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heat27
11-02-2007, 08:28 AM
Nas' Album Title Gets Support From Jay-Z, Alicia Keys, LL Cool J, Reverend Run

The artists are backing MC (although Jay calls concept 'misguided'); meanwhile, Duane 'Dog' Chapman's comments are adding fuel to the controversy over racist terms.

By Shaheem Reid, with additional reporting by Garth Bardsley, Rahman Dukes, Tim Kash and Brennan Williams

If Nas' master plan holds up, the first music from his controversially titled album ****** will be out next week. There hasn't been an album that has caused this much ruckus without one note being consumed by the general public since, well, Nas' last LP, 2006's Hip Hop Is Dead. The title alone has garnered condemnation from civil-rights activists, some even going so far as to say that they will organize boycotts of the entire Universal Music Group if subsidiary company Island/ Def Jam goes ahead and releases the LP.

A couple of weeks ago, Island Def Jam Music Group Chairman Antonio "L.A." Reid told MTV News that he and his company stand fully by Nas and his album. Jay-Z, Def Jam's president and CEO, recently expressed the same sentiment of support, although he didn't necessarily seem to fully agree with Nas' reasoning.

"I know he's very intelligent and there a reason behind what he's doing," Jay told MTV News. "He's not just doing it for the sake of being provocative. Of course we're going to support his art. ... I hope [the concept] is coming from a great place. I believe it's coming from a great place. I just think [the controversy is] misguided. People give strength to words, power to words. If your remove '******,' then you have 'jiggaboo' and 'porch monkey,' the words will keep continuing. How many words you gonna take out? People give the words power. I think we need to direct that [energy] towards the community.

"The first thing you do when you sit with a psychiatrist is they go back to your childhood. It all stems from there. So all these things that's happening in these neighborhood, the worst schools, drug-infested areas ... of course people are going to be hostile. So if you fix that, you fix self-esteem, you fix hope. ... Then they'll be another thing. But you can't remove a word and think all the problems don't exist. Like I said, it's misguided."

In recent weeks, Common, Akon, Method Man and others have expressed their support for Nas — but not 50 Cent, who said Nas is going for "shock value" with the controversial album name — and fellow Def Jam artist LL Cool J also says he doesn't have a problem with the title.

"It don't matter to me," he said. "Why not? It's great marketing. People are talking about it like they are talking about Hip Hop Is Dead. He's obviously going to have reason behind it. I don't think it's ignorant, because he's a real intelligent guy.

When asked to consider that Nas has said he's trying to take power away from the word, LL said, "He wants to make the anti-snakebite venom," and laughed. "He's giving [people] a vaccination, he wants to desensitize them. Why not? Do your thing. I'm waiting to hear the record. Nas is a grown man, he makes his own decision. It's an interesting title. I don't think the N-word is going anywhere. It's just a cultural thing. Does it offend me? It's according to who says it. Other than that, it's not going anywhere. What's the big deal?"

"I guess he wants to address that word," Reverend Run surmised, "I'm sure it'll get a lot of attention, and I appreciate it."

Run's older brother Russell Simmons' eyes lit up when asked about his take on the album name. He said he liked it: "Good title!"

"I think Nas is a very innovative artist," Alicia Keys said. "He's incredible, he's not a fool. If he has something shocking to say, it's because he wants you to pay attention to it."

Hateful overtones of racism were splashed all over the news on Thursday (November 1). Comedian Katt Williams had an animated exchange on CNN in which he explained why he wore a noose around his neck at the recent BET Awards. Meanwhile, A&E announced it would be suspending production of the reality show "Dog the Bounty Hunter" after a phone conversation between Duane "Dog" Chapman and his son — during which Chapman used the N-word twice — hit the Internet. Chapman's son was dating a black woman.

In a statement to CNN, Chapman said, "My sincerest, heartfelt apologies go out to every person I have offended for my regrettable use of very inappropriate language. I am deeply disappointed in myself for speaking out of anger to my son and using such a hateful term in a private phone conversation ... I was disappointed in his choice of a friend, not due to her race, but her character," he said. "However, I should have never used that term."

The Rev. Al Sharpton, who has condemned Nas for titling his new album the way he did, released a joint statement with Abraham H. Foxman, national director and chairman of the Anti-Defamation League, relating to the Chapman incident.

"The recent epidemic of nooses and swastikas appearing in various places in our communities are acts of hate, and are intended to intimidate and instill fear," the statement said. "Such acts are despicable, and we call upon all people of good will — of all races, religions and ethnicities — to stand up and say such acts will not be tolerated."

Sharpton also wrote a letter to Chapman saying they should meet and that he should march with Sharpton during his "Washington DC March on Hate Crimes" rally on November 16.

Nas' ****** is due December 11.

neils7147933
11-02-2007, 09:46 AM
It's a gimmick title from a pretentious artist trying to stay relevant...

Smokin'
11-02-2007, 12:53 PM
Neils, you're right. Album will flop just like Hip Hop is Dead.

The Fix
11-02-2007, 01:33 PM
ill by it, like i did all his other ****.

Smokin'
11-02-2007, 01:34 PM
fix stinks like poo

The Fix
11-02-2007, 01:38 PM
fix stinks like poo

if poo smells like allure by chanel for men.

Smokin'
11-02-2007, 01:40 PM
if poo smells like allure by chanel for men.

lol, you ***. I have Tommy 8 and haven't been feeling/smelling better.

The Fix
11-02-2007, 01:49 PM
lol, you ***. I have Tommy 8 and haven't been feeling/smelling better.

step your game up broke ass *****. tommy 8? **** are you 15?

Smokin'
11-02-2007, 01:53 PM
step your game up broke ass *****. tommy 8? **** are you 15?

bro that **** was 70 bucks.............

The Fix
11-02-2007, 01:58 PM
bro that **** was 70 bucks.............

bro **** off.

Smokin'
11-02-2007, 01:59 PM
im serious, niglet. Plus I anit a baller Im a broke *****!

res
11-03-2007, 06:18 PM
50 Cent isn't an artist himself, his entire career is a publicity stunt so it is no wonder he would see everyone else's motives as publicity driven.

res
11-03-2007, 06:28 PM
It's a gimmick title from a pretentious artist trying to stay relevant...

Nas isn't relevant? what planet are you on?

heat27
11-03-2007, 06:35 PM
Neils, you're right. Album will flop just like Hip Hop is Dead.

lol
but hip hop is dead didnt flop.
350,000 first week aint a flop.
if its is then 95% of hip hop albums that came out
since 2005 have flopped.

neils7147933
11-03-2007, 09:00 PM
Nas isn't relevant? what planet are you on?
I didn't say he wasn't relevant. I said he was trying to stay relevant. As in keep his name in the news with new artists hogging the spotlight.

He should be able to release a self-titled album and turn a profit for his label and keep his name on the minds of real hip-hop fans. But he won't get on MTV News, or CNN, with that.

That word has been around way longer than Nas has and has directly affected thousands and thousands of people to a much greater degree than it has Nas. I can't imagine anything short of a major concept album exclusively dedicated to the history of the word or the people affected throughout the years by that word, would be worthy of attaching that title to it.

It's like getting a cheap pop by putting a naked girl's pic or a dead body on the album cover or saying something else profane or outrageous. Nas should be better than that. And I doubt the album is worthy of that title. Just like Hip-Hop Is Dead didn't live up to the hype, or ultimately the title.

res
11-03-2007, 09:22 PM
I can't imagine anything short of a major concept album exclusively dedicated to the history of the word or the people affected throughout the years by that word, would be worthy of attaching that title to it.


That would be a good idea.

On the other hand his claim is that he wants to cheapen the word i.e. rob it of it's power to do any more damage.

neils7147933
11-03-2007, 09:32 PM
That would be a good idea.

On the other hand his claim is that he wants to cheapen the word i.e. rob it of it's power to do any more damage.
Nas doesn't have the power to "take the word back" - - no more than any rapper saying it

He puts out another Illmatic - he doesn't have to name his next album "Jiggaboo"

res
11-03-2007, 09:55 PM
Nas doesn't have the power to "take the word back" - - no more than any rapper saying it

He puts out another Illmatic - he doesn't have to name his next album "Jiggaboo"

Most rappers don't say it.
They say "*****" which has a different meaning and function than the traditional slur.

and ofcourse all an individual can ever do is try to start a movement, not execute the movement themselves.

neils7147933
11-03-2007, 09:58 PM
Most rappers don't say it.
They say "*****" which has a different meaning and function than the traditional slur.

and ofcourse all an individual can ever do is try to start a movement, not execute the movement themselves.
I'd buy he was starting a movement a little bit more if he wasn't getting paid off every disc sold...lol

I think some of the "old guard" in rap are getting a little full of themselves. It started with KRS-One but it's in with some younger guys like Jay-Z and Nas now.

I don't have any problem with him naming his album whatever he wants to name it - just don't thing he needs support or credit for this one. If Eve's next album is called "Cunt" does she get all this press?

res
11-04-2007, 03:45 AM
I'd buy he was starting a movement a little bit more if he wasn't getting paid off every disc sold...lol

I think some of the "old guard" in rap are getting a little full of themselves. It started with KRS-One but it's in with some younger guys like Jay-Z and Nas now.

I don't have any problem with him naming his album whatever he wants to name it - just don't thing he needs support or credit for this one. If Eve's next album is called "Cunt" does she get all this press?

KRS-ONE has always been crazy, that is not a good example.

Also that argument is, atleast in general form, something like that of those who argue that all rap artists are only about money just because they get paid.
My response to that has always gone like this. If someone (maybe a billionaire, maybe the government if that makes you feel more comfortable) offered to pay you 500, 000 dollars a year to take care of your children would you do it? If you did would that mean you were only doing it for the money?
True Rappers do something that they love, but since it yeilds money , ofcourse they take it. This dosen't prove that they do it just for the money anymore than that idea was proven in the example that I gave. The same goes for the individual details of that creativity (the naming of an album) . Now ofcourse you could argue that Nas was doing it for publicity for some other reason, but not simply because he is getting paid. Change always comes with controverssy and since we live in a commercial economy, alot of that change is going to come commercially.

MetalVomit
11-06-2007, 09:53 AM
I think he did it to get everyone's attention, he's going to sell records regardless, he's already sold 12+ million, your message dont mean **** if no one hears it. He must want everyone to hear this ****. We'll have to wait until the album drops to be sure though.

LMAO @ 50 Cent being the pot calling the kettle black.