View Full Version : Does Mundine Have Much Left In His Career?


newforce
10-29-2007, 02:49 AM
Is Mundine getting too old in the SM division?He's 32 years of age.

Does he have much time left in his career to stamp his authority on the supermiddle/middleweight division? or is he leaving it too late?

brently1979
10-29-2007, 02:55 AM
Is Mundine getting too old in the SM division?He's 32 years of age.

Does he have much time left in his career to stamp his authority on the supermiddle/middleweight division? or is he leaving it too late?

At this rate his starting to leave it a bit too late. I think when he hits 35, he'll start the downhill run.

mgkirkpatrick
10-29-2007, 03:00 AM
id say he has a few years left.. alot of boxers would start to dwindle at that age but he's a healthy cunt and hasnt been in many wars so he should have a few more good years left in him

brently1979
10-29-2007, 03:14 AM
id say he has a few years left.. alot of boxers would start to dwindle at that age but he's a healthy cunt and hasnt been in many wars so he should have a few more good years left in him

The question is how will he spend those years??

mgkirkpatrick
10-29-2007, 03:42 AM
haha fighting bums.. milking the aussie public by fighting green again.. and then maybe rematching kessler. my guess.

Dick-Sucker
10-29-2007, 03:52 AM
I think he will fight well until about 38. Just on the basis that is seriously healthy. Ever since the time i read, he hadn't touched soft drink in 4 years, i believed that. Doesn't drink. Should be oright to fight till then.

But here is the problem!. Is he willing to fight some big names?

Logic says no.

Talent wise, he has the ability to beat Bute and Kessler on his night, but only if all goes well against Kess.

I think its getting to that time. That he can't even have a tune up fight next. Hes got to name Kessler or Bute (Bute should be second choice).

In all honesty though if Danny beats Drews. I want to see him fight Danny for the WBA light heavy weight title. If he wins that, he is top 20 pound for pound.

mgkirkpatrick
10-29-2007, 03:55 AM
I think he will fight well until about 38. Just on the basis that is seriously healthy. Ever since the time i read, he hadn't touched soft drink in 4 years, i believed that. Doesn't drink. Should be oright to fight till then.

But here is the problem!. Is he willing to fight some big names?

Logic says no.

Talent wise, he has the ability to beat Bute and Kessler on his night, but only if all goes well against Kess.

I think its getting to that time. That he can't even have a tune up fight next. Hes got to name Kessler or Bute (Bute should be second choice).

In all honesty though if Danny beats Drews. I want to see him fight Danny for the WBA light heavy weight title. If he wins that, he is top 20 pound for pound.



highly contentious statement ultimate..

Dick-Sucker
10-29-2007, 04:51 AM
highly contentious statement ultimate..

Yeh its a weird statement as well. Say by the chance Danny wins then he beats him. Well he has the WBA super mid and WBA light heavyweight titles. I was contemplating what this meant. But its rare throughout the heavier divisions that a boxer holds titles in two weight divisions, in fact does anyone now? from middleweight upwards. Thats why i was thinking top 20. If it did happen. But a lot of if's.

Would like to hear everyones thoughts on this? Take in mind im not certain but what does it mean to hold two titles in two divisions?

KoolWillie
10-29-2007, 06:53 AM
Anthony's Dad held the Cruiser Light Heavy and Heavy weight australian tittles all out the same time

Dick-Sucker
10-29-2007, 07:59 AM
Anthony's Dad held the Cruiser Light Heavy and Heavy weight australian tittles all out the same time

Yeh but if Green wins. And Mundine beats green. Then thats 2 world titles. So do you think it grants pound for pound top 20? Interesting.

woftam
10-29-2007, 05:22 PM
Yeh but if Green wins. And Mundine beats green. Then thats 2 world titles. So do you think it grants pound for pound top 20? Interesting.

No I don't think so.
I believe you need at least a couple of big scalps to be considered top 20 p4p. At the moment he has nothing in this category because Green and Soliman aren't considered big scalps. He needs a Kessler or Calzaghe scalp to climb the p4p list in my opinion.

newforce
10-29-2007, 09:10 PM
Green won't have any chance of beating Mundine.Whats kind of impact will a few more kgs have on the rematch - not much

brently1979
10-30-2007, 10:48 PM
Green won't have any chance of beating Mundine.Whats kind of impact will a few more kgs have on the rematch - not much

Yeah, if anything Green will be slower this time.

Dick-Sucker
10-30-2007, 11:06 PM
Yeah, if anything Green will be slower this time.

Im not to sure. You guys seem to think it would be a backward step. But if Mundine disposes of Danny and wins the WBA light heavyweight title, he has some solid claims for some big pay days in the states. Having two world titles in two divisions, could back up his marketing talk and deliver him some massive dosh. After beating Green a single win over a big name would put him top 20 pound for pound.

But if not Green. Who else is he going to fight? And could you honestly see it happening?

brently1979
10-30-2007, 11:12 PM
Im not to sure. You guys seem to think it would be a backward step. But if Mundine disposes of Danny and wins the WBA light heavyweight title, he has some solid claims for some big pay days in the states. Having two world titles in two divisions, could back up his marketing talk and deliver him some massive dosh. After beating Green a single win over a big name would put him top 20 pound for pound.

But if not Green. Who else is he going to fight? And could you honestly see it happening?

Ult you better start laying off the Crack smoking, dude. Sure by the time this fight with Green happens mundine will be 33 and beating Green will not do anything for his legacy, beating a guy he beat convincingly the first time. What happened to fighting at Middleweight? If only Mundine believed his own bull****, he'd be already fighting in the states and if he had half a brain he should have been trying to get on the undercard of the Kessler vs Joe fight.

woftam
10-31-2007, 12:15 AM
Ult you better start laying off the Crack smoking, dude. Sure by the time this fight with Green happens mundine will be 33 and beating Green will not do anything for his legacy, beating a guy he beat convincingly the first time. What happened to fighting at Middleweight? If only Mundine believed his own bull****, he'd be already fighting in the states and if he had half a brain he should have been trying to get on the undercard of the Kessler vs Joe fight.

Lol extremely well put.
Mundine needs to get on a plane and get over to the states.
Their is no one in Australia he can fight that is going to further his career.
A Green vs Mundine 2 will not generate any where near the interest they got in the first fight. Anthony needs to look for challenges not easy pay days.

Dick-Sucker
10-31-2007, 12:49 AM
Ult you better start laying off the Crack smoking, dude. Sure by the time this fight with Green happens mundine will be 33 and beating Green will not do anything for his legacy, beating a guy he beat convincingly the first time. What happened to fighting at Middleweight? If only Mundine believed his own bull****, he'd be already fighting in the states and if he had half a brain he should have been trying to get on the undercard of the Kessler vs Joe fight.

Your probably right mate. I get sucked in by the two titles in two weight divsions part of it. He should be in the states by now. Lets hope he is on the 3.40 flight out of Sydney as we speak. But i just see Kessler as to dangerous. Because Mundine only has 1 more loss could spell the end of him. ??

newforce
10-31-2007, 02:52 AM
To be honest,I think Mundine doesn't have the courage and belief in himself that he is as good as he states he is.

If he did, we would have seen him fighting in the US by now, or asking for the big names.

brently1979
10-31-2007, 03:17 AM
To be honest,I think Mundine doesn't have the courage and belief in himself that he is as good as he states he is.

If he did, we would have seen him fighting in the US by now, or asking for the big names.

Yeah this is a pretty accurate statement. He likes to play the big fish over here, but in actually fact I think he doesn't believe in himself deep down other wise he would have been on US TV by now. Why would he turn down a contract with Don King. I know KING is a crook, but a lot fighters a very happy with him promoting them, because he can get them the fights they want.

Dick-Sucker
10-31-2007, 03:57 AM
Yeah this is a pretty accurate statement. He likes to play the big fish over here, but in actually fact I think he doesn't believe in himself deep down other wise he would have been on US TV by now. Why would he turn down a contract with Don King. I know KING is a crook, but a lot fighters a very happy with him promoting them, because he can get them the fights they want.

Hmm as a Mundine fan. Im not to sure he can take on the Americans. Do you think he could beat Pavlik or Taylor at middleweight? Because thats all he would be able to get over there. And its a big risk. ?

woftam
10-31-2007, 04:48 AM
Hmm as a Mundine fan. Im not to sure he can take on the Americans. Do you think he could beat Pavlik or Taylor at middleweight? Because thats all he would be able to get over there. And its a big risk. ?

Big risk it is, but he needs to test himself against the big guns and find out how good he is. He has very good defence and that's going to stand him in good stead in most contests. Roll the dice Anthony and see what happens.

brently1979
10-31-2007, 05:31 AM
Hmm as a Mundine fan. Im not to sure he can take on the Americans. Do you think he could beat Pavlik or Taylor at middleweight? Because thats all he would be able to get over there. And its a big risk. ?

No way. Those guys are elite and will have not problems bring the fight to Mundine.

KoolWillie
10-31-2007, 05:50 AM
I can see mundine beating winky or maybe taylor but not pavlik

Dick-Sucker
10-31-2007, 06:33 AM
I can see mundine beating winky or maybe taylor but not pavlik

Its interesting. If Mundine goes to the states. he is one fight away from stardom and P4P rankings with a massive win. If he loses, he is limited to being a domestic fighter. Like it has been said he has to role the dice.

I differ. I think he would have trouble against Taylor. I think his speed would be way to much for Pavlik, and also Mundines defence has got really good, i could see him sniffing out a UD there. Winky is over it. But they are really dangerous fights. Could he win them? More opinions would be great!

But KoolWillie i think we can agree without sounding like nuthuggers. If he puts it all together, he could easily win against massive names.

KoolWillie
10-31-2007, 07:08 AM
yeah no doubt he has been impressive in his last few fights, a completely different fighter too what he was when he last fought kessler

brently1979
10-31-2007, 07:58 AM
Sure, I don't doubt Anthony's skills, I just question his heart by not willing to fight in the states.

brently1979
10-31-2007, 07:59 AM
Its interesting. If Mundine goes to the states. he is one fight away from stardom and P4P rankings with a massive win. If he loses, he is limited to being a domestic fighter. Like it has been said he has to role the dice.

I differ. I think he would have trouble against Taylor. I think his speed would be way to much for Pavlik, and also Mundines defence has got really good, i could see him sniffing out a UD there. Winky is over it. But they are really dangerous fights. Could he win them? More opinions would be great!

But KoolWillie i think we can agree without sounding like nuthuggers. If he puts it all together, he could easily win against massive names.

Love it. Keep up the good work.