View Full Version : Most power Tyson or Tua??


lyrical
10-24-2007, 07:47 AM
Who at there peak hit hardest Tyson or Tua???

poet682006
10-24-2007, 07:55 AM
I'm inclined to say Tyson although it's close. Tua was more ponderous in his delivery of that power: Tyson was clearly the more efficient puncher of the two.

Poet

Yaman
10-24-2007, 08:15 AM
I'm inclined to say Tyson although it's close. Tua was more ponderous in his delivery of that power: Tyson was clearly the more efficient puncher of the two.

Poet

Perfectly said. It just looks like Tua has so much brute force behind his punches, plus he doesn't use as much technique as Tyson, or as often. Tyson is more of a sting, Tua carries more of a stomp.

Southpaw Stinger
10-24-2007, 08:43 AM
I think Tua naturally carried more power but Tyson let his go more. I'd say Tua's left was better than Tyson's for one punch stoppages but Tyson's left was usually followed by an equally as powerful right..

-CANE-
10-24-2007, 08:45 AM
Agree with the 2 above. Tyson had much better technique and more speed and if you cant see it coming you cant prepare to take it.

Which in a way is why Foreman is so impressive. He brought his punches right back and you could see what he was going to do but still you just couldn't prepare for that kind of power, Shavers was similar as well.

poet682006
10-24-2007, 09:03 AM
I think Tua naturally carried more power but Tyson let his go more. I'd say Tua's left was better than Tyson's for one punch stoppages but Tyson's left was usually followed by an equally as powerful right..

Tyson's best punch, in fact, was his straight right. Most people usually think it was his left hook, but from rewatching a number of his fights I became convinced his right was better.

Poet

Southpaw Stinger
10-24-2007, 09:16 AM
Tyson's best punch, in fact, was his straight right. Most people usually think it was his left hook, but from rewatching a number of his fights I became convinced his right was better.

Poet

I would probably agree. There was an emphasis on his left because he was a converted southpaw and I think people were digging for comparisons with Frazier. But he carried pop in both hands and could take guys out with a left hook or straight right whereas Tua and Frazier were mainly exclusive to the left...

-CANE-
10-24-2007, 10:06 AM
I have quite a few Tyson videos and interviews and he say's himself that his straight right hand is his best punch.

He also say's that the straight right hand he threw that knocked Holmes down for the 1st of 3 knockdowns was the greatest punch he ever threw.

Which shows you how good a chin Holmes had and how great his recuperative powers were. An old slow 38yr old Holmes nearly survived to the end of that round which is testament to how good he was.

Tyson said afterwards "Everyone knows Larry Holmes is a legend and if he was in his prime I wouldn't have stood a chance".

Hawkins
10-24-2007, 10:33 AM
Natural bone-crushing power I'd give the nod to Tua. However, Mike was a heavyhanded dude but what got him thru was lightning hand speed combined with his power. Plus Mike was a great combination puncher.

The Iron Man
10-24-2007, 01:16 PM
Tyson's best punch, in fact, was his straight right. Most people usually think it was his left hook, but from rewatching a number of his fights I became convinced his right was better.

Poet

Yep thats damn right. I even remember him after a fight i think Micheal Johnson, he says how happy he was that he hit him with his Right cose thats his best punch, but he doesnt hit it as mch and finishes people witht he left hook.
Its awsome that he probably had the best left hook (debatable with frazier) and still his right was better! Also i think he had more power than Tua!

metalinmybrain
10-25-2007, 12:31 AM
I think Tua naturally carried more power but Tyson let his go more. I'd say Tua's left was better than Tyson's for one punch stoppages but Tyson's left was usually followed by an equally as powerful right..
You must not know one thing about boxing pal! Just look at the knockout ratios between the two fighters. Hell, for an old washed up Tyson who was fighting Lewis. It's pretty sad if even Lewis said Tyson his harder than Tua and how old was Tua? Tyson's punch is equivalent to an 18lb sludge hammer hitting you at 30mph.

QUOTE "Tyson's left was usually followed by an equally as powerful right", seriously who have you been watching fight? Tyson may have very well finished of allot of his opponents with one punch a left hook! He sent more of his opponents flying into the ropes with that left and didn't need the right to match it. Tyson has stated that his right hand is more powerful but he always seems to knock them dead with his left!? In order to deliver the more powerful punch you must deliver the perfect technique. How else do you get knockouts pal? His form was far superior to Tua's, generating power from beneath was what made Tyson's punches so unreal with raw power!

Tyson by far hit harder than Tua there is no comparison on this thread because in all due reality everyone knows just by reviewing the records Tyson is amongst the heaviest punchers of all time and allot further up than David Tua!

catskills23
10-25-2007, 04:31 PM
You must not know one thing about boxing pal! Just look at the knockout ratios between the two fighters. Hell, for an old washed up Tyson who was fighting Lewis. It's pretty sad if even Lewis said Tyson his harder than Tua and how old was Tua? Tyson's punch is equivalent to an 18lb sludge hammer hitting you at 30mph.

QUOTE "Tyson's left was usually followed by an equally as powerful right", seriously who have you been watching fight? Tyson may have very well finished of allot of his opponents with one punch a left hook! He sent more of his opponents flying into the ropes with that left and didn't need the right to match it. Tyson has stated that his right hand is more powerful but he always seems to knock them dead with his left!? In order to deliver the more powerful punch you must deliver the perfect technique. How else do you get knockouts pal? His form was far superior to Tua's, generating power from beneath was what made Tyson's punches so unreal with raw power!

Tyson by far hit harder than Tua there is no comparison on this thread because in all due reality everyone knows just by reviewing the records Tyson is amongst the heaviest punchers of all time and allot further up than David Tua!

When did lewis say that tyson hit harder than tua?.

them_apples
10-25-2007, 08:16 PM
He didn't but Lewis said Tua's left hook wasn't that great. However I'm inclined to say Tua just never really connected, cause many other fighter's claimed the opposite .
Going by just viewing fights Tua does look like he hits harder, although almost all evidence says Tyson does. Tyson made a guy cry in the ring, he's one of the hardest punchers ever.

Toddy
10-25-2007, 08:21 PM
Its already mostly been said but...Tyson had more technique and hand speed to deliver the power he had (which was a lot) but tua might have had the slight edge but just not enough speed to get the power to the other fighter. The knockdown that frazier got on ali is something i always remember because he did it with great timing, speed and accuracy. These combined can make a not so powerful punch a pretty damn sore one

metalinmybrain
10-26-2007, 02:34 AM
When did lewis say that tyson hit harder than tua?.
He said it after the fight with Tyson. Tyson was being interviewed while Lewis was stating this.

hemichromis
10-26-2007, 03:39 AM
tuas left hook is one of the most powerful punches in boxing bt tyson was far superior in EVERY other way.

tua had a hard time landing whereas tyson could land cleanly on anyone

hemichromis
10-26-2007, 03:42 AM
when did tua land a good left hook on lewis?

i never saw it so how can he compare?


he was only trying to show that when he beat tyson, tyson WAS still as dangerous as he has always been.

lyrical
10-26-2007, 04:06 AM
You cant compare there power based on there fights with Lewis because neither of them landed a good shot against Lewis. If they had they would have won by KO.

metalinmybrain
10-26-2007, 04:08 AM
tuas left hook is one of the most powerful punches in boxing bt tyson was far superior in EVERY other way.

tua had a hard time landing whereas tyson could land cleanly on anyone
LOL, now this **** is funny. Yeah Tua's left hook was so fast he knocked out most of his opponents with it like Tyson did. Right pal, keep dreaming Tyson's left hook was so devastating it turned a mans brain into blender slushy. One punch from Tyson's left hook and he sends his opponents flying across the ring. This is something Tua was never able to do like Tyson.

metalinmybrain
10-26-2007, 04:10 AM
You cant compare there power based on there fights with Lewis because neither of them landed a good shot against Lewis. If they had they would have won by KO.
You can't even compare the Tyson that fought Lewis against the Tua the fought Lewis. Age and mental status played a big ass role in this one, Tua was fresh much younger when he got man handled by Lewis, Tyson was old over the hill mentally disrupted and only fighting to pay bills. A prime Tyson would have crushed Lewis early like he did in their sparing sessions. Tua was just defeated because Lewis is the better fight/boxer~!

metalinmybrain
10-26-2007, 04:12 AM
when did tua land a good left hook on lewis?

i never saw it so how can he compare?


he was only trying to show that when he beat tyson, tyson WAS still as dangerous as he has always been.
Tyson wasn't the same fighter and that is a fact kid, who the hell are you trying to kid, kid? Tyson promoted that fight and fought it for money and that is it. No question about this subject had Lewis faced Tyson in the 80's when Tyson wanted him instead of jacking off in the Amateurs he would have gotten knocked senseless because he wouldn't be able to have his special head gear against Tyson's brutal onslaughts!

Turn your brain on then type!

lyrical
10-26-2007, 04:17 AM
You can't even compare the Tyson that fought Lewis against the Tua the fought Lewis. Age and mental status played a big ass role in this one, Tua was fresh much younger when he got man handled by Lewis, Tyson was old over the hill mentally disrupted and only fighting to pay bills. A prime Tyson would have crushed Lewis early like he did in their sparing sessions. Tua was just defeated because Lewis is the better fight/boxer~!

Im just saying they didnt land cleanly so for people to compare there power for this fight just doesnt make sense . If you know boxing you would now that the last thing a fighter loses is his power.

newforce
10-26-2007, 04:32 AM
this is a rhetorical question,
tyson..

catskills23
10-26-2007, 02:43 PM
He said it after the fight with Tyson. Tyson was being interviewed while Lewis was stating this.

i saw that interview right after the fight and i dont recall lewis saying that . What were lewis exact words exactly?.

catskills23
10-26-2007, 02:43 PM
He said it after the fight with Tyson. Tyson was being interviewed while Lewis was stating this.

i saw that interview right after the fight and i dont recall lewis saying that . What were lewis exact words exactly?.

Slotff
10-26-2007, 03:57 PM
I think Tua just edges it in brute force. Tyson lets his hands go more often (as was said) and Tua sometimes waits too long (Lewis) but he is so explosive when he punches.

Slotff
10-26-2007, 04:03 PM
when did tua land a good left hook on lewis?

.

Tua landed several actually... see for yourself

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Dorian
10-26-2007, 06:08 PM
Tua had a bit more power but Tyson let his go more.

Dorian
10-26-2007, 06:09 PM
Tua landed several actually... see for yourself

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good video:cop:

hemichromis
10-26-2007, 06:53 PM
LOL, now this **** is funny. Yeah Tua's left hook was so fast he knocked out most of his opponents with it like Tyson did. Right pal, keep dreaming Tyson's left hook was so devastating it turned a mans brain into blender slushy. One punch from Tyson's left hook and he sends his opponents flying across the ring. This is something Tua was never able to do like Tyson.

yes but when did tua land a hook cleanly on the side of a good opponents jaw?

Tyson could do tis with disturbing regularity

hemichromis
10-26-2007, 06:56 PM
Tyson wasn't the same fighter and that is a fact kid, who the hell are you trying to kid, kid? Tyson promoted that fight and fought it for money and that is it. No question about this subject had Lewis faced Tyson in the 80's when Tyson wanted him instead of jacking off in the Amateurs he would have gotten knocked senseless because he wouldn't be able to have his special head gear against Tyson's brutal onslaughts!

Turn your brain on then type!


Turn YOUR brain on then read!


i said lewis wanted people to believe he beat tyson while he was still dangerous. tyson was still dangerous but a mere chadow of his former self.

now why don't you shut your hole and learn something from the more experienced members of this forum.

hemichromis
10-26-2007, 06:57 PM
this is a rhetorical question,
tyson..

its rhetorical if you expect an answer.

hemichromis
10-26-2007, 06:59 PM
Tua landed several actually... see for yourself

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ok i just watched the vid. earlier i was a little pressed for time. like i said none of those were perfect shot hooks that tua throws and only one or two connected decently. i dont remeber him hitting lewisthat much!

lewis has a better chin than i thought

metalinmybrain
10-26-2007, 11:28 PM
Turn YOUR brain on then read!


i said lewis wanted people to believe he beat tyson while he was still dangerous. tyson was still dangerous but a mere chadow of his former self.

now why don't you shut your hole and learn something from the more experienced members of this forum.
Please *******, first you don't even know how to spell so how in the hell are you to call yourself an expert? Second this boxing site is nothing more than a cheap shot imitation of the far better ones available. Third I know more about boxing than your ass can look up on GOOGLE! Lastly, I came onto this site to prove you idiots the real deal about boxing and that is what I am doing kid!

**** OFF KID!

metalinmybrain
10-26-2007, 11:29 PM
sorry i meant CLEAN blows
WOW, those blows don't get more cleaner than that kid! Tua didn't have what it took to take out Lewis not even a fancy left hook that hit Lewis while he was off balance could take him out.

metalinmybrain
10-26-2007, 11:31 PM
Im just saying they didnt land cleanly so for people to compare there power for this fight just doesnt make sense . If you know boxing you would now that the last thing a fighter loses is his power.
Well yes that last thing a fighter does lose is his power, but what made Tyson's power so dramatic and affective is the accuracy and speed to follow it. His perfect timing would have sent Lewis to the canvas for good but it was something Tyson lost long ago before facing Lewis. Besides that Tua fought Lewis and his record was looking very good, he was still fresh young and in his prime, Lewis was fighting his best as well and was peaking. Tyson was over the hill ****ing in the head and only fighting for one thing "MONEY".

Jim Jeffries
10-27-2007, 02:10 AM
Who at there peak hit hardest Tyson or Tua???

Tua looked pretty good in his last fight and is only 34, so he might make a bit of a comeback. I think Tua hits harder, especially that left hook, but Tyson throws a lot more punches, in combinations, from many angles, and the combined effect is more damaging.

hemichromis
10-27-2007, 03:37 AM
Please *******, first you don't even know how to spell so how in the hell are you to call yourself an expert? Second this boxing site is nothing more than a cheap shot imitation of the far better ones available. Third I know more about boxing than your ass can look up on GOOGLE! Lastly, I came onto this site to prove you idiots the real deal about boxing and that is what I am doing kid!

**** OFF KID!

oh my god i mistyped!!!!!

this must mean i dont know anything about boxing,english, science, anything!!!

good thing you use the spell check ;)

hemichromis
10-27-2007, 03:42 AM
Well yes that last thing a fighter does lose is his power, but what made Tyson's power so dramatic and affective is the accuracy and speed to follow it. His perfect timing would have sent Lewis to the canvas for good but it was something Tyson lost long ago before facing Lewis. Besides that Tua fought Lewis and his record was looking very good, he was still fresh young and in his prime, Lewis was fighting his best as well and was peaking. Tyson was over the hill ****ing in the head and only fighting for one thing "MONEY".

you come up with so much crap then you write something thats right on the money
well done kid!

metalinmybrain
10-27-2007, 08:24 PM
Tua looked pretty good in his last fight and is only 34, so he might make a bit of a comeback. I think Tua hits harder, especially that left hook, but Tyson throws a lot more punches, in combinations, from many angles, and the combined effect is more damaging.
Tua's left hook is more powerful but yet Tyson has more knockouts with that punch on his card? You make no sense kid?

metalinmybrain
10-27-2007, 08:27 PM
you come up with so much crap then you write something thats right on the money
well done kid!
I don't know how to react to the first part of your reply because I am new to this site doesn't mean I don't know allot about this sport. Fact is, I came onto this site to share some real insight of this sport and it's fighters.

Tyson hits harder than Tua and that is a fact, just look at the records because it says it all. Tyson's left hook has to be the most powerful fast punch I have ever seen. Frazier Tua? Are you kidding me, sense when did these two men send an opponents flying across the ring into the ropes with one punch, a left hook?????!

Anyway, thanks and I look forward to some more debating, peace!

metalinmybrain
10-27-2007, 08:28 PM
oh my god i mistyped!!!!!

this must mean i dont know anything about boxing,english, science, anything!!!

good thing you use the spell check ;)
Spell check? Sorry but that is why you go to school pal, to learn how to spell!