If Khan beats Earl or Thaxton in December, would you still hate on his level of competition?

if so, who is the bare minimum opponent who he would have to beat for you to change your mind?

And if it doesn't matter who he beats, what will change your mind?

And if nothing can change your mind, whats the problem???

just curious.

If Khan beats Earl or Thaxton in December, would you still hate on his level of competition?

if so, who is the bare minimum opponent who he would have to beat for you to change your mind?

And if it doesn't matter who he beats, what will change your mind?

And if nothing can change your mind, whats the problem???

just curious.



If Khan takes Thaxton on... then i'll definately be on his side. He'll have taken on a difficult fight and a chance to prove his worth...

I dislike the fact he's overrated in many peoples eyes. Thts not Khans fault though.

If he fights Thaxton then he's doing something wonderful and i'd be on HIS side, instead of always backing the other guy.

PLUS... i'll be on Khans side the day he fights a foreigner.

I would like to see Khan fight either of these guys or at least someone who can punch a bit.

fair comments. i think his progress will be have been fine if he fights either of these two (the current 1 and 2 in the brit lw division) within a couple of fights - and preferably in the next fight.

i'd prefer thaxton, because beating earl will still leave questions unanswered in most peoples minds (i.e. earl will be regarded as shot).

Thaxton or Earl would do it for me.

Don't hate him btw. It's natural if someone is overhyped that you have a defensive nature to be sceptical of them.

By all means, I hope he proves himself against the best Britain has to offer.

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If Khan takes Thaxton on... then i'll definately be on his side. He'll have taken on a difficult fight and a chance to prove his worth...

I dislike the fact he's overrated in many peoples eyes. Thts not Khans fault though.

If he fights Thaxton then he's doing something wonderful and i'd be on HIS side, instead of always backing the other guy.

PLUS... i'll be on Khans side the day he fights a foreigner.

what about drilzane and medjadji ?

what about drilzane and medjadji ?

I mean decent foreign fighters.

i think he will beat thaxton because thaxton is not near world class but once amir steps into world class his glass chin will be exposed no matter how skillfull you are, agianst the worlds best you have no chance.

If Khan beats Earl or Thaxton in December, would you still hate on his level of competition?

if so, who is the bare minimum opponent who he would have to beat for you to change your mind?

And if it doesn't matter who he beats, what will change your mind?

And if nothing can change your mind, whats the problem???

just curious.

I expect khan to beat earl, its just that he needs to do it in a fashion thats fitting to all of this hype being placed on him. Thats what he needs to do for me to respect him.

It does look like Graham Earl now.

This is a very risky fight for Khan at this stage of his career but.....we will then finally be able to truly judge his potential.

Im not a hater. I like Kahn. His next 4 fights could possibly be

Earl
Murray
Thaxton
Mitchell

If he beats all these everone will have to admit his quality.
Maybee after these he shold go for that ausie who battered Earl.

****in hell i should be a promoter.

Its not that i hate Khan, i hate wat the media are tryin to make him, i mean durin the Games he was said to be as fast as SSL n said there wasnt a talent in the Games like this since Ali or SSL, did they guys not see RJJ or mayweather then? so dnt really mind khan cos i dnt see him as a person jst a boxer, but i still hope he gets beat soon jst to bring him down a lil bit, and to see what he would do with a that

Its not that i hate Khan, i hate wat the media are tryin to make him, i mean durin the Games he was said to be as fast as SSL n said there wasnt a talent in the Games like this since Ali or SSL, did they guys not see RJJ or mayweather then? so dnt really mind khan cos i dnt see him as a person jst a boxer, but i still hope he gets beat soon jst to bring him down a lil bit, and to see what he would do with a that

most people do hate the way the media has hyped him up and thats fair enough.

i was really targeting the posters who hate on the lad for his level of competition without saying who they want to see him in with... welter skelter and southpaw stinger spring to mind

It just pisses me off with the coverage he gets. He was so famous in Britain after about his 10th fight.

Then you get people like Kelly Pavlik. He was 31-0 (28) before 80% of people even knew who he was.

If Khan beats Earl or Thaxton then I'll start respecting him a bit more but whilst Frank Warren is sticking him in the ring with these bums who don't even punch back and then Khan gets ****y when he beats them i wont.

i dont hate on khan and dont hate on warren either! but the learning curve is coming to an end and in december he needs to figh earl and thaxton in march!! an european title shot should soon follow before a tune up to world level!! also he cant duck john murray forever,, john murray will be a champ!!

It just pisses me off with the coverage he gets. He was so famous in Britain after about his 10th fight.

Then you get people like Kelly Pavlik. He was 31-0 (28) before 80% of people even knew who he was.


i think this is the first time ever that a boxer has had every fight aired live on prime time tv. (or did audley get all his early ones shown?)

so it is annoying the amount of exposure he has had. not really his fault though, because if any of us were in the same position we'd be laughing all the way to the bank, much like amir is.

and the situation in america is completely different. theres much more competition between prospects and no-one is going to get hyped up on a national level in the same way khan is until they've had more than a dozen fights. i don't think winning a medal in the olympics is as much a deal for americans than it is for the british.

i think this is the first time ever that a boxer has had every fight aired live on prime time tv. (or did audley get all his early ones shown?)

so it is annoying the amount of exposure he has had. not really his fault though, because if any of us were in the same position we'd be laughing all the way to the bank, much like amir is.

and the situation in america is completely different. theres much more competition between prospects and no-one is going to get hyped up on a national level in the same way khan is until they've had more than a dozen fights. i don't think winning a medal in the olympics is as much a deal for americans than it is for the british.

I think you have hit the nail on the head, when Khan was fighting in the Olympic final millions tuned in simply because of the reaction of the media to a 17 year old kid being in that position. Other countries primarily the States always have fighters in Olympic finals therefore its no big deal.

As its rare for us, Harrison and Khan received huge deals to televise all their fights and here we are......

Harrison quickly understood the potential in protecting his 'brand' and stuttered his way through his fights hand picking opponents until it came to the crunch and he had to fight a decent one (then the bubble burst)

Khan's career is similar but he has the luxury of being able to take his time due to his age, the surprising thing for me is that he has already fought for titles and that he is looking to fight Earl or Thaxton etc which is a huge gamble.

I think Khan gets a rough ride because he is what he is because of the British public, the guy is 20 years of age and is expected to be the finished article simply because of the hype around him.

Worse case scenario is that he will turn out to be over hyped and disappear but who will have the last laugh, after all he is already a millionaire so.......

I think Earl is another step up, even though he took a battling againt Katsidis.
He could be danger for Kahn as he knocked Katsidis down when everyone thought it was over.

if he fights and beats earl then im 100 percent backing Amir Khan and if he beats Earl he would shoot up the rankings by a couple of places.

It just pisses me off with the coverage he gets. He was so famous in Britain after about his 10th fight.

Then you get people like Kelly Pavlik. He was 31-0 (28) before 80% of people even knew who he was.

If Khan beats Earl or Thaxton then I'll start respecting him a bit more but whilst Frank Warren is sticking him in the ring with these bums who don't even punch back and then Khan gets ****y when he beats them i wont.

what the hell you on about. do you think even in amaerica they know kelly pavlik? they probably don't know calzaghe etc either. if you can name any 17 eyar old that has a silver medal in the uk then they would get hype too.

britain hypes up any winner.

he is lucky to get so much attention, but it's not his fault. some people in life get ucky and make money etc... doesn't mean we should hate.

what the hell you on about. do you think even in amaerica they know kelly pavlik? they probably don't know calzaghe etc either. if you can name any 17 eyar old that has a silver medal in the uk then they would get hype too.

britain hypes up any winner.

he is lucky to get so much attention, but it's not his fault. some people in life get ucky and make money etc... doesn't mean we should hate.

yeah - but when the hype starts to cloud the truth - it becomes embaressing.

You ask any housewife or casual fight fan and they think Amir Khan is currently the greatest boxer on earth.

Its just not true and a discredit to those respected fighters who are better than him, with ALOT less credit......im lookin at you Thaxton.

Maybe if schools in the United Kingdom focused on training the kids in sports other than football, everyone would have less of a boner when someone with a hint of talent emerges in another sport.

Sometimes I wish I went to school in america just for the attention to sports that they have over there.

Maybe if schools in the United Kingdom focused on training the kids in sports other than football, everyone would have less of a boner when someone with a hint of talent emerges in another sport.

Sometimes I wish I went to school in america just for the attention to sports that they have over there.

Agreed... sports in schools needs more focus.


But i don't think school physical education has anything to do with people hating on Khan.

I'd go for Graham Earl for his next fight, but he'll need to improve on his defence a hell of a lot.

He showed slight improvement with keeping his hands up but Lawton didn't really stand a chance.

I already think he's a decent talent

If Khan beats Earl or Thaxton in December, would you still hate on his level of competition?

if so, who is the bare minimum opponent who he would have to beat for you to change your mind?

And if it doesn't matter who he beats, what will change your mind?

And if nothing can change your mind, whats the problem???

just curious.


Until he is a contender then why does he deserve any more respect than any other kid trying to make it?
Just curious.

Prospects should be treated as such until they become champions.
Same as any other sport.

Until he is a contender then why does he deserve any more respect than any other kid trying to make it?
Just curious.

he doesn't. i don't disagree there. but equally i don't think he deserves more hate than any other kid trying to make it....

not giving him more respect than other prospects is not what i call "hate" and is not the point of the thread. i myself am firmly in the "wait and see" camp, and think he's progressing faster than you'd expect of any other prospect.

Khan is going to be great you wait and see, his little mistakes will be corrected then he will be great.

I think his chin will be a problem.

I hate Amir Khan. He's not even British, so I don't see why the press keeps on hyping him up.

he has fast hands but every time i see him fight he drops his hands. Even though he won his last fight there was a punch which hit him and he didn`t even see it, plus his hands were by his sides.

I can't see khan losing through volume of punches but i can definietly see him being sparked at some point. You can see it now, but the guys he's fighting dont carry much power, although limond landed a nice shot.

Frank Warren really gets on my nerves, says on national tv that next opponant will be announced yesterday.

Late, as per usual

ill tell ya who i think will give him a good test? Ship old Renea Ganoy out there. He is a philo who resides in australia and recently has been in GREAT form.

what will change your mind?


just curious.

When he faces someone with at least a KO% of at least 60.. Someone who can PUNCH.. if he can take a HIT from a Big Hitter and still win the fight I will be sold.. But even the level he is fighting now.. he is still fighting extreme feather fists..

Lawton.. 20 wins 4 KOs
Limond.. 28 wins 8 KOs
Bull.. 24 wins 5 KOs
Medjadji 19 wins 3 KOs

and Up coming fight against
Earl who has 12 KOs in 25 wins.. Still under 50%
But easily the Hardest Hitter Khan has faced..
We shall see soon I guess

When he faces someone with at least a KO% of at least 60.. Someone who can PUNCH.. if he can take a HIT from a Big Hitter and still win the fight I will be sold.. But even the level he is fighting now.. he is still fighting extreme feather fists..

Lawton.. 20 wins 4 KOs
Limond.. 28 wins 8 KOs
Bull.. 24 wins 5 KOs
Medjadji 19 wins 3 KOs

and Up coming fight against
Earl who has 12 KOs in 25 wins.. Still under 50%
But easily the Hardest Hitter Khan has faced..
We shall see soon I guess

and my point has always been that there aren't any boxers on the domestic lightweight scene with a 60% ko ratio. the hardest hitter is probably jono thaxton and he's only around 50%.

yes, he could have fought people from abroad with higher ko ratios, but that would be meaningless unless they were known fighters who's records hadn't been padded (if you remember, he fought Vitali Martynov from belarus who had an 80% ko ratio but this doesn't mean **** cos of his level of comp).

so what i'm asking is who would khan have to face to change your mind...i.e. give me realistic examples of fighters who a 20 year old prospect should face. and don't start throwing ko ratios at me because thats not answering the question.


btw i do more or less agree with you about him being protected but i think a fight against earl would be an adequate step-up at this point.