let me put it like this. i should do what james carrey did and write myself a million dollar check and cash it someday. i'm probably delusional, but i think i'm going places in boxing. especially in the dreadful heavyweight division. even if there were a lot of skilled guys i think i'd still go far. i think to myself that i'm going to be rich and all the women and respect that i'll have. and then i realize that it's so far into the future that i shouldn't even think about it.

I've recently moved up to the light heavy weight division and will be fighting in that weight class on NOV. 3rd 4th ... 4th is a belt shot that i got "ducked" out of last time by three guys...

its for the florida state Championship.


I will be doing alot in boxing... Theres no dobut about it... its just the way it has to be.


check the vid.

Where's the vid?

Making money and having sex with pretty ladies

I want to win all the alphabet titles, and then tell the organizations to **** off.

be a world champ.

well i'm a quick heavyeight in britain so i think if i turned pro i could be beating max skelton in a couple of years than the british boxing champ would be a bpoxer rather than some ugly wrestling beast.

lmao @ skelton and sprott someone end their careers PLEASE

well i'm a quick heavyeight in britain so i think if i turned pro i could be beating max skelton in a couple of years than the british boxing champ would be a bpoxer rather than some ugly wrestling beast.

haha lmao @ you.

I can see myself making it.As long as I have the right ppl and the right mind set.I dont need to totally make it to feel successful.As long as I can do a good investment with the money,then its all good.:)

Although I started late at the age of 27, my coach has told me as long as I apply myself properly I could still go professional. His words were that I have devastating power and I’m light on my feet for 250 pounds. I just want to push myself as far as I can go in the sport and eventually get into coaching.

:boxing:

Although I started late at the age of 27, my coach has told me as long as I apply myself properly I could still go professional. His words were that I have devastating power and I’m light on my feet for 250 pounds. I just want to push myself as far as I can go in the sport and eventually get into coaching.

:boxing:

anyone can go pro mate, the thing is you have to be good.

anyone can go pro mate, the thing is you have to be good.

True, but I wouldn't turn pro if I didn't think I was good enough. I wouldn't wanna be some journeyman to be beat upon by the latest up and coming star. If I get to a point where I know it won't be possible to go professional I'd go and get my ABA coaching badge.

True, but I wouldn't turn pro if I didn't think I was good enough. I wouldn't wanna be some journeyman to be beat upon by the latest up and coming star. If I get to a point where I know it won't be possible to go professional I'd go and get my ABA coaching badge.

do you just have to go on a course to get that badge?

i see myself turning pro. i see myself winning ALOT of fights. thats all i want.

do you just have to go on a course to get that badge?


As far as I know.

haha lmao @ you.

you seen skelton fight?

i'm not saying i could KO hi in one round now but i do believe if i was to turn pro (which is becoming more and more tempting) in 2-3 years i would be capable of beating him especcially seeing as he will be over 40 by that time

This is shallow, but I want a boxing trophy on my wall.

I've been boxing for just over 18 months; I've had 2 local smokers and my 3rd is coming up in 2 weeks. I hope to have my first amateur fight in spring of next year. Before I'm 40 (I'm 37 today :banana: ) I want to fight at Ringside and / or at a Golden Gloves.

I also want to compete in the World Chess Boxing Championships (http://site.wcbo.org/content/index_en.html) if they ever open it up to Master Division Fighters.

I wanna get a few amatuer fights under my belt and then I honestly want to learn how to train other fighters. I have no plans to go pro but I really enjoy the sport and thats how I would like to give back to it.

This is shallow, but I want a boxing trophy on my wall.

I've been boxing for just over 18 months; I've had 2 local smokers and my 3rd is coming up in 2 weeks. I hope to have my first amateur fight in spring of next year. Before I'm 40 (I'm 37 today :banana: ) I want to fight at Ringside and / or at a Golden Gloves.

I also want to compete in the World Chess Boxing Championships (http://site.wcbo.org/content/index_en.html) if they ever open it up to Master Division Fighters.

As far as I know, age 34 is the age limit under AIBA rules. Are Ringside and Golden Gloves outside of AIBA rules?

I've recently moved up to the light heavy weight division and will be fighting in that weight class on NOV. 3rd 4th ... 4th is a belt shot that i got "ducked" out of last time by three guys...

its for the florida state Championship.


I will be doing alot in boxing... Theres no dobut about it... its just the way it has to be.


check the vid.

Florida state ROOKIE championship? there's no way you're fighting at the open level yet...

Its The P.A.L. CHAMPIONSHIP..... So I'll be state P.A.L. champion...

(Universityboxing.com) You can see when/where/who/what/howwhy about the fight there....Its Nov. 3rd Nov 4th.

i see myself gettin back into wicked shape, slappin around AM's and making pro, the rest i dunno

i'd love to have even just one fight so my parents can come watch and so i can feel a sense of accomplishment. a trophy would be very nice as well

Its The P.A.L. CHAMPIONSHIP..... So I'll be state P.A.L. champion...

(Universityboxing.com) You can see when/where/who/what/howwhy about the fight there....Its Nov. 3rd Nov 4th.

make sure to smile a lot at weigh-ins so you don't scare off your first round opponents.

Hey guys, I'm going to tell you something I tell my students who want to go to medical school. It's COMPLETELY STUPID to become a doctor for the money, b/c it's easier to make the money than it is become a doctor. You should become a doctor if and only if, and only because you love medicine.

When I hear people talk about making $$$$ in boxing, I can barely keep from either laughing or crying. A few of you MIGHT get a few pro fights. None of you are getting rich in this. Do it for the sport. Money you could earn more by waiting tables.


Hear me, Vers and others?

Hey guys, I'm going to tell you something I tell my students who want to go to medical school. It's COMPLETELY STUPID to become a doctor for the money, b/c it's easier to make the money than it is become a doctor. You should become a doctor if and only if, and only because you love medicine.

When I hear people talk about making $$$$ in boxing, I can barely keep from either laughing or crying. A few of you MIGHT get a few pro fights. None of you are getting rich in this. Do it for the sport. Money you could earn more by waiting tables.


Hear me, Vers and others?

yeh you have to love the sport to even consider it. how many former champs are in money trouble now? how many of us can expect to become champs?

As far as I know, age 34 is the age limit under AIBA rules. Are Ringside and Golden Gloves outside of AIBA rules?

The Ringside tournament has a Masters division. The Masters division is actually quite popular. The Golden Gloves might be a problem.

As far as I know, age 34 is the age limit under AIBA rules. Are Ringside and Golden Gloves outside of AIBA rules?

USA Boxing allows fighters over the age of 35 to compete in the Master Division as long as a set of rules are followed:

- 2-minute rounds (Ringside has 90-second rounds in Master Div)
- 16 oz. gloves
- Cannot compete against anyone 10 years older or younger
- complete physical with heart workup every year with minimum HR / BP standards

Vermont, just this year, opened up GG for Master Division. Ringside also had a Master Division, both open and novice, this year. :banana: Rumor has it that Southern New England and Northern California Golden Gloves may have Master Division bouts next year.

IIRC, there is/was a Master Division someplace (state rule, I would imagine) that changed the knockout rules so that if there is a KO/TKO, the points are totaled, so as not to give an impetus to beat each other's aging brains in. That would take the fun out of it, IMO.

Lots of guys my age who don't want to take up golf, I guess. :grouphug:

I love some of these dreamers.

If you haven't accomplished anything by age 18 in boxing. You suck and wont go anywhere.

Sorry guys...............

i'm gonna stop talking about this **** and just do it.

I love some of these dreamers.

If you haven't accomplished anything by age 18 in boxing. You suck and wont go anywhere.

Sorry guys...............

Ahem. Define "anywhere."

Ahem. Define "anywhere."

I'm talking about these guys saying they are going to be world champions. Fraidy...this is real talk.

This is athletics we are talking about. You can have the drive and all the motivation in the world. Trust me, I been there and done that. You cant just put in the work at age 16 and up and expect to get there. You have to hone your skills at a young age.

Young...I'm talking like 8 here.

But if you dont got the resources and if you dont put in the work at a young age.

You sure as hell aint going to be a world titlist.

it takes a lot of luck. And a helluva lot of experience. You have to have experience at the highest level to even be a BLIMP on the radar.

my life, my dream, my decision, my opinion.

I'm talking about these guys saying they are going to be world champions. Fraidy...this is real talk.

This is athletics we are talking about. You can have the drive and all the motivation in the world. Trust me, I been there and done that. You cant just put in the work at age 16 and up and expect to get there. You have to hone your skills at a young age.

Young...I'm talking like 8 here.

But if you dont got the resources and if you dont put in the work at a young age.

You sure as hell aint going to be a world titlist.

it takes a lot of luck. And a helluva lot of experience. You have to have experience at the highest level to even be a BLIMP on the radar.

lol... you either have failed at alot in life or will in the future .... your perception of statements people make on here lead me to believe you've cheated yourself alot. I see it in my students all the time.


Like alicia keys says... EVERYTHINGS GONNA BE ALL RIGHT:grouphug:

I'm talking about these guys saying they are going to be world champions. Fraidy...this is real talk.

This is athletics we are talking about. You can have the drive and all the motivation in the world. Trust me, I been there and done that. You cant just put in the work at age 16 and up and expect to get there. You have to hone your skills at a young age.

Young...I'm talking like 8 here.

But if you dont got the resources and if you dont put in the work at a young age.

You sure as hell aint going to be a world titlist.

it takes a lot of luck. And a helluva lot of experience. You have to have experience at the highest level to even be a BLIMP on the radar.

i dont believe in these hard and fast rules if you've got a chin and some intelligence under pressure you can do boxing. obviousy starting earlier is better but your most significicant improvements come within the first 2-4 years of boxing, after this you arent likely to et much faster or stronger you can only hope to get smarter.

the human body is a its prime from 23-27

i always wanted to win the IBF belt at 160, the same belt that james toney won when he knocked out micheal nunn in the 11th round.

lol... you either have failed at alot in life or will in the future .... your perception of statements people make on here lead me to believe you've cheated yourself alot. I see it in my students all the time.


Like alicia keys says... EVERYTHINGS GONNA BE ALL RIGHT:grouphug:

Smokin's kind of right though, these boards are populated by guys who start at 18 then decide at 19 they're going to be world champs. That's selling the sport short. You wouldn't listen to a guy who just played his first pickup game say he's ready for the NBA, so why would you listen to a two-fight amateur talk about his championship ambitions?

Kids think they're going to be another RJJ, Mosley, Floyd, Oscar, etc. What do those names have in common? They all had better skills at the age of eight than anyone on this board has now!!!!!!!!!!

It's not hate to remind people of reality.

You wouldn't listen to a guy who just played his first pickup game say he's ready for the NBA, so why would you listen to a two-fight amateur talk about his championship ambitions?



Why am I reminded of Charlie and Hoskins?

Why am I reminded of Charlie and Hoskins?

They are the extreme cases, but not total diversions from the norm.

The thing is sometimes I want to ask a training question, but I don't b/c I know I'm going to get a bunch of bull**** answers. If the T&N forum didn't tolerate the future star nonsense it might become a useful forum.

I'm 31 and I only want to fight my shadow and a heavy bag. but I also don't want to hear nonsense from guys who still have fewer am fights than I had but think they are the next big thing.

Smokin's kind of right though, these boards are populated by guys who start at 18 then decide at 19 they're going to be world champs. That's selling the sport short. You wouldn't listen to a guy who just played his first pickup game say he's ready for the NBA, so why would you listen to a two-fight amateur talk about his championship ambitions?

Kids think they're going to be another RJJ, Mosley, Floyd, Oscar, etc. What do those names have in common? They all had better skills at the age of eight than anyone on this board has now!!!!!!!!!!

It's not hate to remind people of reality.


but you have to remember that their are greats who started late as hell, like marciano, george foreman, earnie shavers is a name that is mentioned on this forum a lot and he started in his 20's. it is important to hone your skills and that's what a lot of these guys are doing. mike tyson started at like 13 and went pro 5 years later. versatile has been boxing for 4 years.

alot of these guys who started young turn pro young. alot of these guys who are starting late are turning pro a little later. so this whole you have to start at a young age to be anything is overrated to me. and don't be surprised if you see some of these guys on hbo or showtime someday.

For the ones that say they're going to be world champions.They should post some sort of spar or match on here.Im pretty curious.Even I dont have the balls to say I'll be a World Champion.:lol1: A success to me in the sport would be me making 50,000 dollars in a career of boxing.If more comes along its just a bonus.

but you have to remember that their are greats who started late as hell, like marciano, george foreman, earnie shavers is a name that is mentioned on this forum a lot and he started in his 20's. it is important to hone your skills and that's what a lot of these guys are doing. mike tyson started at like 13 and went pro 5 years later. versatile has been boxing for 4 years.
alot of these guys who started young turn pro young. alot of these guys who are starting late are turning pro a little later. so this whole you have to start at a young age to be anything is overrated to me. and don't be surprised if you see some of these guys on hbo or showtime someday.

Versatile is an 0-1 amatuer. I'm not hating on him, but he's no great example.

Sure there are always going to be Ricardo Mayorgas. I wouldn't count Marciano and Foreman in that cklass though. Marciano knew how to fight, and his few amateur tournamebnts were at the national level. Foreman was an Olympian. That's not like getting in a few scraps at the neighborhood gym.

For the ones that say they're going to be world champions.They should post some sort of spar or match on here.Im pretty curious.Even I dont have the balls to say I'll be a World Champion.:lol1: A success to me in the sport would be me making 50,000 dollars in a career of boxing.If more comes along its just a bonus.

Reasonable goal for you. That's not going to be easy, you're going to have to win a lot of fights. But lots of people will accomplish that one.

For the ones that say they're going to be world champions.They should post some sort of spar or match on here.Im pretty curious.Even I dont have the balls to say I'll be a World Champion.:lol1: A success to me in the sport would be me making 50,000 dollars in a career of boxing.If more comes along its just a bonus.

why you trying to be modest
->>:cool2:

but you have to remember that their are greats who started late as hell, like marciano, george foreman, earnie shavers is a name that is mentioned on this forum a lot and he started in his 20's. it is important to hone your skills and that's what a lot of these guys are doing. mike tyson started at like 13 and went pro 5 years later. versatile has been boxing for 4 years.

alot of these guys who started young turn pro young. alot of these guys who are starting late are turning pro a little later. so this whole you have to start at a young age to be anything is overrated to me. and don't be surprised if you see some of these guys on hbo or showtime someday.

This is true.You dont have to start young,but you gotta have something that alot of other ppl dont. As for me.The only real reason Im doing boxing is because I have knockout power in both hands(As some of you guys have seen me knock someone down with a right hook,left hook and a right uppercut.Thats just the videos.Ive knocked and hurt ppl down with all sorts of different punches) If I didnt have punching power and started late.I'm not too sure I would continue.I have punching power skill.Im still working on boxing skill now.Its extremely hard and takes along time to get down if you've started late. Im suffering in certain fields because of that,me boxing for 4 year isnt ****.Its defiantly not alot of time.I wish I had 3 more years of practicing.My mom was going to put me in boxing at 8,but she put me in track and martial arts instead. Oh boy I wish she had.:nonono:

Now there are still wonders that pick up them relatively fast,dont get me wrong.But for you to be successful in the sport at a late age or starting late.You gotta excel in something above most regular ppl that box.

why you trying to be modest
->>:cool2:

Im only speaking the truth.

Reasonable goal for you. That's not going to be easy, you're going to have to win a lot of fights. But lots of people will accomplish that one.

It might not be easy,but Ive been told by alot of ppl.That the style I fight in is pretty exciting,and ppl like seeing exciting fighters.So I HOPE it wont be that difficult.

mma guys are turning pro with like one year of training. some go pro right out the gate. they end up fighting pro and honing their skills in the pro ranks where they actually get paid.

seeing as anyone can go pro, guess who you will be fighting in your first few fights? not the champs of the division i can tell you that.

also, how many guys who have been fighting since a young age never even turn pro or never even go anywhere in boxing? what happened to kirk johnson? how did sam peter make it further then him? this leads me to believe that this whole experience thing is bull**** and the people that do make it usually have some natural advantage.

For the ones that say they're going to be world champions.They should post some sort of spar or match on here.Im pretty curious.Even I dont have the balls to say I'll be a World Champion.:lol1: A success to me in the sport would be me making 50,000 dollars in a career of boxing.If more comes along its just a bonus.

i do not believe i am of world class talent right now. but i do believe in the future i will be. even then i know i'd have a lot of detractors. how many champs have been called bums? and you are being modest to the point that it's ridiculous. you probably make more than that at your current job lol. but you are right to a point. if you do make that much, you are probably in the top 5 rankings, just not champ.

Versatile is an 0-1 amatuer. I'm not hating on him, but he's no great example.

Sure there are always going to be Ricardo Mayorgas. I wouldn't count Marciano and Foreman in that cklass though. Marciano knew how to fight, and his few amateur tournamebnts were at the national level. Foreman was an Olympian. That's not like getting in a few scraps at the neighborhood gym.

he may be 0-2, but records can be decieving. he wasn't quite prepared in that first fight and got screwed in the second. and on top of all that, his style is not favorable in the amateurs. any record he gets in the amateurs is almost pointless. a great amateur career doesn't mean much these days, have you seen audley harrison recently? ****, people are saying miranda is better than ward, and ward was an olympic gold medalist. amateur and pro are different beasts and should be treated accordingly.

and with marciano, the fact remains that he still had less amateur fights then sam sorry ass peter lol. he just chose to learn the game instead of fight for the hell of it. george foreman, had around the same fights as marciano, i believe he boxed for 2 years max and then went pro. a lot of the stuff you learn is outside of the actual fights. didn't james toney have like 30 amateur fights? he's a masterful boxer.

the point is, either you have it or you don't and you won't know until you fight pro.

i do not believe i am of world class talent right now. but i do believe in the future i will be. even then i know i'd have a lot of detractors. how many champs have been called bums? and you are being modest to the point that it's ridiculous. you probably make more than that at your current job lol. but you are right to a point. if you do make that much, you are probably in the top 5 rankings, just not champ.


Im very cautious on my thinkings on boxing and what I could possibly make.I do want a Lamborghini though.:lol1: I think almost anybody that markets themselves well and have positive ppl around them can make it. Just look at the positive things Don King has done for nobodies and has beens.He gave them more chances to win a title.Andrew Golata and Ricardo Mayorga are 2 I can name. Hell look at Gatti?:lol1: A millionaire off of getting his ass beat.Also a World title holder.

Im very cautious on my thinkings on boxing and what I could possibly make.I do want a Lamborghini though.:lol1: I think almost anybody that markets themselves well and have positive ppl around them can make it. Just look at the positive things Don King has done for nobodies and has beens.He gave them more chances to win a title.Andrew Golata and Ricardo Mayorga are 2 I can name. Hell look at Gatti?:lol1: A millionaire off of getting his ass beat.Also a World title holder.

well, I hope you make good bread of it. About a year back when I was 19 and came back home from RI I was thinking about starting boxing at Gleason's. It would have been extremely hard to do both especially since I wanted to pursue it seriously. Problem there was I was attending and still going to college full time and doubted my pops would support it. You know how that goes :nonono: . But yea I came to accept the fact that it wasn't gona happen. I was kinda pissed off about it but I'm over it now.

well, I hope you make good bread of it. About a year back when I was 19 and came back home from RI I was thinking about starting boxing at Gleason's. It would have been extremely hard to do both especially since I wanted to pursue it seriously. Problem there was I was attending and still going to college full time and doubted my pops would support it. You know how that goes :nonono: . But yea I came to accept the fact that it wasn't gona happen. I was kinda pissed off about it but I'm over it now.

I wanna do both.If I make some money off of boxing I'm going back to college. So I'll be doing both.

i've been training everyday in a gym that has produced world kickboxing champs and is run by a former world kickboxing champ for the past month.

you know how i know i'm going to make it? [and this is coming from me on a "rest" day when i feel like **** about my motivation even tho i know my body needs the rest] 1. I'm smart and I know what it takes and what my advantages are. I'll be fighting at 175 at 6'5". I spend tons of time on in-ring shadow boxing, jump rope, speed bag. The things people neglect. 2. I can see it in my coaches'/other people there eyes. They see a prospect. [to quote Frazier from Smokin' Joe] I've been there a month and I've already sparred more times than people that have been there 2, 3, 6+ months! You aren't even supposed to be ABLE to spar until you've had a month there! 3. I don't care what it takes, I'll do it. I've been wearing a velcro strap between my legs the past 2 weeks working on my stance. That isn't saying a godly lot but still, how many people have you seen actually keep at that? 4. I can see a huge improvement. My stance is rounding out, my hands are getting quicker, each time I spar I get more in-tune with it, my left is getting stronger even which leads me to.. 5. My left hand is a ****in' bomb. I tore open a heavy bag with it the other day. I'm sure that that isn't even a big deal.. But, hell, it made me want to train MORE.

I know I'm going to make it. A few years from now Jordan Mathewson will be a known name on here. Believe it, or not, it don't matter to me.

i've been training everyday in a gym that has produced world kickboxing champs and is run by a former world kickboxing champ for the past month.

you know how i know i'm going to make it? [and this is coming from me on a "rest" day when i feel like **** about my motivation even tho i know my body needs the rest] 1. I'm smart and I know what it takes and what my advantages are. I'll be fighting at 175 at 6'5". I spend tons of time on in-ring shadow boxing, jump rope, speed bag. The things people neglect. 2. I can see it in my coaches'/other people there eyes. They see a prospect. [to quote Frazier from Smokin' Joe] I've been there a month and I've already sparred more times than people that have been there 2, 3, 6+ months! You aren't even supposed to be ABLE to spar until you've had a month there! 3. I don't care what it takes, I'll do it. I've been wearing a velcro strap between my legs the past 2 weeks working on my stance. That isn't saying a godly lot but still, how many people have you seen actually keep at that? 4. I can see a huge improvement. My stance is rounding out, my hands are getting quicker, each time I spar I get more in-tune with it, my left is getting stronger even which leads me to.. 5. My left hand is a ****in' bomb. I tore open a heavy bag with it the other day. I'm sure that that isn't even a big deal.. But, hell, it made me want to train MORE.

I know I'm going to make it. A few years from now Jordan Mathewson will be a known name on here. Believe it, or not, it don't matter to me.

this n!gga a damn liar lmao

i'll bring photographical evidence tomorrow. tore open at the top, like i said not that big of a deal, but still.

i wanna fight a lot of am fights, win a lot of am fights, and eventually start looking towards the bigger tournys in new york/north east.

i agree that i think a lot of people forget that boxing is a professional sport, like any other. titlists and champions are world class athletes. but it's ****ed up to to shoot somebody down and tell them straight up, "no you can't do that." there's always exceptions in every sport, including boxing.

really i wanna be a welsh aba champ, and aba champ and compete in the lympics or commonwealths! go pro, and win welsh, celtic, british commonwealth, eu tiles and all the alphabets such as wbu, iba ibc,ibo .....

Where do i see myself in a few years?!

I see myself at the top of the Heavyweight game man.

All i gotta do is keep myself outta trouble...but you know in the hood man, its difficult.

I'll just be walking up the street and some fools will be like "Yo! Squabbles.. you a mess man!" so i'll be like... building some rage up... suddenly, before i know... i'm throwing ****ing elbows and ni99as be hitting the dirt. No what i'm saying?

I got calls from some top Heavyweights man, wanting me to spar with em. I mean, after the smack i layed upon Brunson, people are seeing me as a natural contender man.

My hand speed is phenominal i've been told and i hit like a truck man. They call me the freight train man...cos being hit by me is like being hit by the damn train. Speed AND power?! Thats right man , thats me.

laters homes.. PM me if you wanna talk about the future of boxing further.

Peace out.

honestly. right now. all i'm focused on is winning my first ammy fight. i know that if i keep my drive i'll be a champion. and if not, this is still what i want to do with my life. i know it in my heart. i know it in my soul. more than anything else i've ever thought or felt in my entire life. that's real.

first i wanna make the olympic team n i think i can i aint that far i got wins over good ama. fighters.... and then i wanna go pro and see what happens i aint gonna say ima b a world champion cuz anything can happen i can get hurt and **** but ima try my best to become one

you ppl wonder y some of us knock u for saying you'll be a world champion..if i played my first ever game of basketball and said yo i know this is for me, in two years im gonna be in the nba im gonna be the mvp..everyone would say it's ludicrous..
If someone has had atleast 20 amatuer fights then i'd say he'd be able to work out whether he can be a pro and if he's gonna be any good..Someone who's sparred twice..No chance!
Talking about boxers who started late and still made it, guys these men were a handful out of millions.
The funniest thing is we have so many dreamers here...however how many are succesful amateurs?golden gloves champs?aba champs?area champs?I've not seen any. On the other hand how many of the dreamers are "starting late" with hardly any amateur fights or no amateur fights...the majority!

you ppl wonder y some of us knock u for saying you'll be a world champion..if i played my first ever game of basketball and said yo i know this is for me, in two years im gonna be in the nba im gonna be the mvp..everyone would say it's ludicrous..
If someone has had atleast 20 amatuer fights then i'd say he'd be able to work out whether he can be a pro and if he's gonna be any good..Someone who's sparred twice..No chance!
Talking about boxers who started late and still made it, guys these men were a handful out of millions.
The funniest thing is we have so many dreamers here...however how many are succesful amateurs?golden gloves champs?aba champs?area champs?I've not seen any. On the other hand how many of the dreamers are "starting late" with hardly any amateur fights or no amateur fights...the majority!
/QUE STEREOTYPICAL AMERICAN INSPIRATIONAL SPEECH MUSIC

So you have to be successful BEFORE you have the dream?

I thought having the dream and wanting to fulfill it would lead to success through dedication in trying to reach your goals no?

After a certain amount of fights you should be able to tell whether you can make it? So what if i didnt reach my goal in those 20 amateur fights? Should i just give up because according to the goals i set myself before "i cant make it"?
OR should I continue to better myself and keep on trying and trying till i get there? Were not all quitters like that you know.

And what point are you trying to make about people not being champions on here already? The fact that these people come on here to discuss boxing and help each other out to get better at it outside of the boxing gym shows their passion to succeed at their sport. If youre a champion you probably wont be on a forum asking questions will you? Youll probably already know most of what it takes and have a pretty damn good trainer bustin your ass.
What a dumb statement.

Whats worse............having the dream and putting time, sweat and effort to working towards it............or typing on a forum about how people with the dream are deluding themselves.

I know which one i have more respect for.

Vote GrizzleBoy, its the right thing to do.

Well, Ibragimove started boxing at 21, Hopkins only started boxing properly at 16, I'm 16 and I know I've got it, I just need to stay motivated. Also I'm already a black belt in taekwondo, I know it's not boxing, and I mean non- Olympic Taekwondo, so we use are hands and my instructor was a former boxer so I already have the reflexes, fighting instinct etc I need to work on the power etc.

But I'm gonna shut up now and go train!

Well, Ibragimove started boxing at 21, Hopkins only started boxing properly at 16, I'm 16 and I know I've got it, I just need to stay motivated. Also I'm already a black belt in taekwondo, I know it's not boxing, and I mean non- Olympic Taekwondo, so we use are hands and my instructor was a former boxer so I already have the reflexes, fighting instinct etc I need to work on the power etc.

But I'm gonna shut up now and go train!

Ibragimov started at 17 but had an outstanding amateur career before going pro. Hopkins started in his teens but had ****LOADS of streetfighting experience and then wen the hard way through the Graterford Prison boxing program.

sorry don't know what that was about, I meant 17 years old, I got mixed up with Earnie Shavers! :nonono:

But people like James Toney and Ibragimov aren't exactly the most athletically gifted boxers like RJJ and Mayweather,but they are born boxers which I think is different.

Some people just get a good hang on boxing

i heard that danny green didnt start boxing untill he was 20 and he wasnt a pro till he was late 20's so i guess it can be done

i like the sport but i just want to get fit and maybe have some amature fights if the opportunity happens

what about antonio tarver, he wasn't a great but he made it big, played with the big boys!

u know whats funny? all these nay sayers sayin its to late just makes me train harder cause i LOVE shutting ppl up. I win at everything, i dont lose, ive never lost a fight, never lose at 1 on 1 anything (team sports blow cause losers **** **** up) u get the picture. Ive always been physically gifted and mentally. im so f-in stubborn you nay sayers couldnt wrap your minds around it. im not saying im the greatest now or that i ever will be but ima stir up some ****. i know im better than alot of ams already cause frankly ppl are dumb and they fight like it. i may have a slight superiority complex but ive earned it.....daaaaaamn i sound like DA1...crap

you ppl wonder y some of us knock u for saying you'll be a world champion..if i played my first ever game of basketball and said yo i know this is for me, in two years im gonna be in the nba im gonna be the mvp..everyone would say it's ludicrous..
If someone has had atleast 20 amatuer fights then i'd say he'd be able to work out whether he can be a pro and if he's gonna be any good..Someone who's sparred twice..No chance!
Talking about boxers who started late and still made it, guys these men were a handful out of millions.
The funniest thing is we have so many dreamers here...however how many are succesful amateurs?golden gloves champs?aba champs?area champs?I've not seen any. On the other hand how many of the dreamers are "starting late" with hardly any amateur fights or no amateur fights...the majority!

i agree wit u about havin certain amount of fights and **** thats y i think i can make it and it is true the ones who started late and made it was cuz they have some sort of great talent to atleast make it.

foreman crossman got the rite attittude! i want 2 win my first 2 fights and take it from there!

Get to a gym first lol