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Super_Lightweight
10-22-2007, 02:27 PM
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I lost by 2nd round stoppage. Ref waived it off at 4 count. I was pretty nervous. Usually I am not nearly as nervous.

It sucked. I had my mind on some out of the ring things, but still...

floydfan
10-22-2007, 05:09 PM
Were you blue or red

K-Nine
10-22-2007, 05:18 PM
Hey, the main thing that I can say it for you to jab, jab, JAB. Becsue I noticed that you seemed to follow the guy around, but not with any punches. He had reall low hands, so even jabbing would have kept him much busier. Thats the difference between walking DOWN a guy and walking INTO a guy. Just throw some jabs. Other than that, i gotta give you props on your lateral movement, mate. You knew how to cut him off... now it's a matter of moving your hands when you get him cornered like that.

Good luck.

ferocity
10-22-2007, 05:44 PM
Wheres the second round? ****, i've been stopped too. Its nothing fun. Just got to get over it mentally and you'll be alright.

I aggree with k-nine you should be jabbing in when you following your opponet.

And you did catch you opponet but then he would hold no and run or jab away. I wouldn't have follwed him so, wasting so much energy and getting hit by his shots that by you following him are now twice as hard.

Imo, when you're facing a runner, and it was clear he wasn't hitting you but jabbing you. I would slow down the pace see where he is going. Step back and let him follow you so then you can jump on him and punch him back.

You still need to work on head movement. But you were doing good.

ferocity
10-22-2007, 05:48 PM
Forgot to add. Your not as robotic as before. I used to box like that too, a bit stiff. But i got some advice from my boxing team-mate and pass it on to you. It helped me out. So you wont be so stiff and be more flexable and so your opponet doesn't know what your going to do next. Practice staying on the balls of your feet and step back and forth, side to side, practice this and you will be more flexable in the ring and those simple movements will get your opponet wondering what you are going to do next.

Super_Lightweight
10-22-2007, 06:01 PM
Here's round 2. Sorry.

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ferocity
10-22-2007, 06:22 PM
That sucks, ref didn't even give you a full count. I guess he didn't expect a young amature to be smart enough to take the full 9 seconds to recover from a shot. The ref was just too unexperianced.

You just got caught in the middle of an exchange. He caught you because you had your head up high. In the video you can see he stayed low so it'd be harder for you to hit him while he was swinging up and covering you sight with punchs. At that momoent you need to lower your head protect yourself and push him off of you. Or stay in close duck your head, bob and weave his punchs and just counter off of him. When your in close and have your head down but still aware and looking to see the punchs its going to be hard for a fighter to keep punching or landing on you. Chavez use to get reall close on a fighter and punch through the holes of his opponets offence.

You did good. I wouldn't be worry about this fight much. Rather look at it like a learning experiance.

I read that you lost 3 in a row. I haven't seen those fights, but i think it thats so, then you have to just practice more, and get better sparring.

Your opponet tricked you in this fight. He boxed the first round then all of a sudden came out bombs away. It was his way of trying to get you by surprise. Too bad you had a ref that didn't know what he was doing and didn't give you the full ten count.

Super_Lightweight
10-22-2007, 06:39 PM
Your opponet tricked you in this fight. He boxed the first round then all of a sudden came out bombs away. It was his way of trying to get you by surprise.

Haha you don't say? That was the biggest thing that shocked me during the fight. One round he ran, then at random he came on and tried to kill me. Next time I fight him I think I may just go right at him and try to KO him savagely, and get low and bob and weave.

We'll see.

FIGHTING_FLIP
10-22-2007, 10:30 PM
god damn, that black dude was good..how many fights you got? i say you should of jabbed more..his hands were low..though its easier said then done since you were nervous and took alot of energy from you..the more punches you throw in a fight the more chance you got in winning..

ferocity
10-23-2007, 12:32 AM
Haha you don't say? That was the biggest thing that shocked me during the fight. One round he ran, then at random he came on and tried to kill me. Next time I fight him I think I may just go right at him and try to KO him savagely, and get low and bob and weave.

We'll see.

Why should you change your style? Just add to it. Be aware of what the other fighter may do. When i boxed amature, i also kept aware that the other guy may all of a sudden explode on you. I've seen it happen in the pros a lot of times.

punchDrUnK MONK
10-23-2007, 12:36 AM
yo keep ur head up bro, that was a good ass fight, entertaining. u got nuttin to be ashamed of, look forward to coming back after what its taught u, u will come back stronger n smarter

DoctorKillJoy
10-23-2007, 11:09 AM
You're getting some great experience in these fights... You looked a bit nervous like you said which is understandable because the guy looked very fast and he was definitely doing some things to throw you off. Was he talking trash before the fight? I think you had the right idea to jump on him more aggressively and keep pressuring him if you fight again. Even if he keeps eluding you you could probably win rounds if you keep throwing. I thought you might have won that first round.

I know its hard to walk in punching against someone that quick, but I think a lot of pressure and maybe a bit of bullying on your part would have given you a better chance. He looked like he got a lot of confidence from seeing you nervous.

Were you mad about that stoppage or did you think it was reasonable?

punchDrUnK MONK
10-23-2007, 11:14 AM
ya that guy was a crafty boxer. good footwork... sometimes the only way to beat guys like that in amatuers is to stop walking in, and let them come to you. cuz walking in is what his style wants. he wants guys to walk in so he can be on his toes and dance and throw pitter patter shots with like half power.. its a great stratagy, but it can be beaten.

Super_Lightweight
10-23-2007, 11:17 AM
Nah he didn't talk trask before the fight but he did backflips after the fight in the ring with me still there. Yeah i thought I probably had the 1st round as well because he ran so much. But that's that. My uncle (who used to be an amateur and is now a pro ref) told me the guy was setting traps for me and I was falling for all of 'em. Usually I am not so nervous about fights. It's weird. There have been a few times where I have just been really calm. Even before this fight started I was nervous.

I thought the stoppage was ok. I was flustered and probably wasn't ready to fight the dog fight I needed to to win anyway. Althought I was planning on getting up at 8 or 9...instead I never got the chance.

I sat with my head straight up when he attacked instead of moving quickly laterally out of the way. Next time I think I will be quicker to step out when he charges straight in out of nowhere. I'm not terribly slow myself...he just moves his feet a lot and sets traps.

DoctorKillJoy
10-23-2007, 11:37 AM
Yeah... I'm not sure I saw all the traps but it looked like you would hesitate and look when he did something rather than just coming with your attack. You did look quick too but that kind of tension slows you down and makes you more reactive. You seemed to have some hesitation/ concern about missing too, which is understandable against an elusive fighter but also slows you down.

Thats lame about the backflips but oh well. Just out of curiousity do you know the records of this guy and the last guy you fought?

Super_Lightweight
10-23-2007, 11:59 AM
Nah I just know this guy had 16 fights to my 10, and the guy I lost to before that had 36 fights but had lost to the guy with 16 (in the video).

Names:

Steven, 139 lbs, 37 fights (lost to Curtis)
Curtis, 142 lbs, 17 fights
Brad, 147 lbs, 11 fights, 5-6 record

SpeedKillz
10-23-2007, 12:41 PM
u look good, good form on ur punches, but u def looked nervous. u looked a little tight and sometimes gunshy. from the vid, at some points it looked like u were flat footed and jus plodding around following the guy. maybe thats ur style i dono, but thats wut i saw. its all good tho man everyone loses in the AMs. take it as it is and come back stronger. u look like a good fighter though dude, props...

Super_Lightweight
10-24-2007, 12:19 PM
Thanks a lot.

rj_ct
10-24-2007, 02:24 PM
kinda off topic, but i really don't like how that other kid was fighting. i mean, he won, i can't be too critical, but the ams should be a place where you practice and work on your form and technique. that kid has quick hands for sure, but someone is gonna catch him somewhere along the lines.

i haven't had my first fight yet (hopefully soon). what do you some of you cats who've been fighting ams awhile think?

take this loss in stride, man. he was akward and switched up his style on you. no problem. next time you'll be ready for something like this.

Super_Lightweight
10-24-2007, 02:56 PM
I think he will keep fighting that way until someone brings him down. But he does hit hard and sharp. Maybe in the future I will be the man to bring him down.

I gotta get mean as ****.

Azteca
10-24-2007, 03:01 PM
Your uncles right. He set traps for you and just easily countered. He used the first round to gauge how good you were...

If you look in the first your are real one dimensional. The same feints and head movements over and over. Most experienced guys can take advantage of the smallest things. Use some more activity. Foot feints, hand feints, jabs, Make this guy work. You dont look overly fast, but not slow either. Work on your timing and you can get this guy overconfident. And beat him.

SUPERBAD23
11-01-2007, 07:38 PM
You cant take a punch,I have sparred with guys that weigh 70 lbs more than me and ive never been down.

rj_ct
11-01-2007, 08:11 PM
no way, man. i've sparred with heavyweights too and i haven't been down. but it's sparring, not a fight. you got big gloves on, more protection in the headgear, and you shouldn't be trying to knock the other guy out.

ask any pro, or experienced am and they'll tell you anyone can get dropped if you get hit right.

this kid looked good there and just got caught during an exchange.

chilly9876
11-02-2007, 07:31 AM
good fight and thanks for putting it up...
I think you were too flat footed, in the ams you should be up on your toes ready to move in n out..You also didnt seem like you were thinking in there..it's like a game of chess you gotta study him, just like he was studying you..You gotta try different things see what works, if one thing dont work try something else..
Also in the first round he wasnt bringing it but you weren't much more either, it was like the 1st round of a 12 round pro fight..this is the ams throw more punches..
Also you should have moved forward with your jab, if one jab wouldnt work double it,triple it..Also you should have looked for the uppercut, the dude looked like a sucker for an uppercut, personally i would have gone in crouched down hands high and charged in close (when ive cornered him) then gone for the uppercuts and maybe the occasional overhand right...anyway i could go on but dont wanna bore you guys..My advice in a nutshell is stay on your toes, dont be so upright in exchanges and think about what you're doing.

Super_Lightweight
11-02-2007, 06:40 PM
Hey I appreciate that. As for the guy who said I cannot take a punch...well, good for you if you feel that way. But, you are wrong. I have taken some crunching ones.

big paulie
11-03-2007, 09:35 AM
you got the basics down good, with this type of opponent i think you should of got up on your toes a bit more and tried to counter, relax a bit more and speed will come (like opp) easier said than done though, very tricky opponent

2swell k-wells
11-03-2007, 11:45 AM
give it up lil boy, this is gonna happen to you every time u box.......
sad but true..............fix it up princess.