According to Dana White who was recently quoted on saying that during his latest press conference. He also claimed that he doesn't even consider Fedor to be one of the top 5 Heavyweights in the world.

Bold words which will bite him in the ass.

According to Dana White who was recently quoted on saying that during his latest press conference. He also claimed that he doesn't even consider Fedor to be one of the top 5 Heavyweights in the world.

Bold words which will bite him in the ass.

He would beat any HW in the UFC. **** Dana White. He is just mad because Fedor doesnt want to be in the UFC.

i listened to that as well....i cant belive dana said that...yeah, he is pissed fedor didnt wana fight in the ufc

According to Dana White who was recently quoted on saying that during his latest press conference. He also claimed that he doesn't even consider Fedor to be one of the top 5 Heavyweights in the world.

Bold words which will bite him in the ass.

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What do you think about dana's comments fedor?


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Its almost as if Dana White goes out of his way to find new ways for me to hate him every other day.

He would beat any HW in the UFC. **** Dana White. He is just mad because Fedor doesnt want to be in the UFC.

He probably would beat any HW in the UFC but ya never know, and never will.
I wish he would have went to the UFC just to beat up Tim Sylvia.

He probably would beat any HW in the UFC but ya never know, and never will.
I wish he would have went to the UFC just to beat up Tim Sylvia.

I'm with you on that homie. Still Dana is a punk for hating on Fedor like that. From what I've seen, the guy is a mother****ing BEAST.

Why does it not surprise me that the scumbag known as Dana White would go out of his way to insult the greatest MMA fighter ever, out of spite for not signing with the UFC?

Dana White is the Don King of MMA. Rude, full of himself, dismissive, and completely and utterly self-serving.

Why does it not surprise me that the scumbag known as Dana White would go out of his way to insult the greatest MMA fighter ever, out of spite for not signing with the UFC?

Dana White is the Don King of MMA. Rude, full of himself, dismissive, and completely and utterly self-serving.

True, except Don King is a lot more sly and charasmatic.

True, except Don King is a lot more sly and charasmatic.

Do you get pissed off how Dana always wants to be the star of the show. With the reality show and the fight cards and such.

What a bitch.

Do you get pissed off how Dana always wants to be the star of the show. With the reality show and the fight cards and such.

What a bitch.

UFC is the dana white show, I hear fans ask him for autographs at events. LMAO!!

Do you get pissed off how Dana always wants to be the star of the show. With the reality show and the fight cards and such.

What a bitch.

lol Yeah the MMA P Diddy

What a classless bitch Dana has become!

I just think its wrong to publicly disrespect anyone like that. Fedor has done tons for this sport and doesn't deserve to be put on the spot by a business man, not even a fighter.

Giving Dana the benefit of the doubt im pretty sure he was just trying to stroke Randy a bit, but he went about it the wrong way, i found it just classless and disrespectful towards all fighters.

Dana said Fedor is overrated because he hasn't fought top competition in two years.


TS is just posting bullshit to get people against Dana...

Well its Dana's fault for being a cheap ass his his fighters when it comes to pay.

i don't agree with dana white on the fedor sucks part but i do agree with he's not a top 5 heavyweight...B4 i get bashed for that i'll give my opinion on why.
he's beaten alot of good fighters from pride randalman hunt coleman, but whats fedor gonna prove beating the same people over and over again?
and M-1 is gonna bring in who for heavyweights? Barnet, Hunt again...fujita for a second go as well?
i don't think Fedor and Aleks will ever fight so thats another heavyweight contender 2 count out of who fedor will not fight.
until fedor is tested by some ufc heavyweights i don't think he can stay a top 5heavyweight, Arlovski i think would have a good chance against Fedor possible KO or Submission, he's been kinda laid back lately but i think a fight with Fedor would bring back the old fire he used 2 have.
Tim Sylvia as much as i hate 2 say it would also have a good chance against Fedor.
A healthy explosive Brandon Vera could very well out work Fedor.
i'll even throw in a few guys that may just surpise him,Gonzaga and Kongo both beat Mirko CroCop a fighter Fedor himself had trouble with.
Jake O'Brian could probably just maybe pull out a lay and pray win over Fedor.
hell i'll even throw in Frank Mir.
all these guys i believe would have a good shot at beating Fedor.
Randy Couture would have a definate gameplan on beating Fedor, he's wanted 2 fight him since he won the belt :) so i think he'll b ready if the fight happens next year sometime :cool:
sorry for the long post jus thought i'd put up my thoughts on the fedor in the top 5 heavyweight discussion.
peace.

Well its Dana's fault for being a cheap ass his his fighters when it comes to pay.

Please explain how Dana White is cheap.

Dana is only hurting himself. How does it look to the public if you wanted to sign Fedor to the UFC and he declines your offer. Now you want to belittle his accomplishments. Dana is ****ing himself up big time if he continue this bullshit he is doing.

^ Joe Torre turned down the Yankees and that team will still be famous and ppl will still watch them...

i don't agree with dana white on the fedor sucks part but i do agree with he's not a top 5 heavyweight...B4 i get bashed for that i'll give my opinion on why.
he's beaten alot of good fighters from pride randalman hunt coleman, but whats fedor gonna prove beating the same people over and over again?
and M-1 is gonna bring in who for heavyweights? Barnet, Hunt again...fujita for a second go as well?
i don't think Fedor and Aleks will ever fight so thats another heavyweight contender 2 count out of who fedor will not fight.
until fedor is tested by some ufc heavyweights i don't think he can stay a top 5heavyweight, Arlovski i think would have a good chance against Fedor possible KO or Submission, he's been kinda laid back lately but i think a fight with Fedor would bring back the old fire he used 2 have.
Tim Sylvia as much as i hate 2 say it would also have a good chance against Fedor.
A healthy explosive Brandon Vera could very well out work Fedor.
i'll even throw in a few guys that may just surpise him,Gonzaga and Kongo both beat Mirko CroCop a fighter Fedor himself had trouble with.
Jake O'Brian could probably just maybe pull out a lay and pray win over Fedor.
hell i'll even throw in Frank Mir.
all these guys i believe would have a good shot at beating Fedor.
Randy Couture would have a definate gameplan on beating Fedor, he's wanted 2 fight him since he won the belt :) so i think he'll b ready if the fight happens next year sometime :cool:
sorry for the long post jus thought i'd put up my thoughts on the fedor in the top 5 heavyweight discussion.
peace.

Fedor has beaten good competition and has consistently won in impressive fashion. All those guys you mentioned would have a slim chance against Fedor. Arlovski is not that good. Tim Sylvia would get beat the **** down, which would be fun to watch. Brandon Vera would not last 2 rounds. Frank Mir? Come the **** on.. he wouldn't have much chance before his accident, let alone now.

Sure it would be nice to see Fedor tested against UFC hws, but its not as though he has not been adequatly tested before. Pride was previously home to the top HWs in the sport and he cleaned out the division. And a fight against Barnett would be a stiff test, actually.

Fedor has beaten good competition and has consistently won in impressive fashion. All those guys you mentioned would have a slim chance against Fedor. Arlovski is not that good. Tim Sylvia would get beat the **** down, which would be fun to watch. Brandon Vera would not last 2 rounds. Frank Mir? Come the **** on.. he wouldn't have much chance before his accident, let alone now.

Sure it would be nice to see Fedor tested against UFC hws, but its not as though he has not been adequatly tested before. Pride was previously home to the top HWs in the sport and he cleaned out the division. And a fight against Barnett would be a stiff test, actually.


Sorry bro i gotta disagree, the beauty of this sport is that at any given time anyone can beat anyone. And honestly a guy like Tim Sylvia is hugely underrated due to not having outstanding athletic prow less, the man is very tested and in my honest opinion a legitimate match for anyone.

Fedor although has all of my respect and one of the reason why i decided to get into the sport is not invincible.

Sorry bro i gotta disagree, the beauty of this sport is that at any given time anyone can beat anyone. And honestly a guy like Tim Sylvia is hugely underrated due to not having outstanding athletic prow less, the man is very tested and in my honest opinion a legitimate match for anyone.

Fedor although has all of my respect and one of the reason why i decided to get into the sport is not invincible.

I never tried to say he's invincible or that he would definatly lose to those guys. My point was that each would be a huge underdog, which is what I meant when I said they'd "have a slim chance against Fedor." IMO, Fedor has already beaten better fighters than each of those mentioned in the post I was responding to. Blairs said Fedor isn't top 5, which is laughable, to put it nicely. But hey, don't take my word for it.. just read what other fighters say about him (courtesy of Kaps):

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142372

Here's a taste:

-"The best in the world, no doubt." - Phil Baroni

-"Fedor has no weakness! I have seen so many fights, and even the best fighters in the world have a flaw in their game but I have yet to find one in Fedor Emelianenko." - Bas Rutten, former king of Pancrase and UFC HW Champion FSN

-"Probably the best ever lived....he's a living legend right now and I don't think there's a man on this planet who can beat him; the man is unreal. Pound for pound the best in the world." - Diego Sanchez, hooterandgreenway radio show

-"Fedor is my favorite." - BJ Penn, former UFC Welterweight Champion and BJJ world Champion, NWFS 7/9/06

Dug up this short HL vid. Its a bit like the narration says at the beginning.

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Doesn't look like a "non-top 5 HW" to me.

Forgot to mention, Sylvia's also a cheating bitch. As if his size wasn't enough, he fealt the need to juice as well.

Fedor couldve been juicing as well.
Hell, all of the top named fighters could have in pride.

Fedor couldve been juicing as well.
Hell, all of the top named fighters could have in pride.

Yes, but Sylvia was caught after one of his title fights. And the UFC downplayed the situation and retained him as Champion.

Though in Fedor's case, I don't think he has the build of someone on Juice. And with him its more so the skills that pay the bills, not size and strength. Keep in mind, that roids are not necessarily an advantage, as they can diminish ones quickness, which Fedor needs. I'd say in Sylvia's case, they are more of an and given his style.

Dug up this short HL vid. Its a bit like the narration says at the beginning.

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Doesn't look like a "non-top 5 HW" to me.

LMAO that was the most bias nut hugging vid ive seen in a long time. Fedor is great no doubt, but to say he's light years ahead of the competition is just down right foolish.
I respect all fellow fighters and to say that no Heavyweight can beat this man is disrespectful towards all in that division.

LMAO that was the most bias nut hugging vid ive seen in a long time. Fedor is great no doubt, but to say he's light years ahead of the competition is just down right foolish.
I respect all fellow fighters and to say that no Heavyweight can beat this man is disrespectful towards all in that division.

Didn't say the views expressed were my own, just found it funny that this vid came up. Note that I referred to the first part of the video.

And HL vids are made by fans so they're often a bit nuthugish.

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Upon reviewing the vid., when did it say he's light years ahead of everyone?

Though he's shown a greater arsenal than any other fighter I'm aware of so its not a streach to say he's in a league all his own, in a sense.

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Upon reviewing the vid., when did it say he's light years ahead of everyone?

Though he's shown a greater arsenal than any other fighter I'm aware of so its not a stretch to say he's in a league all his own, in a sense.


i wasent referring to you bro i was just making a generalization, popular opinion believes that hes on his own field and is unstoppable, although Fedor is as close to unstoppable as it gets i just think its disrespectful to all other Heavy's to count them out.

For example i compete at 170 and when i would converse with fans of the sport they would bring up the fact that i stand no chance because GSP is king and GSP is this and that. Now i know that at this stage in my mma game GSP would completely beat the shit out of me lol, but to tell me ill never have a chance against another human being i found that to be disrespectful and i didnt like the feeling.

LOL, I bet these clowns saw like 5 Fedor fights TOPS and they all hoppin on the bandwagon....****in clowns.

i wasent referring to you bro i was just making a generalization, popular opinion believes that hes on his own field and is unstoppable, although Fedor is as close to unstoppable as it gets i just think its disrespectful to all other Heavy's to count them out.

For example i compete at 170 and when i would converse with fans of the sport they would bring up the fact that i stand no chance because GSP is king and GSP is this and that. Now i know that at this stage in my mma game GSP would completely beat the shit out of me lol, but to tell me ill never have a chance against another human being i found that to be disrespectful and i didnt like the feeling.

Yeah I here you. Anyone can be beaten, just from what I've seen his the clear candidate for the #1 HW spot. He's beaten excelent strikers, excelent submission fighters, excelent wrestlers, and has shown a willingness to fight them at there game at times. He's simply the most complete and most proven HW out there today. Still, he can be beat, and Barnett may be the guy to do it if they end up fighting. I think this because of the style matchups.. some may disagree, but I feel Fedor has shown a slight vulnerablity against wrestlers. Barnett is big and experienced so I think he'd give Fedor a difficult fight.

I guess its a bit similar to some people's reasons for choosing Sylvia over Fedor, though I personally don't see Tim beating him.

LOL, I bet these clowns saw like 5 Fedor fights TOPS and they all hoppin on the bandwagon....****in clowns.

Shut the **** up tard. Your the only ignorant **** on this thread.

Yes, but Sylvia was caught after one of his title fights. And the UFC downplayed the situation and retained him as Champion.

Though in Fedor's case, I don't think he has the build of someone on Juice. And with him its more so the skills that pay the bills, not size and strength. Keep in mind, that roids are not necessarily an advantage, as they can diminish ones quickness, which Fedor needs. I'd say in Sylvia's case, they are more of an and given his style.

I dont think all steriods will automatically make you ripped as hell do they?
I just know that steriods were legal in japan, and seeing how top fighters such as crocop, nog, shogun aint running through fighters with that fire they had in pride.

sorry forgot 2 add that yes fedor is top 5 now what i meant 2 say is how long can he stay there living off his past victories?
and don't count out the ufc fighters, i mean come on what happend 2 cro cop, he was supposed 2 run through the division, so was heath herring, and nog could have been easily beat if herring capitalized when he rocked nog.
they were great fighters in pride saw their fights and i became a fan, but since they jumped into the octagon against supposedly inferior ufc fighters they've been proven 2 b quite beatable.
i don't see it being much different for fedor.
and yes i think the fighters i've listed have a great shot at beating fedor count em out and say fedor is unbeatable is just not right.
M-1 who do they have 2 bring in 2 fight fedor? he and aleks won't fight, the rest he's beaten from pride, barnet? than what?
more middleweights and light heavyweights?
i'm a big fedor fan but i don't think he can stay a top 5 heavyweight if thats all he's gonna do is live off his past victories and fight the un-established fighters in M-1.
just my 2 cents.
peace.

Fedor couldve been juicing as well.
Hell, all of the top named fighters could have in pride.

Fedor doesnt even lift weights. not very likely he juices regardless. and hes only been getting lighter and more fit over time, not the other way around

Fedor beat a prime CC and Nog. those fights were several years ago. fighters age, they dont operate in a vacuum. very foolish to argue those wins, from years ago, mean less because of how CC has fought recently. very short sighted

most fightes think fedor is what people say he is. when bj penn, rampage and others repeat how good he is, I think I'll take their words over dana or posters

sorry forgot 2 add that yes fedor is top 5 now what i meant 2 say is how long can he stay there living off his past victories?
and don't count out the ufc fighters, i mean come on what happend 2 cro cop, he was supposed 2 run through the division, so was heath herring, and nog could have been easily beat if herring capitalized when he rocked nog.
they were great fighters in pride saw their fights and i became a fan, but since they jumped into the octagon against supposedly inferior ufc fighters they've been proven 2 b quite beatable.
i don't see it being much different for fedor.
and yes i think the fighters i've listed have a great shot at beating fedor count em out and say fedor is unbeatable is just not right.
M-1 who do they have 2 bring in 2 fight fedor? he and aleks won't fight, the rest he's beaten from pride, barnet? than what?
more middleweights and light heavyweights?
i'm a big fedor fan but i don't think he can stay a top 5 heavyweight if thats all he's gonna do is live off his past victories and fight the un-established fighters in M-1.
just my 2 cents.
peace.

I agree with you, Fedor cant become complacent with what he has already accomplished in this sport because the sport changes everyday. Thats why Randy to a certain extent has more of may admiration that Fedor does at the time. Randy is still "in the mix" and knocking off top contended talent. Fedor is kinda sitting on his king of the mountain thrown while the sport moves foward.

IM not knocking Fedor i love everything about the guy, im just dieing to see him face some top ranked opponents.

BTW Blair i dig the Rickson avatar nice.

Fedor beat a prime CC and Nog. those fights were several years ago. fighters age, they dont operate in a vacuum. very foolish to argue those wins, from years ago, mean less because of how CC has fought recently. very short sighted

most fightes think fedor is what people say he is. when bj penn, rampage and others repeat how good he is, I think I'll take their words over dana or posters

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Randy Couture "ahem"
If he can do it at over the age of 40 then **** em other guys.

I agree with you, Fedor cant become complacent with what he has already accomplished in this sport because the sport changes everyday. Thats why Randy to a certain extent has more of may admiration that Fedor does at the time. Randy is still "in the mix" and knocking off top contended talent. Fedor is kinda sitting on his king of the mountain thrown while the sport moves foward.

IM not knocking Fedor i love everything about the guy, im just dieing to see him face some top ranked opponents.

BTW Blair i dig the Rickson avatar nice.

I agree with you guys that its a shame that Fedor will not fight the UFC's talent pool. However, I don't fault him for it because it seems to me that his people were very clear on their demands and that the UFC and Dana White both took this for granted and disrespected them to boot. Randy's resignation and subsequent comments should be evident enough of the UFC's retarded business practices. Its a shame, but I can't hold it against Fedor.

Fedor is not the only former pride fighter to be MIA since the disolving of Pride, which is merely one unfortunate consequence of the UFC's purchase of pride. I understand the concerns that he won't have anyone to fight, but who knows? its too soon to tell. There are still some good HWs out there not in the UFC, some of whom are still fighting in Japan. If M1 has enough money behind it, they should be able to lure quality fighters to fight on their shows.. just being optomistic here.

As for Crocop and Nog in UFC, I believe that Crocop has suffered greatly from changing from the ring to the cage. If you watch the fight with Kongo, Crocop spent the first round basically chasing Kongo around the ring. Crocop doesnt fight backing up, he walks his opponents down. With all the space in the octogon, and the angles through which to escape, this is not nearly as conducive to his style. Also, his best days are behind him, and he may just be cashing in on his name at this point.

I think with Nog., the jury's still out a bit. Last I knew, getting knocked off your feet by a H. Herring high kick isn't anything to be ashamed about, at least if you finnish the fight with a W. Hopefully he'll be back to form, though only time will tell. Also, doesn't he have eye problems as well? That could be part of the reson he's declined, IF he has.

Just a few thoughts, some of it speculative. As a fan of Fedor, I'm just hopefull that we'll see some good fights soon, and I'm hopeful that M-1 can attract some good talent. Though I see the causes for concern.

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Randy Couture "ahem"
If he can do it at over the age of 40 then **** em other guys.

Randy Couture is clearly an exception to the rule of aged fighters.*











*See Bernard Hopkins for a similar example.

It's like saying the Florida State Seminoles (college football) are the best because they dominated from 1987-2001........IT'S 2007, GET WITH THE PROGRAM


I'm sorry, I love Fedor(no homo), but he isn't number one anymore.

Randy Couture is clearly an exception to the rule of aged fighters.*











*See Bernard Hopkins for a similar example.

Hopkins is a bum though.

from what i've read Fedor will b fighting in february and Monson wants 2 b the opponent, should b good, Monson is a strong ground fighter.

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hopefully.
That lil smurf would make history.

Hopkins is a bum though.

Keep making intelegint comments like that and I might just take you seriously:rolleyes:

i actually want to see him against couture...

the consensus was
1 fedor
2 cro cop
am i right?

cro cop is still to win a fight in the ufc!!!

he's proven himself for sure but a fight with couture has to happen (even though i think he'll win)

Fedor is one of the most intelligent, and well rounded MMA to ever live.

Keep making intelegint comments like that and I might just take you seriously:rolleyes:

When you learn how to spell words such as intelligent, I might take you seriously also:D