Mga kababayan, magandang madaling araw:


I have spoken to you many times from this office, where many erroneous
decisions have been made which grievously affected the fate of our nation.
Each time, I did so to discuss some matter of national interest, even if it
meant that in a number of times I would have to go back on my word.


In the same manner and time that you were awakened by my proclamation in the
wee hours of dawn on June 24, 2004 as President for a six-year term, I now
rouse you to listen to what I feel is the best way, notwithstanding what my
good sense and better judgment tell me, to deal with the crises that have
gripped our nation.


In all the decisions I have made, I have always tried to do what I imagined
Pope John Paul II advised me to do when I asked him whether it would be a
legal and moral act to unseat a constitutionally elected President.
Throughout the questionable period of that succession - and until now - I
have always felt it was my duty to make every possible effort to complete
the term of office to which the overwhelming majority of people in Pampanga,
Cebu, Iloilo, Bohol and the quaint town of Tipo-Tipo in faraway Basilan have
elected me.


In the past few weeks, however, it has become evident - by way of ringer
tones, surveys, media broadcasts and rantings of columnists and
fair-weather, treacherous allies - that I no longer have any credibility to
justify continuing that effort. As long as there was such credibility, I
felt I could tough it out and invoke a constitutional process which could be
moderated by my allies in Congress.


But with the disappearance of that credibility, I now believe that the
constitutional process would not serve to get me off the hook. There is no
longer a need for this fragmented national unity of our Strong Republic to
be prolonged.


I would have preferred to wage a battle to the finish, whatever the personal
agony it would have involved me and my family. My only husband, his brother,
and my favorite son, have urged me to do so, even as they have exiled
themselves to avoid being smeared when the fecal matter hits the
air-conditioner.


I do not blame the deserted feeling that I have on my allies in Congress,
who have been silent in defending me from allegations of malfeasance,
misfeasance and nonfeasance. There have just been too many termites in my
administration who know nothing but take advantage of me. My spokesman is a
very loyal man, and I would not either condemn him for his zeal in
protecting me from the slings of outrageous fortune, or deride him for being
too naive not to know the difference between an original disc and a copy.
And so the interest of our nation must always come before any personal lapse
of judgment and show of bravura.


From the enlightened calls I have received from past presidents, ineffective
vice presidents, resigned Cabinet members, congressional leaders, officers
of the military and members of the Philippine National Police (PNP) not to
mention an irate actress, I have concluded that the Gloria-Garci tapes have
broken the back of our patient, ever-suffering nation and goad it into a
rampage of bloodshed and fraternal strife.


I have never been anybody who gives up easily, as probably most of you will
remember when I decided to break a promise not to run for the presidency. To
vacate the presidency before my term is finished is repugnant to every
impulse in my physical and mental structure. But I must put the benefit of
the Philippines first. You need a full-size President to work with a
full-time Congress, particularly at this time with problems of poverty,
unemployment, corruption and a myriad more.


The allegations of jueteng have not even reached as far as the door to the
Palace. The veracity of the contents of those tapes that everyone salivated
on would implicate me have never been proved. I must admit, though, that the
corruption that enveloped my administration, that gave us the distinction of
being the second most corrupt nation in Asia, has stymied my effectiveness
to govern.


To continue to fight for my personal vindication from all these would
totally absorb my time and attention, in a period when my entire focus
should be on the greater issues of an expanded value-added tax that was
intended to be a palliative, but you have just been too eager for results of
instant prosperity.


True, I won by only just over 1,000,000 votes over Fernando Poe Jr., just as
a phonepal in Intramuros had assiduously calibrated and predicted, but it
was victory well-deserved nonetheless. Fact is, I have been in power very
much longer than anyone had ever predicted, and it must be God that kept me
afloat all these years. I will say it again: The Lord brought me to the
presidency, and now that He has spoken through the people, I am leaving it
at His bidding.


I can only blame all these on myself. I have been much too proud to admit to
any imperfection, but I cannot but make such an admission now.


I could go on and on. But now I find it impossible to govern. I have a
disapproval rating of 64 percent, the highest ever for any President. My
political base has been significantly eroded. Members of Congress, including
those in the Liberal Party whom I pampered, have expressed their desire for
me to go. People are marching in the streets. The military, the protector of
the people, have spoken. The members of the PNP have said they do not want
bloodshed. Just as easily they came to my succor in 2001, they are now
saying my time is up.


I must admit I have lost my mandate to govern; Zion is far from restored.


At high noon today, I shall resign from the presidency. My Vice President,
who shall speak after me, shall also resign effective at the same time. You
all know he is ill-prepared for the weight of responsibility and the art of
presidential governance. Instead, he shall go back to a chore he does best -
reading the news scribbled on an idiot board. The process of constitutional
succession under Section 11, Article VII of the Constitution shall be then
followed.


History will judge me better than now. With no rancor in my heart, with my
head held high, I know I have done my best.


God bless the Philippines!

:eek: tutoo ba to? teka makapagbukas ng TFC

It reads like it goes back to some time ago...

There's nothing in it about the latest scandals and only talks of the tapped phone conversation with an election commissioner.

Just the same, good stuff!

:eek: tutoo ba to? teka makapagbukas ng TFC

Sana nga! Pero wala sa news. Dapat front page iyan kung totoo.

Pare ko, kung sino ka man:

You are clearly out of line. This thread is the height of irresponsibility, to say the least, and has no place in a respectable boxing forum such as this. You are entitled to whatever political opinion you believe in, but you should exercise better judgement and refrain from reckless actions that will only serve to create confusion among our kababayans.

Did you think you were being clever or funny?

From where I stand, I can see that you are definitely misguided.

Pare ko, kung sino ka man:

You are clearly out of line. This thread is the height of irresponsibility, to say the least, and has no place in a respectable boxing forum such as this. You are entitled to whatever political opinion you believe in, but you should exercise better judgement and refrain from reckless actions that will only serve to create confusion among our kababayans.

Did you think you were being clever or funny?

From where I stand, I can see that you are definitely misguided.

just posted it.....and i am not misguided...it's far more worst if you see President Bush being being ridiculed......or Erap....maybe i am just clever, not funny..LOL..i am not creating confusion....am I??...wow....hehehehe.....my thread created confusion....PEACE BRO...

Pare ko, kung sino ka man:

You are clearly out of line. This thread is the height of irresponsibility, to say the least, and has no place in a respectable boxing forum such as this. You are entitled to whatever political opinion you believe in, but you should exercise better judgement and refrain from reckless actions that will only serve to create confusion among our kababayans.

Did you think you were being clever or funny?

From where I stand, I can see that you are definitely misguided.

this thread should be remembered then.....hahahaha....the only thread who created confusion among our kababayans...I am sorry guys.....But honestly I hate Arroyo as much as I hate j-------cc....Peace BRO...

bai kadyo tabangi ko diri........naa ba koy sala..? ingna lang kung naa kay undang nako ug post...

just posted it.....and i am not misguided...it's far more worst if you see President Bush being being ridiculed......or Erap....maybe i am just clever, not funny..LOL..i am not creating confusion....am I??...wow....hehehehe.....my thread created confusion....PEACE BRO...
Hey Bro,

I can see that you are already a respected old hand in this forum, samantalang ako ay comparatively newbie lang. Pero I feel that I have to comment on your thread. Kung tungkol sa confusion, pls. take note of the first three replies. It's easy to see naman that your thread is a joke, but initially, it will confuse people.

True. Bush gets a regular bashing in the US media, pero hindi natin dapat gayahin ang mga Kano. Kung tutuusin, mas uncivilized sila kaysa sa atin. Pls. don't get me wrong. I am not exactly a fan of PGMA, but the problems in our society and politics are so deeply entrenched, kahit sino ay mahihirapan talaga after the Erap episode. For the sake of stability, let's support the good things that her administration is struggling to do. The economy is on the rise, the peso is going strong. Pagkatapos ng term ni Gloria at may mga ebidensya sa mga kasalanan niya ay puwede na siyang kasuhan dahil wala na siyang immunity. Ok ba? Peace din, BRO.

Hey Bro,

I can see that you are already a respected old hand in this forum, samantalang ako ay comparatively newbie lang. Pero I feel that I have to comment on your thread. Kung tungkol sa confusion, pls. take note of the first three replies. It's easy to see naman that your thread is a joke, but initially, it will confuse people.

True. Bush gets a regular bashing in the US media, pero hindi natin dapat gayahin ang mga Kano. Kung tutuusin, mas uncivilized sila kaysa sa atin. Pls. don't get me wrong. I am not exactly a fan of PGMA, but the problems in our society and politics are so deeply entrenched, kahit sino ay mahihirapan talaga after the Erap episode. For the sake of stability, let's support the good things that her administration is struggling to do. The economy is on the rise, the peso is going strong. Pagkatapos ng term ni Gloria at may mga ebidensya sa mga kasalanan niya ay puwede na siyang kasuhan dahil wala na siyang immunity. Ok ba? Peace din, BRO.

ok bro..got your point...mas uncivilized nga mga kana dito...hehehehe...naghuhubad pa sa harapan ko nyahahahahahaha..
cge bro enjoy na lang dito sa BS...mabuhay tayong lahat......lalo na mga OFW..mga nakalimutan na bayani...huhuhuhuhuhu.....

Hey Bro,

I can see that you are already a respected old hand in this forum, samantalang ako ay comparatively newbie lang. Pero I feel that I have to comment on your thread. Kung tungkol sa confusion, pls. take note of the first three replies. It's easy to see naman that your thread is a joke, but initially, it will confuse people.

True. Bush gets a regular bashing in the US media, pero hindi natin dapat gayahin ang mga Kano. Kung tutuusin, mas uncivilized sila kaysa sa atin. Pls. don't get me wrong. I am not exactly a fan of PGMA, but the problems in our society and politics are so deeply entrenched, kahit sino ay mahihirapan talaga after the Erap episode. For the sake of stability, let's support the good things that her administration is struggling to do. The economy is on the rise, the peso is going strong. Pagkatapos ng term ni Gloria at may mga ebidensya sa mga kasalanan niya ay puwede na siyang kasuhan dahil wala na siyang immunity. Ok ba? Peace din, BRO.

Here we go again, it is not the Peso going strong. It is the US$ losing its value against most currencies in the world. What economy are you talking about? Hindi naman tumataas ang sahod ng mga mangagawa, pero ang presyo ng mga bilihin patuloy na tumataas.
Kung bumubuti man ang ekonomiya, hindi yan nararamdaman ng mga kapatid nating mahihirap.

ok bro..got your point...mas uncivilized nga mga kana dito...hehehehe...naghuhubad pa sa harapan ko nyahahahahahaha..
cge bro enjoy na lang dito sa BS...mabuhay tayong lahat......lalo na mga OFW..mga nakalimutan na bayani...huhuhuhuhuhu.....
Ok lang, Bro.
Pareho lang tayo OFW, pero tumigil na ako sa pagiging seafarer. There comes a point na nakaka-sawa na at kailangan na mag-enjoy ng mga bagay-bagay sa sariling bayan. Ingat na lang saan ka man mapunta.

Mabuhay Philippines!!!

Here we go again, it is not the Peso going strong. It is the US$ losing its value against most currencies in the world. What economy are you talking about? Hindi naman tumataas ang sahod ng mga mangagawa, pero ang presyo ng mga bilihin patuloy na tumataas.
Kung bumubuti man ang ekonomiya, hindi yan nararamdaman ng mga kapatid nating mahihirap.
True, the US$ is performing badly but let's not overlook that the peso is doing much better than the other currencies in the region. Investor confidence is growing stronger for the country kaya nga very lively ang trading ngayon sa Philippine Stock Exchange.

Kaya lang, Pare ko, gumaganda man ang takbo ng ekonomiya natin ay hindi naman ito nararamdaman instantly ng mga tao. It takes time for the good effect to trickle down to the ordinary man on the street. Hindi porke gumanda na ang economy ay magkakaroon na rin kaagad ng pambili ng pagkain ang lahat nang mamamayan. Ang isang epekto nito ay madadagdagan ang mga available na trabaho, pero kung ang isang tao ay hindi rin magtratrabaho at magsisikap ay mananatili siyang gutom. Peace, Bro.

True, the US$ is performing badly but let's not overlook that the peso is doing much better than the other currencies in the region. Investor confidence is growing stronger for the country kaya nga very lively ang trading ngayon sa Philippine Stock Exchange.

Kaya lang, Pare ko, gumaganda man ang takbo ng ekonomiya natin ay hindi naman ito nararamdaman instantly ng mga tao. It takes time for the good effect to trickle down to the ordinary man on the street. Hindi porke gumanda na ang economy ay magkakaroon na rin kaagad ng pambili ng pagkain ang lahat nang mamamayan. Ang isang epekto nito ay madadagdagan ang mga available na trabaho, pero kung ang isang tao ay hindi rin magtratrabaho at magsisikap ay mananatili siyang gutom. Peace, Bro.


what other currencies yun, bro?

True, the US$ is performing badly but let's not overlook that the peso is doing much better than the other currencies in the region. Investor confidence is growing stronger for the country kaya nga very lively ang trading ngayon sa Philippine Stock Exchange.

Kaya lang, Pare ko, gumaganda man ang takbo ng ekonomiya natin ay hindi naman ito nararamdaman instantly ng mga tao. It takes time for the good effect to trickle down to the ordinary man on the street. Hindi porke gumanda na ang economy ay magkakaroon na rin kaagad ng pambili ng pagkain ang lahat nang mamamayan. Ang isang epekto nito ay madadagdagan ang mga available na trabaho, pero kung ang isang tao ay hindi rin magtratrabaho at magsisikap ay mananatili siyang gutom. Peace, Bro.

So how much time does it take for the effect to trickle down to the ordinary man on the street? Pilit kasi na pinalalabas na the Peso is gaining strength eh artificial lang yan. Mapapatunayan mo ang kung talagang lumalalakas ang pera base sa purchasing power niya. Yun bang nabibili mo ng 100 Pesos three years ago eh 80 Pesos na lang ngayon? Hindi ba baligtad pa rin?

Kung natatandaan mo gumanda (daw) ang palitan ng Peso at Dollar more than two years ago, pero hanggang ngayon wala namang epekto sa aming mahihirap yan. At sa aming mga OFW negative pa nga ang effect nyan eh. Five years ago pag nagpadala kami ng $100 ang matatanggap ng pamilya namin ay P5,500, ngayon P4,400 na lang.

Hindi ko pa din maintinhan kung ano ang kinalaman ng paglakas ng Peso (kuno) sa pagbuti ng ekonomiya, baka kaya mong ipaliwanag sa amin para naman maintindihan namin maigi.

what other currencies yun, bro?

Good question! Seven years ago, pareho lang ang value ng Thai Baht at Peso, ngayon malayo na ang diprensya. Ang Hongkong Dollar dati ay P3.20, ngayon magkano na? :hijacked:

what other currencies yun, bro?
Hindi ako ekonomista kayat hindi ko kayang ipaliwanag ang lahat sainyo pero heto ang isang excerpt sa column ni Mr. Alex Magno na lumabas sa Phil. Star ngayong araw lang na ito:

"The optimistic forecast, at the start of this year, was for the exchange rate to hold at P46:$1. That was subsequently revised to P45:$1. This week, a number of investment houses have readjusted their projections. Some of them are looking at an exchange rate of P40:$1 by the end of this year.

If that happens, the peso will likely be the best performing currency in the whole world."

In simple terms, mas malaki ang value ng peso natin kaysa ibang currency. For the same number of pesos that we had before, mas maraming dollar ang kapalit na pambili natin ng mga ina-angkat na goods katulad ng machineries, construction and medical equipment, at marami pang iba. Ang pera na matitipid ay puwedeng ipambayad ng gobyerno natin sa mga foreign debts para mabawasan ang interest na ipinapatong dito. Of course, the strong peso will have adverse affect on some sectors of the country such as exporters of native products and beneficiaries of dollar remittances from abroad. But we cannot satisfy everyone.

To ispayder:
As to how long the trickle down effect will reach the man on the street: Your guess is as good as mine. Like I said above, I am not an economist but I have enough sense to know that it takes time. And that it takes a stable government to achieve the positive results. Kung nagmamahal ang presyo ng mga bilihin, ang isang dahilan nito ay inflation, hindi ang masamang takbo ng ekonomiya. Inflation affects every economy in the world, even in the most developed countries.

i am a lurker here in this forum, but cant help myself post a reply on the arguments above.

STRONG PESO

True enough a weak dollar contributed to the strong performance of our currency, but its not the only reason why the peso is currently trading at 44.
other factors include economic expansion, a lot of foreign investments are coming in specially in mining and construction, services(Business process outsourcing), investments in stocks. because of the strong peso our external debt went down by 300 billion pesos this year alone compared when the peso is around 46 to a dollar. just imagine if the peso will trade around 40 to a dollar that would mean another 600 billion pesos less on our debt. The amount save would then be use to build infra project in the countryside.(buildings, roads etc)

ECONOMY (trickle down effect)

Our GDP grew at a faster rate than expected(7.3 1st half), the trickle down effect will be felt by the masa if we can sustain this strong trend, but to much politics will spoil what ever our economy gain in the 1st half. To test the trickle down effect, try going out and look for skilled workers in construction sector and you have a hard time looking for carpenter, plumber, foreman, mason etc, who is not employed right now, the reason is because of the current start of the propety boom. Dont you guys notice that there are a lot of construction going on around the metro. If the economy is not performing well companies in the property and construction will not expand at the phase they are doing right now cause they will just incurr huge amount of losses. This is just one of the sector currently aggresive expanding, the other sector is in mining, investment made for the year amounted to around 3 to 5 billions usd. BPO created a lot of employment this year. Our agri sector is the one underperforming because of the current weather disturbances(drought).

So let us be patient guys and allow our leaders to work to improve the lives of the so called masa. To much politics and bickering will lead us nowhere.

PEACE TO ALL BRO.

FYI GUYS (source: ing7.net.)

Property sector initiated as 'overweight' at Credit Suisse

MANILA, Philippines -- Credit Suisse has initiated coverage on the Philippine property sector with an 'overweight' rating as low interest rates and strong demand should sustain the robust growth of real estate companies.

An overweight rating signifies that a stock is expected to outperform either its industry, sector or, even, the market altogether.

We find that the sector is ideally positioned for strong growth, with the country's positive macro indicators heavily stacked in its favor," Credit Suisse analyst Gilbert Lopez said in a research note released Thursday.

The property sector's growth also relies on the bullish prospects of the office sector, largely dictated by demands from business process outsourcing (BPO) companies, and the retail sector.

i am a lurker here in this forum, but cant help myself post a reply on the arguments above.

STRONG PESO

True enough a weak dollar contributed to the strong performance of our currency, but its not the only reason why the peso is currently trading at 44.
other factors include economic expansion, a lot of foreign investments are coming in specially in mining and construction, services(Business process outsourcing), investments in stocks. because of the strong peso our external debt went down by 300 billion pesos this year alone compared when the peso is around 46 to a dollar. just imagine if the peso will trade around 40 to a dollar that would mean another 600 billion pesos less on our debt. The amount save would then be use to build infra project in the countryside.(buildings, roads etc)


Thanks for your explanation, Bro.
Nakatulong nang malaki yan. :fing02:

Peace to all.

i am a lurker here in this forum, but cant help myself post a reply on the arguments above.

STRONG PESO

True enough a weak dollar contributed to the strong performance of our currency, but its not the only reason why the peso is currently trading at 44.
other factors include economic expansion, a lot of foreign investments are coming in specially in mining and construction, services(Business process outsourcing), investments in stocks. because of the strong peso our external debt went down by 300 billion pesos this year alone compared when the peso is around 46 to a dollar. just imagine if the peso will trade around 40 to a dollar that would mean another 600 billion pesos less on our debt. The amount save would then be use to build infra project in the countryside.(buildings, roads etc)

ECONOMY (trickle down effect)

Our GDP grew at a faster rate than expected(7.3 1st half), the trickle down effect will be felt by the masa if we can sustain this strong trend, but to much politics will spoil what ever our economy gain in the 1st half. To test the trickle down effect, try going out and look for skilled workers in construction sector and you have a hard time looking for carpenter, plumber, foreman, mason etc, who is not employed right now, the reason is because of the current start of the propety boom. Dont you guys notice that there are a lot of construction going on around the metro. If the economy is not performing well companies in the property and construction will not expand at the phase they are doing right now cause they will just incurr huge amount of losses. This is just one of the sector currently aggresive expanding, the other sector is in mining, investment made for the year amounted to around 3 to 5 billions usd. BPO created a lot of employment this year. Our agri sector is the one underperforming because of the current weather disturbances(drought).

So let us be patient guys and allow our leaders to work to improve the lives of the so called masa. To much politics and bickering will lead us nowhere.

PEACE TO ALL BRO.

I hope you understand that most of the buyers of real estate propeties nowadays are OFWs. They are not the common employees or office workers in our country. So if ever there is a boom in the property market, it is not an indicator that the economy is getting better. ( good for the economy though).

The strong Peso is not an indicator that the economy is getting better too. Plain and simple law of supply and demand taking its course. Too much Dollar coming in, not much demand.

I hope you understand that most of the buyers of real estate propeties nowadays are OFWs. They are not the common employees or office workers in our country. So if ever there is a boom in the property market, it is not an indicator that the economy is getting better. ( good for the economy though).

The strong Peso is not an indicator that the economy is getting better too. Plain and simple law of supply and demand taking its course. Too much Dollar coming in, not much demand.
You have an over simplistic view of things:
OFWs send a lot of dollar remittances home; therefore the peso is strong but only artificially so; therefore the economy is not really getting better; therefore the government is only telling lies.

I hate to say this, but some people fail to see a good thing even if it is staring them right before their faces! Also, a booming property market is a clear indication of a robust economy, not the other way around.

True, the dollar remittances of OFWs are a big help, but not the only reason for the strong peso. One of the reasons is the influx of new investments into our country, attracted by sound government policies and sincere efforts at house cleaning. The E-Vat is a prime example of a very unpopular but vitally important measure to ensure investor confidence. Remember that these investors are not motivated by love for us, neither by friendly relations, nor a genuine desire to help us. They are motivated solely by the prospect of making profits, which is possible only in a stable environment with a positive looking economy. They are not fools to risk their money in a country with a stagnant economy. Yet they are coming here now in record numbers and with a bullish outlook. If this is not an indication of an improving economy, I don’t know what is.

As a former OFW myself, I feel for you and understand where you are coming from. But as Filipinos, would we rather have a weak peso and see it fall beyond P60 to the dollar? Surely this would make the recipients of your remittances at home happy. They could then buy more with their monthly allotments. If that happens, would you say then that the economy is improving, just because you could stretch your money so much further?

You have an over simplistic view of things:
OFWs send a lot of dollar remittances home; therefore the peso is strong but only artificially so; therefore the economy is not really getting better; therefore the government is only telling lies.

I hate to say this, but some people fail to see a good thing even if it is staring them right before their faces! Also, a booming property market is a clear indication of a robust economy, not the other way around.

True, the dollar remittances of OFWs are a big help, but not the only reason for the strong peso. One of the reasons is the influx of new investments into our country, attracted by sound government policies and sincere efforts at house cleaning. The E-Vat is a prime example of a very unpopular but vitally important measure to ensure investor confidence. Remember that these investors are not motivated by love for us, neither by friendly relations, nor a genuine desire to help us. They are motivated solely by the prospect of making profits, which is possible only in a stable environment with a positive looking economy. They are not fools to risk their money in a country with a stagnant economy. Yet they are coming here now in record numbers and with a bullish outlook. If this is not an indication of an improving economy, I don’t know what is.

As a former OFW myself, I feel for you and understand where you are coming from. But as Filipinos, would we rather have a weak peso and see it fall beyond P60 to the dollar? Surely this would make the recipients of your remittances at home happy. They could then buy more with their monthly allotments. If that happens, would you say then that the economy is improving, just because you could stretch your money so much further?

When things get complicated-simplify. I am not as smart as you but I am more optimistic than you. What good things are you talking about? Good for who? Bottom line is this:

1. We have a strong Peso therefore the economy is getting better.
2. The property market is booming, therefore the economy is getting better.

This is what the government propagandist are trying to say all along, which is both wrong. It simply does not follow. Non Sequitur.

"You have an over simplistic view of things:
OFWs send a lot of dollar remittances home; therefore the peso is strong but only artificially so"

Where did you learn this kind of thinking? Again, this is argumentum non sequitur!

"You have an over simplistic view of things:
OFWs send a lot of dollar remittances home; therefore the peso is strong but only artificially so"

Where did you learn this kind of thinking? Again, this is argumentum non sequitur!
That is not my line of thinking but yours. You said this yourself in your post yesterday @ 11:49 AM or have you forgotten? Here’s an excerpt from your posting to help refresh your memory:

“So how much time does it take for the effect to trickle down to the ordinary man on the street? Pilit kasi na pinalalabas na the Peso is gaining strength eh artificial lang yan.”

You are in complete denial of the present strong performance of the peso. Then later on insist that a strong peso does not necessarily mean a better economy.

When things get complicated-simplify. I am not as smart as you but I am more optimistic than you. What good things are you talking about? Good for who? Bottom line is this:

1. We have a strong Peso therefore the economy is getting better.
2. The property market is booming, therefore the economy is getting better.

This is what the government propagandist are trying to say all along, which is both wrong. It simply does not follow. Non Sequitur.

I hate to correct you, but you probably meant to say, "I am more pessimistic than you". You see, I maintain that our economy is performing very well and that things are looking up. On the other hand, you are saying that it is nothing but government propaganda, and refuse to see the good things happening around us.

I have no more time discussing this with you as I have better things to do. So, all I can say to you is, "Go in peace, and may you someday glimpse some light in your world of gloom."

I hate to correct you, but you probably meant to say, "I am more pessimistic than you". You see, I maintain that our economy is performing very well and that things are looking up. On the other hand, you are saying that it is nothing but government propaganda, and refuse to see the good things happening around us.

I have no more time discussing this with you as I have better things to do. So, all I can say to you is, "Go in peace, and may you someday glimpse some light in your world of gloom."

BROS.....peace to all...sorry for starting this thread....

we should go in peace as one pinoy brothers....we´ll just pray that all things go well for us pinoys...san man sa mundo.....we should remember that we filipinos are one of the smartiest, intelligent, industrious, and patient races in the world.. adios......and the one of the bests too in making babies....waaaa hehehehehe....

BROS.....peace to all...sorry for starting this thread....

we should go in peace as one pinoy brothers....we´ll just pray that all things go well for us pinoys...san man sa mundo.....we should remember that we filipinos are one of the smartiest, intelligent, industrious, and patient races in the world.. adios......and the one of the bests too in making babies....waaaa hehehehehe....
Ok lang, Bro. No need to be sorry for anything.

Nagpa-paliwanagan lang naman tayo dito at nagbibigay ng mga opinion natin. Nobody is perfect and we all make mistakes time and again. Ang pagpuna sa mga kamalian ay hindi masama kung ang hangad ay mapabuti tayo pare-pareho at mapaganda ang samahan ng mga Pilipino. Pero dapat i-respeto natin ang opinion ng bawat isa. Kung saan masaya ang isang tao, bastat hindi siya nakaka-perwisyo ng iba ay OK lang. It is a big mistake to impose our opinions or beliefs upon others. :nono:

This forum should not be about who is the smarter or better man. A man may be smart or clever, yet express a dumbass opinion. His being smart does not necessarily make him right.

Amen to the other things you said, though. :hail:

As to being the best at making babies, …....

I don’t know. I only have three. How about you?

This is a good and a very intelligent discussion.

Pero kung pwede land sana, plain and simple English na lang [jok lang po].

I feel the sentiments of a lot of people especially the OFWs. May point nga naman iyong isa na, $100 used to go a long way dahil mas mahal ang palit. But now, bumaba na, pero bilihin tumaas pa rin. Everybody really is affected by the P/$ fluctuation. Pero ang nakikinabang lang kapag tumataas na ang Peso are the big businesses especially those who imports raw materials. Maganda sana kung ipasa nila sa atin ang effect in way of pagbaba ng presyo ng finished products nila.

The problem of a common man is, we often look at the effect of the economy on a personal basis. Kung may mabuti bang naidulot sa atin personally. We often overlook the effect of it for the country as a whole. We now are the second leading tech support/call center worldwide. This only came about during the late 90s. So in a way, there were plentry of jobs crated. Biruhin ninyo, kung wala mga iyon, dagdag pa libu-libo sa jobless.

Sorry, dagdag lang, Peace.

Good writing talent wasted on stuff like this.

it's not wrong to base your opinion on your personal experience. anyway ganun naman talaga ang opinion di ba?

@ispayder: talaga lang nabaon na ang pinas sa utang kaya sabihin man ni gma ang mga successes na ito ay wala pa ring epekto particularly to those who's living under the poverty line. marami pa rin namang naghihirap talaga. an employee who's earning 20k a month ay di pa rin satisfied because of high prices sa mga pagkain, transpo, tubig, ilaw, at bahay (kung nag-re-rent).

billion of dollars ang utang natin sa world bank at di rin pwedeng hindi umutang kasi maraming projects ang pilipinas ang kailangan ng malaking pondo at kung sa sariling revenues lang natin kukuhanin ay hindi magkakasya.

ang corruption talaga ang pumapatay sa pilipinas. yung mga projects for example, kung yung pondo ay ibubulsa at mapupunta lang dun sa mga kurakot at tiwaling mga ahensya ng gobyerno, ala talagang idudulot na maganda at lalo lang tayong mababaon sa utang.

may point din si ispayder, on the other hand, gma shld clean her government first. doing good and trying to make it look good ay hindi sapat. marami pa rin sa kanyang mga kaalyado ang di gumagawa ng tama.

.....we should remember that we filipinos are one of the smartiest, intelligent, industrious, and patient races in the world.. adios......and the one of the bests too in making babies....waaaa hehehehehe....
My apologies, Tol, for a very short memory. Sabi ko na nga ba na-encounter na kita earlier. Nag-back read ako at nakita ko, ikaw nga pala yong may-anak na kambal! Binati pa nga kita! How are your twins?

Erase na yong doubts about the best at making babies.
Born on 07-07-07. Hirap gawin nun, no?
You are one of the best !!! :fing02:

My apologies, Tol, for a very short memory. Sabi ko na nga ba na-encounter na kita earlier. Nag-back read ako at nakita ko, ikaw nga pala yong may-anak na kambal! Binati pa nga kita! How are your twins?

Erase na yong doubts about the best at making babies.
Born on 07-07-07. Hirap gawin nun, no?
You are one of the best !!! :fing02:

THANKS..THEY ARE DOIN FINE.....GETTING BIGGER AND HEAVIER NOW..HEHEHE...

Pare ko, kung sino ka man:

You are clearly out of line. This thread is the height of irresponsibility, to say the least, and has no place in a respectable boxing forum such as this. You are entitled to whatever political opinion you believe in, but you should exercise better judgement and refrain from reckless actions that will only serve to create confusion among our kababayans.

Did you think you were being clever or funny?

From where I stand, I can see that you are definitely misguided.


is that you ignacio buni???:owned2: :owned2: :owned2:

is that you ignacio buni???:owned2: :owned2: :owned2:
I take that as a joke, Bro. Ha ha ha!

Advise you to read some of my other posts, tol, para medyo magkaroon ka ng konting idea. Nice to meet you.