Im experimenting with this style.. how would i block a left hook??

Im experimenting with this style.. how would i block a left hook??


I'm also experimenting with the philly shell, I find it encourages me to be more mobile on my feet.

I'd say check out any video of James Lights Out Toney or Pretty Boy Floyd, both are very good at using the philly shell. I think you basically bring your rear hand from in front of your face to the side of your head to block the left hook.

Let us know how you get on with this style bro!!!

yea ur right hand comes to the side of ur head to block the hook, but make sure to move after that or u'll get tagged with a right.

Yeah,

The thing with the philly shell is that it requires quick reflexes.

Yeah,

The thing with the philly shell is that it requires quick reflexes.

thats an understatement. i like to think i am fast in hands, feet, and upperbody movement, and i have much trouble with the philly shell.... and i'm from philly lol....

Im experimenting with this style.. how would i block a left hook??

do what Brunson did to me, instead of blocking when the guy comes in with the left hook shoot a right hand and it will land perfect, it will beat the left hook and you wont be in the same position to get hit with the left hook... trust me.:nonono:

when you say the "Philly shell style" is that the same as the sholder roll style?

when you say the "Philly shell style" is that the same as the sholder roll style?

somewhat, but not really. Toney rolls his shoulders either way and its like all the punches roll off his shoulders. The philly shell is covering your chin with your left shoulder basically. Thers lots of differant variations on it, Mayweather and Holyfield have modified versions.

Ive accidently come up with my own variation, out of reflex I end up bringin my arm elbow straight up, fist down and I duck my head behind it, the right hands land on my elbow everytime, but it leaves my body and ribs WIDE open and I need to stop it.

do what Brunson did to me, instead of blocking when the guy comes in with the left hook shoot a right hand and it will land perfect, it will beat the left hook and you wont be in the same position to get hit with the left hook... trust me.:nonono:

dude, dont take this the wrong way, but he shot a right hand at u when u threw the hook cuz he's obviously alot faster than u r, so he knew he could beat u with that punch. if ur in the philly shell defense, and someone fast throws a left hook at u and u throw the right hand back, u got a better than good chance of gettin hit first, cuz of the sideways angle ur body is on, by the time the right hand lands, u will have already been hit with the left hook, due to ur body at a "more to the side" angle and the twist when u throw the right, it will take too long, unless ur superfast. tyrone wont do that in a real fight, trust me.

Im experimenting with this style.. how would i block a left hook??



It is very easy to watch a video of Floyd Mayweather and think to yourself: "I can do that!" The fact is you can't. If you could, you wouldn't have to ask that question. Still to traditional boxing skills. May not be a cool but it is safer and easier.

It is very easy to watch a video of Floyd Mayweather and think to yourself: "I can do that!" The fact is you can't. If you could, you wouldn't have to ask that question. Still to traditional boxing skills. May not be a cool but it is safer and easier.
I dont see why a reply like that was needed.

Obviously the guy doesnt know how to do it, and maybe he cant do it. He is trying to learn how thats the whole point of this thread. You dont know the guy so how can you tell him what he can and cant do?

If everyone had the mindset of "this guy who is top at what he does so that means i cant do it too", then i doubt people who watch and are inspired by top athletes would ever pick up the sports they represent as theyd have it in their head that they could never be as good as their idols.

If Mahummad Ali had a trainer like you who told him not to fight like Sugar Ray Robinson when he was learning how to box its quite possible he wouldnt be called one of the greatest boxers of all time by many people. We might not have even knew who he was.

If Tyson and his trainer werent so heavily influenced by Jack Dempsey would he have been the same fighter?

Long story short dont tell someone to give up before theyve tried, and its not your place to tell someone not to try in the first place.

The Philly shell is all about timing and anticipation. You have to know what your opponent is going to throw before they even know what they are going to throw.

You have to know what combinations they like to throw, and anticipate and move with every punch. Its not really that physically demanding, but you cant just do it, it requires you to sharp, quick thinking, and good at predicting behavior.

If you cant predict what they are going to throw, you will get caught out of position, and you will be ****ed. You also need good balance. Alot of people try it, and they roll with the punch but they are off balance, so then when they block something they stumble.

It really is alot more complex than it looks to implement effectively.

Just to clarify, Mayweather uses a modified Philly Shell. Evander Holyfeild is an example of a true Philly shell, as is Archie Moore.

In the true Philly shell you block the left hook by raising your right elbow up and shoulder up to cover your face, like you are blocking the the sun or wiping sweat of your forehead with your bicep. This is usually accompanied with rolling to the left to diminish the impact of the punch should it land. Watch Archie Moore vs Rocky Marciano.

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dude, dont take this the wrong way, but he shot a right hand at u when u threw the hook cuz he's obviously alot faster than u r, so he knew he could beat u with that punch. if ur in the philly shell defense, and someone fast throws a left hook at u and u throw the right hand back, u got a better than good chance of gettin hit first, cuz of the sideways angle ur body is on, by the time the right hand lands, u will have already been hit with the left hook, due to ur body at a "more to the side" angle and the twist when u throw the right, it will take too long, unless ur superfast. tyrone wont do that in a real fight, trust me.


actually you annoying ****in cunt, if you would have read the thread about it he was about 4 feet away and I faked a right jumped in with the hook, I was flyin in when he landed the right. Also everybody knows a straight punch lands before a looping punch you nitpicking mother ****er.

Thanks for the replies ive never tryed this style but ima give it a shot i was just wondering how the **** would you block the hook oh and potatoes you ****in clown keep your insecurities to yourself p.s ive never sat down and watched any floyd fights hes not my type of fighter.

actually you annoying ****in cunt, if you would have read the thread about it he was about 4 feet away and I faked a right jumped in with the hook, I was flyin in when he landed the right. Also everybody knows a straight punch lands before a looping punch you nitpicking mother ****er.

whoa easy there tiger no need for name callng dude, i was jus pointing out how what you said didnt make sense, i musta misread it yo my bad no need to get all bent out of shape. i was jus sayin wut i thought about it so no one gets confused. and comparing your speed to a professional fighters speed is a little off target animal, so there-in lies my case of my post being correct, and urs seeming to be off target, but again, if i misunderstood, i apologize, but i have had more AM fights, and ALOT more gym fights than u, and based on MY experiences, i am right, and u r wrong. sorry if this offends u, didnt mean to piss u off, we got no beef. u dont gotta dis me like that bro. if u explained urself calmly it woulda been jus the same as u callin me a cunt and a nitpicking mother****er, which i am not :nono: . lets be friends!!! :kiss: :kiss: .....

The Philly shell is all about timing and anticipation. You have to know what your opponent is going to throw before they even know what they are going to throw.

You have to know what combinations they like to throw, and anticipate and move with every punch. Its not really that physically demanding, but you cant just do it, it requires you to sharp, quick thinking, and good at predicting behavior.

If you cant predict what they are going to throw, you will get caught out of position, and you will be ****ed. You also need good balance. Alot of people try it, and they roll with the punch but they are off balance, so then when they block something they stumble.

It really is alot more complex than it looks to implement effectively.


Don't say things like that, it upsets Grizzle.

Just to clarify, Mayweather uses a modified Philly Shell. Evander Holyfeild is an example of a true Philly shell, as is Archie Moore.

In the true Philly shell you block the left hook by raising your right elbow up and shoulder up to cover your face, like you are blocking the the sun or wiping sweat of your forehead with your bicep. This is usually accompanied with rolling to the left to diminish the impact of the punch should it land. Watch Archie Moore vs Rocky Marciano.

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The so called "Philly Shell" style didn't seem to deter Rocky Marciano.

whoa easy there tiger no need for name callng dude, i was jus pointing out how what you said didnt make sense, i musta misread it yo my bad no need to get all bent out of shape. i was jus sayin wut i thought about it so no one gets confused. and comparing your speed to a professional fighters speed is a little off target animal, so there-in lies my case of my post being correct, and urs seeming to be off target, but again, if i misunderstood, i apologize, but i have had more AM fights, and ALOT more gym fights than u, and based on MY experiences, i am right, and u r wrong. sorry if this offends u, didnt mean to piss u off, we got no beef. u dont gotta dis me like that bro. if u explained urself calmly it woulda been jus the same as u callin me a cunt and a nitpicking mother****er, which i am not :nono: . lets be friends!!! :kiss: :kiss: .....

Im tired of you talkin down to me, its like youre followin me around naggin me like a *****, you're all *****es... talkin **** but sayin "dont be offended or anything" **** that.

The so called "Philly Shell" style didn't seem to deter Rocky Marciano.

Because obviously, a light heavy with 20 years and 176 fights under his belt come fight time is suppose to be fresh, and dominate Rocky Marciano.

Im tired of you talkin down to me, its like youre followin me around naggin me like a *****, you're all *****es... talkin **** but sayin "dont be offended or anything" **** that.

u tell him :P

Im tired of you talkin down to me, its like youre followin me around naggin me like a *****, you're all *****es... talkin **** but sayin "dont be offended or anything" **** that.

dont talk ****, and people wont talk **** back.
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ok i'll stop following u around on a PUBLIC BOXING FORUM.... thats wut i joined for ya know... but ill stop jus for u pal :ugh:

dont be a douchbag man we dont need more internet beef here. settle down and take ur criticism like a man. ur a fighter, aint u? get used to it then killer!:argue:

dont talk ****, and people wont talk **** back.
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ok i'll stop following u around on a PUBLIC BOXING FORUM.... thats wut i joined for ya know... but ill stop jus for u pal :ugh:

dont be a douchbag man we dont need more internet beef here. settle down and take ur criticism like a man. ur a fighter, aint u? get used to it then killer!:argue:


I wasnt talking ****, I offered a suggestion and you started talking ****. Everything I do here gets hated on. I make a thread about my gear I get hated on, I make a thread about my shelf I get hated on, I make a with videos of me training I get hated on, I make a thread about sparring a legit prospect and I get hated, I offer a solution to the philly shell I get hated on. Im tired of it. I can take criticism, but you and everybody else here criticize everything I do and eachtime give me that bull**** "dont take offense" **** you. If yall wanna hate on everything I do then dont read my ****in threads mother ****ers. Its annoying, I use to think this site was a gold mine, now I realize its a bunch of hatin ass *****es with mother ****ers who put up videos of themselves shadowboxin in a kitchen for 30 seconds and have the nerve to hate on me. Theres maybe two or three of you serious and the rest are jokes. I dont get any respect from yall even though the truth is Id demolish damn near all of you.

Don't say things like that, it upsets Grizzle.
Theres a difference between someone giving advice about the style(shawn), and someone telling someone not to bother trying because you think they cant do it(you).

I wasnt talking ****, I offered a suggestion and you started talking ****. Everything I do here gets hated on. I make a thread about my gear I get hated on, I make a thread about my shelf I get hated on, I make a with videos of me training I get hated on, I make a thread about sparring a legit prospect and I get hated, I offer a solution to the philly shell I get hated on. Im tired of it. I can take criticism, but you and everybody else here criticize everything I do and eachtime give me that bull**** "dont take offense" **** you. If yall wanna hate on everything I do then dont read my ****in threads mother ****ers. Its annoying, I use to think this site was a gold mine, now I realize its a bunch of hatin ass *****es with mother ****ers who put up videos of themselves shadowboxin in a kitchen for 30 seconds and have the nerve to hate on me. Theres maybe two or three of you serious and the rest are jokes. I dont get any respect from yall even though the truth is Id demolish damn near all of you.

i'm one of them bro, so settle the **** down and stop bein a god damn baby. i aint hatin on u. if i see a thread worth postin in, im gonna post my opinion. not my fault that i post my thoughts in ur threads. if u dont input, dont make the thread. u've made decent threads before in the past and i have given u ur due, but it aint like im singlin u out to hate on u. i was sayin my views on it, which are different than urs. so the **** wut. if u dont like it, tough. its a forum brother, get used to it. ur not some amazing resource for boxing knowledge dude, so if u say **** that more experienced people think is stupid, ur gonna criticized unless u make a valid point for ur arguments, which u havent done thus far, so let it go. u were jus wrong in what u said, and i was inputting my opinion so that whoever read ur posts didnt get confused and **** up in the gym...