Like I said.I wish I could of gotten the rest,but the memory filled up in 3min off of a 1gb sd card. ****in bullshit,but it was practically the same. 2nd round I was hurting him alot still,and busted his nose.In the third round I got a point took away. enjoy.:)

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if that the first round, and u were hurtin him in the second, unless u got KTFO in the third, how the hell did u NOT win that fight. u def got robbed dude. u look strong.

if that the first round, and u were hurtin him in the second, unless u got KTFO in the third, how the hell did u NOT win that fight. u def got robbed dude. u look strong.

Yeah man, that's bullshit.
You're definitely a beast though. Good luck on your next fight.

if that the first round, and u were hurtin him in the second, unless u got KTFO in the third, how the hell did u NOT win that fight. u def got robbed dude. u look strong.

You notice the bodyshot that they said was a lowblow.:lol1:

You notice the bodyshot that they said was a lowblow.:lol1:

yea i coudlnt really tell cuz my computer at home is whacked so the monitor is terrible, but that looked like a bodyshit to me man. oh well... u'll get em next time.

same thing happend to me last night in my fight. i hit the dude in the bottom rib, and the ref said it was on his hip and counted as a low blow. i didnt get robbed tho. i def won that fight and the judges knew that shit...

i cant get vids up on the net for some reason i tried with my other 2 fights but i couldnt. wutevre tho its all good ill jus keep winnin anyway...:boxing:

I thought you were just making excuses but you definitely won that fight if the later rounds were more of the same

you bend your back over too much when you try and shoulder & drive. If you didn't do that the ref probably wouldn't of said anything. But your bent over so much that it's obvious looking that your wrestling and trying to drive him back.

you bend your back over too much when you try and shoulder & drive. If you didn't do that the ref probably wouldn't of said anything. But your bent over so much that it's obvious looking that your wrestling and trying to drive him back.

He was doing the same,and holding my head,but its only amateur.I've just never experienced it like that.

his back is nowhere near the angle yours was. at one point your almost at a 90 degree angle pushing him into the corner. the only thing that really stood out to me as obviously wrong, tho.

you know the more weight you put on them and not on your legs is actually better in the long run, too, right? i'm all for leaning. i like to shoulder butt, personally, ha.. bad habit i know.

his back is nowhere near the angle yours was. at one point your almost at a 90 degree angle pushing him into the corner. the only thing that really stood out to me as obviously wrong, tho.

you know the more weight you put on them and not on your legs is actually better in the long run, too, right? i'm all for leaning. i like to shoulder butt, personally, ha.. bad habit i know.

oh oh then.

nice Uppercut...and sometimes I don't understand what fight the refs are watching

it's always going to be a cunt fighting at 150 if you're 5'5. unlucky man. that low blow was a load of shit.. even if it was below the belt it was at the side and no where near his meat and two veg.

Like I said.I wish I could of gotten the rest,but the memory filled up in 3min off of a 1gb sd card. ****in bullshit,but it was practically the same. 2nd round I was hurting him alot still,and busted his nose.In the third round I got a point took away. enjoy.:)

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you looked good verse,you should've tried the tyson,hook to the body then the uppercut.

versy how tall r u :lol1:

Very nice Vers, I am suprised as well judging by that round.

What is that place you fought at in san antonio called? Im up around Dallas.

Steven

yeah it was a good fight, you looked good. you OBVIOUSLY had the other guy worried/scared by his re-action to a belly-button shot/very iffy low-blow.

The shot did look like a bodyshot. Kindy looked borderline, which is a clean shot. I think the ref was on you because of the way you fight. You fight with your head first. So right away the ref is on notice to make sure you don't butt heads. But you did good. Looks like you defently should have won. Some advice to fighters you study, If i were you I would also watch J.C.Chavez, especially if you're going to be in close quarters with a fighter.

I am surprised he lasted three rounds. That uppercut was brutal, and the right to the body was nothing to sneeze at, either.

What he doesn't get, see, is that a good solid hook to the body makes your balls jump up into your throat. If your balls aren't big enough to reach, then it FEELS like a low blow. But really, it's just your body's way of preserving itself. You shouldn't have been called for that. :boxing:

Good stuff.

btw... was that your first ammy fight? if so, how long did it take you until you progressed from boxing gym to first ammy fight? just currrrrious

Well done versa for winning that fight, even though they somehow gave it to him.
You looked real mean in there, and great bodyshot to knock him down for the 1st time. If you could make a lower weight would you try? cause if you fought smaller men who were shorter then your punchs would proberly finsh the fight. :boxing:

Looked good there Versy, that was quite the brutal uppercut. Its the am's though and its all about getting the experience.

I dont know why he gave him a standing 8 but warned you to keep them up thats REALLY weird

its because he is obviously a decent ref. it was an iffy low blow, you couldn't tell. so he gave BOTH fighters the benefit of the doubt by giving the 8 count for vers and then warning vers for the other fighter's sake..

If it was a low blow, the ref followed the correct procedure. His mistake was ruling it a low blow, because it obviously wasn't.

I also think you were pushing the guy excessively, and the ref made the right call on that.

I know you hate the am's, especially since you can't seem to get a W (which it definitely looks like you should have got this time), but one thing that is obvious, at least to me, is that you need more am fights before turning pro. The reason I say this is that it's obvious you need the experience of real fight situations. Even if the guys you're sparring are much better than the guys you're fighting, sparring will NOT give you the same experience, especially mentally. You're making so many mistakes that are easy to correct in sparring, but once you get in a fight, the mindset is different and that stuff goes out the window. You need to learn to 'relax' mentally and do the right things, instead of just rushing blindly in and crowding the guy to the point where you're crowding a lot of your own punches, which is what happens in this fight. Instead of getting into the right distance, where YOUR punches are most effective, you get too close, and end up wrestling and pushing the guy around.

You can do the right things physically, but you need the fight experience to be able to do them mentally in a fight as well.

You say that age doesn't matter, so taking the time to get more am fights (and the invaluable expericence they provide) should be no problem. It'll be well worth it in the long run. :)

versy how tall r u :lol1:

A TALL 5'5:)

Very nice Vers, I am suprised as well judging by that round.

What is that place you fought at in san antonio called? Im up around Dallas.

Steven

Ft Sam Houston Military base.

yeah it was a good fight, you looked good. you OBVIOUSLY had the other guy worried/scared by his re-action to a belly-button shot/very iffy low-blow.

It was more of an rib shot,its hard to see from that angle,but I specifically remember doing that shot. I think the other guy did some acting also,but shit happens.

The shot did look like a bodyshot. Kindy looked borderline, which is a clean shot. I think the ref was on you because of the way you fight. You fight with your head first. So right away the ref is on notice to make sure you don't butt heads. But you did good. Looks like you defently should have won. Some advice to fighters you study, If i were you I would also watch J.C.Chavez, especially if you're going to be in close quarters with a fighter.

The ref was on me alot more then just that round.He would give me weird looks when I was in the corner during break. They were telling me between rounds not to piss the ref off because alot of the judges are refs there selves.

I am surprised he lasted three rounds. That uppercut was brutal, and the right to the body was nothing to sneeze at, either.

What he doesn't get, see, is that a good solid hook to the body makes your balls jump up into your throat. If your balls aren't big enough to reach, then it FEELS like a low blow. But really, it's just your body's way of preserving itself. You shouldn't have been called for that. :boxing:

Good stuff.

Yeah he lasted the last 2 by holding me once I got in and tried to throw,and 2min, 3rounds wont dont it.:lol1: He was tired as hell because I kept hitting him with bodyshots whenever I could.

Well done versa for winning that fight, even though they somehow gave it to him.
You looked real mean in there, and great bodyshot to knock him down for the 1st time. If you could make a lower weight would you try? cause if you fought smaller men who were shorter then your punchs would proberly finsh the fight. :boxing:

I think I could make 141 for amateur.I just didnt try.I almost weighed in at 150 for the fight,and thats with eating and being on a 1200 calorie diet the whole time. I tried to gain more weight but I just gained 4 pounds at 155lbs.

If it was a low blow, the ref followed the correct procedure. His mistake was ruling it a low blow, because it obviously wasn't.

I also think you were pushing the guy excessively, and the ref made the right call on that.

I know you hate the am's, especially since you can't seem to get a W (which it definitely looks like you should have got this time), but one thing that is obvious, at least to me, is that you need more am fights before turning pro. The reason I say this is that it's obvious you need the experience of real fight situations. Even if the guys you're sparring are much better than the guys you're fighting, sparring will NOT give you the same experience, especially mentally. You're making so many mistakes that are easy to correct in sparring, but once you get in a fight, the mindset is different and that stuff goes out the window. You need to learn to 'relax' mentally and do the right things, instead of just rushing blindly in and crowding the guy to the point where you're crowding a lot of your own punches, which is what happens in this fight. Instead of getting into the right distance, where YOUR punches are most effective, you get too close, and end up wrestling and pushing the guy around.

You can do the right things physically, but you need the fight experience to be able to do them mentally in a fight as well.

You say that age doesn't matter, so taking the time to get more am fights (and the invaluable expericence they provide) should be no problem. It'll be well worth it in the long run. :)


Good advice.Thats what Jesse said.He said I just turned amateur in there because thats what I saw,and I was told just to keep punching.I saw the guy who I was facing literally 6 minutes before I fought,he was a tall ****er,but thats no excuse. I need to figure out how to relax myself more. My mind is what set it off. I just thought in my head,punch punch punch because it equals points.I did smother alot,another thing Jesse said.Because after the first round I hurt him with all the shots that I connected with that was mid-range.

What I need to also do is spar more of amateur style ppl.All the ppl at the new gym that I spar fight like a pro style.
Good advice once again.It was the same things I've been thinking,thanks.:)

Decapitating uppercut.... looked really devastating.

btw... was that your first ammy fight? if so, how long did it take you until you progressed from boxing gym to first ammy fight? just currrrrious

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My first fight was in March,before that I was boxing at a boxing gym 5 days out of the week almost all the time except maybe 30days,for 3 years. Thats why Im accustomed to that style instead of amateur.Its like an amateur trying to convert to a pro style,even though he's been fighting practically nothing but wild amateurs for 4 years.haha.

Sorry about earlier.I didnt see your question.

Decapitating uppercut.... looked really devastating.

I wish I would of put my weight behind it besides just an arm punch.Better luck next time for me.:)

you looked good in there man. you definitely took him out of his comfort zone.

i understand it's the ams and you have to protect each fighter, but so many refs are way too overly anxious to get in there and be a part of the action. they forget no one is there to see them.

the first am fight i saw was my cousin's from back in the day at the nj golden gloves finals. nobody except the judges thought he lost that fight. it's bullshit, but what can ya do? nothing else you can do except go back to the grind.

you looked good in there man. you definitely took him out of his comfort zone.

i understand it's the ams and you have to protect each fighter, but so many refs are way too overly anxious to get in there and be a part of the action. they forget no one is there to see them.

the first am fight i saw was my cousin's from back in the day at the nj golden gloves finals. nobody except the judges thought he lost that fight. it's bullshit, but what can ya do? nothing else you can do except go back to the grind.

You're right,nothing you can do or get mad about it.Just continue on.

took you 3 years to fight your first fight..?

took you 3 years to fight your first fight..?

:lol1: Yep. My old trainer kept telling me about pro fights I could take,and I didnt wanna take them.He rarely talked about amateur fights.So I just trained to get down the style I preferred.

Yeah man you got really wild. You are a lot more composed in sparring. You should do the same there. Either way, you looked good in that round. Just pure power.

Yeah man you got really wild. You are a lot more composed in sparring. You should do the same there. Either way, you looked good in that round. Just pure power.

They told me to throw alot of punches and I guess I took it the wrong way and the adrenaline. Composure is what I need to focus on.

Over-aggresive. That's the only problem I see. Aggresiveness is huge in Am fights, but there is a fine line between over doing it and perfect aggression.

Like you said, just get more composed and keep throwing as many punches. You'll be a force.

The "low blow" was bullshit. That looked right over the protector maybe a little on it.

Still can't see how you lost this fight..

Good job though Vers

you an ass, but oh well man. Even if they rob you ten times thats still experience, ten fights. Keep it up man, **** the amateurs just use it to get ready for the pros.

Good stuff Vers, U was robbed. That uppercut was sweet. :fing02:

ima try upload my fight where i got robbed, i think the judges should be selected better

All i'll say is for a little guy you try to stand to tall, that dude looked like he was getting stronger so i wish i could have seen the entire fight. But what i will say is your very technical as far as uppercuts go and leading with the jab, just keep to the fundamentals and you'll be alright bro. Good Luck for the future!

All i'll say is for a little guy you try to stand to tall, that dude looked like he was getting stronger so i wish i could have seen the entire fight. But what i will say is your very technical as far as uppercuts go and leading with the jab, just keep to the fundamentals and you'll be alright bro. Good Luck for the future!

He actually tired more as we went one,and held more and more.haha. I should of taken him out in the first,no excuses.

damn.....you lifted him up with the uppercut....LMFAO!!!!!! :lol1:..... i hope the body shotat least brke some ribs

I think he was jabbing you decently but it looked like you had the better of it. Your head movement is solid. I would say if your head movement was a little better, it could make a big difference. You gave him problems, but if your head moving was more Tyson-like (more active) then he would have been effed.

Cool.

No offense Versa, but you looked like shit. You had your moments were you had it all together and looked good, but for the most part, I just saw a lots of pushing and smothering your power. Also looks like you wacked him in the hip pretty good before the standing 8 count.

I was expecting more from you.

You may have been mauling him pretty good, but you were not landing very many clear scoring blows.

Id like to see you work on staying composed. You are really trying to force it to much, and your technique is looking sloppy because of it. I know you have much cleaner technical abilities than you showed in this fight, just work on showing them.

No offense Versa, but you looked like shit. You had your moments were you had it all together and looked good, but for the most part, I just saw a lots of pushing and smothering your power. Also looks like you wacked him in the hip pretty good before the standing 8 count.

I was expecting more from you.

You may have been mauling him pretty good, but you were not landing very many clear scoring blows.

Id like to see you work on staying composed. You are really trying to force it to much, and your technique is looking sloppy because of it. I know you have much cleaner technical abilities than you showed in this fight, just work on showing them.

Thats the root of it.Im usually composed,well always. When Im composed I pace the ring.This time I was rocking back and forth.Once my composure broke.It went to shit.

Also I did hit him in the the body.Its clear as day if you keep looking at it,plus I remember.

Thats the root of it.Im usually composed,well always. When Im composed I pace the ring.This time I was rocking back and forth.Once my composure broke.It went to shit.

Also I did hit him in the the body.Its clear as day if you keep looking at it,plus I remember.

why did your composure break

:drillserg

why did your composure break

:drillserg

I honestly have no clue. Its only broke probably 5 times since Ive been boxing. I know what I didnt do that I do to keep it calm.I just gotta do it next time.

Looking at the round, I don't see how you could have lost.

But you do have to remember that in the Am's those taps to the forehead count just as much as that nice uppercut you threw that rocked his ass. It's kind of unfortunate but that's the rules of the game in the amateurs.

And on the flipside one of my boys clearly out-landed his opponent in his last fight and the decision still went the other way. We were from out of state so maybe that had some influence.

Looking at the round, I don't see how you could have lost.

But you do have to remember that in the Am's those taps to the forehead count just as much as that nice uppercut you threw that rocked his ass. It's kind of unfortunate but that's the rules of the game in the amateurs.

And on the flipside one of my boys clearly out-landed his opponent in his last fight and the decision still went the other way. We were from out of state so maybe that had some influence.

The taller guy will always have a huge advantages over me.Especially when Im about to get in,and some of those jabs their throwing lands when I try to get in.(points)I just stay composed and gotta try to knock them out in the first.Problem solved.

yo wusup v

i watched the vid, u looked great man. i dont got to get into details u clearly know what ur doin in there. u took it to him, he was kinda a weird style seemed to look to make u look sloopy. good job tho i enjoyed the vid. whats ur weight

that uppercut nearly lifted him off the ****ing floor!

i actually said WOW out loud when i saw that land

You had to have won that fight. You were dominating that ****er, and if the other 2 rounds were what you say they were, that's a bullshit decision. I thought only bullshit decisions existed in the realm of high profile professional bouts, but this has opened up my eyes.

Next time you get him in the ring break his ****ing ribs, let's see them deny you your victory then. ;)

...Wow, nice punch to the ding ding. The chick filming goes "he hit him in a low place". Those tall thin guys are your kryptonite. I agree with some of the posters who have said that you would fair better as a pro. No head gear, and plenty of time to take your opponent out and avoid a controversial bullshit decision.

You had to have won that fight. You were dominating that ****er, and if the other 2 rounds were what you say they were, that's a bullshit decision. I thought only bullshit decisions existed in the realm of high profile professional bouts, but this has opened up my eyes.

Next time you get him in the ring break his ****ing ribs, let's see them deny you your victory then. ;)

Naw it's bullshit one here too.I mean I wouldnt bitch and complain if it was a close fight,but it wasnt.haha. I was the aggressor the whole time,and I was told I hurt him whenever I connected practically.Then he would hold,lots of holding.haha.

Next fight I have(hopefully next month) I'll be more composed and see if I can take them out fast,because obviously even with blocked punches and slipped punches.It still counts.:lol1:

...Wow, nice punch to the ding ding. The chick filming goes "he hit him in a low place". Those tall thin guys are your kryptonite. I agree with some of the posters who have said that you would fair better as a pro. No head gear, and plenty of time to take your opponent out and avoid a controversial bullshit decision.

Naw I hit him in the ribs.It hurt him,and the ref gave him a standing 8,but was obviously confused because he told me to keep it up.:lol1: I hate tall ppl.:lol1:

Don't think that just because you are short you can't be a good amateur. You have to throw a lot of punches when your on the inside and you'll do well. It is all about volume.

I've watched the video 10 times now and I still can't see how that bodyshot was low....His ass got hurt by it and he pulled a fast one trying to act like it was low. I'm surprised he didn't go all out and pull a "Judah", rolling around on the mat and shit.

that uppercut the rocked him then he swung and just dropped , was that ruled a knockdown ? cuz if it was how is it even possible that you lost ? at the very worst it would havve been a draw . even if he had won the last 2 rounds .

that uppercut the rocked him then he swung and just dropped , was that ruled a knockdown ? cuz if it was how is it even possible that you lost ? at the very worst it would havve been a draw . even if he had won the last 2 rounds .

because in the amatures a knockdown counts just as much as a jab

wow really ? i didnt know the rules in amateur were so different :S

so the amateurs really are ALL ABOUT volume punches i guess.

wow thats dumb.

damn you hurt that guy twice....vicious uppercut, wow.

Don't think that just because you are short you can't be a good amateur. You have to throw a lot of punches when your on the inside and you'll do well. It is all about volume.

Yeah I do,but Im mostly a bodypuncher when real close inside.I heard those arnt really counted in amateur really. I'll figure out something.

I've watched the video 10 times now and I still can't see how that bodyshot was low....His ass got hurt by it and he pulled a fast one trying to act like it was low. I'm surprised he didn't go all out and pull a "Judah", rolling around on the mat and shit.

Yeah he did.A real good acting job.It didnt help that his corner was yelling low blow neither.:lol1:

wow really ? i didnt know the rules in amateur were so different :S

so the amateurs really are ALL ABOUT volume punches i guess.

wow thats dumb.

Yeah it is dumb practically.I dont fight like a volume puncher.I better get used to it now though.

when's your next fight?

when's your next fight?

Im going back on my diet on Monday in hopes I can get one next month.

ooo, my man rocked him wit a uppercut to the jaw. Yea i got robbed before,

I almost knocked the dude out the ring in round 2, stopped him for two counts in round 3, and his nose was bleedin a lot. So unless he murdered me in round 1, which he couldnt have because I never got stopped for any counts, i should of won, but hey its the amateurs, it happens.

yep a total robbery

Good uppercut