapers.Dont you think?:wave:

Also just because they're not good rappers to YOU.Doesnt mean they're not. I can say Nas isnt a good rapper,does it make it valid for everyone else too? Hmmm no.Its MY OPINION.

hey bro do u even know the difference from REAL HIP HOP and commercial crap RAP MUSIC?

im not trying to be a dick just seriously curious if you know the difference?

yes REAL HIP HOP is in fact in the minority these days that is correct

Different strokes for different folks.Who are you guys to say what the new generation of hiphop is. I mean seriously. Why would music labels waste millions of dollars to distribute 'crap' all over tv and the air ways. If it was so much crap it wouldnt sell and the record companies would stop.You can only try for so long to push something on someone.Then you start losing millions.

Think about that.:wave:

The record companies make decisions on what they think people want to hear, not neccesarly on what they want to hear. As I mentioned before, none of the record companies wanted Kanye and Common's kind of hip hop untill Kanye begged people long enough to give him a chance (Then he helped make other artists like Common popular when he got through). In addtion, he wouldn't have even had that kind of access if he hadn't been a producer. The market didn't know it wanted these two artist untill they got in through the black door, then all of a sudden, the market wanted them. People can only choose from what you give them. That is why it was different back in the day when everything was grassroots. You could just put out your tape on the street and if people loved it, they loved it. That is why you saw more diversity and imagination then. A company is not going to take a chance on something new even if the people might like it, they are going to go with what they believe they can depend on because their about the bottom-line.
So they're fortune tellers huh. So out of the blue a big head in the record company said."Lets throw something out and have millions behind it although the method we're using now is working perfectly,lets take a risk for no apparent reason"

That doesnt makes sense.

So they're fortune tellers huh. So out of the blue a big head in the record company said."Lets throw something out and have millions behind it although the method we're using now is working perfectly,lets take a risk for no apparent reason"

That doesnt makes sense.



No, that is my point, they make judgements about what people will buy on the basis of what they have bought in the past. Yet what people have bought in the past tells you nothing about what other things they may be open to buying. That was my whole point in bringing up Kanye and Common and how the market didn't care about that kind of Hip Hop untill Kanye could convince some cats to take a chance. The market would have said people didn't want to hear that stuff, they want to hear what's out now, but that was dead wrong. What I'm saying is theat their definately not psychic, and don't know what the people want to hear necessarly.

No, that is my point, they make judgements about what people will buy on the basis of what they have bought in the past. Yet what people have bought in the past tells you nothing about what other things they may be open to buying. That was my whole point in bringing up Kanye and Common and how the market didn't care about that kind of Hip Hop untill Kanye could convince some cats to take a chance. The market would have said people didn't want to hear that stuff, they want to hear what's out now, but that was dead wrong.

Kanye is actually a good rapper and his style is different.Unlike alot of lyrical rappers,and they wonder how come they arnt getting any play. They need to step there games up. Hiphop isnt ****in dead,its those lyrical rappers with the same plain **** that are dead.

Kanye is actually a good rapper and his style is different.Unlike alot of lyrical rappers,and they wonder how come they arnt getting any play. They need to step there games up. Hiphop isnt ****in dead,its those lyrical rappers with the same plain **** that are dead.


So you really think that Common's voice and delivery is exciting apart from his lyrics?

So you really think that Common's voice and delivery is exciting apart from his lyrics?

He has good choruses also,and beats. Thats what you need to make it.You cant have a killer slow and a suck ass beat.

He has good choruses also,and beats. Thats what you need to make it.You cant have a killer slow and a suck ass beat.

Yeah, and you also have to find the right producer not just a good one. I know that's the problem with Nas. He wants to spend millions on Will I AM instead of hooking up with somone like Premiere who he knows he works well with.

Yeah, and you also have to find the right producer not just a good one. I know that's the problem with Nas. He wants to spend millions on Will I AM instead of hooking up with somone like Premiere who he knows he works well with.

They're stupid.They let there pride overshadow.

Technically, the garbage that has been coming from the south hasn't sold.

Hurricane Chris being the latest... dude flopped harded then Yayo.

Outside of a few (UGK, Cham, Outkast) the rest from the south is GARBAGE.

Technically, the garbage that has been coming from the south hasn't sold.

Hurricane Chris being the latest... dude flopped harded then Yayo.

Outside of a few (UGK, Cham, Outkast) the rest from the south is GARBAGE.

Hurricane Chris? You can do better then that.He had 1 hit wonder all over him.That song sucked anyway.

Hurricane Chris? You can do better then that.He had 1 hit wonder all over him.That song sucked anyway.

hurricane chris AY BAYBAY? makes me wanna listen to country music!

hey u bustaz 4 elements of true HIP HOP:
1)emceeing
2)DJing
3)break dancing/bboying
4)graffiti

how many of you actually practiced/practice these things?

i was an OG in all 4
still can rock at all 4

notice theres no element of gangbangin or gun talk or being hard mentioned there or getting drunk, being hard wannabe gangstas or drug dealing there

hey u bustaz 4 elements of true HIP HOP:
1)emceeing
2)DJing
3)break dancing/bboying
4)graffiti

how many of you actually practiced/practice these things?

i was an OG in all 4
still can rock at all 4

notice theres no element of gangbangin or gun talk or being hard mentioned there or getting drunk, being hard wannabe gangstas or drug dealing there

Well thats what alot of them live so theyre expressing them.

The only people who liked that Ay Bay Bay song were *****es. Hurricane Chris looks ****ing funny himself and the only use that song has done for me is the music in my montage where I call out my sniper shots (ay bay bay) on H3, but other than that he sucks dick.

Well thats what alot of them live so theyre expressing them.

im asking u bro what of the elements have you practiced/practice to be a true certified hip hop head?

The only people who liked that Ay Bay Bay song were *****es. Hurricane Chris looks ****ing funny himself and the only use that song has done for me is the music in my montage where I call out my sniper shots (ay bay bay) on H3, but other than that he sucks dick.

i concurr its songs like AY BAY BAY that kill true hip hop and have ugly fat white chicks wanting more of that type of crap music that the corporate suits shove out into our faces

50 Posts and so far only 3 names of examples that hip-hop isn't dead. 3 names is all we can come up with at this point. There are a few more, but that's an example that people aren't jumping in with names of dozens of quality artists keeping hip-hop alive. Yes, Common is out there and Talib Kweli and Nas and Jay-Z have gotten mixed reactions on here.

But what's the top-selling rap song out there right now? It's that Soulja Boy bull****. And one of the other top-sellers of the year is Ay Bay Bay. And many other throwaway singles we could name.

Even Chamillionaire, one of the top names in the South, didn't have a hit with his new disc - no top radio singles, nothing... Because he actually rapped a little bit and had a few coherent thoughts on the disc instead of nonsense chanting mixed with overproduction...

im asking u bro what of the elements have you practiced/practice to be a true certified hip hop head?

Just because you do something doesnt mean you're better then other ppl when speaking your mind with your words. Am I better then Bert Sugar with boxing knowledge although he's never boxed? I hope you got that point.

Just because you do something doesnt mean you're better then other ppl when speaking your mind with your words. Am I better then Bert Sugar with boxing knowledge although he's never boxed? I hope you got that point.

no u wrong bro.

cats who have actually stepped in a emcee battle like myself and cyphered.

cats who have actually showed up to a bboy battle with their breakdance crew to battle all the other crews that night like myself.

cats who put up graffiti in their younger days and been in tag wars with their crew like myself

the only thing i admit is i never been in a DJ battle nor will i front that i can possible last in a DJ battle cuz i never fine tuned that element ill admit that much.

so yeah cats who got the credibility of the elements have a more credible opinion than someone that has not. i mean we are talking REAL HIP HOP right?

Tell that to their millions of fans that buy there albums and ring tones,and the thousands of ppl that probably call into work or instead of paying a bill they buy a concert ticket. Im sure they would think they're good rapers.Dont you think?:wave:

Also just because they're not good rappers to YOU.Doesnt mean they're not. I can say Nas isnt a good rapper,does it make it valid for everyone else too? Hmmm no.Its MY OPINION.

WHAT MILLIONS OF PEOPLE?

besides t.i. last year no1 else from the south has gone plat.

no u wrong bro.

cats who have actually stepped in a emcee battle like myself and cyphered.

cats who have actually showed up to a bboy battle with their breakdance crew to battle all the other crews that night like myself.

cats who put up graffiti in their younger days and been in tag wars with their crew like myself

the only thing i admit is i never been in a DJ battle nor will i front that i can possible last in a DJ battle cuz i never fine tuned that element ill admit that much.

so yeah cats who got the credibility of the elements have a more credible opinion than someone that has not. i mean we are talking REAL HIP HOP right?
I know whats real hip hop to ME,and so does everyone else.I dont need someone to tell me what my view of hiphop should be.Ya feel me?

WHAT MILLIONS OF PEOPLE?

besides t.i. last year no1 else from the south has gone plat.

Ludacris didnt? Wayne didnt? Serious question,not trying to be sarcastic.

They're stupid.They let there pride overshadow.


Yes there are certain artists who make stupid decisions.

What you said about beats though helps make the original point.
If the production in a song is as important as you say in making it successful then a good beat can make a hit song for a frivolous rapper or someone like Common. So why should the label pick a rapper like Common? The answer is they never did. They just went with what they thought would work and so these other rappers had to come in through the back door. However when they finally got through, the people wanted to here it and they got big. It's like I said before, the people can only choose if their given a choice.

Yes there are certain artists who make stupid decisions.

What you said about beats though helps make the original point.
If the production in a song is as important as you say in making it successful then a good beat can make a hit song for a frivolous rapper or someone like Common. So why should the label pick a rapper like Common? The answer is they never did. They just went with what they thought would work and so these other rappers had to come in through the back door. However when they finally got through, the people wanted to here it and they got big. It's like I said before, the people can only choose if their given a choice.

There wont be plenty that sneak threw like Common has.Well not right now.

Now here is some Southern rap worth listening to.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IOncyK7tZhM



http://youtube.com/watch?v=8vtu1ufgQ10

Hip Hop is not dead. It's in a state of general decline due to the fact that the artists getting signed follow whatever trend is popular rather than speak their mind. Like sheep following a shepard. It's not the south's fault that today's generation of young teens love their music. Kids our easy to influence, and sometimes that influence sticks in your brain as you grow older. Chamillionaire is a perfect example of a solid southern artist that's not getting a lot of mainstream love. Why isnt he? Because he's not a sheep following the shepard (record label trends). His album is pretty solid, he's gotten good reviews, but he's not getting a lot of love because he doesnt have that catchy hit that the "sheep" want to hear. "Ridin' dirty" caught their attention, but on his following album he's actually got something to say, he's speaking his mind and not just trying to make a song because he thinks it will sell him more records, no matter what it's about. I say the things I do about hip hop because of my experiences in listening to and purchasing music.

Perfect example. I think I was a freshman in high school when Master P's "Ghetto Dope" came out. A friend told me I should listen to it, and it was fresh, something different. Then, I was following No Limit, and I'd buy almost every album they released, no matter who it was. It soon got to the point where I thought to myself "why the **** does everyone still love this ****? Every artist is saying the same ass bull**** on every album". They were pumping out an album a month, and saying the same bull**** over and over. 400 Degreez dropped, and the sheep had a new shepard. Cash Money's huge popularity died down slowly, just like No Limit's, and the sheep waited for a new shepard. It started like that in the mid to late 90's, and it won't stop unless the sheep decide to be shepards, and open their minds.

Hip Hop is not dead. It's in a state of general decline due to the fact that the artists getting signed follow whatever trend is popular rather than speak their mind. Like sheep following a shepard. It's not the south's fault that today's generation of young teens love their music. Kids our easy to influence, and sometimes that influence sticks in your brain as you grow older. Chamillionaire is a perfect example of a solid southern artist that's not getting a lot of mainstream love. Why isnt he? Because he's not a sheep following the shepard (record label trends). His album is pretty solid, he's gotten good reviews, but he's not getting a lot of love because he doesnt have that catchy hit that the "sheep" want to hear. "Ridin' dirty" caught their attention, but on his following album he's actually got something to say, he's speaking his mind and not just trying to make a song because he thinks it will sell him more records, no matter what it's about. I say the things I do about hip hop because of my experiences in listening to and purchasing music.

Perfect example. I think I was a freshman in high school when Master P's "Ghetto Dope" came out. A friend told me I should listen to it, and it was fresh, something different. Then, I was following No Limit, and I'd buy almost every album they released, no matter who it was. It soon got to the point where I thought to myself "why the **** does everyone still love this ****? Every artist is saying the same ass bull**** on every album". They were pumping out an album a month, and saying the same bull**** over and over. 400 Degreez dropped, and the sheep had a new shepard. Cash Money's huge popularity died down slowly, just like No Limit's, and the sheep waited for a new shepard. It started like that in the mid to late 90's, and it won't stop unless the sheep decide to be shepards, and open their minds.

Actually if you buy some of those down south albums,they do have messages. Listen to Plies album,there are plenty in there.

Hip Hop is not dead. It's in a state of general decline due to the fact that the artists getting signed follow whatever trend is popular rather than speak their mind. Like sheep following a shepard. It's not the south's fault that today's generation of young teens love their music. Kids our easy to influence, and sometimes that influence sticks in your brain as you grow older. Chamillionaire is a perfect example of a solid southern artist that's not getting a lot of mainstream love. Why isnt he? Because he's not a sheep following the shepard (record label trends). His album is pretty solid, he's gotten good reviews, but he's not getting a lot of love because he doesnt have that catchy hit that the "sheep" want to hear. "Ridin' dirty" caught their attention, but on his following album he's actually got something to say, he's speaking his mind and not just trying to make a song because he thinks it will sell him more records, no matter what it's about. I say the things I do about hip hop because of my experiences in listening to and purchasing music.

Perfect example. I think I was a freshman in high school when Master P's "Ghetto Dope" came out. A friend told me I should listen to it, and it was fresh, something different. Then, I was following No Limit, and I'd buy almost every album they released, no matter who it was. It soon got to the point where I thought to myself "why the **** does everyone still love this ****? Every artist is saying the same ass bull**** on every album". They were pumping out an album a month, and saying the same bull**** over and over. 400 Degreez dropped, and the sheep had a new shepard. Cash Money's huge popularity died down slowly, just like No Limit's, and the sheep waited for a new shepard. It started like that in the mid to late 90's, and it won't stop unless the sheep decide to be shepards, and open their minds.

Don't care for Chamillionaire's music, but I respect him as an artist.

Don't care for Chamillionaire's music, but I respect him as an artist.

The old Chamillionaire is better,well to me he is. His catch phrases and metaphors were something.

Plies has problems speaking basic english...