Red meat for all it's worth is delicious. No doubt. But is the health risk worth it. It takes twice as long for red meat to digest in your system (It is known for clogging arteries over a period of time). Weaning yourself off may take sometime. I would suggest reducing your consumption, from once a week to once every two weeks, to once every month, then completely do away with it. It's a sure fire way to weight loss also.
I went Cold Turkey years ago, and haven't looked back since. droping from a husky 192lb to a lean 178lbs in a few months. I feel lighter and have more mobility and endurance. I was an asthmatic for much of my chilhood throughout, but since cutting out the red meat I have yet to experience respiratory problems (clogged arteries mean less oxygen entering the body), I basically follow a Chicken, Turkey, and Fish diet. Try substituting these with Tofu and Soy Meat as an alternative sometimes.
Worrying about the loss of protein intake, try eating more beans. Not a bean eater, soy meat happens to be delicious, its the closest thing to beef and it has more protein.

If by "red meat" you mean "cow," then I agree that it should be reduced in any diet. I eat a lot of venison and game, though. Got three grouse yesterday!

Good to know as i dislike pretty much all red meat. Id be vegitarian if it wasnt for chicken to be honest.

no need for red meat IMO. chicken, turkey, and fish is all u need as far as animal protein...

Sorry i love steak too much, it's very hard to get away from red meat if you live in aus. I seem to be doing fine with my current healthy diet, so if it's not broke don't fix it.

Sorry i love steak too much, it's very hard to get away from red meat if you live in aus. I seem to be doing fine with my current healthy diet, so if it's not broke don't fix it.
Why wait for it to break? Provention is better than procrastination.

Because i am fitter than 99% of the population i would guess and seeing as though i live at home i can not reject food given to me. It's not the major part of my diet like once or twice a week and i would not give up steak for ever. I am however cutting out a lot of milk and processed wheat as i think that is far worst for your body than red meat which our digestive systems have taken in for much longer than those foods (apart from milk when we are infants of course i'm talking cows milk)

I understand your point about being healthy at the present time, but I was saying that its better to prevent damage nowrather than waiting for it in the future.

I understand your point about being healthy at the present time, but I was saying that its better to prevent damage nowrather than waiting for it in the future.

Sorry i did a little research and did not find anything really negative about lean red meat at all.

"Moreover, while some cuts of meat are higher in saturated fat, all red meat is high in protein, iron, B vitamins, zinc, choline, and selenium, a mineral implicated in preventing cancer and improving cardiovascular health. Ounce for ounce beef has twice the thiamine and riboflavin, three times the iron, five times the zinc, and seven times the B12 of chicken. Beef also contains conjugated linoleic acid, (CLA), which has inhibited cancer growth in laboratory animals. Half of the fat in beef is monosaturated fat, (like olive oil), which has been hailed as having many health benefits. Less than half of the total fat in beef is saturated fat and one third of it is stearic acid, a particular saturated fat that has no effect on cholesterol.

Now granted, if your goal is to lose weight, all fats are equally high in calories. Even I would recommend leaner cuts and in moderation. But if your concern is heart disease, keep in mind though that numerous other factors, other than fat, play a role. Most physicians agree that genetic makeup is a significant determinant. Some people’s biochemistry will produce higher amounts of cholesterol no matter what they eat. Conversely, we all know individuals who have ate rich diets, engaged in other risky practices and lived to a ripe old age. Genes are a whimsical and unfair bestowment of fate.

Genetics aside, your age, sex, physical activity, stress, weight, substance use, environmental pollutants, personality, and other medical conditions, all influence whether you’ll be visiting a cardiologist someday. Yet I’ve met individuals who ignore many controllable factors, who smoke or drink to excess, and yet incessantly monitor their dietary fat. Trust me, all the fish and vegetables in the world will not save you if genetics are not on your side and you’re ignoring all of the other variables. "

Lean red meat is very healthy for you, along with white meats and chicken, cutting it out completely for me seems stupid. However if it suits your body fine, aka genetics. In the original users post he noticed his asthma went, that also may have had to do with a new exercise program a long with losing 20 pounds. My mum's asthma gets terrible if she doesn't walk everyday, along with my dad's blood pressure. Although i seem to have missed both bullets there, while my sister caught them both. I wouldn't drop red meat completely as in the quote...

"all the fish and vegetables in the world will not save you if genetics are not on your side and you’re ignoring all of the other variables"

Hmm seems i was wrong then? :S Spose i better go munch some cow!

i hope noone still believes in having pounds of undigested meat in your large intestines.

Different hings work for different people. Red meat can be a great part of your diet. Most of the issues come in the size of consumption, and preperation. People say i'm going to have a steak... and instead of a normal 6-8oz portion they have a 24oz t-bone.... that is broiled and basted in clarified butter.

Syrups and sugars show go first, then processed grains IMO....

High fructose corn syrup is the worste i think.

**** quitting red meat lol

I love steak to much to completely leave it alone. I agree that we should eat less of it. I am currently in a cleansing process trying to get all gunk out.

im sorry to tell you there is no gunk. colon and cleansing is sold to you by snakeoil salesman.

it has been medically debunked.

you rcolon sheds" leaving the impossibility of build up in "wrinkles" in you colon and large intestine.

your body is a perfect machine. it maintains homeostasis at all times, at which point homeostasis could be disrupted your body adjusts immediately. there are no toxins in your body. they are successfully flushed.

if your body is as toxic as snakeoils salesman lead you to believe you would be hospitalized or dead.

im sorry to tell you there is no gunk. colon and cleansing is sold to you by snakeoil salesman.

it has been medically debunked.

you rcolon sheds" leaving the impossibility of build up in "wrinkles" in you colon and large intestine.

your body is a perfect machine. it maintains homeostasis at all times, at which point homeostasis could be disrupted your body adjusts immediately. there are no toxins in your body. they are successfully flushed.

if your body is as toxic as snakeoils salesman lead you to believe you would be hospitalized or dead.


Can you provide a link please?

yes.....


pulling them up now....


the question you should ask yourself is this....


what toxins or pollutants are you actually cleansing from your body?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18595886/


http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/detox.html


http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/flushes.html


http://www.devicewatch.org/reports/aquadetox.shtml


http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/gastro.html


http://www.livescience.com/health/060808_bad_colon.html


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,214802,00.html

researchers at Johns Hopkins, the Chicago Center for Clinical Research and the University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinics put 191 adults with elevated cholesterol levels on a comprehensive low-fat, low-cholesterol diet that included lean meat. Patients were randomly assigned to consume 80 percent of their meat intake from lean red meats (beef, veal or pork) for five to seven days a week for nine months, or to eat lean white meats (fish or poultry) for the same length of time.

At study's end, subjects in both groups had nearly identical changes in their cholesterol levels. All saw an average decrease of 1 to 3 percent in low-density lipoproteins, or "bad cholesterol"; an average increase of 2 percent in high-density lipoproteins, or "good cholesterol"; and an average decrease of 6 percent in triglycerides, molecules needed to make fats.

"Chicken and fish traditionally have been considered healthier than red meat because many cuts of red meat can have too much saturated fat," says Peter O. Kwiterovich, M.D., director of The Johns Hopkins University Lipid Clinic. "Now, lean cuts of red meat are readily available to consumers. If you follow a heart-healthy diet, it doesn't make a difference whether you eat red meat or white meat, as long as you choose lean cuts."

Source: www.sciencedaily.com

im sorry to tell you there is no gunk. colon and cleansing is sold to you by snakeoil salesman.

it has been medically debunked.

you rcolon sheds" leaving the impossibility of build up in "wrinkles" in you colon and large intestine.

your body is a perfect machine. it maintains homeostasis at all times, at which point homeostasis could be disrupted your body adjusts immediately. there are no toxins in your body. they are successfully flushed.

if your body is as toxic as snakeoils salesman lead you to believe you would be hospitalized or dead.


Thanks buddy

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/gruesome/fecalcolon.asp

If by "red meat" you mean "cow," then I agree that it should be reduced in any diet. I eat a lot of venison and game, though. Got three grouse yesterday!

game is delicous mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm moose and reindear, ohhh its season now

no problem

More Power to you guys...

I EATS MY MEATS! and that means Red, yellow, blue, brown, orange, black, green, and everything inbetween.

Its probably better for the wimps in my weight class... it'll shorten my Reign as KING if it is really bad for your health.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18595886/


http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/detox.html


http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/flushes.html


http://www.devicewatch.org/reports/aquadetox.shtml


http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/gastro.html


http://www.livescience.com/health/060808_bad_colon.html


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,214802,00.html
very educative links... thanks....

More Power to you guys...

I EATS MY MEATS! and that means Red, yellow, blue, brown, orange, black, green, and everything inbetween.

Its probably better for the wimps in my weight class... it'll shorten my Reign as KING if it is really bad for your health.
It really is bad for you in the long run. As we age, our bodies produce lesser amounts of Pepsin, an enzyme that digests protein. It is well documented that the wall of your intestines accumulate plaque (Just as a plaque buils on ones teeth) over a period of time with meat consumption. You'd be surprised at what comes out of your system after consuming Pure Fiber (Psyllium Husk) for a one week duration.

Lets do an experiment......

step one - buy some psyllium husk and put it into a glass. add some water. let sit.

several hours later your glass will be filled with a firm gel in the shape of the glass.


step two - ingest psyllium husk. you will crap a tube of the same gell.

It really is bad for you in the long run. As we age, our bodies produce lesser amounts of Pepsin, an enzyme that digests protein. It is well documented that the wall of your intestines accumulate plaque (Just as a plaque buils on ones teeth) over a period of time with meat consumption. You'd be surprised at what comes out of your system after consuming Pure Fiber (Psyllium Husk) for a one week duration.



links i posted dispute this. all with stated medical sources.

your intestines do not build up plaque io am sorry to say. the medical community vastly disagrees with this.

It was made up by Richard Anderson, a snakeoil salesman... to help sell his products.

im curious to see where this is well documented. (buy dr's not business men)

Mucoid Plaque is a myth, and "intestinal mucosa" is a healthy function of your digestive system.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134995

related thread. red meat and bowell cancer

Lets do an experiment......

step one - buy some psyllium husk and put it into a glass. add some water. let sit.

several hours later your glass will be filled with a firm gel in the shape of the glass.


step two - ingest psyllium husk. you will crap a tube of the same gell.

So this is the reason why it appears that you are cleansing your insides but its really the psyllium thats causing you to crap more out.. Walgreens needs to give me back my $25 dollars.

So this is the reason why it appears that you are cleansing your insides but its really the psyllium thats causing you to crap more out.. Walgreens needs to give me back my $25 dollars.

you are crapping psyllium mixed with feces. but you are not relieving yourself of plaque, impacted feces or "toxins"

I would challenge anyone to give me an example of what "toxins" detoxes and cleanses will clear you of.

walgreens also ripped you off..... you could have just bought metamucil.

what about that vacuum they stick up your ass and vacuum out some stuff. does that do the service it is supposed to do?

getting back to the subject, steak is great. it is a real man's food. remember, eat your veggies and fruits though.

eat fresh. don't overcook your fruits or veggies. a light steaming is great.

a few small meals are better than one or two big meals.

eat more portions meat and heating foods in winter. eat more portions veggies/fruits of a cooling nature in summer. balance is key.

have a sip of brandy or whiskey once in a while. great in winter.

drink plenty water. drink a bit of juice once in a while. a glass of wine is good too.

this is all you really need to know about eating. remember, food is medicine.

links i posted dispute this. all with stated medical sources.

Are you disputing the fact that our bodies produce a lesser amount of enzymes as we get older?

i'm disputing plaque and uneliminated fecal matter