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Prime RJJ cant be beaten

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Prime RJJ cant be beaten

what he said...^^

Yo I'm not knocking RJJ. In his prime he was second to none. But the dude gets his lights put out if he gets hit with a clean jab lol.

Seriously. If you get Ko'd for 20 minutes off a medium strength Tarver punch...cmon, Zag is sure to land.

Prime Jones kills Calzaghe.. If they were to fight now. Roys combination of handspeed and power would completely throw Joe off. Joe cant hurt Roy.. I say Roy wins this fight.. but its definetly too little reward big risk for Joe, and he will definefly avoid this fight at all costs.. they dont want any part of RJJ...

Roy offered to fight joe in wales and only take 40% of the purse and they still said no... they dont want to take the risk..

Prime Jones kills Calzaghe.. If they were to fight now. Roys combination of handspeed and power would completely throw Joe off

Oh stop it. Prime RJJ, you have a legit argument, but right now? Cal-KO easy.

Touch Jones lightly in the jaw 1 time and it's lights out for a half hour. Flashlights in the eyes, the whole 9 lol.

RJJ is like the hidden unlockable character in the video game who has 100 in every stat except chin lol.

1 clean str8 left from Zag, game over for real...sorry. And, I love prime RJJ.

yea no offense.. but i dont see joe hurting him. and the handspeed is still there.. this is not an easy fight for joe.

yea no offense.. but i dont see joe hurting him. and the handspeed is still there.. this is not an easy fight for joe.

Zag has power. Don't believe the "slap" hype. He bangs.

yea i got no hate for the guy.. and I can easily be wrong.. this is just my view on the fight.. Joe is not used to a guy who can match or even surpass his handspeed.. and roy has the power to go with it.. Roy has deadly combos to the body.. I just think even at his age now he is big trouble for Joe. but it doesnt mean im right by any means.. just how I see it.

yea i got no hate for the guy.. and I can easily be wrong.. this is just my view on the fight.. Joe is not used to a guy who can match or even surpass his handspeed.. and roy has the power to go with it.. Roy has deadly combos to the body

Ya know what. In all honesty, I'd have to say...you're more likely correct than me.

Im not sure how many sothpaws Jones has faced, but against Deric Harmon, Jones seemed to have serious trouble with rightys.

I believe Jones could and probably would KO Calzaghe. But i think Calzaghe would truly stretch Jones. At Supermiddle we never saw Jones really tested. I dont think any of his opponents comes close to what Calzaghe would bring.

I also think Calzaghe was a harder puncher when he was younger. Just watch his first round knock down of the granite chinned Eubank. He was also faster when he was younger.

Its a much closer match up then people think IMO.

i'm o the fence with this one

Im not sure how many sothpaws Jones has faced, but against Deric Harmon, Jones seemed to have serious trouble with rightys.
I believe Jones could and probably would KO Calzaghe. But i think Calzaghe would truly stretch Jones. At Supermiddle we never saw Jones really tested. I dont think any of his opponents comes close to what Calzaghe would bring.

I also think Calzaghe was a harder puncher when he was younger. Just watch his first round knock down of the granite chinned Eubank. He was also faster when he was younger.

Its a much closer match up then people think IMO.


howabout tarver!

howabout tarver!

Howabout Tarver?

Well if ROID Jones Jr passed a drugs test, Calzaghe would have the biggest test of his career ever, but would still come through in my eyes.

Joe is a great fighter, but I would have no problem betting on RJ. A prime Jones was really something fierce to deal with. By the time Tarver and Johnson got to him, his peak had passed. But lets not forget how special he really was.

Well if ROID Jones Jr passed a drugs test, Calzaghe would have the biggest test of his career ever, but would still come through in my eyes.

as your location says Wales lol... we ar all so very shocked by that biased prediction lmao..

Prime Jones kills Calzaghe.. If they were to fight now. Roys combination of handspeed and power would completely throw Joe off. Joe cant hurt Roy.. I say Roy wins this fight.. but its definetly too little reward big risk for Joe, and he will definefly avoid this fight at all costs.. they dont want any part of RJJ...

Roy offered to fight joe in wales and only take 40% of the purse and they still said no... they dont want to take the risk..
prime for prime, a prime RJJ would beat joe by close decision but the RJJ now would get KO'd by calzaghe his workrate is much too high for the current RJJ to deal with he getting old and his reflexs while still great aren't what they used to be and frankly at this point in Roy's career Joe Calzaghe match's RJJ handspeed if not slightly slower. If the fight were to happen now i pick mid to late KO for zag. I'm not biased look at my avatar but RJJ isn't what he used to be zag would murder him now.

i think cal would have a great chance i say cal U.D

if they fought now cal K.O

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as your location says Wales lol... we ar all so very shocked by that biased prediction lmao..

Well you must be judging me by your own standards. The only way where i live influences this decision is that I have always had Calzaghe as the "hometown hero", and due to that I have been exposed to pretty much everything Calzaghe has ever done, so I have seen how his career has progressed and rate him fairly. RJJ of old is actually my prefered fighter of the two (only if we forget the drug scandal), so no bias here. Where I live has nothing to do with the fact that Calzaghe could almost match prime RJJ for speed and workrate and he has the more solid chin of the two, so that is why RJJ would get knocked out by a prime (and by prime I mean no hand trouble) Calzaghe.

prime for prime, a prime RJJ would beat joe by close decision but the RJJ now would get KO'd by calzaghe his workrate is much too high for the current RJJ to deal with he getting old and his reflexs while still great aren't what they used to be and frankly at this point in Roy's career Joe Calzaghe match's RJJ handspeed if not slightly slower. If the fight were to happen now i pick mid to late KO for zag. I'm not biased look at my avatar but RJJ isn't what he used to be zag would murder him now.

you musta forgot wut prime roy was like.. wouldnt be close at all and wouldnt go the distance. And yes now I still thinks his style would cauze too much probs for joe.. thats yer opinion and yer entitled to it.. but this is how i see it..

17 to 4?

Prime RJJ was crazy but cmon.

as your location says Wales lol... we ar all so very shocked by that biased prediction lmao..

:pat: How the **** can u talk about bias when ur user name, user title, and sig all are dedications to Roy Jones???:rolleyes:

I live in the UK, and have watched Calzaghe for over 10 years. Ive also watched Jones since 1994. It sems many Americans have only seen Calzaghe fighting Lacy, Manfredo and Kessler. Personally i think those who have followed both fighters has more valid opinion. No matter where they live.

Roy Jones by UD Jones made Hall Of Famers look stupid Calzaghe has shown he is vunerable to right hands he was caught over and over by Reid and even by Woodhall Jones in his prime was never even hurt and he was up against some great opposition i think Calzaghe is good fighter but Jones was something else.

you musta forgot wut prime roy was like.. wouldnt be close at all and wouldnt go the distance. And yes now I still thinks his style would cauze too much probs for joe.. thats yer opinion and yer entitled to it.. but this is how i see it..
of course i havn't forgot what the prime rjj was like he was my favourite modern fighter. But i honestly believe that in rjj prime v prime zag that rjj would win by close decision rjj has never fought anyone that could match or possibly exceed his workrate and stamina not to mention zag has a great chin, it would go the distance a fight now on the other hand would put rjj on the floor or end up in a wide ud for zag. thinking rjj would win now is just plain stupid he couldn't finish hanshaw who is untested and fresh and needs a lot more fights to gain experience. Despite roy's statements saying he was "carrying" Hanshaw (which i don't believe). This is how i see either fight play out.

Roy Jones is the only guy i would pick over Calzaghe....i would even pick JC over Toney....but not over Jones...

Roy Jones is the only guy i would pick over Calzaghe....i would even pick JC over Toney....but not over Jones...co-sign....

Roy Jones is the only guy i would pick over Calzaghe....i would even pick JC over Toney....but not over Jones...

agreed... Jones style and handspeed is an absolute nightmare for Joe.. Roy is wayy far from what he used to be... but still the worst possible matchup for joe..

Joe being a south paw would be a great advantage to Joe.

I think Calzaghe would bring out the best in Roy.

prime for prime, a prime RJJ would beat joe by close decision but the RJJ now would get KO'd by calzaghe his workrate is much too high for the current RJJ to deal with he getting old and his reflexs while still great aren't what they used to be and frankly at this point in Roy's career Joe Calzaghe match's RJJ handspeed if not slightly slower. If the fight were to happen now i pick mid to late KO for zag. I'm not biased look at my avatar but RJJ isn't what he used to be zag would murder him now.

when last joe ko somebody?i dont know if some of you guys are crazy or blind, you talk as if joe is a big punsher, i think he is not.

when last joe ko somebody?i dont know if some of you guys are crazy or blind, you talk as if joe is a big punsher, i think he is not.

To answer your question the last time Calzaghe KO someone was before he was even World champion back in 1997.

Accomplishmentwise, Joe Calzaghe is most likely the best 168 fighter in history.

But in the ring, prime for prime, Roy Jones Jr. at 168 is just too much.

when last joe ko somebody?i dont know if some of you guys are crazy or blind, you talk as if joe is a big punsher, i think he is not.
neither was johnson or tarver. Roy managed to take some big shots in his prime and his chin held up. His chin gave way during his fights with tarver and Johnson. If you watch Kessler-Calzaghe he manages to hurt Kessler with a body shot then the ref split them up. Zag doesn't have one hit KO power but and accumulation of punches on RJJ now not prime 4 prime would take its toll. Prime 4 prime i pick RJJ by a close decision, But nowdays Zag for a late TKO or UD

neither was johnson or tarver. Roy managed to take some big shots in his prime and his chin held up. His chin gave way during his fights with tarver and Johnson. If you watch Kessler-Calzaghe he manages to hurt Kessler with a body shot then the ref split them up. Zag doesn't have one hit KO power but and accumulation of punches on RJJ now not prime 4 prime would take its toll. Prime 4 prime i pick RJJ by a close decision, But nowdays Zag for a late TKO or UD

what big shots did he take in his prime?? I dont remmeber much except that flash knockdown from his former sparring partner lou de valle.

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what big shots did he take in his prime?? I dont remmeber much except that flash knockdown from his former sparring partner lou de valle.
thats the point any and all shot he took didn't seem too affect him alone but when you add them together it seems to have taken it's toll

To answer your question the last time Calzaghe KO someone was before he was even World champion back in 1997.

Joe has had some excellent stoppages. No one ever put Eubank down the way Calzaghe did. He used to have a great punch.

Joe has had some excellent stoppages. No one ever put Eubank down the way Calzaghe did. He used to have a great punch. Watson put Eubank down pretty good Eubank was caught cold against Calzaghe he was moving backwards at the time and was caught off balance with jolting hook it was good shot but Eubank was just caught cold and moving backwards and the other knockdown was when Eubank's gloves touched the canvas i believe ?? but you are right Calzaghe did used to be a banger in his early career but Jones knocked out Virgil Hill with one body shot and also knocked out Thomas Tate who not long before went 12 rounds with one of the hardest hitting Middleweights of all time Julian Jackson if we are talking prime for prime in power department then im sorry Jones takes this one.

Ok I'm here. THE G-MIKE. I will settle it once n for all. JC Pennies is a very good fighter At home! On the road again I'm not so sure. RJ is crazy great! Robinson, Duran, Greb, Great in the 1990s. Do U's think JC is n that level? Hell No! Jones wood shred em to pieces. M

when last joe ko somebody?i dont know if some of you guys are crazy or blind, you talk as if joe is a big punsher, i think he is not.

He put Chris Eubank down hard, he pretty much KO'd Byron Mitchell, both men were regarded as having a granite chin. Even in his last fight, Kessler was hurt badly FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HIS CAREER. Anyone who says Calzaghe cant punch is an American who is fixated on all this "slap" hype, believe you me, he bangs.

To answer your question the last time Calzaghe KO someone was before he was even World champion back in 1997.

Actually it was Manfredo, no more that 2 fights ago. And dont give me this bullshit TKO vs KO thing, a stoppage is a stoppage, end of.

Here are my top 5 robinson, greb, duran, armstrong, sanchez. Who says 36 yr olds don't know boxing. 160 to 168 RJ was the fastest human ever. JC Penny's is very good. Peak 4 peak RJ easily. Now! If RJ wood of retired bouts around the ruiz fight he wood of been no 1 all-time. What If? The G-Mike!

Jones by UD.

Roy Jones Jr vs Joe Calzaghe (Primes)

this is a 50/50 fight and anything could happen.
Height and size advangage belongs to Calzaghe
Power advantage belongs to Jones
Pure boxing ability belongs to Calzaghe
Speed advantage belongs to Jones (debatable)
Better chin belongs to Calzaghe

i see it like this, Joe had a lot of trouble with Robin Reid because Reid could match his boxing ability and skill. Calzaghe usually looks good against power punchers that are taylor made for him like Lacy or Kessler but when he has to fight a tactical match, he does not look as good. Roy has problems with southpaws. He was knocked down in his prime by a southpaw who was not even elite. even though Roy was past his prime when he fought Tarver, he still showed that he has a hard time with slick southpaws and Calzaghe is as slick as they come. This is one of the most difficult picks that i ever had to make. its one of those questions where i might pick one fighter today, and the other fighter tommorow...LOL!. but as of this moment, if i had to choose, i would go with Roy by spilt decision, but i am not sleeping on Calzaghe. who knows, i might edit this post in the future and change my opinion...LOL. i just wish that this fight would have happened back when Roy was a super middleweight so we could have found out.

Prime RJJ vs Prime Calzaghe?

Is this a serious question?

RJJ all the way.