View Full Version : Dibb title Shot & Green vs Traver


brently1979
10-08-2007, 12:34 AM
I found this page on FOX sports if anyone is interested.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,22527107-5009280,00.html

OBOMBER
10-08-2007, 02:18 AM
Cheers Mate

Dick-Sucker
10-08-2007, 02:43 AM
I seriously think Danny Green is going to knock Tarver out early. That should send shock waves around the US. Thanks for the story Brently mate.

brently1979
10-08-2007, 02:59 AM
Any time Fellas.

moochi
10-08-2007, 07:00 AM
green vs tarver next april...........that can't be right!..when is this fight scheduled?

mgkirkpatrick
10-08-2007, 07:15 AM
nah moochie article says that tarver is organising a fight against dawson in april after the green defense on dec 1

moochi
10-08-2007, 07:44 AM
thanks for that shef utd...i am hoping that tarver is underestimating green............tarver was very average and mediocre in his last fight against mediocre...i hope the same tarver turns up...never liked him man, for some reason i just hate the guy..he reminds me of an earthworm.

KoolWillie
10-08-2007, 09:42 AM
In greens last 2 fights he lived up too his name the green machine, if he goes into the tarver fight with that attitude i think ge can pull it off

Brunswick Assassin
10-08-2007, 11:06 PM
I obviously do want Danny to win, but you look at his last two fights against Paul Murdoch and Otis Griffin and do you really go wow? I just hope Danny can get Tarver to fight in Oz cos it will be a much tougher assignment for him in US. Tarver has fought more world-rated opposition so will have had better experience than Danny. Green should have fought a world top 10 opponent to get a hard hit out before Tarver. His endurance is suspect cos he really looked a mess after Sean Sullivan fight apologising after losing! LOL

OBOMBER
10-08-2007, 11:37 PM
Tarver is sloppy these days, and Danny is fighting well at light heavy.

I think Tarver has better skills, Though Danny has more power and a better chin than Tarver. I also agree the fight should be in oz but i cant see Tarver leaving the US.

brently1979
10-09-2007, 12:08 AM
I obviously do want Danny to win, but you look at his last two fights against Paul Murdoch and Otis Griffin and do you really go wow? I just hope Danny can get Tarver to fight in Oz cos it will be a much tougher assignment for him in US. Tarver has fought more world-rated opposition so will have had better experience than Danny. Green should have fought a world top 10 opponent to get a hard hit out before Tarver. His endurance is suspect cos he really looked a mess after Sean Sullivan fight apologising after losing! LOL

This fight has been made in the US, I think New York they said.

KoolWillie
10-09-2007, 01:53 AM
hopfully danny pulls it off he's worked so hard too get where he is espicialy after the mundine loss that wouldve wrecked him mentally

mgkirkpatrick
10-09-2007, 02:23 AM
i would lvoe for danny to win this fight.

but i still think the smart money is with tarver..

i mean when has danny ever won a fight when stepping up..

brently1979
10-09-2007, 02:40 AM
i would lvoe for danny to win this fight.

but i still think the smart money is with tarver..

i mean when has danny ever won a fight when stepping up..

I like that fact that your a realist kirkpatrick. I agree with you, I'm going for Traver in this one.

Dick-Sucker
10-09-2007, 02:50 AM
Mind says Tarver, Heart says Green.

I have another question.

If Green beats tarver (unlikely), will their be an immediate rematch with Mundine or will Mundine pursue Kessler? and would the rematch be at light heavy or SMW? Its hyperthetical but interesting.

brently1979
10-09-2007, 03:09 AM
Mind says Tarver, Heart says Green.

I have another question.

If Green beats tarver (unlikely), will their be an immediate rematch with Mundine or will Mundine pursue Kessler? and would the rematch be at light heavy or SMW? Its hyperthetical but interesting.

Green can't make Super Middle any more and Mundine said he wouldn't go up to Light heavy.
It would be the same result but Mundine would probably do more damage this time.

If he beats Traver, he should have an Adios bout in Perth against some bum and call it a day.

Dick-Sucker
10-09-2007, 03:17 AM
Green can't make Super Middle any more and Mundine said he wouldn't go up to Light heavy.
It would be the same result but Mundine would probably do more damage this time.

If he beats Traver, he should have an Adios bout in Perth against some bum and call it a day.

Yeh that seems the logical thing to do, and to keep whatever is left of his legacy in tact.

brently1979
10-09-2007, 03:30 AM
Yeh that seems the logical thing to do, and to keep whatever is left of his legacy in tact.

Yeah I hope so. He can walk away with some cash and wonder all that could have been.

I wonder who's going to show this fight? I better not be on PPV if it's Free in the states.

Dick-Sucker
10-09-2007, 04:57 AM
Yeah I hope so. He can walk away with some cash and wonder all that could have been.

I wonder who's going to show this fight? I better not be on PPV if it's Free in the states.

Yeh i hope its not. But the sad truth about main event is they will make money off everything they can when it comes to boxing. Im expecting a $40 PPV. But when i finish my exams in a few weeks im going to bombard them with emails. Asking why nascar is on and im going to ask for ratings figures. Then im going to ask why would they keep that on when a boxing bout would attract 4 times more viewers.

If its free in the states it should be free here. Sadly it won't be.

KoolWillie
10-09-2007, 04:38 PM
come one this is an austrlian fighet give him some support

OBOMBER
10-09-2007, 06:50 PM
This must mean Green v Tarver is off

Tarver-Blades on Dec 1st!
IBO light heavyweight champion Antonio "Magic Man" Tarver (25-4, 18 KOs) will face former world title challenger George "Honey Boy" Blades (21-3, 15 KOs) in a twelve round main event on Showtime December 1st. Blades, who is coming off a world title shot against unbeaten WBO world champion Zsolt Erdei this past June, was elated about his second opportunity. "Many people don't ever get a chance at a world title and I'm getting my second chance in the same year. My peformance this time around will be a complete 180," stated Blades, who is advised by Lee Bates. WBC 154lb champion Vernon Forrest (39-2) faces Michele Piccirillo (48-3) in the opener. The card appears headed to Foxwoods.

brently1979
10-09-2007, 07:22 PM
&tThis must mean Green v Tarver is off

Tarver-Blades on Dec 1st!
IBO light heavyweight champion Antonio "Magic Man" Tarver (25-4, 18 KOs) will face former world title challenger George ;Honey Boy" Blades (21-3, 15 KOs) in a twelve round main event on Showtime December 1st. Blades, who is coming off a world title shot against unbeaten WBO world champion Zsolt Erdei this past June, was elated about his second opportunity. "Many people don't ever get a chance at a world title and I'm getting my second chance in the same year. My peformance this time around will be a complete 180," stated Blades, who is advised by Lee Bates. WBC 154lb champion Vernon Forrest (39-2) faces Michele Piccirillo (48-3) in the opener. The card appears headed to Foxwoods.

What the ****. Tarver must be having second thoughts.

OBOMBER
10-10-2007, 01:43 AM
What's going on?!!!!

Johnny Lewis: Danny Green can stop Antonio Tarver

I’m so glad the Danny Green-Tarver fight is still going ahead.
Apparently reports that Tarver was going to fight George Blades instead were wide of the mark. Angelo Hyder, Green’s agent, pushed for this fight and he’s supremely confident. I think it was a masterstroke by Danny’s team to get the fight. Not only do I think Danny can win the fight but I think he can even stop Tarver. Let Tarver think Danny’s going to be easy meat and he will get a very rude shock.

Tarver is there for the taking and Danny has the perfect style to take him apart

brently1979
10-10-2007, 02:52 AM
What's going on?!!!!

Johnny Lewis: Danny Green can stop Antonio Tarver

I’m so glad the Danny Green-Tarver fight is still going ahead.
Apparently reports that Tarver was going to fight George Blades instead were wide of the mark. Angelo Hyder, Green’s agent, pushed for this fight and he’s supremely confident. I think it was a masterstroke by Danny’s team to get the fight. Not only do I think Danny can win the fight but I think he can even stop Tarver. Let Tarver think Danny’s going to be easy meat and he will get a very rude shock.

Tarver is there for the taking and Danny has the perfect style to take him apart

That's good I wanted Green to get another crack.

newforce
10-10-2007, 03:48 AM
is the fight still going to go ahead ??

Brunswick Assassin
10-10-2007, 04:16 AM
WTF??? Are they fighting or what??? Danny should get the fight to happen here in Oz if he's to have any chance of winning! Don't trust these American judges who'll rip Danny! Danny's cashed up so why not go for it??? Mundine doesn't have chin or heart to fight the 'Big Boys' and step up to Light Heavy or Cruiser! Mundine is the Australian version of Roy Jones in terms of skill and speed but doesn't have heart. No wonder they're mates! Both been put to sleep by feather fists! LOL Danny looked so gaunt when he fought Mundine last year so forget about it happening at SMW!

Dick-Sucker
10-10-2007, 04:47 AM
WTF??? Are they fighting or what??? Danny should get the fight to happen here in Oz if he's to have any chance of winning! Don't trust these American judges who'll rip Danny! Danny's cashed up so why not go for it??? Mundine doesn't have chin or heart to fight the 'Big Boys' and step up to Light Heavy or Cruiser! Mundine is the Australian version of Roy Jones in terms of skill and speed but doesn't have heart. No wonder they're mates! Both been put to sleep by feather fists! LOL Danny looked so gaunt when he fought Mundine last year so forget about it happening at SMW!

I fail to understand what your arguing about. Sure Danny has heart. But even without heart, Mundine has ten times the amount of skill than Danny and i will take that any day. Mundine completely dominated green at SMW. Im sure Danny will stop Tarver and im predicting it to be in the 1st. Then Mundine and Green will fight again at light heavy, and its only going to be more clinical. If i was Green i would stay away from Mundine. Hes gonna get hurt more next time.

moochi
10-10-2007, 08:31 AM
if danny green doesn't get a big fight with a big name within the next few months, then game over for him....

he doesn't have time to fight bums.

KoolWillie
10-10-2007, 09:18 AM
If green and mundine where too fight again i reckon anthony would probably knock him out, anthony has jumped a few levels since they last fought

Dick-Sucker
10-10-2007, 08:14 PM
If green and mundine where too fight again i reckon anthony would probably knock him out, anthony has jumped a few levels since they last fought

My point exactly. Performance against Soliman was great. Speedy jab, big power punching. Willing to trade in exchanges, he can do that good but usually doesn't have the heart. I know your thinking im having you all on, but i feel his defence is the second best in the world at the moment behind Floyd Mayweather Junior, your thoughts?

I will always support Green though, this guy is the working class.

brently1979
10-10-2007, 11:05 PM
If green and mundine where too fight again i reckon anthony would probably knock him out, anthony has jumped a few levels since they last fought

Beating Soliman isn't really jumping a few levels and going the distance with a Journeyman in his last fight isn't exactly impressive.

Dick-Sucker
10-11-2007, 12:31 AM
Beating Soliman isn't really jumping a few levels and going the distance with a Journeyman in his last fight isn't exactly impressive.

But when you bring in the winky vs soliman discussion. And if Green beats Tarver. Is it then impressive?

brently1979
10-11-2007, 01:43 AM
But when you bring in the winky vs soliman discussion. And if Green beats Tarver. Is it then impressive?

Sam looked like **** against Winky.

Dick-Sucker
10-11-2007, 02:14 AM
Sam looked like **** against Winky.

True. But how come he only lost by 2-3 rounds on judges score cards. And lets face it Sam looks like **** every time he fights. Its his style. Did you see vs Mundine, pre-fight. Mundine was warming up normally with jabs and combinations on his trainers pads. And Soliman was doing these monkey punches on the back of his trainer like he was a street fighter.

But say Green does cause an upset over Antonio, what does that say for Mundine?

brently1979
10-11-2007, 02:49 AM
True. But how come he only lost by 2-3 rounds on judges score cards. And lets face it Sam looks like **** every time he fights. Its his style. Did you see vs Mundine, pre-fight. Mundine was warming up normally with jabs and combinations on his trainers pads. And Soliman was doing these monkey punches on the back of his trainer like he was a street fighter.

But say Green does cause an upset over Antonio, what does that say for Mundine?

Mundine failed his biggest test and that was Kessler. Not to mention he lost to siaca or what ever his name was.

I know you love Mundine, but you have to be realistic who has he beaten at top world class level?

Dick-Sucker
10-11-2007, 03:22 AM
Mundine failed his biggest test and that was Kessler. Not to mention he lost to siaca or what ever his name was.

I know you love Mundine, but you have to be realistic who has he beaten at top world class level?

I agree with you on that, he hasn't beaten a fighter at top world class level. I just feel (the basis of my argument) is he is a largely improved fighter. And this time he has a lot better chance at getting a win over another title holder. Do you think on his night he could upset kess? (im not sure on that)

But im a bit startled by his management. Why doesn't he just offer Berrio some big bucks and take the IBF title from him. That guy is ordinary to say the least.

My argument is that i just feel Mundine might be peaking in the next 24 months. And i feel that on his night he could upset either Kess or Joe C. Im confident he could beat a lot of the middleweight champions and Berrio at super mid. What are your thoughts mate? Sorry to sound like a nut hugger.

brently1979
10-11-2007, 04:11 AM
I agree with you on that, he hasn't beaten a fighter at top world class level. I just feel (the basis of my argument) is he is a largely improved fighter. And this time he has a lot better chance at getting a win over another title holder. Do you think on his night he could upset kess? (im not sure on that)

But im a bit startled by his management. Why doesn't he just offer Berrio some big bucks and take the IBF title from him. That guy is ordinary to say the least.

My argument is that i just feel Mundine might be peaking in the next 24 months. And i feel that on his night he could upset either Kess or Joe C. Im confident he could beat a lot of the middleweight champions and Berrio at super mid. What are your thoughts mate? Sorry to sound like a nut hugger.

He won't beat Kessler, no way Kessler wasn't 100% when they fought. He might be able to take the IBF crown I give you that. His management is always been bad. They need to get him on an undercard to a big fight. I think that would be a good start. It would have been great if he got on the Kessler vs. Joe card, but hey. Sometimes your blinded by your love for the man I think.

Dick-Sucker
10-11-2007, 04:14 AM
He won't beat Kessler, no way Kessler wasn't 100% when they fought. He might be able to take the IBF crown I give you that. His management is always been bad. They need to get him on an undercard to a big fight. I think that would be a good start. It would have been great if he got on the Kessler vs. Joe card, but hey. Sometimes your blinded by your love for the man I think.

LOL. No mate. I agree with you. He should have been on an American undercard 24 months ago. He would have had an overseas fan base like Katsidis has now.

brently1979
10-11-2007, 04:18 AM
LOL. No mate. I agree with you. He should have been on an American undercard 24 months ago. He would have had an overseas fan base like Katsidis has now.

You need to ask yourself why he wasn't done the same??? If he really wants the recognition he talks about.

Dick-Sucker
10-11-2007, 05:09 AM
You need to ask yourself why he wasn't done the same??? If he really wants the recognition he talks about.

I honestly think hes scared. ? Or his management team is really really dumb.

brently1979
10-11-2007, 06:40 PM
I honestly think hes scared. ? Or his management team is really really dumb.

I think it's a bit of both to be honest with you.

Brunswick Assassin
10-11-2007, 09:38 PM
I fail to understand what your arguing about. Sure Danny has heart. But even without heart, Mundine has ten times the amount of skill than Danny and i will take that any day. Mundine completely dominated green at SMW. Im sure Danny will stop Tarver and im predicting it to be in the 1st. Then Mundine and Green will fight again at light heavy, and its only going to be more clinical. If i was Green i would stay away from Mundine. Hes gonna get hurt more next time.

UltimateBoxa! Danny actually wanted to fight Mundine back in 2003/2204 when Danny was still comfortable and able to make SMW, but Mundine didn't want none of him! So he waited 3 years later where it would be impossible for Danny to make SMW and it gets harder for a fighter as they get older to make a desired weight such as the SMW limit! Lets be honest here Antwun Echols didn't even have a training camp and Mundine still couldn't put him away or beat him convincingly with jab and move crap! Real fighters stand there and go blow for blow! Green looked like a skeleton against Choc! Take nothing away from Mundine, he has great hand speed and skill but if he believes in himself that much saying he's the 'Greatest' ever Australian athlete and all this bravado talk about being the 'Man' and making those pathetic one fingered signals! Get in there with anybody, anytime, anywhere like he's been saying since 2003! Jeff Lacy's making a comeback so fight him or Jermain Taylor before fighting either Calzaghe/Kessler or Pavlik! There was nothing at all to make me go wow in his performance against Zamora dude! Choc seriously underestimated him.

Brunswick Assassin
10-11-2007, 09:45 PM
Mundine failed his biggest test and that was Kessler. Not to mention he lost to siaca or what ever his name was.


What a joke that Siacca fight was! Was contemplating calling Main Event or Mundines management and asking for my $50 back! The last Mundine fight I paid for was Green fight! With that $50 I can buy a slab of Crownies instead of watching that! Kessler then flatened Siaca after Mundine fought him and beat Mundine very convincingly as Champion in Choc's backyard! This shows you the confidence of Kessler! In all honesty Kessler doesn't have to grant Mundine a rematch for sh*t! Kessler convicncingly beat him in Oz so that says enough!

brently1979
10-11-2007, 10:12 PM
What a joke that Siacca fight was! Was contemplating calling Main Event or Mundines management and asking for my $50 back! The last Mundine fight I paid for was Green fight! With that $50 I can buy a slab of Crownies instead of watching that! Kessler then flatened Siaca after Mundine fought him and beat Mundine very convincingly as Champion in Choc's backyard! This shows you the confidence of Kessler! In all honesty Kessler doesn't have to grant Mundine a rematch for sh*t! Kessler convicncingly beat him in Oz so that says enough!

I've never paid for a mundine PPV. No one should they shouldn't even be PPV cards. Main Event are a joke with the **** they get away with, if people didn't support it more fights will be free.

infestacide
10-11-2007, 10:42 PM
What a joke that Siacca fight was! Was contemplating calling Main Event or Mundines management and asking for my $50 back! The last Mundine fight I paid for was Green fight! With that $50 I can buy a slab of Crownies instead of watching that! Kessler then flatened Siaca after Mundine fought him and beat Mundine very convincingly as Champion in Choc's backyard! This shows you the confidence of Kessler! In all honesty Kessler doesn't have to grant Mundine a rematch for sh*t! Kessler convicncingly beat him in Oz so that says enough!

lol you'd still be ripping yourself off if you bought crownies :P

Dick-Sucker
10-12-2007, 02:32 AM
UltimateBoxa! Danny actually wanted to fight Mundine back in 2003/2204 when Danny was still comfortable and able to make SMW, but Mundine didn't want none of him! So he waited 3 years later where it would be impossible for Danny to make SMW and it gets harder for a fighter as they get older to make a desired weight such as the SMW limit! Lets be honest here Antwun Echols didn't even have a training camp and Mundine still couldn't put him away or beat him convincingly with jab and move crap! Real fighters stand there and go blow for blow! Green looked like a skeleton against Choc! Take nothing away from Mundine, he has great hand speed and skill but if he believes in himself that much saying he's the 'Greatest' ever Australian athlete and all this bravado talk about being the 'Man' and making those pathetic one fingered signals! Get in there with anybody, anytime, anywhere like he's been saying since 2003! Jeff Lacy's making a comeback so fight him or Jermain Taylor before fighting either Calzaghe/Kessler or Pavlik! There was nothing at all to make me go wow in his performance against Zamora dude! Choc seriously underestimated him.

Nah mate your absolutely kidding yourself. Your launching a one sided argument. Maybe bring in Mundines side. He had only been boxing for four years and wasn't confident of fighting Danny then. Look you can say what you like but Danny Green isn't half the boxer Mundine was. When we both compare them at their peak, which is the only fair thing to do.

Echolls was rated number 3 super middleweight when Mundine beat him, that says enough.

As for Nievas (Blame Mundines Phukin management who throw him in stupid fights and delay his progress- I dunno what the hell Khoder Nasser is thinking-im seriously going to write to Anthony and ask to be his manager-the first thing i would do would be froch then i would get him Berrios IBF title, then we would drop down to middleweight and take a belt, then we would take Kessler on(not ready to take him now, it would be suicide).

brently1979
10-12-2007, 03:09 AM
Nah mate your absolutely kidding yourself. Your launching a one sided argument. Maybe bring in Mundines side. He had only been boxing for four years and wasn't confident of fighting Danny then. Look you can say what you like but Danny Green isn't half the boxer Mundine was. When we both compare them at their peak, which is the only fair thing to do.

Echolls was rated number 3 super middleweight when Mundine beat him, that says enough.

As for Nievas (Blame Mundines Phukin management who throw him in stupid fights and delay his progress- I dunno what the hell Khoder Nasser is thinking-im seriously going to write to Anthony and ask to be his manager-the first thing i would do would be froch then i would get him Berrios IBF title, then we would drop down to middleweight and take a belt, then we would take Kessler on(not ready to take him now, it would be suicide).

Khoder Nasser is someone Anthony has know for a long time and that's why he's Anthony's manager/promoter and not because he's the best man for the job.
Mundine should have signed with Don King when he had the chance.

Dick-Sucker
10-12-2007, 04:30 AM
Khoder Nasser is someone Anthony has know for a long time and that's why he's Anthony's manager/promoter and not because he's the best man for the job.
Mundine should have signed with Don King when he had the chance.

FKN oath.

Okay well heres my plan for Mundine (hyperthetical-if manager)
- Fight Froch in Australia. Mundine wins by UD. (Froch is desperate to for a big fight, he will take it at the drop of a hat), will be outclassed aswell.
- Fight Berrio in the States. Won't be a massive fight. But Berrio is easily the worst title holder and i rate him a worse fighter than froch, easy win. Suddenly Mundine has the WBA paper belt and the IBF super middleweight titles.
-Okay now it starts to get interesting. He hasn't taken a risk really yet, well not a big one like fighting Kessler would be. And he has shut up half of Britain and he is the IBF and WBA paper world champion for super middleweight. The IBF one is major and respect is now being developed.
-Drops down to middleweight.

(Either way, right now, he has reached his goal as the best multi-talented athlete Australia has ever produced).
Now he has three options.

1. Sturm
2. Pavlik
3. Kessler (predicting he beats Joe C, if he looses than Joe C is the third option.

(One more win over these three and he is in top 20 pound for pound rankings).

But good on Mundine for giving his long mate a chance at being his manager. Thats right "mate", and not a manager. Hes not a manager. Mundine is fighting bums and its annoying his small amount of fans. On top of that its making the other half of Australia hate him even more if thats possible.

Mundine give me a chance at being your manager. I won't sit there getting erections on the side of the ring like your manager gets when you KO a journerman. I can get you 2 non-risky fights and your the best athlete to come out of Australia. After 3, you could "possibly" be 15th on the pound for pound rankings(if you win).

(Kessler and JOE C are both last resorts. These two are considerably better and more threatening than anything their is in middleweight).

brently1979
10-31-2007, 12:10 AM
There hasn't been much talk of Billy Dibb since he's fighting on the Cotto-Mosley card. Anyone heard anything?

Dick-Sucker
10-31-2007, 12:50 AM
There hasn't been much talk of Billy Dibb since he's fighting on the Cotto-Mosley card. Anyone heard anything?

There was a little segment on ESPN sportscorner (local edition), saying he was ready to go. And that was 2 weaks ago. The details seem sketchy. But that is probably because he is fighting before the actual coverage starts. (from what i have heard).

newforce
10-31-2007, 02:48 AM
I would have really liked to see billy dib's fight being televised on the undercard, but I guess we are going to just miss out.

brently1979
10-31-2007, 03:13 AM
There was a little segment on ESPN sportscorner (local edition), saying he was ready to go. And that was 2 weaks ago. The details seem sketchy. But that is probably because he is fighting before the actual coverage starts. (from what i have heard).

I was kind of hoping he was going to be on TV. I know they've already got a good card, but Golden Boy keeps say big things about him and it would be strange if his first fight on TV was a world title shot. I just wanna see the kid in action.

brently1979
11-01-2007, 08:39 PM
There's still **** all press about Dibb anywhere. Especially in Australia.