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submission_guy
03-29-2003, 05:48 AM
How do I condition my shins? It hurts so much when I train. How do I make my shins harder?
First, you must realize that a conditioned shin is one with deadened nerves. The shin is already hard and will unlikely get much harder. The key is to deaden the nerves so that you wouldn't feel the pain upon impact. However, you must also realize that you should not damage the shin bone while trying to deaden the nerves. This can be done only by practicing on the Thai pads and bags. The Thai pads and bags are softer than your shin bone while hard enough to damage the nerves on the skin above your shin bone with repeated impact. This process can take a while depending on how hard you train and how frequently you train. You must accept that in the beginning, it will be painful. You've just picked one of the most demanding sports in the world. There will be pain to go with it. This is only the beginning. The first time an opponent lands a hard Thai kick on your legs, you will get a wake up call more painful than shin conditioning. Mentally tell yourself that this is the initiation process. In time your shins will be properly conditioned. There are ointments that may alleviate some of the pain. Use them as needed. But understand that no oitment will make the process painless.

What I don't want to see any of you do is to try and take the shortcut at shin conditioning by using hard objects like wood or bottles. I was shocked to hear that some people were actually told by their trainers to take this route. If your trainer tells you to beat your shins with sticks or roll hard bottles on them, seek another Muay Thai gym. This is what will happen if you take these drastic measures. You will at first feel that your shins are conditioned fast. Why? Your nerves have been deadened fast so that you now feel little pain. But by using an object harder than your shin bone you've just damaged the bone too. Guess what will happen later in life? That's right, you will have to see a doctor for bone problems. This crazy method probably started from the myth that Thai boxers in Thailand kicked trees with their shins. The truth is long ago before the availability of pads and bags, Thai boxers kicked banana trees. The texture of a banana tree is rubbery and is softer than a person's shin. It is not like the wooden oak tree sitting in your backyard. The only thing as hard as or harder than your shin bone that you may one day hit are the shins, knees, and elbows of your opponents. And if you end up hurting your shin bone as a result of kicking into your opponents raised knee, then you may still suffer an injury. Just try to minimize injuries in training and save your luck for the ring. Most importantly, always consult a physician with your concerns. They know best.

Zen
03-30-2003, 02:35 AM
thanks for a good read sub guy. keep em coming if you've got more

submission_guy
03-30-2003, 05:26 AM
no problem, i just did a few at first to see who reads them

ThaiBoxer™
04-01-2003, 11:59 AM
Sub-Guy
What you posted is pretty much what I have learned in the game. The only thing I doubt is the "damaging or deadening" of the nerves. I think what is far more likely is that the brain becomes accustomed to these impulses.

I sure as hell am not interested in killing parts of my peripheral nervous system, and the idea that you are killing or damaging neurons is probably false, and certainly not backed by any studies I can find. I wouldn't repeat such a medical kind of statement, unless you have something more to back it up, and the ability to be tougher about shin kicks isn't good support.

Having made that nit-picking point, I for one fully support your statement. The really good fighters I know don't test their "shin conditioning" by banging away on the opponent's hard blocks. Why not? Cuz it hurts your leg! Instead, they pick their targets, aiming for good soft targets on the opponent. And if they do get a hard painful bang on their shin, they just suck it up and don't show it. That's a big part of it.

submission_guy
04-02-2003, 07:01 AM
my shins have never been that bad, i just posted the stuff beacuse it sounded like good info

Kempo Chris
04-02-2003, 08:51 AM
u do deaden ur nerves

Magic Man
04-14-2003, 05:27 AM
subguy, good post matey.

DOGGx0
04-14-2003, 12:03 PM
awesome read! great post subguy! thanks. for a while there i was using those street blocking cones. ya know the ones they use when the are doing construction or dividing the road up?! the cone that is shaped like a cylinder. its bendable, but hurt like hell.

i would have a friend swing it into my shin as i went into it and kicked his pressure. my shins were hella bruised and hurt... but after a week of that.... its like having shin splints... just 10 times worst.

submission_guy- do you have a reccomendation for tai pads and bags?

Magic Man
04-14-2003, 09:59 PM
...you stole those cones didn't you dogg?

DOGGx0
04-15-2003, 02:07 AM
LOL.

why yes....... yes i did. hahahaha
funny you say that. i took em from the local high school parking lot.

Big_Papa
04-28-2003, 02:53 PM
Take a round pencil and roll it up and down your leg for about an hour every night, soon it will deaden all the nerves in your shin, a friend of mine did this, now he kicks through 2 x 4's. Try it, it seems to work.