Whats your opinion on them?

Personally i think the comment in my signature hits the nail square on the head.

Whats your opinion on them?

Personally i think the comment in my signature hits the nail square on the head.

ummm i think its accurate for that nite
not so much for them now
they must have learned from their mistake
oscar for running
tito for not being able to cut off the ring right
if they do have a rematch i go with oscar to out box him once again
but if he says hes gonna bring the fight to him
and make it fight
then this time ill believe him
i pick oscar over tito

Whats your opinion on them?

Personally i think the comment in my signature hits the nail square on the head.


My opinion on them away from their fight is....

Trinidad is a pure fighter. He got to where he is based solely on the fact that his style is what most people want to see. He built his reputation over time.
He seeks the KO, & does so with skill, & some of the most beautifully thrown punches thrown by a fighter.
He's been called one-dimensional. If he is, he is the single most successful one-dimensional fighter in history.



Oscar DeLaHoya is an extrememly talented fighter....who has continually come up short, & delivered DISAPPOINTING performances in his biggest fights.
So much of his career has been about CALCULATION....from the early padding of his record & reputation with victories over smaller, older fighters....to the fact that he has, in his bigger fights, CALCULATED his fight plan far too much. He's been too tentative, rarely explosive.
His fights with Trinidad, Whitaer, Quartey, Hopkins , & Mosley (#2)....were exercisies in TEDIUM that his fans call "boxing". His fans would MOCK this type of tentative display if it was put out by someone besides Oscar.

He seems to fight only when he senses an serious advantage.

I thought he showed balls by facing Hopkins....but then he went & quit on the worst-looking body shot ever.


Basically....Trinidad is the better bang for your buck.
Guaranteed NO BULL**** from Tito.
Can't say the same for Oscar.

Oscar did enough to win the fight. He just didn't wanna take the chance of getting KTFO cuz he knew that Tito had that power. But even with the running, I had him ahead in the cards. He should have just kept boxing, wtf was the big deal?!?

oscar:skipped over so man great fighters because they were alot or risk..with lil money..so he fought guys that didnt deserve good money shots...he didnt fight margarito-mayorga-winky-etc...alot others..and then when he fights hopkins he has the nerve to say it for the legacy..where was this oscar when he didnt fight so many great fighters...but the thing that pisses me off the most is...he (he even said it himself) relaxed the last rounds of tito fight like a *****..i mean dammit u get payed so much...PEOLPE PAY TO SEE YOU..i mean its ur job...we work hard for money and u only work what 3 times a year..and ur gonna breeze threw the last rounds...i am sorry but f**k you oscar for that...so i was glad to see him go down..cuz no matter what he does he will never reach the leonard level he wanted so badly and good because alot of other deserve that more then him..look at nard...fought everyone including tito for crap money

Tito:didnt skip anyone fought a lot of people for lil money before becoming great...but he's a *****...for a lot of reason..for one he played that stupid i am gonna retire to get more money in a return crap...then he's fighting welterweights and thinks he's great.i mean i liked the old tito..this new ***** ass tito is just annoying...and then there the whole thing .well u know..he styles his eyebrows :D lol..thats some good stuff....so he better step it up..but if he fight spinks..i will be glad to see nard ko him a second time

all in all..

respect tito more in general..and oscar..well...i liked seeing him on the ground in pain...i am done :D

there fight:oscar won which i hate to say..but the round in which he fades..he ran like a ***** so we will never know..at this weight i think tito eats him alive

Oscar is one of the better fighters of this era but you have to look at his biggest fights and he lost all but one that being against Vargas. Tito is also one of the best fighters of his era but was shown to be one dimensional. Tito has won all of his big fights except one that being against Hopkins. As far as thier fight goes I would say neither put on a great performance. Oscar moved more than he fought and Trinidad followed more than he fought. I never knew why Oscar decided to try and put on a "boxing clinic" instead of trying to fight the way he always did before the Trinidad fight. Tito's legs and chin were weak at 147 and had Delahoya come to fight he could of beaten Tito convincingly. Tito though made his two biggest opponents change thier game plans. Delahoya and Hopkins both chose to box and move against Tito more than they have done in thier entire careers. No matter how many times people ***** and complain about the decision it will always be written in the books as "Trinidad W12 Delahoya" and that is what people look at most. I thought Oscar won a close fight but there was no boxing clinic that night. Nobody robbed him, Delahoya gave that fight away. Even HBO's Harold Lederman had it 114-114 and it's been well documented that HBO is Oscar's Network.

The most successful one-dimensional fighter is................

So much of his career has been about CALCULATION....from the early padding of his record

oscar:skipped over so man great fighters because they were alot or risk..with lil money..so he fought guys that didnt deserve good money shots

Hands down two of the dumbest godamn comments ever made on any boxing message board.

Say whatever you want about DLH, but one thing no one can ever question about him is his resume. Only Holyfield has a better one.

oscar:skipped over so man great fighters because they were alot or risk..with lil money..so he fought guys that didnt deserve good money shots...he didnt fight margarito-mayorga-winky-etc...alot others..and then when he fights hopkins he has the nerve to say it for the legacy..where was this oscar when he didnt fight so many great fighters...but the thing that pisses me off the most is...he (he even said it himself) relaxed the last rounds of tito fight like a *****..i mean dammit u get payed so much...PEOLPE PAY TO SEE YOU..i mean its ur job...we work hard for money and u only work what 3 times a year..and ur gonna breeze threw the last rounds...i am sorry but f**k you oscar for that...so i was glad to see him go down..cuz no matter what he does he will never reach the leonard level he wanted so badly and good because alot of other deserve that more then him..look at nard...fought everyone including tito for crap money

Tito:didnt skip anyone fought a lot of people for lil money before becoming great...but he's a *****...for a lot of reason..for one he played that stupid i am gonna retire to get more money in a return crap...then he's fighting welterweights and thinks he's great.i mean i liked the old tito..this new ***** ass tito is just annoying...and then there the whole thing .well u know..he styles his eyebrows :D lol..thats some good stuff....so he better step it up..but if he fight spinks..i will be glad to see nard ko him a second time

all in all..

respect tito more in general..and oscar..well...i liked seeing him on the ground in pain...i am done :D


ya u rite i like how u hate tito:)

but oscar does not work 3 times a year
he trains hard for them fights

but true he shouldn't have ran away
he said he wont next fight
n he will beat trinidad........again.....and so will tito

Oscar is one of the better fighters of this era but you have to look at his biggest fights and he lost all but one that being against Vargas. Tito is also one of the best fighters of his era but was shown to be one dimensional. Tito has won all of his big fights except one that being against Hopkins. As far as thier fight goes I would say neither put on a great performance. Oscar moved more than he fought and Trinidad followed more than he fought. I never knew why Oscar decided to try and put on a "boxing clinic" instead of trying to fight the way he always did before the Trinidad fight. Tito's legs and chin were weak at 147 and had Delahoya come to fight he could of beaten Tito convincingly. Tito though made his two biggest opponents change thier game plans. Delahoya and Hopkins both chose to box and move against Tito more than they have done in thier entire careers. No matter how many times people ***** and complain about the decision it will always be written in the books as "Trinidad W12 Delahoya" and that is what people look at most. I thought Oscar won a close fight but there was no boxing clinic that night. Nobody robbed him, Delahoya gave that fight away. Even HBO's Harold Lederman had it 114-114 and it's been well documented that HBO is Oscar's Network.


Oscar fought lot of good fighters what u talkin about

he destroyed gatti,julio caesar chavez, pernell whitaker, ike quartey, and we all know he destroyed tito and they robbed oscar against mosley

Whats your opinion on them?

Personally i think the comment in my signature hits the nail square on the head.

Oscar ran because he was tired from giving a 9 round boxing lesson to Tito. Oscar made Trinidad look ordinary. I have watched that fight many times and every time the score is the same: Oscar-8 rounds, Tito-3 1 draw(1st round)

Oscar ran because he was tired from giving a 9 round boxing lesson to Tito. Oscar made Trinidad look ordinary. I have watched that fight and almost every time the score is the same: Oscar-8 rounds, Tito-3 1 draw(1st round)


EXACTly man

and they gave tha last round to oscar when he didnt throw on god damn punch

they robbed oscar!!!!

Oscar fought lot of good fighters what u talkin about

he destroyed gatti,julio caesar chavez, pernell whitaker, ike quartey, and we all know he destroyed tito and they robbed oscar against mosley

Those were not the biggest fights of his career. Tito, Mosley 2, Vargas and Hopkins were the biggest fights of his career and he is 1-3 in those fights. He did fight alot of good fighters but I was talking about his big fights. Well Chavez was a pretty big fight but he wasn't much of a risk by the time Oscar fought him. How did Oscar destroy Tito? Oscar won the fight in my eyes but no one was destroyed in that fight. Like I said neither put on a great performance and I still say it's Oscar's fault for giving that fight away. I also thought Oscar beat Mosley the 2nd time but he didn't do it convincingly to say it was a robbery.

Whats your opinion on them?

Personally i think the comment in my signature hits the nail square on the head.

Insert "Odd Couple" joke here

Those were not the biggest fights of his career. Tito, Mosley 2, Vargas and Hopkins were the biggest fights of his career and he is 1-3 in those fights. He did fight alot of good fighters but I was talking about his big fights. Well Chavez was a pretty big fight but he wasn't much of a risk by the time Oscar fought him. How did Oscar destroy Tito? Oscar won the fight in my eyes but no one was destroyed in that fight. Like I said neither put on a great performance and I still say it's Oscar's fault for giving that fight away. I also thought Oscar beat Mosley the 2nd time but he didn't do it convincingly to say it was a robbery.

1-3 officially, but to fans who know boxing, not just fans of his, he is 3-1. he easily beat Trinidad, outboxed and beat Mosely, obviously ko'd Vargas, and lost to Bernard.

1-3 officially, but to fans who know boxing, not just fans of his, he is 3-1. he easily beat Trinidad, outboxed and beat Mosely, obviously ko'd Vargas, and lost to Bernard.

Yeah going by my score cards Oscar would be 3-1 in those fights but what I'm saying is history won't look at from the fans point of view. History will look at it by the record books. Even the Ring Magazine put Trinidad ahead of Oscar all time in thier 80 greatest fighters issue. I think they are just about even as far as history goes.

they need to fight again to settle the argument

dude oscar is good..but dont use gatti or chavez as a example..plz..gattis want his weight and chavez was wasted and old...vargas-tito- where his best wins..

pernell and quartey where close...he good but he hasnt been great and wont be at middleweight cuz he's not a true MW
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please ur an idiot..u think oscar went straight to hopkins..and didnt fight winky or margarito..cuz of the pride..no!..it was the money..and he got beat..and got hella moneyout of the fight and plus all the money us fans paid...he's sitting pretty and ur defending him jose

please ur an idiot..u think oscar went straight to hopkins..and didnt fight winky or margarito..cuz of the pride..no!..it was the money..and he got beat..and got hella moneyout of the fight and plus all the money us fans paid...he's sitting pretty and ur defending him jose

Listen im a huge Margarito fan, but lets be real here.

Margarito and Mayorga didn't even come onto the scen until 2003 by that time DLH had already left the Weltwereight division. Mayorga when he KO'ed Forrest, Margarito when he knocked out Andrew Lewis.

Margarito was just beaten by Santos and Mayorga was outboxed by Corey Spinks two fighters who are nowhere near as talented as DLH.

As for Winky Wright. He had lost every single time he had ever stepped up. Until the Mosley fight he had a reputation for coming up short in his big fights. Losses to Vasquez, Simon and Vargas. Plain and simple he hadn't done anything to earn a shot at that time.

I know you dont like him, but there are just some fighters who resumes you cannt attack and he's one of them. Dont forget about all his work early at 134 and 140 either.

135lbs
Jon Jon Molina
Jesse James Lieja
Genaro Hernandez(undeafeated World Champ)
Rafeal Ruelas

140lbs
Miguel Angel Gonzalez(Undeafeated World Champ)

147lbs
Pernell Whitiker(Top ten p4p at the time)
Ike Quartey(Top ten p4p at the time)
Felix Trinidad(Top ten p4p at the time)
Shane Mosley 2x(Top ten p4p at the time)

154lbs
Feranndo Vargas

160lbs
Felix Sturm
Bernard Hopkins(Top ten p4p at the time)

I mean how on earth can anyone knock that resume and say he has avoided anyone?

By the way dont forget a DLH/Tszyu fight at 140 was a done deal and Tszyu lost to Vince Phillips putting an end to that fight.

Also a DLH/Terry Norris fight at 154 was going to happen when Arum took Norris from King. Norris got knocked out by Kieth Mullins putting and end to that fight.

right now if they both retire from boxing..wich legacy will be better..Tito like a KO artist with only one lost to a fighter that many ppl believe is one of the greatest middleweights of all time, that return from a 2 year retirement to beat mayorga in what many ppl call the fight of the year. Oscar will be remember as a great boxer that lost twice to Mosley..that many ppl like me believe that lost to Felix Sturm, and that like many ppl like me think that took the easy way out against Bernard..:cool:

right now if they both retire from boxing..wich legacy will be better..Tito like a KO artist with only one lost to a fighter that many ppl believe is one of the greatest middleweights of all time, that return from a 2 year retirement to beat mayorga in what many ppl call the fight of the year. Oscar will be remember as a great boxer that lost twice to Mosley..that many ppl like me believe that lost to Felix Sturm, and that like many ppl like me think that took the easy way out against Bernard..:cool:

Tito has got momentum on his side...he should beat DLH, but not
without going the distance ...

right now if they both retire from boxing..wich legacy will be better..Tito like a KO artist with only one lost to a fighter that many ppl believe is one of the greatest middleweights of all time, that return from a 2 year retirement to beat mayorga in what many ppl call the fight of the year. Oscar will be remember as a great boxer that lost twice to Mosley..that many ppl like me believe that lost to Felix Sturm, and that like many ppl like me think that took the easy way out against Bernard..:cool:

*rolleyes*

DLH will be remembered as a man who really beat Tito and beat Mosley in the rematch.

Tito will be as remmebered as entertaining, but not even being competative in his two biggest fight and running away after suffering his first loss.

I respect ur opinion Jose..Lets see if DLH-Tito II and Nard-Tito II happens..those fights might change everything. :cool:

*rolleyes*

DLH will be remembered as a man who really beat Tito and beat Mosley in the rematch.

Tito will be as remmebered as entertaining, but not even being competative in his two biggest fight and running away after suffering his first loss.


Jose....

You are completely overrating Oscar's effectiveness in his fight with Trinidad.
If you weren't an Oscar-lover, you would be all over his timid performance in the biggest non-heavy fight ever.

& what I said about Oscar padding his early record...
You gotta have a wide mouth for all that sack.....doubting what I said.
Delusional.