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mickeyb
10-03-2007, 09:12 AM
He's 41... he could make a comeback? Surely.

You never lose your strength. If he had the will and put the effort in... how far do you think a Tyson comeback would go.... do you think he could pick up a belt eventually again?

I reckon if he came to England he could take our top heavyweights still...

Oasis_Lad
10-03-2007, 09:37 AM
Are you drunk, Mickey?

His speed made him so good and gave him power, and these days he is slower than Forrest Gump at a National Spelling Bee Championship.

-CANE-
10-03-2007, 09:45 AM
He's 41... he could make a comeback? Surely.

You never lose your strength. If he had the will and put the effort in... how far do you think a Tyson comeback would go.... do you think he could pick up a belt eventually again?

I reckon if he came to England he could take our top heavyweights still...

He'd struggle with even today's crop of Heavyweights. I don't think he could win a belt. Even if he had the will and determination to get fit if he hadn't knocked them out within 2 rounds then its goodnight vienna.

Nodogoshi
10-03-2007, 11:08 AM
I posted this in another thread in NSB.. its just occured to me that I would like to see a Butterbean-Tyson fight. Hell, make it 4 rounds for all i care.. I know it'd be a freek show but I cant help wanting to see it.

Then maybe the winner could fight the winner of a Bobb Sapp-Kimbo Slice fight hahaha.

QuCongee
10-03-2007, 11:10 AM
i've been saying this for a while now. The ****in guy needs money.

Give him a kick in the ass and get him get in shape. Get him a couple of bums to knock out and try to set up a title shot. God knows he aint gonna beat Klitschko but who cares? It's Mike Tyson. He's always gonna sell tickets.

Miracles do happen though (not that one would) and Wlad does have a shakey chin. But either way, just get the man a paycheck for god's sake.

Brassangel
10-03-2007, 11:18 AM
I think that if a barely cognisent, nearly inaudible Holyfield can do it, Tyson, who's 3 years younger, could do it. Someone like Foreman could kick his nuts into shape, and we know he possesses natural skill and power. Maybe he'd lose to a prime, big guy like Wlad, but he could challenge the others I'd wager. And that previous comment was correct: He'd sell tickets and bring people back to the sport.

The key would be to make the fights available for free, unless he miracles himself into a unification bout or something.

Yaman
10-03-2007, 11:51 AM
He is done 100%. 1-he's facing jail time(but not in his 20s) 2- he lost to Mcbride, that should say enough about his will to fight, or you could just watch the post fight interview where he says this 3 times. And 3-The style of fighting he has been doing for decades has worn him out. His back will be too much of a problem.
Today in the heavyweight devision, a short average sized 40 year old man using the style of a young gun is not the start of something succesful. I don't think he could do it physically or mentally.

The Iron Man
10-03-2007, 12:00 PM
I wouldnt want to see him make a half hearted come back..he would tarnish his greateness. I wouldnt mind seeing a come back with Kevin Rooney on his side, get into shape - But only if mike WANTS to fight not if he needs money. I think he should call out Douglas and avenge his biggest loss and then finish for ever

Franko
10-03-2007, 12:14 PM
He's 41... he could make a comeback? Surely.

You never lose your strength. If he had the will and put the effort in... how far do you think a Tyson comeback would go.... do you think he could pick up a belt eventually again?

I reckon if he came to England he could take our top heavyweights still...

'If i can't beat Kevin McBride i can't beat Junior Jones!' Do you remember Tyson saying this? Unfortunately he is finished as a fighter. Danny Williams (who i suppose was one of England's top heavyweights at the time), and McBride made it obvious that Tyson had nothing left to give. Sure, he would sell tickets... He could sell out Madison Square Garden masturbating! But the beatings he took from two very average fighters should be a reminder that any comeback would be seriously ill advised.

Ishak Pasha
10-03-2007, 12:19 PM
He is done 100%. 1-he's facing jail time(but not in his 20s) 2- he lost to Mcbride, that should say enough about his will to fight, or you could just watch the post fight interview where he says this 3 times. And 3-The style of fighting he has been doing for decades has worn him out. His back will be too much of a problem.
Today in the heavyweight devision, a short average sized 40 year old man using the style of a young gun is not the start of something succesful. I don't think he could do it physically or mentally.

but he still has knockout power.

1 right hand and your on the floor ;)

QuCongee
10-03-2007, 12:19 PM
I wouldnt want to see him make a half hearted come back..he would tarnish his greateness.

Mike Tyson is probably my favorite fighter of all time his greatness is already fully tarnished.

The Iron Man
10-03-2007, 12:28 PM
Mike Tyson is probably my favorite fighter of all time his greatness is already fully tarnished.

No way is it fully tarnished. His still known as a great fighters, of course alot of people remember him for the bite, but ask them if he was a great fighter and they will say yes. His impact on the world of Boxing wen he started and smashed throught the ranks will never be seen again. He is the Youngest ever world champion, First to unite 3 belts, Undisputed champion, Lineal champ. He holds countless records in the PPV and Selling Tickets. And why? because he was great there are no two ways about it

QuCongee
10-03-2007, 12:36 PM
And why? because he was great there are no two ways about it

I agree he was great. WAS great.

I'd say Biting someone's ear off and quitting on his stool against Kevin McNobody are pretty damn powerful greatness tarnishers.

mickeyb
10-03-2007, 12:40 PM
I agree he was great. WAS great.

I'd say Biting someone's ear off and quitting on his stool against Kevin McNobody are pretty damn powerful greatness tarnishers.



Those things wont be remembered as brightly in the future as his record i think. He's not the only champion to have a turbulant social life.

The Iron Man
10-03-2007, 12:42 PM
Sonny Liston Used dirty Tactics in the First Ali Fights, does that stop him from being Great?

Ali Refused to Go to the army does that stop him from Being great. He also Retired Against Holmes.

Tyson was a finished fighter against Kevin McBride, you cant judge a fighter on his last few fights, Did you see the interview the reason why he gave up? That made me respect him even more. He Was and IS great.

QuCongee
10-03-2007, 12:46 PM
He's not the only champion to have a turbulant social life.

He bit someone's ear off!

Sonny Liston Used dirty Tactics in the First Ali Fights, does that stop him from being Great?

....

The man BIT SOMEONE'S GOD DAMN EAR OFF!!!

The Iron Man
10-03-2007, 01:00 PM
Actually he didnt bite his ear off. Liston Blinded ali for the round. Other fighters have bite apponents, Holyfield constantly buts apponents and they come off with much worse injurys than he did. Its a fact tyson will be known and is known as a great Boxer. Just Like Micky b said..i bet u had forgotten about all the other things i stated

QuCongee
10-03-2007, 01:12 PM
Look, I don't know how many ways I can say it. I love Mike and I think he's the best EVER, but the man has become a circus act.

You said you don't wanna see him make a half hearted comeback because it would tarnish his greatness, as if his comeback against Lewis was motivated by anything other than financial problems

It breaks my heart but he's been embarrassing himself for years now.

Sorry.

Brassangel
10-03-2007, 01:56 PM
I think the fact that he's been so embarassing is why people would want to see him come back, full-heartedly: to erase some of that by showing heart and congeniality.

He bit someone's ear...it wasn't because he was losing that fight, and especially not that round. He received a head-butt, and comments to this day that Holyfield kept searching for that cut when in close (ie: would look directly at it and then lean that way), and would rub his own head against it to inflame it. In the same fight, when Tyson started pushing Holyfield back instead of allowing himself to be waltzed, Holyfield grabs Mike's arm and tries to swing him around. All of these antics started in the 2nd round when Mike woke up, slipped multiple combinations, and started landing his own shots. The fact that Tyson was a loose cannon can't be used as basis for his tarnish when his opponent clearly tried to take advantage of that in moments of uncertainty; with no help from craptastic Mills Lane, I might add.

I am not saying that what he did was justified, but he was not the only dirty fighter in that fight. In fact, Evander started it, and maintained it when things started going the other way. Mike just made the single dirtiest play of them all.

It's so rediculous when ESPN SportsCentury, bums like Teddy Atlas, Bert Sugar, etc., make the claim that Tyson was losing so he wanted a way out. Anybody who actually watches that fight and pays attention can see a clearly different state of events. The guilty-verdict was stamped on him before he even stepped in the ring.

By the way, my first post was mildly sarcastic. I don't think he'd have the heart to come back, short of a James Braddock-like motivation...which he has never really shown the ability to do.

Finally, he won at least 5 of 6 rounds against McBride. He was beating Williams too, but a torn ligament in his knee sort of stopped that from happening. Even so, these fights are hardly guages for the man's greatness.

Jim_Davis
10-03-2007, 02:06 PM
Don't let your love and admiration for Mike Tyson blind the facts of boxing.


Mike Tyson vs Tony Booth? Maybe, but thats as far as its going.

QuCongee
10-03-2007, 02:07 PM
Don't let your love and admiration for Mike Tyson blind the facts of boxing.


Mike Tyson vs Tony Booth? Maybe, but thats as far as its going.


Tony - KO3

Brassangel
10-03-2007, 06:01 PM
Or Tyson kicks him in the nuts, eats his corner, and then gets a DUI on the way home.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

adietheforestfa
10-03-2007, 06:18 PM
He lost to Danny " The Fanny " Williams

end of..........

VERSATILE2K12
10-03-2007, 10:22 PM
Ive seen a 40 year old Tyson on mitts,and I bet he's still faster then 95% of the posters/pros or not,on this board.

poet682006
10-03-2007, 11:08 PM
After the McBride fight Tyson said he was retiring because he didn't want to disgrace the sport he loved by continuing on. I think he should hold to that: It was a classy way to go out and scored brownie points with my opinion of him. Tyson, of all recent (relatively) fighters had pure respect for the sport of boxing. He's seen fighters hang on to long and what happend to them. I'm sure Mike saw himself heading down that same road and had no desire to be little more than a big name padding some up and comers record. So he got out. Good for him and Holyfield should take note of it.

Poet

The Iron Man
10-03-2007, 11:36 PM
Exactly Poet. I would rather him not return to the ring. But if he really put his heart in it and had Rooney on his side, he my be able to do somthing but more probably that wouldnt happen. Id Love him to do that and call out Buster, beat him and end that stupid loss, id love for that to happen. Tyson avenging the Biggest Upset in sporting History!

LondonRingRules
10-04-2007, 12:15 AM
He's 41... he could make a comeback? Surely.

You never lose your strength. If he had the will and put the effort in... how far do you think a Tyson comeback would go.... do you think he could pick up a belt eventually again?

I reckon if he came to England he could take our top heavyweights still...

** Well, Tyson's threads always make a comeback and I reckon he could sail over and become the King of England, but really, enough is enough. He wouldn't want to shatter Audley's dream now, would he?:smashfrea

them_apples
10-04-2007, 12:27 AM
Ive seen a 40 year old Tyson on mitts,and I bet he's still faster then 95% of the posters/pros or not,on this board.

yea that's correct, tyson isn't slow at all, he's actually still quick as hell, but he has no boxing heart or any technique left, it seemed in his later fights that he would give up as soon as he took a bigger shot, but his solid chin kept him up.

Tyson's also 245lbs of ripped muscle, but I think it might be limiting his explosive potential, because he looks like a body builder.

Franko
10-04-2007, 10:31 AM
He bit someone's ear off!



....

The man BIT SOMEONE'S GOD DAMN EAR OFF!!!

Tyson has been vilified enough for biting Holyfield. Yes, it was wrong... He resorted to street violence showing no respect for the rules of the fight game, but let's not forget that he was facing a dirty fighter also. Like or not, Holyfield deliberately used his head, and continued to do so when Tyson was cut... Tyson retaliated, and it was down to frustration and desperation more than anything, although many have claimed that Tyson bit Holyfield because he knew he couldn't beat him in accordance with the rules... I don't agree with that.