View Full Version : Boxing is not what it used to be.
Silverfox 10-20-2004, 11:28 PM Once upon a time, there was one champ per division. Today, it's watered down with a lot of pretenders to various thrones. It's all become a promoter's money making scam. Additionally, 12 rounds is no true test of championship material. One just has to review the Sugar Ray/Hearns/Duran & Hagler fights....or the Ali/Frazier fights...to gain the meaning of guts & determination.
Bring back 15 rounds!! Bring back one champ per division!!
Most of today's fighters lack endurance!
MetalVomit 10-20-2004, 11:32 PM Once upon a time, there was one champ per division. Today, it's watered down with a lot of pretenders to various thrones. It's all become a promoter's money making scam. Additionally, 12 rounds is no true test of championship material. One just has to review the Sugar Ray/Hearns/Duran & Hagler fights....or the Ali/Frazier fights...to gain the meaning of guts & determination.
Bring back 15 rounds!! Bring back one champ per division!!
Most of today's fighters lack endurance!
one champ per division=less money floating around for the greedy ****s that run boxing, which would hurt. belts=attention, which=consumer interest. 15 rounds=not popular due to boring fights having to go the distance(2 words=John Ruiz), also there would be an additional health worry with fighters going 15, isnt that why they shortened it to 12? im not sure.boxing is digging itself out of its deep, deep hole little by little. whether it makes it back to the glory days is unlikely, but i'll be damned if i dont watch.
Don't forget that in the past there weren't any of these "junior" weight classes. Only 8 divisions.
psychopath 10-21-2004, 07:42 AM True boxing is not as it was before . . .AND I dont really care if we have 4 boxing bodies today . . . but for CHRIST SAKE let these champions fight each other without so much BLAH . . .BLAH . . . and CRAPS to settle the score. That's the main reason why we have a lot of pretenders and PAPER CHAMPIONS out there. :cool:
elveiel 10-21-2004, 07:51 AM There are too many ways of ducking a mandatory challenger.
If the best fought the best, boxing would be perfect.
jabsRstiff 10-21-2004, 08:04 AM There are too many ways of ducking a mandatory challenger.
If the best fought the best, boxing would be perfect.
Most mandatory challengers are NOT THE BEST challengers....
elveiel 10-21-2004, 08:05 AM Most mandatory challengers are NOT THE BEST challengers....
Thats another thing that needs changing.
Italian250 10-21-2004, 08:08 AM Sorry fellas, you're up against the almighty $$...and the $$ will win!
psychopath 10-21-2004, 08:13 AM Sorry fellas, you're up against the almighty $$...and the $$ will win!
:D I guess you are absolutely right, that's why I'll just keep on hoping. :p
deuce_drop 10-21-2004, 08:40 AM right now in the middleweight division there is one champ. Bernard Hopkins!
mr.thraz 10-21-2004, 12:17 PM one champ per division=less money floating around for the greedy ****s that run boxing, which would hurt. belts=attention, which=consumer interest. 15 rounds=not popular due to boring fights having to go the distance(2 words=John Ruiz), also there would be an additional health worry with fighters going 15, isnt that why they shortened it to 12? im not sure.boxing is digging itself out of its deep, deep hole little by little. whether it makes it back to the glory days is unlikely, but i'll be damned if i dont watch.
na it was shortened to fit better on network tv. they just used fighters health as an exscuse so fight fans wouldn't protest. i think it does help fighters health though, and because they used the fighters as an exscues they cant bring 15 rounds back without looking like monster, even though fights are mostly on cable now.
mic573 10-21-2004, 12:23 PM na it was shortened to fit better on network tv. they just used fighters health as an exscuse so fight fans wouldn't protest. i think it does help fighters health though, and because they used the fighters as an exscues they cant bring 15 rounds back without looking like monster, even though fights are mostly on cable now.
Yeah I remember someone telling me that the reason for shortening the fights was for the networks more than the fighters health.
JOM'S 10-21-2004, 01:26 PM at present is Bernard the only undisputed champion????
jack_the_rippuh 10-21-2004, 01:35 PM Winky Wright is undisputed at junior middle, right?
dempseyfire 10-21-2004, 03:20 PM Wright is going to be stripped of one of the belts (forgot which one) because he is rematching Mosley instead of fighting the mandatory.
To my knowledge Hopkins is the only unified champion in all of the weight classes . . . ..is that right??
neils7147933 10-21-2004, 04:58 PM Winky Wright is undisputed at junior middle, right?
Kassim Ouma just beat Verno Philips on the Wlad/Williamson undercard to claim the IBF belt that Winky would be holding if he were undisputed.
Bernard is actually "totally" undisputed because the WBO hasn't stripped him yet of the belt he won from DLH. He already had the other 3 (or other 2 - he is the WBA "Super Champ". Maselino Masoe has the WBA belt)
psychopath 10-21-2004, 07:36 PM right now in the middleweight division there is one champ. Bernard Hopkins!
That's right and that what makes him great in his own right . . . but I can assure you that not all the governing bodies have smiles on their faces . . . one person holding all the belts in middle weight is delaying the flow of $$$$$ into their organizations. In fact I already saw a story of BH being stripped of one of his belts. I just don't remember where I saw it.
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