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magicjordan
10-26-2007, 11:37 AM
Anong Balita?Sang ayon ba kayo sa pagpapalaya kay erap? oo o hindi?

xzworks
10-26-2007, 11:42 AM
pagkakaalam ko guilty yung hatol sa kanya di ba..at kakahatol lang..napardon agad LOL!!!!!!! ikulong yan!

Bogler
10-26-2007, 12:01 PM
heto opinyon ko lang. tingin ko talagang hindi dapat guilty ang hatol kay erap pero pag inacquit nila eh maquequestion ang presidency ni gma. so guilty ang verdict at pinardon na lang sya after para nagmukhang mabait pa lalo si gma. hehe..

Daredevil69
10-26-2007, 12:26 PM
Hindi ako sang ayon, this could lead to loss of trust of Filipinos to the Justice system of the country, napaka inconsistent nila, porke mayaman si erap at naging presidente ng Pilipinas na pardon agad, proven guilty naman siya. Marami nga diyang mahihirap na nakakulong na inosente na hindi napalaya e.

kasangga
10-26-2007, 01:02 PM
Kung si Erap na ang kinurakot ay hindi lang isang milyon kundi mahigit na apat na bilyong piso ay pinalaya kaagad na hindi man lang pinatikim ng isang araw sa Munti, dapat ay palayain na rin ang lahat ng bilanggo na mas maliit pang halaga ang ninakaw o pininsala.

Nasaan ang katarungan na dapat ay pantay-pantay para sa lahat nang mamamayan?

Sa nangyaring ito ay lumalabas na pera-pera lang talaga ang nangungusap sa ating lipunan.

xzworks
10-26-2007, 01:06 PM
ikulong yan!!!..kung papalayain yan.. dapat iassasinate agad yan pagkatapos ng isang linggo.. heheeh..

Papa Ace
10-26-2007, 01:33 PM
Erap will eventually be a free man, the government already stated they are granting pardon. Nakasulat na yan.

However, what you are missing at is the timing. Even the lawyers and Erap himself were caught by surprise. Actually it would have been more fitting had GMA waited till Christmas so that it could be construed as a peace offering and in the spirit of the season and forgiveness. But no, it was granted immediately around 5pm yesterday. Why?

Because JDV III had already implicated GMA in the ZTE deal yesterday afternoon. He told the Senate that GMA knew about it and the ones really controlling the deal together with Mike Arroyo. He can no longer hide that fact since a serious death threat has been given to him, and he was informed that a hired killer was released in prison specifically tasked to kill him and his family, including the Speaker. He also stated that GMA berated Speaker De Venecia in a secret meeting. Now this could have been a major news that could have triggered another EDSA but Malacanang quickly made a remedy and issued the pardon just before office hours end.. just in time for the evening news that would cushion the impact on the revelations of the Senate hearings. Its very suspicious that they have to order it very late in the day when they can afford till the next day at least.

Im beginning to think GMA is losing her grip on this one, if she turns her back on De Venecia she'll pay the price. JDV survived Cory, Ramos, Erap and GMA.

Daredevil69
10-26-2007, 02:18 PM
Erap will eventually be a free man, the government already stated they are granting pardon. Nakasulat na yan.

However, what you are missing at is the timing. Even the lawyers and Erap himself were caught by surprise. Actually it would have been more fitting had GMA waited till Christmas so that it could be construed as a peace offering and in the spirit of the season and forgiveness. But no, it was granted immediately around 5pm yesterday. Why?

Because JDV III had already implicated GMA in the ZTE deal yesterday afternoon. He told the Senate that GMA knew about it and the ones really controlling the deal together with Mike Arroyo. He can no longer hide that fact since a serious death threat has been given to him, and he was informed that a hired killer was released in prison specifically tasked to kill him and his family, including the Speaker. He also stated that GMA berated Speaker De Venecia in a secret meeting. Now this could have been a major news that could have triggered another EDSA but Malacanang quickly made a remedy and issued the pardon just before office hours end.. just in time for the evening news that would cushion the impact on the revelations of the Senate hearings. Its very suspicious that they have to order it very late in the day when they can afford till the next day at least.

Im beginning to think GMA is losing her grip on this one, if she turns her back on De Venecia she'll pay the price. JDV survived Cory, Ramos, Erap and GMA.
Do you mean GMA did that in order to divert the public's attention to Erap's pardon rather than her ZTE's involvement?
Erap (bobong kurakot)
GMA (matalinong kurakot)
common denominator : kurakot

AIR_KENG
10-26-2007, 03:55 PM
Erap will eventually be a free man, the government already stated they are granting pardon. Nakasulat na yan.

However, what you are missing at is the timing. Even the lawyers and Erap himself were caught by surprise. Actually it would have been more fitting had GMA waited till Christmas so that it could be construed as a peace offering and in the spirit of the season and forgiveness. But no, it was granted immediately around 5pm yesterday. Why?

Because JDV III had already implicated GMA in the ZTE deal yesterday afternoon. He told the Senate that GMA knew about it and the ones really controlling the deal together with Mike Arroyo. He can no longer hide that fact since a serious death threat has been given to him, and he was informed that a hired killer was released in prison specifically tasked to kill him and his family, including the Speaker. He also stated that GMA berated Speaker De Venecia in a secret meeting. Now this could have been a major news that could have triggered another EDSA but Malacanang quickly made a remedy and issued the pardon just before office hours end.. just in time for the evening news that would cushion the impact on the revelations of the Senate hearings. Its very suspicious that they have to order it very late in the day when they can afford till the next day at least.

Im beginning to think GMA is losing her grip on this one, if she turns her back on De Venecia she'll pay the price. JDV survived Cory, Ramos, Erap and GMA.
things people do to stay in power... nung balita pa lang na iga-grant ng pardon si erap i was like WTF? pina ikot ikot pa nila yung kwento, pinilit pilit pang maglabas ang sandigan bayan ng verdict after 6 long years of unfruitful legal battles, tapos 1 sorry lang full pardon agad??? Bobo man ang tingin ko kay Erap, sang ayon ako sa kanya na walang kwenta ang judicial and executive branch natin... They are all puppets... Bad trip... Bad trip...

the undertaker
10-26-2007, 07:42 PM
Kung si Erap na ang kinurakot ay hindi lang isang milyon kundi mahigit na apat na bilyong piso ay pinalaya kaagad na hindi man lang pinatikim ng isang araw sa Munti, dapat ay palayain na rin ang lahat ng bilanggo na mas maliit pang halaga ang ninakaw o pininsala.

Nasaan ang katarungan na dapat ay pantay-pantay para sa lahat nang mamamayan?

Sa nangyaring ito ay lumalabas na pera-pera lang talaga ang nangungusap sa ating lipunan.

di dapat palayain........dapat sa kulungan din......dapat sana gawin yung SOUTH KOREAN style ng pagkulong sa mga politiko na kurakot.......

rpogi
10-26-2007, 11:48 PM
Erap will eventually be a free man, the government already stated they are granting pardon. Nakasulat na yan.

However, what you are missing at is the timing. Even the lawyers and Erap himself were caught by surprise. Actually it would have been more fitting had GMA waited till Christmas so that it could be construed as a peace offering and in the spirit of the season and forgiveness. But no, it was granted immediately around 5pm yesterday. Why?

Because JDV III had already implicated GMA in the ZTE deal yesterday afternoon. He told the Senate that GMA knew about it and the ones really controlling the deal together with Mike Arroyo. He can no longer hide that fact since a serious death threat has been given to him, and he was informed that a hired killer was released in prison specifically tasked to kill him and his family, including the Speaker. He also stated that GMA berated Speaker De Venecia in a secret meeting. Now this could have been a major news that could have triggered another EDSA but Malacanang quickly made a remedy and issued the pardon just before office hours end.. just in time for the evening news that would cushion the impact on the revelations of the Senate hearings. Its very suspicious that they have to order it very late in the day when they can afford till the next day at least.

Im beginning to think GMA is losing her grip on this one, if she turns her back on De Venecia she'll pay the price. JDV survived Cory, Ramos, Erap and GMA.

there is more than to this story PAPA ACE. Its all politics. JDV and FVR started all
this ZTE with the hope that people will go to the street and ask GMA to resign and then with the help of some disgruntled military officer they will oust GMA and set up a parliamentary form of Govt with either JDV or FVR heading it, but Puno beat them to the draw and persuaded GMA to give ERAP pardon and ERAP in return accept it and cooperate with GMA eventually, cause if the two will not work together JDV and FVR will have a chance to oust GMA. ERAP will languish in tanay until we dont know when. Hence the reason for the rush of ERAP Pardon. This would make JDV and FVR rethink their next move. GMA ERAP tandem is a formidable partnership. (BRAINS and GOOD MASA CHARISMA)

I would rather have a status quo in present set up of government than seeing JDV or FVR heading a parliamentary form of Govt. CORRUPT din yang dalawa na yan worst than GMA and ERAP.

*AKO PA HA!
10-27-2007, 08:51 AM
ibalik si macoy....buhayin si apo lakay.lol!

guardian
10-27-2007, 09:42 AM
Ndi din ako pabor sa biglaang pagpapalaya sa kanya, tagal ng hearing at laki ng gastos tapos biglaan ang pardon... pero kung eto naman ang daan para "MEJO" gumanda ang takbo ng bansa... then why not diba??? hehehe opinyon ko lang po yan

Katz
10-28-2007, 08:12 AM
wrong timing ang pardon ni Erap...

kasangga
10-28-2007, 10:49 AM
wrong timing ang pardon ni Erap...
Wrong timing, and simply WRONG!!!

GMA just made it known to the whole world that in the Philippines,
there is still some honor . . . . .

AMONG THIEVES !!!

Papa Ace
10-28-2007, 11:16 AM
Do you mean GMA did that in order to divert the public's attention to Erap's pardon rather than her ZTE's involvement?
Erap (bobong kurakot)
GMA (matalinong kurakot)
common denominator : kurakot

i dont see any other person who would benefit from erap's sudden release.

there is more than to this story PAPA ACE. Its all politics. JDV and FVR started all
this ZTE with the hope that people will go to the street and ask GMA to resign and then with the help of some disgruntled military officer they will oust GMA and set up a parliamentary form of Govt with either JDV or FVR heading it, but Puno beat them to the draw and persuaded GMA to give ERAP pardon and ERAP in return accept it and cooperate with GMA eventually, cause if the two will not work together JDV and FVR will have a chance to oust GMA. ERAP will languish in tanay until we dont know when. Hence the reason for the rush of ERAP Pardon. This would make JDV and FVR rethink their next move. GMA ERAP tandem is a formidable partnership. (BRAINS and GOOD MASA CHARISMA)

I would rather have a status quo in present set up of government than seeing JDV or FVR heading a parliamentary form of Govt. CORRUPT din yang dalawa na yan worst than GMA and ERAP.

GMA-Erap Vs. FVR-JDV-Singson :D

JOM'S
10-28-2007, 12:03 PM
mas madaling palayain si erap kesa maikulong lahat ng corrupt na politiko sa pilipinas...

kaya okey na yan ...lol

noypi2
10-28-2007, 12:37 PM
heto opinyon ko lang. tingin ko talagang hindi dapat guilty ang hatol kay erap pero pag inacquit nila eh maquequestion ang presidency ni gma. so guilty ang verdict at pinardon na lang sya after para nagmukhang mabait pa lalo si gma. hehe..

Sa tingin ko yan talaga ang plano, kaso ang kapalit ng pag bango ng pangalan GMA is yung lalong pagkasira ng Justice system natin.

xzworks
10-28-2007, 02:15 PM
Wrong timing, and simply WRONG!!!

GMA just made it known to the whole world that in the Philippines,
there is still some honor . . . . .

AMONG THIEVES !!!

great point..

kapul na kapul ang pilipinas.. sino na lang pilipino/investors ang magtitiwala sa hustisya ng pinas..

SLIMZ
10-28-2007, 02:32 PM
i was the only one who voted OO ata...

*AKO PA HA!
10-28-2007, 02:57 PM
i was the only one who voted OO ata...
sama ako sa iyo ate.lol!

PrtyBoyDlicious
10-28-2007, 03:03 PM
Si Erap laya na? Patay si Sabit "Sing-A-long" SingSong! Hahantingin na yan ni Erap....HAHAHA..hinde na yan makaka-Sabit ke Pacman....

isa lang masasabi ko sa pagpapalaya ke Erap, "Masyado ng ginagawang TANGA ang mga nagtatanga-tangahang mga Pilipino"...kelan kaya magigising ang mga tanga at nagtatanga-tangahang Pilipino at mag-aklas laban sa mapag-tangang, kurakot at mandarayang administrasyon ni Tyanak?

Daredevil69
10-28-2007, 08:46 PM
Partially out of topic:

Guys I've been trying to analyze for so long, in your own opinion, if papalitan si GMA, sino kaya ang mas magiging effective na presidente ng Pilipinas?
Just FYI: She attended Assumption Convent for her elementary and high school education, graduating valedictorian in 1964. Arroyo then studied for two years at Georgetown University's Walsh School of Foreign Service in Washington, D.C. where she was a classmate of future United States President Bill Clinton and achieved consistent Dean's list status.[6] She then earned her Bachelor of Arts degree in Economics from Assumption College, graduating magna cum laude in 1968.
IMO kasi GMA is doing well in terms of our country's economy kaya unti-unting bumabangon na ang Pilipinas, tumataas ang piso, more job opportunities and maganda ang rapport niya with other countries' leaders kaya dumadami ang foreign investors sa bansa.
Sa tingin ko mas mabuting manatili muna si GMA sa kanyang pwesto para matapos niya ang kanyang sinimulan.
Siguro nga meron din siyang mga mali, pero sa tingin ko ay mas marami naman siyang ginawa na mabuti para sa unti-unting pag-unlad ng bansa IMHO.

P.S. hindi ako relative ni GMA :banana:

Papa Ace
10-28-2007, 09:19 PM
Partially out of topic:

Guys I've been trying to analyze for so long, in your own opinion, if papalitan si GMA, sino kaya ang mas magiging effective na presidente ng Pilipinas?
Just FYI: She attended Assumption Convent for her elementary and high school education, graduating valedictorian in 1964. Arroyo then studied for two years at Georgetown University's Walsh School of Foreign Service in Washington, D.C. where she was a classmate of future United States President Bill Clinton and achieved consistent Dean's list status.[6] She then earned her Bachelor of Arts degree in Economics from Assumption College, graduating magna cum laude in 1968.
IMO kasi GMA is doing well in terms of our country's economy kaya unti-unting bumabangon na ang Pilipinas, tumataas ang piso, more job opportunities and maganda ang rapport niya with other countries' leaders kaya dumadami ang foreign investors sa bansa.
Sa tingin ko mas mabuting manatili muna si GMA sa kanyang pwesto para matapos niya ang kanyang sinimulan.
Siguro nga meron din siyang mga mali, pero sa tingin ko ay mas marami naman siyang ginawa na mabuti para sa unti-unting pag-unlad ng bansa IMHO.

P.S. hindi ako relative ni GMA


actually yes, she has sound background in terms of economic expertise, however, part of the reason why our economy is rising is because of several factors like the record influx of dollars by OFWs. The call center industry's contribution to our prospertiy is due to the talent of the Filipinos. Nothing to take away from GMA but she is not directly responsible to this. whats good in her is that she knows how to manage this. In a way she could be of use to the government but the main question is is she fit to manage the whole country. I sincerely think she does, however she has to get rid of her advisers and the main person that's pulling her down, which ironically is her husband.

sniper_1277
10-28-2007, 09:27 PM
Partially out of topic:

Guys I've been trying to analyze for so long, in your own opinion, if papalitan si GMA, sino kaya ang mas magiging effective na presidente ng Pilipinas?
Just FYI: She attended Assumption Convent for her elementary and high school education, graduating valedictorian in 1964. Arroyo then studied for two years at Georgetown University's Walsh School of Foreign Service in Washington, D.C. where she was a classmate of future United States President Bill Clinton and achieved consistent Dean's list status.[6] She then earned her Bachelor of Arts degree in Economics from Assumption College, graduating magna cum laude in 1968.
IMO kasi GMA is doing well in terms of our country's economy kaya unti-unting bumabangon na ang Pilipinas, tumataas ang piso, more job opportunities and maganda ang rapport niya with other countries' leaders kaya dumadami ang foreign investors sa bansa.
Sa tingin ko mas mabuting manatili muna si GMA sa kanyang pwesto para matapos niya ang kanyang sinimulan.
Siguro nga meron din siyang mga mali, pero sa tingin ko ay mas marami naman siyang ginawa na mabuti para sa unti-unting pag-unlad ng bansa IMHO.

P.S. hindi ako relative ni GMA :banana:


Im just wondering... You mention that our economy is getting better and that our peso is increasing its value against the dollar. kung talagang lumalakas ang piso bakit kabikabila ang pagtaas ng mga bilihin lalong lalo na ang petrolyo? ano ba dapat ang batayan para masabi natin na ang ekonomya ng mahal nating bansa eh gumaganda? kung tutuusin lalong tumataas ang cost of leaving pero kabaligtaran naman ito ng ating kinikita at mas lalong dumarami ang mga kababayan natin na hikahos sa kanilang pamumuhay. sa tingin ko lang mas marami po syang nagawang kapalpakan kaysa nagawang mabuti.

ang problema kasi sa mga lider natin at tayong mga mamayan, masyado tayong nagdedepende sa mga foreign investors kaya kung wala na sila, bagsak na rin ang ating ekonomya. nakakahiya man, nag aalburoto tayu noong mga panahon sakop tayo ng ibang bansa at noong panahon na nandito ang base militar ng estados unidos, sinisigaw natin sa kalsada, gusto natin ng kalayaan, gusto nating tumayo sa sarili nating mga paa, eto ngayon ang katotohanan, d pala natin kayang tumayo kasi kailangan pa natin ang mga foreign investor para lang magbigay ng trabaho nga mga mamayan natin. ang iba naman dumarayo pa sa ibang bansa para lang mabuhay at kumita. kung sakali lang na naging isa tayo sa mga estado ng estados unidos, ano na kaya ang bansa natin?

In relation to the topic, nanjan na yan pinalaya na, the best thing we can do is to move on, mas maraming mga bagay jan ang pwede nating gawin kaysa ngawa tayo ng ngawa na kung saan eh sa mga binging tainga lang ang bagsak. mas mainam siguro na magkaisa tayo na mag isip kung paano tayo makakalaya sa mga foreign investors. matuto naman sana tayo tumayo sa mga sarili nating mga paa at hwag iasa ang ating ekonomya sa iba para sa bandang huli d na natin kailangan pang maghabol kung ayaw na nila dito sa atin.

Ating isabuhay ang kanta ni bamboo

"HOY! PINOY AKO, BUO ANG AKING LOOB MAY AGIMAT ANG DUGO KO!"

hehe

MR. SMILEY
10-28-2007, 09:32 PM
IMO! maganda pa iyong panahon ni Marcos.mas maganda ang ekonomiya natin.kokonti lang ang kurakot.lol

rpogi
10-28-2007, 10:55 PM
Im just wondering... You mention that our economy is getting better and that our peso is increasing its value against the dollar. kung talagang lumalakas ang piso bakit kabikabila ang pagtaas ng mga bilihin lalong lalo na ang petrolyo? ano ba dapat ang batayan para masabi natin na ang ekonomya ng mahal nating bansa eh gumaganda? kung tutuusin lalong tumataas ang cost of leaving pero kabaligtaran naman ito ng ating kinikita at mas lalong dumarami ang mga kababayan natin na hikahos sa kanilang pamumuhay. sa tingin ko lang mas marami po syang nagawang kapalpakan kaysa nagawang mabuti.

ang problema kasi sa mga lider natin at tayong mga mamayan, masyado tayong nagdedepende sa mga foreign investors kaya kung wala na sila, bagsak na rin ang ating ekonomya. nakakahiya man, nag aalburoto tayu noong mga panahon sakop tayo ng ibang bansa at noong panahon na nandito ang base militar ng estados unidos, sinisigaw natin sa kalsada, gusto natin ng kalayaan, gusto nating tumayo sa sarili nating mga paa, eto ngayon ang katotohanan, d pala natin kayang tumayo kasi kailangan pa natin ang mga foreign investor para lang magbigay ng trabaho nga mga mamayan natin. ang iba naman dumarayo pa sa ibang bansa para lang mabuhay at kumita. kung sakali lang na naging isa tayo sa mga estado ng estados unidos, ano na kaya ang bansa natin?

In relation to the topic, nanjan na yan pinalaya na, the best thing we can do is to move on, mas maraming mga bagay jan ang pwede nating gawin kaysa ngawa tayo ng ngawa na kung saan eh sa mga binging tainga lang ang bagsak. mas mainam siguro na magkaisa tayo na mag isip kung paano tayo makakalaya sa mga foreign investors. matuto naman sana tayo tumayo sa mga sarili nating mga paa at hwag iasa ang ating ekonomya sa iba para sa bandang huli d na natin kailangan pang maghabol kung ayaw na nila dito sa atin.

Ating isabuhay ang kanta ni bamboo

"HOY! PINOY AKO, BUO ANG AKING LOOB MAY AGIMAT ANG DUGO KO!"

hehe

In relation to a Stronger economy and Peso it was already discussed in detail in one of the thread here "RESIGNATION LETTTER OF GMA". With your question of the surging Oil prices, it is way beyond the control of the present administration why it is going up. Prices of oil is dictated in world market, we have to be thankful the peso is strong(doing at 44 compared to 57 2 years ago) if not domestic oil prices might be at 60 to 70 pesos level.

Foreign investors. Every asian country for that matter needs foreign investor to keep their economy moving forward. we cannot afford to isolate us from the rest of the world because of globalization. It just would not make sense. China is growing because they open up to foreign investments, this is same with the rest of the asian region. Even europe and US needs foreign investments.

JOM'S
10-29-2007, 02:49 AM
mga tol hindi piso ang tumataas kundi dollar ang bumababa sa world market...

kung lumalakas talaga ang piso ... bakit hindi nagbabago in relation to other major currecies tulad ng euro, pounds??

JOM'S
10-29-2007, 02:55 AM
at sa totoo lang kaya malakas din ang peso vs the dollar dahil sa mga remittances ng mga milyon milyon OFWs na nagpapaalila sa mga banyaga para mairaos ang mga pamilya sa pilipinas...

Daredevil69
10-29-2007, 11:38 AM
I also get your point guys, pero our country is in worse state than it is when GMA started her term. If you can remember I think umabot ng P50 ang exchange rate ng dollar which means mas malaki ang binabayaran nating utang dahil we pay it with that kind of currency. Nagsisimula pa lang tayo so we may not feel the immediate impact of this yet.
Pero try to think of it what if hindi si GMA ang nalagay sa pwesto? What if it's the like of Cory, FVR or Erap? Don't you think our country would be worse?

PS - hindi ako pilitiko or economista. just my two cents. :banana:

Papa Ace
10-29-2007, 11:54 AM
While it is true that we could have been worse if Erap would still be President, the GMA administration have not really made us progess. meaning, mahirap is stil mahirap at ang mga mayaman lalong yumayaman. While there were many millionaires now compared to some 5 years ago, the inflation has been steadily growing up hence the value of the peso continues to downgrade. The economic success that the governemnt is trumpeting cannot be felt by an ordinary citizen.

rpogi
10-29-2007, 12:46 PM
While it is true that we could have been worse if Erap would still be President, the GMA administration have not really made us progess. meaning, mahirap is stil mahirap at ang mga mayaman lalong yumayaman. While there were many millionaires now compared to some 5 years ago, the inflation has been steadily growing up hence the value of the peso continues to downgrade. The economic success that the governemnt is trumpeting cannot be felt by an ordinary citizen.


bro, inflation has been going down for the last two years, from 5 to 6 percent last year down to 2.6 to 3 first half of this year. We really cant deny that our economy is better compared to 5 years ago. Peso is appreciating because of confluence of different factors, weak dollar, ofw remittances, foreign direct investments, strong stockmarket, strong growth from mining sectors and business process outsourcing, moderate growth from infra and services etc. But current growth will not trickle down to the poor if we can not sustain the current growth of our economy above 6.5 percent.

Next question is what will stop our economy from sustaining growth at current levels and the TRICKLE DOWN effect not being felt by the masa?

DESTRUCTIVE POLITICS IS THE ANSWER.

This is what is currently happening to our country right now. We may not like GMA, but we can not also afford another edsa 3 4 etc.. from happening again. It will just be a vicious cycle all over again asking our leader to resign in case contraversies are not resolve in the proper forum. I guarantee you, if we succeed forcing GMA to resign, who or what will stop us doing it again once we are not satisfied with who will replaced her. Another people power? Resign Petition?

2010 is just around the corner, it will be better for all of us to trust the system and hope that 2010 onwards will be better for all us, Economics or Politics. Just my opinion though and hope i am right.

Peace to all of us.

kasangga
10-29-2007, 01:04 PM
Mga katoto:

Puwede ba maki-sali sa usapan? Sa palagay ko ay isa na ako sa mga labis na nadismaya sa pagpapalaya ni Gloria kay Erap. Nabale-wala ang anim na taong pinaghirapan ng Sandiganbayan para mabigyan ng katarungan ang sambayanang Pilipino na biniktima ni Erap. What she did was a shameful mockery of our justice system, but what can we do? The Constitution gave her and any other President the prerogative to grant a presidential pardon to any convicted criminal. We just have to live with it and if Gloria can be found guilty of any crime, let her also undergo the judicial process after her term and let her be thrown in jail.

Subalit sa kabila ng mga kapalpakan ng kanyang administrasyon, hindi natin maitatanggi na malaki ang nagawa ni PGMA sa ikauunlad ng ating ekonomiya. Her determination to push through with unpopular but necessary measures such as the E-Vat Law was instrumental in boosting investor confidence. Sobra lang lugmok ang kalagayan ng Pilipinas nang siya ang pumalit kayat kahit si Superman siguro ang umupong Presidente ay mahihirapan talaga ibangon ang ating bansa. Sa mga hindi pa nakakaramdam ng pag-asenso, ito ay dahilan sa hindi naman talaga agad-agad ito nararamdaman, lalo na ng mga mahihirap. Ang pagkakaroon ng mga dagdag na trabaho at pagkakakitaan ay makakatulong lamang doon sa mga gustong magtrabaho, syempre.

Ang paglakas naman ng piso, bukod sa nakakabuti sa ekonomiya ay hindi ikinatutuwa ng iba. May masamang epekto syempre ito sa mga OFW at mga exporters ng local products. Hindi natin maiiwasan iyan at hindi lahat ay masisiyahan. Ang huling balita ay gumagawa ang gobyerno ng paraan kung paano mababawasan ang bank charges na sinisingil sa mga remittances ng OFWs. That may be just a small consolation but it is all that the government can do for the moment.

Ano ang puwede nating gawin sa kasalukuyan? Sa aking palagay, at ito ay sa akin lang naman. Ang puwede nating gawin ay suportahan ang administrasyong ito kahit na nasusuka tayo. Bakit kamo? Ito ay upang mabigyan ng pagkakataon na maramdaman natin ang kahit na katiting na pag-asenso ng kabuhayan sa Pilipinas. Mas makakasama kasi kung guguluhin natin ang bumubuting takbo sa kasalukuyan.

The year 2010 s not too far off. Let's vote for a better President, and if Gloria is guilty of any of the things that she is being accused of, let's feed her to the dogs.

JOM'S
10-29-2007, 02:19 PM
mga tol ako naman wala kong pakiaalam kung sino namumuno, yung tanong na kung hindi si gloria ... sino? ako walang maisip kaya antayin ko na lang elektion...

from marcos to gloria sino lang PRESIDENTE hindi nabahiran ng corruption or doubt of corruption ?? correct me guys kung mali ako si cory lang yata hindi na iskandalo sa corruption...

@ bro kasangga tama ka masama epekto saming mga OFW yung pagtaas ng piso at pagbaba ng dollar... pero mostly yung dollar earners lang yung masyadong mabigat ang epekto yung mga kumikita ng euros or pounds, palagay ko hindi masyadong apektado ...

Papa Ace
10-29-2007, 02:27 PM
@rpogi what i meant pala bro is that we continue to have inflation, though it is on a downward trend, we continue to experience it.

tama ka thats its the politics that are killing us. However, Ive been to many places in the Philippines but while people complain on the government, many are themselves corrupt in their own ways like making kotong, just recently the baranggay elections showed different kinds of cheating. Its really ironic.

Chups
10-29-2007, 02:33 PM
Tungkol sa pag-papapardon...all I can say is nakaka-dismaya nga. Hindi man-lang pina-amin muna. Kung hindi aamin eh di walang pardon. Kung aamin eh di pardonin at imbestigahin kung papaano hindi na maulit or mabawasan ang pandarambong nang mataas na opisyal.

SLIMZ
10-29-2007, 02:54 PM
sama ako sa iyo ate.lol!

oo nga, marami na rin tayo...

for me kasi, i'm not pro-erap, nor a pro-gma either. it's just that he's old, he's already jailed since the trial began, and he's not an ordinary person, he's the previous president.

i'm not saying we should give him a special treatment, but i'm speaking of the presidency itself as a whole, not a particular person but the institution.

Itlog
10-29-2007, 03:33 PM
mga tol ako naman wala kong pakiaalam kung sino namumuno, yung tanong na kung hindi si gloria ... sino? ako walang maisip kaya antayin ko na lang elektion...

from marcos to gloria sino lang PRESIDENTE hindi nabahiran ng corruption or doubt of corruption ?? correct me guys kung mali ako si cory lang yata hindi na iskandalo sa corruption...

@ bro kasangga tama ka masama epekto saming mga OFW yung pagtaas ng piso at pagbaba ng dollar... pero mostly yung dollar earners lang yung masyadong mabigat ang epekto yung mga kumikita ng euros or pounds, palagay ko hindi masyadong apektado ...

not corruption...... she had Kris........ lol.

Daredevil69
10-29-2007, 03:52 PM
not corruption...... she had Kris........ lol.
What do you mean, Kris made bigger scandal than her corruption?
Hahaha just kidding... :banana:

msagrain
10-29-2007, 04:49 PM
dont mean to be a pest but can some translate what the polls on? :)

kasangga
10-29-2007, 08:38 PM
dont mean to be a pest but can some translate what the polls on? :)
Hey Bro, these are merely political happenings in the Philippines which will just bore you to death.

Best for us to discuss boxing issues.

Itlog
10-29-2007, 11:17 PM
dont mean to be a pest but can some translate what the polls on? :)
You're always welcome here msa.... it's about a former president being pardoned out of his jail term... whether we agree on it or not. kasangga is right, it's politics and it will bore you to death if you can't relate.

the undertaker
10-30-2007, 12:20 AM
What do you mean, Kris made bigger scandal than her corruption?
Hahaha just kidding... :banana:

YEAH..KRIS MADE THE AQUINO NAME MORE FAMOUS...THATīS WHY NOYNOY WON THE ELECTIONS...AND IPE, JOEY MARQUEZ, AND JAMES YAP HELPED HER DO THAT...WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

PS..ALSO MISS HOPE CENTENO....HEHEHEHEHE..VIKI BELO TO..WAAAAAAA..
i just used my imagination..hehehehe..

JOM'S
10-30-2007, 02:49 AM
not corruption...... she had Kris........ lol.

What do you mean, Kris made bigger scandal than her corruption?
Hahaha just kidding... :banana:

he he sasabihin ko sana na namroblema si cory dahil sa mga coup d etat kaya hindi nakadiskarte, pero nalimutan ko rin na mas malaking problema pala ni cory si kris kesa sa mga coup ... lol