View Full Version : All Time Lightweight Tournament


AntonTheGreat
09-30-2007, 01:49 PM
1.pernell Whitaker VS 8.julio cesar chavez
2.Roberto Duran VS 7.Ike Williams
3.henry Armstrong VS 6.Benny Leonard
4.Joe Gans vs 5.carlos ortiz

bengidaro
09-30-2007, 08:29 PM
Armstrong wins the whole thing. But Duran against Whitaker would be fun. The brawler against a good defensive guy. But I don't care because Armstrong wins it all.

JAB5239
10-23-2008, 10:44 PM
1.pernell Whitaker VS 8.julio cesar chavez
2.Roberto Duran VS 7.Ike Williams
3.henry Armstrong VS 6.Benny Leonard
4.Joe Gans vs 5.carlos ortiz

Whitaker over Chavez
Duran ove Williams
Leonard over Armstrong
Gans over Ortiz

Next round......

Whitaker over Gans
Duran over Leonard

final round......

Duran over Whitaker 15 round SD

Any one of the last 4 guys could beat any lightweight in History on any given night in my opinion.

them_apples
10-25-2008, 01:20 AM
Pryor vs Whitaker 135

Shiranui
10-25-2008, 02:27 PM
Armstrong wins the whole thing. But Duran against Whitaker would be fun. The brawler against a good defensive guy. But I don't care because Armstrong wins it all.

Armstrong had serious problems with Ambers at LW, his best weight was welterweight.

BattlingNelson
10-25-2008, 02:41 PM
No Battling Nelson?? :nono::nono:

TheGreatA
10-25-2008, 03:35 PM
Armstrong had serious problems with Ambers at LW, his best weight was welterweight.

I thought Armstrong whipped Ambers pretty badly (from what I saw of the fight) but lost the second fight because of low blows.

He was deducted 4 rounds in the first fight and 5 rounds in the rematch.

Armstrong looked GREAT against Baby Arizmendi which was for the welterweight title but both fought at 135 lbs, also against Barney Ross when he weighed 133 lbs.

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Here's a couple of rounds of the Lou Ambers fight.

AntonTheGreat
10-25-2008, 04:38 PM
No Battling Nelson?? :nono::nono:

don't take it personal bat.i made this when i first showed up here.all the guys i mentioned where the guys i knew of and saw fight.

Deadbirds
10-28-2008, 12:37 AM
Henry Armstrong wins it all !!!

Gift of Gab
10-28-2008, 01:11 AM
duran whips them all.
duran tko 9 williams
duran ud 15 whitaker
duran tko 12 armstrong in a superclassic

1SILVA
10-30-2008, 07:42 PM
1.pernell Whitaker VS 8.julio cesar chavez
2.Roberto Duran VS 7.Ike Williams
3.henry Armstrong VS 6.Benny Leonard
4.Joe Gans vs 5.carlos ortiz

ROUND 1
Whitaker easy 15 round decision over Chavez
Duran KO14 Williams in a brutal war
Armstrong Split decision 15 round decision over Leonard
Gans KO12 over Ortiz as Ortiz quits on his stool

SEMIS
Whitaker split decision 15 rounds over Gans in a very tough fight
Armstrong wins a razor thin 15 round decsion over Duran in a war

FINALS
Armstrong wins the tournament with a very workmanlike 15 round decision over Whitaker

DonFlamenco
10-30-2008, 08:10 PM
lightweight shane mosley needs to make that tournament list.

JAB5239
10-30-2008, 08:12 PM
lightweight shane mosley needs to make that tournament list.

Based on what, Phillip Holiday?

DonFlamenco
10-30-2008, 09:04 PM
Based on what, Phillip Holiday?

that was shane's natural weight. he skipped 140 and went straight to 147 where he was always the smaller man. only losses were to naturally alot bigger guys aside from cotto where he lost a sd way past his prime. Shane was the man at 135. He moved up in weight because there where the money was.

Ryn0
10-30-2008, 09:06 PM
IMO Duran wins the entire thing, Armstrong second

JAB5239
10-30-2008, 09:17 PM
that was shane's natural weight. he skipped 140 and went straight to 147 where he was always the smaller man. only losses were to naturally alot bigger guys aside from cotto where he lost a sd way past his prime. Shane was the man at 135. He moved up in weight because there where the money was.

I understand all this. But that deoesn't make him an all time lightweight. Apart from Holiday, Molina and Leija his comp at 135 was pretty weak. The other guys that have been mentioned (Gans, Duran, Armstrong and Whitaker) ruled their division for a good amount of time and or beat other legends at that weight. I like Shane, but he can't make that claim and shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as those other fighters.

Cadillac Man
10-31-2008, 01:33 AM
I'll take Duran to win it all. How you think PBF would fare vs this competition at 35?

DonFlamenco
10-31-2008, 07:44 PM
I understand all this. But that deoesn't make him an all time lightweight. Apart from Holiday, Molina and Leija his comp at 135 was pretty weak. The other guys that have been mentioned (Gans, Duran, Armstrong and Whitaker) ruled their division for a good amount of time and or beat other legends at that weight. I like Shane, but he can't make that claim and shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as those other fighters.

ya nothing on his resume really says it. But shane was sick at 135.

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ironalex
11-02-2008, 04:36 PM
Duran wins the whole thing. Durans the best at 135 ever.

McGoorty
09-12-2011, 05:45 PM
1.pernell Whitaker VS 8.julio cesar chavez
2.Roberto Duran VS 7.Ike Williams
3.henry Armstrong VS 6.Benny Leonard
4.Joe Gans vs 5.carlos ortiz
We already know the result of the first fight.... Whittaker through to next round. Benny wins tournament,.... only Gans gives him real trouble,.... he outboxes the rest with masterful displays.